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Grande projection for post on bottom of page 6.

Truth hurts.

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The Celtictroll is an attention hound and thrives on moving threads off topic...

Classic Cointelpro...
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How's that Hope and Change workin' out for ya?!?!?

Food Stamp Growth 75X Greater Than Job Creation

With the latest jobs report, it is now the case that "Under Obama, Food Stamp Growth [Is] 75 Times Greater Than Job Creation," according to statistics compiled by the Republican side of the Senate Budget Committee. "For Every Person Added to Jobs Rolls Since January 2009, 75 People Added To Food Stamp Rolls."...

[link to www.weeklystandard.com]

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Prior to The Celtic-Troll showing up and berating everyone for how "rich" they are. The original topic of the OP was just a statistic that put Obama's failed economic policies on display.

AND actually the statistic of Food Stamp Growth at 75X greater than Job Creation during the last four years, is an indictment of those tragic economic policies, not the welfare system itself.

Because if Obama had done what he promised, and gotten the unemployment rate down to 5.2%, instead of the 7.9% we currently stand at, that would've meant an additional 9,000,000 jobs. Meaning his Job Creation number would've almost matched Food Stamp Growth.

Though I suspect if we'd gotten those 9,000,000 jobs, the statistic would've been reversed, because not nearly as many of those people would require Food Stamps if there were ample jobs avialable...
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It's just this simple, if Obama had kept his promise on jobs, we wouldn't have needed all this exponential growth in Food Stamps and other Welfare Programs...
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"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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I will go one further - the guy who was great at closing US plants and moving them to China so he could make millions was Romney himself. He is one of those reasons we have so many people on food stamps - he helped destroy America and ship jobs out of the country. And yet people like you want to see him run the whole show. It's amazing to me.
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And Obama could've helped job oportunity in this country with two simple legislative actions. These two things being tax policy and banking regulations.

First, The United State's corporated tax rate is the highest in the world, China's is one of the lowest. If we merely set our corporate tax rate in line with other manufacturing countries in the world, we would retain half of the manufacturing jobs we lose every year.

Second, the Glass-Steagall act was repealed by Clinton in 1999, and if they would reinstate that regulation it would again seperate Deposit Banking from Investment Banking, forcing the banks break up, and also forcing the deposit banks to start lending money to small business' again to make their profits, instead of investing it in the stock or derivative markets (which was illegal for deposit banks prior to the repeal of Glass-Steagall).

Now Obama was never specific on his 5.2% unemployment promise, but when you realize that 77% of all hiring in the USA comes from small buisness anyhow, those two simple things I listed above could change the face of job opportunity in this country, and Obama chose instead to pay off contributors and Congressmen who supported him with Stimulus money rather than make a real dent in the reason this countries economic system is broken...

But like I said, I didn't make the promise...Obama did.
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SaddleTROLL is bs because Obama is helping the poor. Money got to come from somewhere. Where? You know...
It is what it is. I tell it like it is. There's a reason for everything. Shove your 'moving thread off topic' up your you know what. 'SHOW ME WHERE I MOVED THREAD OFF TOPIC'
Point me out, when TEN other trolls did that. You're not half as smart as you think, not witty, and are headed down a very dark path.
OP is mad, I can tell, LOL

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First - the corporate tax rate is NOT that disproportionate. Nonpartisan tax analysts consistently find that corporations here on average pay just slightly more than their competitors in other developed countries after exploiting the many tax breaks and loopholes.

Here:

[link to www.nytimes.com]

The big difference for large multinational corporations is the cost of labor. While the cost of labor in China has actually gone up (leveling the playing field slightly) Obama and the shills in congress have signed off on THREE MORE FREE TRADE AGREEMENTS - sending jobs in to new cheap labor markets.

Second - both candidates agree that the corporate tax rate should be cut (Obama 28% and Romney 25%). Makes not an ounce of difference (see above). YET both candidates are for free trade and globalism. So the net results will be exactly the same no matter who gets in.

Third - Romney specifically says he will not reinstate Glass-Steagall:

[link to swampland.time.com]

So what was your point again?
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My point is that Obama could've done the things I listed above if he ever intended to keep his promise, instead he paid off contributors and allies with our tax money...

So my argument is the same as it's always been, that Obama never intended to keep this promise, he says anything he thinks people want to hear...

My argument has never been a pro Romney argument, merely an Anti-Obama one...
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And my point is Romney isn't changing jack shit.
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So if you have no defense of Obama and his failed policies, then why, pray tell, does he deserve another four years?!?!?
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Buddy you posted this negative crap like it has something to do with Obama - the ultimate causes are not Obama - they are 100 years of an agenda which has sent the wealth and power of this nation to the TOP. Obama is just the latest inserted cog in the machine. And your ultimate point was that Obama should get out so that Romney can change things. I think I have proven that the specific change that just you want is not coming. I personally don't care who you vote for - it's meaningless. The policies that got us here and continue to hurt us are not changing. The policies and results of the last 50 years show us this to be true. This is the Roman empire waging imperialist wars and destroying the financial system of this nation because they have insatiable desires to control everyone and everything. This is the Hitler syndrome. The Genghis Khan syndrome. Once the TOP gets the power they don't give it back. This is a historical fact. We're in an illusion of democracy - it's not real. Your post is another dream of some reality that doesn't exist. Stop spreading lies is all I am saying.
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the day is coming when u fudgepackers will cast your EBT cards into the street and you will smash your Obama phones......
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SaddleTROLL is bs because Obama is helping the poor. Money got to come from somewhere. Where? You know...
It is what it is. I tell it like it is. There's a reason for everything. Shove your 'moving thread off topic' up your you know what. Point me out when TEN other trolls did that too. You're not half as smart as you think, not witty, and are headed down a very dark path.
OP is mad, I can tell, LOL
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"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime..."

There's no hate for the poor, food stamps, or welfare here. I'm just pointing out the failed policies and promises of Obama that have led us to this point. I think if the things Obama had said were truth rather than lies, these people would have productive jobs instead of EBT cards...

I really think most of these people would have preferred a job to welfare, but alas Obama lied to them and all of us, and here we are...

Now we have to get down to fixing the mess this administration is leaving all of us...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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My point is that Obama could've done the things I listed above if he ever intended to keep his promise, instead he paid off contributors and allies with our tax money...

So my argument is the same as it's always been, that Obama never intended to keep this promise, he says anything he thinks people want to hear...

My argument has never been a pro Romney argument, merely an Anti-Obama one...
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And my point is Romney isn't changing jack shit.
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So if you have no defense of Obama and his failed policies, then why, pray tell, does he deserve another four years?!?!?
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Buddy you posted this negative crap like it has something to do with Obama - the ultimate causes are not Obama - they are 100 years of an agenda which has sent the wealth and power of this nation to the TOP. Obama is just the latest inserted cog in the machine. And your ultimate point was that Obama should get out so that Romney can change things. I think I have proven that the specific change that just you want is not coming. I personally don't care who you vote for - it's meaningless. The policies that got us here and continue to hurt us are not changing. The policies and results of the last 50 years show us this to be true. This is the Roman empire waging imperialist wars and destroying the financial system of this nation because they have insatiable desires to control everyone and everything. This is the Hitler syndrome. The Genghis Khan syndrome. Once the TOP gets the power they don't give it back. This is a historical fact. We're in an illusion of democracy - it's not real. Your post is another dream of some reality that doesn't exist. Stop spreading lies is all I am saying.
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I'm not spreading any lies, just qouting Obama's promises and telling where we are in relation to those promises. You're the one who keeps going off point...

You say, he couldn't fix it. Then why did he promise too?!?!? Why does he continue to offer the same platitudes he offered in 2008 if they had no hope of working the first time...

And if our whole system is just a farse, if our Republic is truly and totally lost, why are you so worried about a Romney presidency?!?!? Why do you waste your time supporting a puppet like Obama?!?!? If they have NO power whatsoever, what does it matter?!?!?

You, my friend, are making my argument for me...

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There couldn't be any jobs, with the economy crashing. Obama is being crucified for being optimistic. The book 'The Secret'. I'm sure OBAMA knows about, what it is about, and believes in it. Oprah did a show on it. You must talk POSITIVE and have 100% faith to try to achieve something. I can't even imagine the stress that Obama has been under, since he's been president. Any president would be VERY STRESSED and stress can really do a job on someone thinking clearly. Obama isn't God, but people expect too much out of him. I was told he fixed things, somewhat, from where George left off, but I wouldn't chance it by voting for someone else, just because Obama didn't wave a MAGIC WAND and fix the whole mess, in as little as four years.
BTW~ ALL POLITICIANS LIE.

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People should request Clinton back.

I'm tired of this.

BTW, I heard Monica was hired to seduce Clinton, to get him kicked out, in another conspiracy forum. If you googled the words you might be able to find it.

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The richest country on Earth and you they are supplying food stamps because they haven't enough to eat, amazing.
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Amazingly those on food stamps are for the most part obese and riding around in high end wheelchairs (they don't even have to use their arms) that are as wide as four feet across.
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There couldn't be any jobs, with the economy crashing. Obama is being crucified for being optimistic. The book 'The Secret'. I'm sure OBAMA knows about, what it is about, and believes in it. Oprah did a show on it. You must talk POSITIVE and have 100% faith to try to achieve something. I can't even imagine the stress that Obama has been under, since he's been president. Any president would be VERY STRESSED and stress can really do a job on someone thinking clearly. Obama isn't God, but people expect too much out of him. I was told he fixed things, somewhat, from where George left off, but I wouldn't chance it by voting for someone else, just because Obama didn't wave a MAGIC WAND and fix the whole mess, in as little as four years.
BTW~ ALL POLITICIANS LIE.
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And so based on the argument you just put forward above, and with no visible revisions to his plans going forward, you think he deserves four more years?!?!?

You, my friend, are making my point for me...
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Just for the record, I'm not on food stamps.
I'm just retired on social security. Don't think everyone can get food stamps. It depends on your household...
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The richest country on Earth and you they are supplying food stamps because they haven't enough to eat, amazing.
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Amazingly those on food stamps are for the most part obese and riding around in high end wheelchairs (they don't even have to use their arms) that are as wide as four feet across.
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Now come on...that's a fuckin' stretch...

I know there are examples of all kinds of people on Welfare, hell there are over 42 Million on it, so there must be every type of person imaginable on it.

My point is most of these people would really prefer to have a job. Job's that Obama promised, and failed to deliver...
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There couldn't be any jobs, with the economy crashing. Obama is being crucified for being optimistic. The book 'The Secret'. I'm sure OBAMA knows about, what it is about, and believes in it. Oprah did a show on it. You must talk POSITIVE and have 100% faith to try to achieve something. I can't even imagine the stress that Obama has been under, since he's been president. Any president would be VERY STRESSED and stress can really do a job on someone thinking clearly. Obama isn't God, but people expect too much out of him. I was told he fixed things, somewhat, from where George left off, but I wouldn't chance it by voting for someone else, just because Obama didn't wave a MAGIC WAND and fix the whole mess, in as little as four years.
BTW~ ALL POLITICIANS LIE.
 Quoting: thecelticcat


And so based on the argument you just put forward above, and with no visible revisions to his plans going forward, you think he deserves four more years?!?!?

You, my friend, are making my point for me...
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YOU HAVE HORRIBLE COMPREHENSION SKILLS! How many brain cells did you kill, in all the partying you've done???

OBAMA FIXED THINGS SOMEWHAT, MEANING A FAIR AMOUNT!

Just shut up. You keep shooting yourself in the foot and you do POST LIES.

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And my point is Romney isn't changing jack shit.
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So if you have no defense of Obama and his failed policies, then why, pray tell, does he deserve another four years?!?!?
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Buddy you posted this negative crap like it has something to do with Obama - the ultimate causes are not Obama - they are 100 years of an agenda which has sent the wealth and power of this nation to the TOP. Obama is just the latest inserted cog in the machine. And your ultimate point was that Obama should get out so that Romney can change things. I think I have proven that the specific change that just you want is not coming. I personally don't care who you vote for - it's meaningless. The policies that got us here and continue to hurt us are not changing. The policies and results of the last 50 years show us this to be true. This is the Roman empire waging imperialist wars and destroying the financial system of this nation because they have insatiable desires to control everyone and everything. This is the Hitler syndrome. The Genghis Khan syndrome. Once the TOP gets the power they don't give it back. This is a historical fact. We're in an illusion of democracy - it's not real. Your post is another dream of some reality that doesn't exist. Stop spreading lies is all I am saying.
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I'm not spreading any lies, just qouting Obama's promises and telling where we are in relation to those promises. You're the one who keeps going off point...

You say, he couldn't fix it. Then why did he promise too?!?!? Why does he continue to offer the same platitudes he offered in 2008 if they had no hope of working the first time...

And if our whole system is just a farse, if our Republic is truly and totally lost, why are you so worried about a Romney presidency?!?!? Why do you waste your time supporting a puppet like Obama?!?!? If they have NO power whatsoever, what does it matter?!?!?

You, my friend, are making my argument for me...
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Why do politicians make promises they can't/don't/won't keep? Is that your question? And you're serious?

I don't care who wins - I made that clear. Nothing will change. But keep you're false "hope" of some "change" - that's how they get ya - ain't it?
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So if you have no defense of Obama and his failed policies, then why, pray tell, does he deserve another four years?!?!?
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Buddy you posted this negative crap like it has something to do with Obama - the ultimate causes are not Obama - they are 100 years of an agenda which has sent the wealth and power of this nation to the TOP. Obama is just the latest inserted cog in the machine. And your ultimate point was that Obama should get out so that Romney can change things. I think I have proven that the specific change that just you want is not coming. I personally don't care who you vote for - it's meaningless. The policies that got us here and continue to hurt us are not changing. The policies and results of the last 50 years show us this to be true. This is the Roman empire waging imperialist wars and destroying the financial system of this nation because they have insatiable desires to control everyone and everything. This is the Hitler syndrome. The Genghis Khan syndrome. Once the TOP gets the power they don't give it back. This is a historical fact. We're in an illusion of democracy - it's not real. Your post is another dream of some reality that doesn't exist. Stop spreading lies is all I am saying.
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I'm not spreading any lies, just qouting Obama's promises and telling where we are in relation to those promises. You're the one who keeps going off point...

You say, he couldn't fix it. Then why did he promise too?!?!? Why does he continue to offer the same platitudes he offered in 2008 if they had no hope of working the first time...

And if our whole system is just a farse, if our Republic is truly and totally lost, why are you so worried about a Romney presidency?!?!? Why do you waste your time supporting a puppet like Obama?!?!? If they have NO power whatsoever, what does it matter?!?!?

You, my friend, are making my argument for me...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Why do politicians make promises they can't/don't/won't keep? Is that your question? And you're serious?

I don't care who wins - I made that clear. Nothing will change. But keep you're false "hope" of some "change" - that's how they get ya - ain't it?
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They all tell you what you want to hear, but I really believe Obama believes words hold much power. He is friends with Oprah and she has talked about 'The Secret', that book, and strongly believes in it. Words linger in the air and come back. I've seen the video and even the Kabbalah puts emphasis on the words, what you put out, supposed to cause positive change if they are only positive words.
Did Obama literally say 'I promise...? Maybe he was too overly optimistic. People think he's like a God, when he is only human.
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I have a good chuckle at those who accuse everyone on some kind of benefits to be "benefits cheats", then the next week they're on them.

The opposite seems to be happening here in the UK. People are being chucked off benefits left and right over here. Not just cheats, even those that are genuinely ill. The government outsourced to a company to do the medicals, and it's now treated as some sort of test, where each section is graded and given points. It's pretty screwed up, and next to impossible for even those badly ill to even pass. If you have mental illness you're basically screwed. If you come into the interview barely able to breath you're still probably screwed. Basically, they have to fail a certain quota of people, and everything they say is designed to contradict what you say about your illnesses, they've been know to twist, ignore and outright lie about your condition so when it gets sent to be "marked" you fail. It's supposedly meant to save money, but when you see how frequent these tests are, how many have to take them, and how much this company is payed...how much can they REALLY be saving?

So basically, no jobs except the worst...and no benefits either. Oh and never become ill in any way. There's some real horror stories out there.
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How's that Hope and Change workin' out for ya?!?!?

Food Stamp Growth 75X Greater Than Job Creation

With the latest jobs report, it is now the case that "Under Obama, Food Stamp Growth [Is] 75 Times Greater Than Job Creation," according to statistics compiled by the Republican side of the Senate Budget Committee. "For Every Person Added to Jobs Rolls Since January 2009, 75 People Added To Food Stamp Rolls."...

[link to www.weeklystandard.com]

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dream on ... the fix is in
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How's that Hope and Change workin' out for ya?!?!?

Food Stamp Growth 75X Greater Than Job Creation

With the latest jobs report, it is now the case that "Under Obama, Food Stamp Growth [Is] 75 Times Greater Than Job Creation," according to statistics compiled by the Republican side of the Senate Budget Committee. "For Every Person Added to Jobs Rolls Since January 2009, 75 People Added To Food Stamp Rolls."...

[link to www.weeklystandard.com]

ochange
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dream on ... the fix is in
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Has Nothing to do with Obama, would have happened regardless of who is in office. We have off shored our manufacturing and it will only continue to get worse. The last thing we invented was Spanks, the last thing we cured was polio. This is the end of empire. Quit placing blame and get ready


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It makes sense. After all those people that lost jobs, before he came into office, went through their savings, They started to get on welfare.

There was a poll on here about how many people where unemployed. It was more than 50%, I would guess those people (many if not all of your ilk) are on food stamps.

Take sometime and think critically before you post.
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So if you have no defense of Obama and his failed policies, then why, pray tell, does he deserve another four years?!?!?
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Buddy you posted this negative crap like it has something to do with Obama - the ultimate causes are not Obama - they are 100 years of an agenda which has sent the wealth and power of this nation to the TOP. Obama is just the latest inserted cog in the machine. And your ultimate point was that Obama should get out so that Romney can change things. I think I have proven that the specific change that just you want is not coming. I personally don't care who you vote for - it's meaningless. The policies that got us here and continue to hurt us are not changing. The policies and results of the last 50 years show us this to be true. This is the Roman empire waging imperialist wars and destroying the financial system of this nation because they have insatiable desires to control everyone and everything. This is the Hitler syndrome. The Genghis Khan syndrome. Once the TOP gets the power they don't give it back. This is a historical fact. We're in an illusion of democracy - it's not real. Your post is another dream of some reality that doesn't exist. Stop spreading lies is all I am saying.
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I'm not spreading any lies, just qouting Obama's promises and telling where we are in relation to those promises. You're the one who keeps going off point...

You say, he couldn't fix it. Then why did he promise too?!?!? Why does he continue to offer the same platitudes he offered in 2008 if they had no hope of working the first time...

And if our whole system is just a farse, if our Republic is truly and totally lost, why are you so worried about a Romney presidency?!?!? Why do you waste your time supporting a puppet like Obama?!?!? If they have NO power whatsoever, what does it matter?!?!?

You, my friend, are making my argument for me...
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Why do politicians make promises they can't/don't/won't keep? Is that your question? And you're serious?

I don't care who wins - I made that clear. Nothing will change. But keep you're false "hope" of some "change" - that's how they get ya - ain't it?
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Yet you are the one that felt the need to come riding to Obama's defense. I never advocated a pro-position for any candidate, yet you claim I'm caught up in some sheeple fantasy...

So if I think the best way to make politicians actually work for us is to hold them accountable, I'm what, being too niave?!?!? How else will our government ever come to be of the people again if we leave lying politicians in office. I say if a politician makes a promise, then doesn't follow through, he should be gone. Obama even said that himself in 2008...

See you're trying to have both sides of the argument. Look if you want to be pro Obama, which you have consistently been, that's fine, it's a free country, but don't cloak yourself in some hipster libertarian fantasy...

Is that you Bill Maher?!?!?

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There couldn't be any jobs, with the economy crashing. Obama is being crucified for being optimistic. The book 'The Secret'. I'm sure OBAMA knows about, what it is about, and believes in it. Oprah did a show on it. You must talk POSITIVE and have 100% faith to try to achieve something. I can't even imagine the stress that Obama has been under, since he's been president. Any president would be VERY STRESSED and stress can really do a job on someone thinking clearly. Obama isn't God, but people expect too much out of him. I was told he fixed things, somewhat, from where George left off, but I wouldn't chance it by voting for someone else, just because Obama didn't wave a MAGIC WAND and fix the whole mess, in as little as four years.
BTW~ ALL POLITICIANS LIE.
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And so based on the argument you just put forward above, and with no visible revisions to his plans going forward, you think he deserves four more years?!?!?

You, my friend, are making my point for me...
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YOU HAVE HORRIBLE COMPREHENSION SKILLS! How many brain cells did you kill, in all the partying you've done???

OBAMA FIXED THINGS SOMEWHAT, MEANING A FAIR AMOUNT!

Just shut up. You keep shooting yourself in the foot and you do POST LIES.
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So now your argument changes to, Obama has given us four years of mediocrity, he's not altered any of his platitudes from 2008 which didn't work then, and won't work now, so at best we're in for four more years of mediocrity if Obama gets in. And again I ask, he deserves four more years, why?!?!?
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It makes sense. After all those people that lost jobs, before he came into office, went through their savings, They started to get on welfare.

There was a poll on here about how many people where unemployed. It was more than 50%, I would guess those people (many if not all of your ilk) are on food stamps.

Take sometime and think critically before you post.
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You didn't take any time to actually read the article before you posted did you?!?!?

If you had, you would've noticed a graph that shows food stamp growth and employment by year. When you look at that graph, you will find nothing you said above is true at all...

So you were saying?!?!?
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Has Nothing to do with Obama, would have happened regardless of who is in office. We have off shored our manufacturing and it will only continue to get worse. The last thing we invented was Spanks, the last thing we cured was polio. This is the end of empire. Quit placing blame and get ready.
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FACT The poor are getting poorer and the rich are getting richer. Republicans are to blame for that.
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Exactly. The cause of more food stamp use isn't that the rules for obtaining food stamps has changed, it's that there are more people without jobs because of corporate greed, mishandling in the banking and housing industries, downsizing, and American jobs being sent overseas.

A more pressing issue is that global warming, earthquakes, and other natural disasters have been on the rise since the 1800s. This is directly related to the decrease in the number of pirates in the world.

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You won't get anything for free UNLESS your a welfare mom, elderly, or have a disability. People that I feel bad for the most, and I know a few of them, are the elderly, and people with a disability, because they don't get much at all. I never heard of anyone getting a free phone, but maybe they (my friends) don't know they can, get one, if they apply...
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And just as an informative: the free phone was initially set up by Reagan I think, and it was for land lines in case of an emergency. Land lines are a whole lot cheaper than cell phones. But since Oblabla, now they can get the fancy I phones, I don't have one of those and I pay my bills myself. I cannot afford one. It upsets me to see a food stamp person getting something like that for free. Texting is not an emergency way of comunication. or the need for 3g or 4g phones.
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FOUND OUT THIS WAS A FLAT OUT LIE.
FOX news aired it because they are REPUBLICANS trying to make Obama look a certain way *cough*
I just asked one of my step daughter's friends and she said she wishes she could have gotten an iphone! Obama gave her the sh!tiest, cheapest phone. Here are the facts, look them up. She only gets 250 min/month for phone calls and 250 text messages(not free though, each text message cost small amount) BECAUSE TEACHERS DO TEXT PARENTS! HA!
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Quit talking out of your ass. The teachers email parents they dont text.
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Buddy you posted this negative crap like it has something to do with Obama - the ultimate causes are not Obama - they are 100 years of an agenda which has sent the wealth and power of this nation to the TOP. Obama is just the latest inserted cog in the machine. And your ultimate point was that Obama should get out so that Romney can change things. I think I have proven that the specific change that just you want is not coming. I personally don't care who you vote for - it's meaningless. The policies that got us here and continue to hurt us are not changing. The policies and results of the last 50 years show us this to be true. This is the Roman empire waging imperialist wars and destroying the financial system of this nation because they have insatiable desires to control everyone and everything. This is the Hitler syndrome. The Genghis Khan syndrome. Once the TOP gets the power they don't give it back. This is a historical fact. We're in an illusion of democracy - it's not real. Your post is another dream of some reality that doesn't exist. Stop spreading lies is all I am saying.
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I'm not spreading any lies, just qouting Obama's promises and telling where we are in relation to those promises. You're the one who keeps going off point...

You say, he couldn't fix it. Then why did he promise too?!?!? Why does he continue to offer the same platitudes he offered in 2008 if they had no hope of working the first time...

And if our whole system is just a farse, if our Republic is truly and totally lost, why are you so worried about a Romney presidency?!?!? Why do you waste your time supporting a puppet like Obama?!?!? If they have NO power whatsoever, what does it matter?!?!?

You, my friend, are making my argument for me...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Why do politicians make promises they can't/don't/won't keep? Is that your question? And you're serious?

I don't care who wins - I made that clear. Nothing will change. But keep you're false "hope" of some "change" - that's how they get ya - ain't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3978737


Yet you are the one that felt the need to come riding to Obama's defense. I never advocated a pro-position for any candidate, yet you claim I'm caught up in some sheeple fantasy...

So if I think the best way to make politicians actually work for us is to hold them accountable, I'm what, being too niave?!?!? How else will our government ever come to be of the people again if we leave lying politicians in office. I say if a politician makes a promise, then doesn't follow through, he should be gone. Obama even said that himself in 2008...

See you're trying to have both sides of the argument. Look if you want to be pro Obama, which you have consistently been, that's fine, it's a free country, but don't cloak yourself in some hipster libertarian fantasy...

Is that you Bill Maher?!?!?
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I don't know where you get I am pro-Obama - because I am not. I think you're selling the cool aide with this bullshit about how he is somehow to blame for a rise in food stamps. As discussed above - Romney is going to give us the same polices that Obama gives us that Bush gives us - which is no financial regulation and globalism and free trade - which has killed out industries and resulted in higher unemployment and more welfare - it a 100 year course of action. Not a 4 year slide. So I said stop spewing lies - your lie being that Obama is solely to blame and Romney is going to rescue us (which is implied in your dumb ass post). Here's what is still happening as a result of globalism in America.

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