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Hey Christians, Lets fight With Our Thoughts!
Hello fellow GLPers, I am starting this thread to have an honest debate about why christianity is complete bullshit.

Christians worship a god who knowingly cast an evil entity down to earth where he then created our souls and placed them here. He gives us one lifetime to decide our eternal fate with only two destinations, heaven and hell. He had to incarnate as a human being in order to open the pathway to heaven and releave us of our sins. He still hasnt cast satan away from earth and allows him to deceave billions of us.

If this isnt enough of a reason to walk away from this evil religion than maybe this will be.

In 325AD Constantine gathered many different religious and cult leaders together to construct an organized and national religion which they would end up calling the catholic church. They manipulated ancient doctrines and books to justify certain horrible acts and created the god of christianity.

So lets hear it Christians, lets have an intelectual discussion about the truth and nature of your religion.
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better read Matthew, and think about what you just said... you know Yeshua is tugging at your heart.. you will hopefully come to listening to you heart sooner than later.. god bless brother/sister (:
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Your god justifies slavery in the very book he supposedly wrote.


Colossians 3:22

King James Version (KJV)


22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God;

Are we not a form of a modern day slave? Is this god telling us to obey our governments as though they are our earthly masters?
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better read Matthew, and think about what you just said... you know Yeshua is tugging at your heart.. you will hopefully come to listening to you heart sooner than later.. god bless brother/sister (:
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I have read the bible and can see through the bullshit. Sure there are very good morals in that book and i do live my life as close to christ as i know how but i will never bow to your evil religion.
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I don't like where your going with this, OP.

So God doesn't exist?

Interesting, interesting theory. Um, who else isn’t real? Hmm? You gonna tell me Elmo isn’t real? Huh? SpongeBob? Is he not real? Is SpongeBob not there at the bottom of the ocean giving Squidward the business? Hmm? And what about Curious George? Huh? Does he not really exist? Hmm? Is Curious George not really out there makin’ little boats out of newspapers that he should be delivering? Huh?

Educate yourself, you fool.
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Well, I'll see how I go, it depends on your level of ignorance about Chriatianity, and so far I'm not convinced it is worth the effort, for a start -
"Christians worship a god who knowingly cast an evil entity down to earth where he then created our souls and placed them here"
God actually created us first, we didn't get placed here with satan.

[link to www.biblegateway.com]
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I don't like where your going with this, OP.

So God doesn't exist?

Interesting, interesting theory. Um, who else isn’t real? Hmm? You gonna tell me Elmo isn’t real? Huh? SpongeBob? Is he not real? Is SpongeBob not there at the bottom of the ocean giving Squidward the business? Hmm? And what about Curious George? Huh? Does he not really exist? Hmm? Is Curious George not really out there makin’ little boats out of newspapers that he should be delivering? Huh?

Educate yourself, you fool.
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Your are wrong in your thinking. I never once said god does not exist. God definitely does exist and lives within each of us.
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Well, I'll see how I go, it depends on your level of ignorance about Chriatianity, and so far I'm not convinced it is worth the effort, for a start -
"Christians worship a god who knowingly cast an evil entity down to earth where he then created our souls and placed them here"
God actually created us first, we didn't get placed here with satan.

[link to www.biblegateway.com]
 Quoting: K.Kool


If thats true than that is even worse... So god allowed satan to exist on the same planet as his creations? And then he couldnt make sure satan wouldnt be able to manipulate us and turn us against god?

Thats insane.
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I don't like where your going with this, OP.

So God doesn't exist?

Interesting, interesting theory. Um, who else isn’t real? Hmm? You gonna tell me Elmo isn’t real? Huh? SpongeBob? Is he not real? Is SpongeBob not there at the bottom of the ocean giving Squidward the business? Hmm? And what about Curious George? Huh? Does he not really exist? Hmm? Is Curious George not really out there makin’ little boats out of newspapers that he should be delivering? Huh?

Educate yourself, you fool.
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Your are wrong in your thinking. I never once said god does not exist. God definitely does exist and lives within each of us.
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I was just joking, sheesh, this is a tough crowd. I like your version of God, though.
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there are better arguments then the two the OP has presented......
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Well, I'll see how I go, it depends on your level of ignorance about Chriatianity, and so far I'm not convinced it is worth the effort, for a start -
"Christians worship a god who knowingly cast an evil entity down to earth where he then created our souls and placed them here"
God actually created us first, we didn't get placed here with satan.

[link to www.biblegateway.com]
 Quoting: K.Kool


But if GOD is omniscient he knew all that would happen.

He knew Satan would rebel, he knew a third of the angels would fall also, and he knew what effect Satan would have on us when set amongst us!
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I don't like where your going with this, OP.

So God doesn't exist?

Interesting, interesting theory. Um, who else isn’t real? Hmm? You gonna tell me Elmo isn’t real? Huh? SpongeBob? Is he not real? Is SpongeBob not there at the bottom of the ocean giving Squidward the business? Hmm? And what about Curious George? Huh? Does he not really exist? Hmm? Is Curious George not really out there makin’ little boats out of newspapers that he should be delivering? Huh?

Educate yourself, you fool.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3168735


Your are wrong in your thinking. I never once said god does not exist. God definitely does exist and lives within each of us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26698608


I was just joking, sheesh, this is a tough crowd. I like your version of God, though.
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Haha i know brother, im just in debate mode right now!
I havent even begun to explain my version of god my friend, if you wanna read my opinion on god pop over to this thread.
Thread: I Never Believed In Christianity Until I Read This Verse! (Page 4)
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there are better arguments then the two the OP has presented......
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I know but this is just the beginning of the thread bro, feel free to drop some knowledge all up on us!
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Re: Hey Christians, Lets fight With Our Thoughts!
Your god justifies slavery in the very book he supposedly wrote.


Colossians 3:22

King James Version (KJV)


22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God;

Are we not a form of a modern day slave? Is this god telling us to obey our governments as though they are our earthly masters?
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You should invest in a Geneva.. the king james has alot of omissions. also.. research the aramaic translations.. dive deep.. that never hurts.
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I don't like where your going with this, OP.

So God doesn't exist?

Interesting, interesting theory. Um, who else isn’t real? Hmm? You gonna tell me Elmo isn’t real? Huh? SpongeBob? Is he not real? Is SpongeBob not there at the bottom of the ocean giving Squidward the business? Hmm? And what about Curious George? Huh? Does he not really exist? Hmm? Is Curious George not really out there makin’ little boats out of newspapers that he should be delivering? Huh?

Educate yourself, you fool.
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ive done five units of early modern to industrial revolution european history and i'm with op.

history of church vs state tells the truth about christianity the best.

thank god the state removed their power, or we would all be like the middle east.
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Well, I'll see how I go, it depends on your level of ignorance about Chriatianity, and so far I'm not convinced it is worth the effort, for a start -
"Christians worship a god who knowingly cast an evil entity down to earth where he then created our souls and placed them here"
God actually created us first, we didn't get placed here with satan.

[link to www.biblegateway.com]
 Quoting: K.Kool


But if GOD is omniscient he knew all that would happen.

He knew Satan would rebel, he knew a third of the angels would fall also, and he knew what effect Satan would have on us when set amongst us!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661


Boom! There is no argument that this god is either a psycopath or pretend once that is put on the table!
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Your god justifies slavery in the very book he supposedly wrote.


Colossians 3:22

King James Version (KJV)


22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God;

Are we not a form of a modern day slave? Is this god telling us to obey our governments as though they are our earthly masters?
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You should invest in a Geneva.. the king james has alot of omissions. also.. research the aramaic translations.. dive deep.. that never hurts.
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Oh bro im swimming in the deep end as we speak and constantine is down here manipulating your feeble little mind as we speak!
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I don't like where your going with this, OP.

So God doesn't exist?

Interesting, interesting theory. Um, who else isn’t real? Hmm? You gonna tell me Elmo isn’t real? Huh? SpongeBob? Is he not real? Is SpongeBob not there at the bottom of the ocean giving Squidward the business? Hmm? And what about Curious George? Huh? Does he not really exist? Hmm? Is Curious George not really out there makin’ little boats out of newspapers that he should be delivering? Huh?

Educate yourself, you fool.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3168735


ive done five units of early modern to industrial revolution european history and i'm with op.

history of church vs state tells the truth about christianity the best.

thank god the state removed their power, or we would all be like the middle east.
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Much love australia, the sooner these christians break from their brainwashing the sooner we can all seek enlightenment.
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Religion is meant to control your mind and keep you from seeking the truth. If you believe and accept everything that men have written in a book then you do not ask the right questions. If your stuck in your religious paradigm you turn your back on anything that does not fit in the paradigm you have created for yourself.
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Well, I'll see how I go, it depends on your level of ignorance about Chriatianity, and so far I'm not convinced it is worth the effort, for a start -
"Christians worship a god who knowingly cast an evil entity down to earth where he then created our souls and placed them here"
God actually created us first, we didn't get placed here with satan.

[link to www.biblegateway.com]
 Quoting: K.Kool


If thats true than that is even worse... So god allowed satan to exist on the same planet as his creations? And then he couldnt make sure satan wouldnt be able to manipulate us and turn us against god?

Thats insane.
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It would have been more insane to create a bunch of mindless robots, at least we're entertaining.
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Re: Hey Christians, Lets fight With Our Thoughts!
Well, I'll see how I go, it depends on your level of ignorance about Chriatianity, and so far I'm not convinced it is worth the effort, for a start -
"Christians worship a god who knowingly cast an evil entity down to earth where he then created our souls and placed them here"
God actually created us first, we didn't get placed here with satan.

[link to www.biblegateway.com]
 Quoting: K.Kool


But if GOD is omniscient he knew all that would happen.

He knew Satan would rebel, he knew a third of the angels would fall also, and he knew what effect Satan would have on us when set amongst us!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661


Boom! There is no argument that this god is either a psycopath or pretend once that is put on the table!
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What I
I find funny is how you foolish dolts think you can judge God's motives. You are less than a worm in intelligence compared too God.
But hey. You are blessed with freewill to reject salvation
.. Enjoy hell. You chose it.
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arguing truth with a non believer is not possible, there is no convincing them. God came to earth in the flesh and was crucified.
what can i possibly tell you that he hasn't already ?


Read Luke chapter 16:14-31
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Well, I'll see how I go, it depends on your level of ignorance about Chriatianity, and so far I'm not convinced it is worth the effort, for a start -
"Christians worship a god who knowingly cast an evil entity down to earth where he then created our souls and placed them here"
God actually created us first, we didn't get placed here with satan.

[link to www.biblegateway.com]
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But if GOD is omniscient he knew all that would happen.

He knew Satan would rebel, he knew a third of the angels would fall also, and he knew what effect Satan would have on us when set amongst us!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661



He knows, but we don't, our souls are designed to try to find Him.
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Re: Hey Christians, Lets fight With Our Thoughts!
Well, I'll see how I go, it depends on your level of ignorance about Chriatianity, and so far I'm not convinced it is worth the effort, for a start -
"Christians worship a god who knowingly cast an evil entity down to earth where he then created our souls and placed them here"
God actually created us first, we didn't get placed here with satan.

[link to www.biblegateway.com]
 Quoting: K.Kool


If thats true than that is even worse... So god allowed satan to exist on the same planet as his creations? And then he couldnt make sure satan wouldnt be able to manipulate us and turn us against god?

Thats insane.
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It would have been more insane to create a bunch of mindless robots, at least we're entertaining.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I never said we were mindless robots... There is no hell...

Oh yeah are we entertaining? Going to wars and killing gods creations?

Everything you do is controlled, you have NO free will. Before incarnating you choose exactly what you want to experience. If you want to experience being an evil controller then you incarnate into an illuminatti bloodline. If you want to be a christ like being your incarnate into a life that is most like christs. YOU decide your fate in this realm before coming in. God created us to have cosmic freewill but not in the reality. Sure you can choose to buy a certain brand of toothpaste or car but you cannot choose your destiny.
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Hey OP what do you think of the New Jerusalem calendar?
[link to newjerusalemcalendar.com]


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This guy was burned at the stake. Immolation was popular because to spill blood was considered a sin. You got to hand it to Christians, always trying to pull one over on God.

Christians I have known are always projecting the sense of foreshadowed forgiveness for uncontrollable vices, that someone (Allegedly God in his own sons body, who was a bastard and adopted) died so that they can continue to be prone to vice; so long as they remember that some other poor bastard will be nailed to a cross for what they do.


"by plunging into the depths of the mind, for which there is no great need to open the eyes to the sky, to raise the hands, to direct the steps to the temple, nor sing to the ears of statues in order to be the better heard, but to come into the inner self believing that, God is near, present and within, more fully than man himself,[G] being soul of souls, life of lives, essence of essences: for that which you see above or below, or round about, or however you please to say it, of the stars, are bodies, are created things, similar to this globe on which we are, and in which the divinity is present neither more nor less than he is in this globe of ours or in ourselves."


Bruno, Giordano (2011-03-30). De gli eroici furori. English (Kindle Locations 229-234).
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arguing truth with a non believer is not possible, there is no convincing them. God came to earth in the flesh and was crucified.
what can i possibly tell you that he hasn't already ?


Read Luke chapter 16:14-31
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That is the biggest cop out ive ever heard... If i am gods child and he loves me why would he allow my heart to be hardened to his truth?

Your god has told me nothing... Constantine has told me plenty of things in his book but that was for his own political gain...
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Hey OP what do you think of the New Jerusalem calendar?
[link to newjerusalemcalendar.com]


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I dont know what to think about it to be honest. Ive seen you post a couple threads about it but am unaware of how you came to your conclusion. I a open to anything but if this is based on biblical predictions consdier me out my friend.
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This guy was burned at the stake. Immolation was popular because to spill blood was considered a sin. You got to hand it to Christians, always trying to pull one over on God.

Christians I have known are always projecting the sense of foreshadowed forgiveness for uncontrollable vices, that someone (Allegedly God in his own sons body, who was a bastard and adopted) died so that they can continue to be prone to vice; so long as they remember that some other poor bastard will be nailed to a cross for what they do.


"by plunging into the depths of the mind, for which there is no great need to open the eyes to the sky, to raise the hands, to direct the steps to the temple, nor sing to the ears of statues in order to be the better heard, but to come into the inner self believing that, God is near, present and within, more fully than man himself,[G] being soul of souls, life of lives, essence of essences: for that which you see above or below, or round about, or however you please to say it, of the stars, are bodies, are created things, similar to this globe on which we are, and in which the divinity is present neither more nor less than he is in this globe of ours or in ourselves."


Bruno, Giordano (2011-03-30). De gli eroici furori. English (Kindle Locations 229-234).
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Exactly, they say christ died for their sins but they are the biggest sinners alive haha and they justify their sins by saying they worship the very being who sacrificed himself for them... Heres an idea... try to live like christ instead of taking advantage of him. If christians lived like christ i would probably be one of them.
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Well, I'll see how I go, it depends on your level of ignorance about Chriatianity, and so far I'm not convinced it is worth the effort, for a start -
"Christians worship a god who knowingly cast an evil entity down to earth where he then created our souls and placed them here"
God actually created us first, we didn't get placed here with satan.

[link to www.biblegateway.com]
 Quoting: K.Kool


If thats true than that is even worse... So god allowed satan to exist on the same planet as his creations? And then he couldnt make sure satan wouldnt be able to manipulate us and turn us against god?

Thats insane.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26698608




It would have been more insane to create a bunch of mindless robots, at least we're entertaining.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I never said we were mindless robots... There is no hell...

Oh yeah are we entertaining? Going to wars and killing gods creations?

Everything you do is controlled, you have NO free will. Before incarnating you choose exactly what you want to experience. If you want to experience being an evil controller then you incarnate into an illuminatti bloodline. If you want to be a christ like being your incarnate into a life that is most like christs. YOU decide your fate in this realm before coming in. God created us to have cosmic freewill but not in the reality. Sure you can choose to buy a certain brand of toothpaste or car but you cannot choose your destiny.
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LOL, cosmic freewill, but not in reality :)

So, out there in space in some alternative reality, I chose to experience being the mother of a severely disabled daughter, then I arrived here, and now I'm just having that experience?
Shit, I wish I'd chosen to be a movie star.
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Hey OP what do you think of the New Jerusalem calendar?
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I dont know what to think about it to be honest. Ive seen you post a couple threads about it but am unaware of how you came to your conclusion. I a open to anything but if this is based on biblical predictions consdier me out my friend.
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It is what Popes and Caesars and Kings have argued over. The calendar foundation of society.


Fri Oct 8/18/12





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