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Yes in a way... because these people will be more easily controlled by TPTB. Get 'em of food stamps, free phones, and free rent, etc... and they will do anything for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26295520


Just go and view the thousands of youtube videos of the Oblabla supporters and you will see they vote for him, ...... cause:

He's black (their words not mine)
cause he gibs dem free phones
cause he gibs dem free food
cause he gibs dem free rent
cause he gibs dem free etc.....
Oblabla took the requirement when on welfare, to prove that you looking for a job out of the welfare system, so in essence he gave them a liscense to sit on the free front porch, drinking their cheap wine, eating their free food, talking on their free phone, and are perfectly contect to do just that. They have no desire to do something with their lives.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26295520


They were getting free food, rent and phones anyway, it's ALWAYS been that way...for decades.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25473374

Do your homework. I just did!
There's NO such thing as 'free rent'. When you're getting assistance, you are required to give ONE THIRD of your check to your landlord, if he or she deals with section 8 or some other type of housing for people on assistance. I do my homework!
You Obama haters seem to think he is the reason for food stamp growth. Look at the mess, that was handed over to him, from the worst president we ever had, George! The economy s~cks. Obama isn't a WIZARD OR MAGICIAN! Nobody will be able to fix the mess George left Obama with, for a VERY long time. Time to face reality. Obama is NOT responsible for food stamp growth.
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stupid 'generation me people'
I'm probably older than all of you and you're probably all born after 1970~ That's really when 'generation me' started, in my opinion. Ungrateful kids now a days make me sick.
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ABOVE IS A BOLD FACED LIE... I am a social worker and even though each state is different but Section 8 housing is not the only housing welfare (not disability or SS) people get, and it DOES Pay up to 100% of the rent.. LOOK it up again. HOW else would welfare people pay for it.. Most states require income under 210-300 month to stay qualified for Welfare (DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF KIDS OF CURSE) . And that inclues income from child support
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Prior to The Celtic-Troll showing up and berating everyone for how "rich" they are. The original topic of the OP was just a statistic that put Obama's failed economic policies on display.

AND actually the statistic of Food Stamp Growth at 75X greater than Job Creation during the last four years, is an indictment of those tragic economic policies, not the welfare system itself.

Because if Obama had done what he promised, and gotten the unemployment rate down to 5.2%, instead of the 7.9% we currently stand at, that would've meant an additional 9,000,000 jobs. Meaning his Job Creation number would've almost matched Food Stamp Growth.

Though I suspect if we'd gotten those 9,000,000 jobs, the statistic would've been reversed, because not nearly as many of those people would require Food Stamps if there were ample jobs avialable...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


It's just this simple, if Obama had kept his promise on jobs, we wouldn't have needed all this exponential growth in Food Stamps and other Welfare Programs...
 Quoting: Saddletramp

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For those that say the republicans are to blame sounds alot like a left winged liberal playing their card. Both sides are to blame all of the time they tell you one thing and then do another. Why, you ask? Because they want your vote and then your money.
 Quoting: WAKEUPAMERICA01


They are both to blame but I think the Democrats are the lesser of the two evils.
 Quoting: thecelticcat


There is NO DISTINCTION between the 2 in ACTIONS... only in rhetoric is there a split and thats just to keep the sheep split and distracted...The world is a giant chess game and the PTB play both sides. of wars, elections, revolutions, everything.
 Quoting: smokahontas


The idiots in America keep holding on to the premise that there is a "better" choice - it's rather amazing - the level of brainwashing. Both sides do THE SAME EXACT THING - good cop bad cop - works every time.
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And guess what ? With another prez. you wouldn't have food stamps !!
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With another president we would've had enough jobs we wouldn't have needed all the exponential growth in Food Stamps...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


You are a total shill for the republican money loving cock sucking party as well as a total fucking moron. I imagine you have lots of money and bitch about the welfare state while you smoke cigars on your boat. Of course, your posts are nothing more than illogical opinions. You have yet (from what I can see) to make one single substantive argument.

The jobs have been shipped out of the country asswipe. They are not coming back. Obama signed off on MORE FREE TRADE - so he is also shipping them out. His foreign policy is a mirror image of Bush. Food stamp growth is not an "it happened the last four years" problem.

So take your simplistic brain and go fuck yourself with it.
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And guess what ? With another prez. you wouldn't have food stamps !!
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With another president we would've had enough jobs we wouldn't have needed all the exponential growth in Food Stamps...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


You are a total shill for the republican money loving cock sucking party as well as a total fucking moron. I imagine you have lots of money and bitch about the welfare state while you smoke cigars on your boat. Of course, your posts are nothing more than illogical opinions. You have yet (from what I can see) to make one single substantive argument.

The jobs have been shipped out of the country asswipe. They are not coming back. Obama signed off on MORE FREE TRADE - so he is also shipping them out. His foreign policy is a mirror image of Bush. Food stamp growth is not an "it happened the last four years" problem.

So take your simplistic brain and go fuck yourself with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3978737


Oh but you mistake me, I'm not bitching about Welfare...I'm bitching about Obama not keeping his promise to create 9,000,000 more jobs and lower unemployment to 5.2% (I didn't make the promise, he did)...because if he had kept his promise we wouldn't have the exponential growth in Welfare, or the sheer crushing volume of deficit spending we have now...

But alas Obama lied again, and now we all suffer, including you...

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 11/04/2012 11:38 PM
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And guess what ? With another prez. you wouldn't have food stamps !!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26738753


With another president we would've had enough jobs we wouldn't have needed all the exponential growth in Food Stamps...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


You are a total shill for the republican money loving cock sucking party as well as a total fucking moron. I imagine you have lots of money and bitch about the welfare state while you smoke cigars on your boat. Of course, your posts are nothing more than illogical opinions. You have yet (from what I can see) to make one single substantive argument.

The jobs have been shipped out of the country asswipe. They are not coming back. Obama signed off on MORE FREE TRADE - so he is also shipping them out. His foreign policy is a mirror image of Bush. Food stamp growth is not an "it happened the last four years" problem.

So take your simplistic brain and go fuck yourself with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3978737


Oh but you mistake me, I'm not bitching about Welfare...I'm bitching about Obama not keeping his promise to create 9,000,000 more jobs and lower unemployment to 5.2% (I didn't make the promise, he did)...because if he had kept his promise we wouldn't have the exponential growth in Welfare, or the sheer crushing volume of deficit spending we have now...

But alas Obama lied again, and now we all suffer, including you...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


I admire your level headed response to my tirade. However:

There is no one going to create 9 million jobs - not Jesus himself. They shipped manufacturing out of the US for profits. There are no jobs coming back - Obama's jobs czar is the head of GE who build plants in China. They bailed out GM who know builds plants in China. Apple makes not one component of any Apple product in America (are you getting the picture). We have exponential growth in food stamps because there are no jobs - and they are no coming back.
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I will go one further - the guy who was great at closing US plants and moving them to China so he could make millions was Romney himself. He is one of those reasons we have so many people on food stamps - he helped destroy America and ship jobs out of the country. And yet people like you want to see him run the whole show. It's amazing to me.
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I will go one further - the guy who was great at closing US plants and moving them to China so he could make millions was Romney himself. He is one of those reasons we have so many people on food stamps - he helped destroy America and ship jobs out of the country. And yet people like you want to see him run the whole show. It's amazing to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3978737


And Obama could've helped job oportunity in this country with two simple legislative actions. These two things being tax policy and banking regulations.

First, The United State's corporated tax rate is the highest in the world, China's is one of the lowest. If we merely set our corporate tax rate in line with other manufacturing countries in the world, we would retain half of the manufacturing jobs we lose every year.

Second, the Glass-Steagall act was repealed by Clinton in 1999, and if they would reinstate that regulation it would again seperate Deposit Banking from Investment Banking, forcing the banks break up, and also forcing the deposit banks to start lending money to small business' again to make their profits, instead of investing it in the stock or derivative markets (which was illegal for deposit banks prior to the repeal of Glass-Steagall).

Now Obama was never specific on his 5.2% unemployment promise, but when you realize that 77% of all hiring in the USA comes from small buisness anyhow, those two simple things I listed above could change the face of job opportunity in this country, and Obama chose instead to pay off contributors and Congressmen who supported him with Stimulus money rather than make a real dent in the reason this countries economic system is broken...

But like I said, I didn't make the promise...Obama did.

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 11/05/2012 12:12 AM
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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Prior to The Celtic-Troll showing up and berating everyone for how "rich" they are. The original topic of the OP was just a statistic that put Obama's failed economic policies on display.

AND actually the statistic of Food Stamp Growth at 75X greater than Job Creation during the last four years, is an indictment of those tragic economic policies, not the welfare system itself.

Because if Obama had done what he promised, and gotten the unemployment rate down to 5.2%, instead of the 7.9% we currently stand at, that would've meant an additional 9,000,000 jobs. Meaning his Job Creation number would've almost matched Food Stamp Growth.

Though I suspect if we'd gotten those 9,000,000 jobs, the statistic would've been reversed, because not nearly as many of those people would require Food Stamps if there were ample jobs avialable...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


It's just this simple, if Obama had kept his promise on jobs, we wouldn't have needed all this exponential growth in Food Stamps and other Welfare Programs...
 Quoting: Saddletramp

 Quoting: Saddletramp


Burn in hell.
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Just go and view the thousands of youtube videos of the Oblabla supporters and you will see they vote for him, ...... cause:

He's black (their words not mine)
cause he gibs dem free phones
cause he gibs dem free food
cause he gibs dem free rent
cause he gibs dem free etc.....
Oblabla took the requirement when on welfare, to prove that you looking for a job out of the welfare system, so in essence he gave them a liscense to sit on the free front porch, drinking their cheap wine, eating their free food, talking on their free phone, and are perfectly contect to do just that. They have no desire to do something with their lives.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26295520


They were getting free food, rent and phones anyway, it's ALWAYS been that way...for decades.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25473374

Do your homework. I just did!
There's NO such thing as 'free rent'. When you're getting assistance, you are required to give ONE THIRD of your check to your landlord, if he or she deals with section 8 or some other type of housing for people on assistance. I do my homework!
You Obama haters seem to think he is the reason for food stamp growth. Look at the mess, that was handed over to him, from the worst president we ever had, George! The economy s~cks. Obama isn't a WIZARD OR MAGICIAN! Nobody will be able to fix the mess George left Obama with, for a VERY long time. Time to face reality. Obama is NOT responsible for food stamp growth.
Woopsie doodle for my bad karma vote for telling someone off. Those karma votes mean jack sh!t to me. I have a membership my daughter pays for, oblivious one. She uses my computer and shares my account. So you wasted your time.
stupid 'generation me people'
I'm probably older than all of you and you're probably all born after 1970~ That's really when 'generation me' started, in my opinion. Ungrateful kids now a days make me sick.
angryface
 Quoting: thecelticcat


ABOVE IS A BOLD FACED LIE... I am a social worker and even though each state is different but Section 8 housing is not the only housing welfare (not disability or SS) people get, and it DOES Pay up to 100% of the rent.. LOOK it up again. HOW else would welfare people pay for it.. Most states require income under 210-300 month to stay qualified for Welfare (DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF KIDS OF CURSE) . And that inclues income from child support
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27027995


Pot calls kettle black. You're the LIAR.
Look into Fall River housing and provide the link.
You don't even know how to spell~ 'NUMBER OR KIDS OF COURSE'
People supposed to think you're educated? LMAO!

Last Edited by Maria Monroe on 11/05/2012 12:21 AM
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Prior to The Celtic-Troll showing up and berating everyone for how "rich" they are. The original topic of the OP was just a statistic that put Obama's failed economic policies on display.

AND actually the statistic of Food Stamp Growth at 75X greater than Job Creation during the last four years, is an indictment of those tragic economic policies, not the welfare system itself.

Because if Obama had done what he promised, and gotten the unemployment rate down to 5.2%, instead of the 7.9% we currently stand at, that would've meant an additional 9,000,000 jobs. Meaning his Job Creation number would've almost matched Food Stamp Growth.

Though I suspect if we'd gotten those 9,000,000 jobs, the statistic would've been reversed, because not nearly as many of those people would require Food Stamps if there were ample jobs avialable...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


It's just this simple, if Obama had kept his promise on jobs, we wouldn't have needed all this exponential growth in Food Stamps and other Welfare Programs...
 Quoting: Saddletramp

 Quoting: Saddletramp


Burn in hell.
 Quoting: thecelticcat


Thanks for the bump...
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There's 'saddlesh!t' on his YACHT b!tching about Obama helping poor people. Fact- can't create jobs with a bad economy.
Why is it that most rich people are REPUBLICANS?
Ya'll know the answer to that.
I wouldn't want to be them when they get judged in front of GOD.
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There's 'saddlesh!t' on his YACHT b!tching about Obama helping poor people. Fact- can't create jobs with a bad economy.
Why is it that most rich people are REPUBLICANS?
Ya'll know the answer to that.
I wouldn't want to be them when they get judged in front of GOD.
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Perhaps Obama shouldn't have promised 9,000,000 jobs and an unemployment rate of 5.2% then...if it's a "Fact - can't create jobs with a bad economy" like you said...
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Yes in a way... because these people will be more easily controlled by TPTB. Get 'em of food stamps, free phones, and free rent, etc... and they will do anything for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26295520


You won't get anything for free UNLESS your a welfare mom, elderly, or have a disability. People that I feel bad for the most, and I know a few of them, are the elderly, and people with a disability, because they don't get much at all. I never heard of anyone getting a free phone, but maybe they (my friends) don't know they can, get one, if they apply...
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And just as an informative: the free phone was initially set up by Reagan I think, and it was for land lines in case of an emergency. Land lines are a whole lot cheaper than cell phones. But since Oblabla, now they can get the fancy I phones, I don't have one of those and I pay my bills myself. I cannot afford one. It upsets me to see a food stamp person getting something like that for free. Texting is not an emergency way of comunication. or the need for 3g or 4g phones.
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FOUND OUT THIS WAS A FLAT OUT LIE.
FOX news aired it because they are REPUBLICANS trying to make Obama look a certain way *cough*
I just asked one of my step daughter's friends and she said she wishes she could have gotten an iphone! Obama gave her the sh!tiest, cheapest phone. Here are the facts, look them up. She only gets 250 min/month for phone calls and 250 text messages(not free though, each text message cost small amount) BECAUSE TEACHERS DO TEXT PARENTS! HA!
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You know, you all are some dumb mother fuckers.

The fucking economy is crashing, of course the food stamp numbers are going to go up.



Blame Obama for being optimistic.poop
That's why my step doesn't want kids. You have a kid, stuck in middle class, and they work 9-5 jobs, slaving away to make the rich richer.

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Prior to The Celtic-Troll showing up and berating everyone for how "rich" they are. The original topic of the OP was just a statistic that put Obama's failed economic policies on display.

AND actually the statistic of Food Stamp Growth at 75X greater than Job Creation during the last four years, is an indictment of those tragic economic policies, not the welfare system itself.

Because if Obama had done what he promised, and gotten the unemployment rate down to 5.2%, instead of the 7.9% we currently stand at, that would've meant an additional 9,000,000 jobs. Meaning his Job Creation number would've almost matched Food Stamp Growth.

Though I suspect if we'd gotten those 9,000,000 jobs, the statistic would've been reversed, because not nearly as many of those people would require Food Stamps if there were ample jobs avialable...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


It's just this simple, if Obama had kept his promise on jobs, we wouldn't have needed all this exponential growth in Food Stamps and other Welfare Programs...
 Quoting: Saddletramp

 Quoting: Saddletramp

"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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I will go one further - the guy who was great at closing US plants and moving them to China so he could make millions was Romney himself. He is one of those reasons we have so many people on food stamps - he helped destroy America and ship jobs out of the country. And yet people like you want to see him run the whole show. It's amazing to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3978737


And Obama could've helped job oportunity in this country with two simple legislative actions. These two things being tax policy and banking regulations.

First, The United State's corporated tax rate is the highest in the world, China's is one of the lowest. If we merely set our corporate tax rate in line with other manufacturing countries in the world, we would retain half of the manufacturing jobs we lose every year.

Second, the Glass-Steagall act was repealed by Clinton in 1999, and if they would reinstate that regulation it would again seperate Deposit Banking from Investment Banking, forcing the banks break up, and also forcing the deposit banks to start lending money to small business' again to make their profits, instead of investing it in the stock or derivative markets (which was illegal for deposit banks prior to the repeal of Glass-Steagall).

Now Obama was never specific on his 5.2% unemployment promise, but when you realize that 77% of all hiring in the USA comes from small buisness anyhow, those two simple things I listed above could change the face of job opportunity in this country, and Obama chose instead to pay off contributors and Congressmen who supported him with Stimulus money rather than make a real dent in the reason this countries economic system is broken...

But like I said, I didn't make the promise...Obama did.
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How's that Hope and Change workin' out for ya?!?!?

Food Stamp Growth 75X Greater Than Job Creation

With the latest jobs report, it is now the case that "Under Obama, Food Stamp Growth [Is] 75 Times Greater Than Job Creation," according to statistics compiled by the Republican side of the Senate Budget Committee. "For Every Person Added to Jobs Rolls Since January 2009, 75 People Added To Food Stamp Rolls."...

[link to www.weeklystandard.com]

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I will go one further - the guy who was great at closing US plants and moving them to China so he could make millions was Romney himself. He is one of those reasons we have so many people on food stamps - he helped destroy America and ship jobs out of the country. And yet people like you want to see him run the whole show. It's amazing to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3978737


And Obama could've helped job oportunity in this country with two simple legislative actions. These two things being tax policy and banking regulations.

First, The United State's corporated tax rate is the highest in the world, China's is one of the lowest. If we merely set our corporate tax rate in line with other manufacturing countries in the world, we would retain half of the manufacturing jobs we lose every year.

Second, the Glass-Steagall act was repealed by Clinton in 1999, and if they would reinstate that regulation it would again seperate Deposit Banking from Investment Banking, forcing the banks break up, and also forcing the deposit banks to start lending money to small business' again to make their profits, instead of investing it in the stock or derivative markets (which was illegal for deposit banks prior to the repeal of Glass-Steagall).

Now Obama was never specific on his 5.2% unemployment promise, but when you realize that 77% of all hiring in the USA comes from small buisness anyhow, those two simple things I listed above could change the face of job opportunity in this country, and Obama chose instead to pay off contributors and Congressmen who supported him with Stimulus money rather than make a real dent in the reason this countries economic system is broken...

But like I said, I didn't make the promise...Obama did.
 Quoting: Saddletramp




First - the corporate tax rate is NOT that disproportionate. Nonpartisan tax analysts consistently find that corporations here on average pay just slightly more than their competitors in other developed countries after exploiting the many tax breaks and loopholes.

Here:

[link to www.nytimes.com]

The big difference for large multinational corporations is the cost of labor. While the cost of labor in China has actually gone up (leveling the playing field slightly) Obama and the shills in congress have signed off on THREE MORE FREE TRADE AGREEMENTS - sending jobs in to new cheap labor markets.

Second - both candidates agree that the corporate tax rate should be cut (Obama 28% and Romney 25%). Makes not an ounce of difference (see above). YET both candidates are for free trade and globalism. So the net results will be exactly the same no matter who gets in.

Third - Romney specifically says he will not reinstate Glass-Steagall:

[link to swampland.time.com]

So what was your point again?
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Pfft, a pig that represents himself showing the middle finger, exactly shows just the type of individual he is.

I hope he doesn't have kids or doesn't breed.

PS, you mad? GOOD!

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I imagine you have lots of money and bitch about the welfare state while you smoke cigars on your boat.
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You're a goddamn libtard if you can say that with a straight face, while saying nothing about all the fat cat libs who live large on inflated government salaries. Who are getting more perks and holiday time than anyone in the private sector, and are getting paid not by willing customers but by taxpayers forced to fork over bucks by the IRS and local tax agencies.
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I will go one further - the guy who was great at closing US plants and moving them to China so he could make millions was Romney himself. He is one of those reasons we have so many people on food stamps - he helped destroy America and ship jobs out of the country. And yet people like you want to see him run the whole show. It's amazing to me.
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And Obama could've helped job oportunity in this country with two simple legislative actions. These two things being tax policy and banking regulations.

First, The United State's corporated tax rate is the highest in the world, China's is one of the lowest. If we merely set our corporate tax rate in line with other manufacturing countries in the world, we would retain half of the manufacturing jobs we lose every year.

Second, the Glass-Steagall act was repealed by Clinton in 1999, and if they would reinstate that regulation it would again seperate Deposit Banking from Investment Banking, forcing the banks break up, and also forcing the deposit banks to start lending money to small business' again to make their profits, instead of investing it in the stock or derivative markets (which was illegal for deposit banks prior to the repeal of Glass-Steagall).

Now Obama was never specific on his 5.2% unemployment promise, but when you realize that 77% of all hiring in the USA comes from small buisness anyhow, those two simple things I listed above could change the face of job opportunity in this country, and Obama chose instead to pay off contributors and Congressmen who supported him with Stimulus money rather than make a real dent in the reason this countries economic system is broken...

But like I said, I didn't make the promise...Obama did.
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First - the corporate tax rate is NOT that disproportionate. Nonpartisan tax analysts consistently find that corporations here on average pay just slightly more than their competitors in other developed countries after exploiting the many tax breaks and loopholes.

Here:

[link to www.nytimes.com]

The big difference for large multinational corporations is the cost of labor. While the cost of labor in China has actually gone up (leveling the playing field slightly) Obama and the shills in congress have signed off on THREE MORE FREE TRADE AGREEMENTS - sending jobs in to new cheap labor markets.

Second - both candidates agree that the corporate tax rate should be cut (Obama 28% and Romney 25%). Makes not an ounce of difference (see above). YET both candidates are for free trade and globalism. So the net results will be exactly the same no matter who gets in.

Third - Romney specifically says he will not reinstate Glass-Steagall:

[link to swampland.time.com]

So what was your point again?
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My point is that Obama could've done the things I listed above if he ever intended to keep his promise, instead he paid off contributors and allies with our tax money...

So my argument is the same as it's always been, that Obama never intended to keep this promise, he says anything he thinks people want to hear...

My argument has never been a pro Romney argument, merely an Anti-Obama one...

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Pfft, a pig that represents himself showing the middle finger, exactly shows just the type of individual he is.

I hope he doesn't have kids or doesn't breed.
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Bumping the thread all the way to the top...gracias!!!
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Pfft, a pig that represents himself showing the middle finger, exactly shows just the type of individual he is.

I hope he doesn't have kids or doesn't breed.
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And Obama has been so much classier with his Chicago mob type of comments, recommendations to vote for "revenge", and sly middle finger salutes -- as even given to Hillary in 2008 -- over the past 4 years?

But he is the president, after all, unlike an anonymous, private citizen posting to a website's forum.
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Why does Saddlesh!t thank ME for bumping this darn thread? You can bump this darn thread yourself and I wouldn't be surprised if you were doing some sort of upper, for being so obnoxious. You mad? GOOD!
Go ahead bump it yourself, Satan's spawn! over and over!
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Re: Food Stamp Growth 75 Times Greater Than Job Creation During Obama...
I will go one further - the guy who was great at closing US plants and moving them to China so he could make millions was Romney himself. He is one of those reasons we have so many people on food stamps - he helped destroy America and ship jobs out of the country. And yet people like you want to see him run the whole show. It's amazing to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3978737


And Obama could've helped job oportunity in this country with two simple legislative actions. These two things being tax policy and banking regulations.

First, The United State's corporated tax rate is the highest in the world, China's is one of the lowest. If we merely set our corporate tax rate in line with other manufacturing countries in the world, we would retain half of the manufacturing jobs we lose every year.

Second, the Glass-Steagall act was repealed by Clinton in 1999, and if they would reinstate that regulation it would again seperate Deposit Banking from Investment Banking, forcing the banks break up, and also forcing the deposit banks to start lending money to small business' again to make their profits, instead of investing it in the stock or derivative markets (which was illegal for deposit banks prior to the repeal of Glass-Steagall).

Now Obama was never specific on his 5.2% unemployment promise, but when you realize that 77% of all hiring in the USA comes from small buisness anyhow, those two simple things I listed above could change the face of job opportunity in this country, and Obama chose instead to pay off contributors and Congressmen who supported him with Stimulus money rather than make a real dent in the reason this countries economic system is broken...

But like I said, I didn't make the promise...Obama did.
 Quoting: Saddletramp




First - the corporate tax rate is NOT that disproportionate. Nonpartisan tax analysts consistently find that corporations here on average pay just slightly more than their competitors in other developed countries after exploiting the many tax breaks and loopholes.

Here:

[link to www.nytimes.com]

The big difference for large multinational corporations is the cost of labor. While the cost of labor in China has actually gone up (leveling the playing field slightly) Obama and the shills in congress have signed off on THREE MORE FREE TRADE AGREEMENTS - sending jobs in to new cheap labor markets.

Second - both candidates agree that the corporate tax rate should be cut (Obama 28% and Romney 25%). Makes not an ounce of difference (see above). YET both candidates are for free trade and globalism. So the net results will be exactly the same no matter who gets in.

Third - Romney specifically says he will not reinstate Glass-Steagall:

[link to swampland.time.com]

So what was your point again?
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My point is that Obama could've done the things I listed above if he ever intended to keep his promise, instead he paid off contributors and allies with our tax money...

So my argument is the same as it's always been, that Obama never intended to keep this promise, he says anything he thinks people want to hear...

My argument has never been a pro Romney argument, merely an Anti-Obama one...
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And my point is Romney isn't changing jack shit.
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And Obama could've helped job oportunity in this country with two simple legislative actions. These two things being tax policy and banking regulations.

First, The United State's corporated tax rate is the highest in the world, China's is one of the lowest. If we merely set our corporate tax rate in line with other manufacturing countries in the world, we would retain half of the manufacturing jobs we lose every year.

Second, the Glass-Steagall act was repealed by Clinton in 1999, and if they would reinstate that regulation it would again seperate Deposit Banking from Investment Banking, forcing the banks break up, and also forcing the deposit banks to start lending money to small business' again to make their profits, instead of investing it in the stock or derivative markets (which was illegal for deposit banks prior to the repeal of Glass-Steagall).

Now Obama was never specific on his 5.2% unemployment promise, but when you realize that 77% of all hiring in the USA comes from small buisness anyhow, those two simple things I listed above could change the face of job opportunity in this country, and Obama chose instead to pay off contributors and Congressmen who supported him with Stimulus money rather than make a real dent in the reason this countries economic system is broken...

But like I said, I didn't make the promise...Obama did.
 Quoting: Saddletramp




First - the corporate tax rate is NOT that disproportionate. Nonpartisan tax analysts consistently find that corporations here on average pay just slightly more than their competitors in other developed countries after exploiting the many tax breaks and loopholes.

Here:

[link to www.nytimes.com]

The big difference for large multinational corporations is the cost of labor. While the cost of labor in China has actually gone up (leveling the playing field slightly) Obama and the shills in congress have signed off on THREE MORE FREE TRADE AGREEMENTS - sending jobs in to new cheap labor markets.

Second - both candidates agree that the corporate tax rate should be cut (Obama 28% and Romney 25%). Makes not an ounce of difference (see above). YET both candidates are for free trade and globalism. So the net results will be exactly the same no matter who gets in.

Third - Romney specifically says he will not reinstate Glass-Steagall:

[link to swampland.time.com]

So what was your point again?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3978737


My point is that Obama could've done the things I listed above if he ever intended to keep his promise, instead he paid off contributors and allies with our tax money...

So my argument is the same as it's always been, that Obama never intended to keep this promise, he says anything he thinks people want to hear...

My argument has never been a pro Romney argument, merely an Anti-Obama one...
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And my point is Romney isn't changing jack shit.
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So if you have no defense of Obama and his failed policies, then why, pray tell, does he deserve another four years?!?!?
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Pfft, a pig that represents himself showing the middle finger, exactly shows just the type of individual he is.

I hope he doesn't have kids or doesn't breed.
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And Obama has been so much classier with his Chicago mob type of comments, recommendations to vote for "revenge", and sly middle finger salutes -- as even given to Hillary in 2008 -- over the past 4 years?

But he is the president, after all, unlike an anonymous, private citizen posting to a website's forum.

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Like you, an anonymous private citizen, posting bs. I assume you're an angel and never did anything naughty in your life. Excuse Obama for being human and having a sense of humor. Do you and Saddlsh!t attend Church together? He seems like he's very Spiritual *rolls eyes*
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I assume you're an angel and never did anything naughty in your life. Excuse Obama for being human and having a sense of humor.
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You wouldn't excuse him for one second if he weren't a liberal.

I'll admit to doing naughty things in my life if you admit to not being anymore compassionate, tolerant or loving than anyone else.
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You are delusional. are ya happy now?

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Pfft, a pig that represents himself showing the middle finger, exactly shows just the type of individual he is.

I hope he doesn't have kids or doesn't breed.
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And Obama has been so much classier with his Chicago mob type of comments, recommendations to vote for "revenge", and sly middle finger salutes -- as even given to Hillary in 2008 -- over the past 4 years?

But he is the president, after all, unlike an anonymous, private citizen posting to a website's forum.

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Like you, an anonymous private citizen, posting bs. I assume you're an angel and never did anything naughty in your life. Excuse Obama for being human and having a sense of humor. Do you and Saddlsh!t attend Church together? He seems like he's very Spiritual *rolls eyes*
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