Clarifications on the Nobody Story

If only.

but can you blame them? when something becomes more and more mainstream, you will see alot of different angles, some less scientific than others.
Not everyone has the mental resources and background to put as much work and detail in it, as you do, but the intrigue remains :)

no offence to anyone!
I do not mean to imply that OP has less mental resources than Apollo :p
different background perhaps

Last Edited by Michael_ on 11/05/2012 10:32 AM

Tell me where I am mistaken then, in your opinion.

You asked me why he would have to work at something, saying that he doesn't have to because it is his birthright.

I said he would need to work at it just to do a better job once in that position.

Then, you say, again, that he doesn't have to do shit, because it is his birthright.

So, I showed you an example why it would be a good idea to learn everything he can to prepare for a position...

...and you say that my world view is fucked up and that my comparison is faulty.

So, tell me where I have been mistaken. Actually, answer me this, directly.

Do you think it is a better idea to prepare for a birthright 'position', or do you think, since it is a birthright, he should release ALL responsibility?

there is a difference between working at something and working for something.

i clarified my previous post and gave the reason for why i believe your comparison is faulty.

i didn't way your world view is fucked up, i said it's provincial. YOU said it's fucked up.

as for a direct answer to your question....

to say:
'we need to verify who this person is before we give him his birth right'

is completely different from:
'we want this person to learn this, that and something else before we give him his birth right.'

the latter is a slippery slope

Apollo, correct me if I'm wrong, but I have never seen you offer, and I have never seen anyone ask, for you to pin a thread to the top of the page so they can share some sort of " profound " knowledge.

Personally I wonder what it is that an educated man like yourself would look for, you seem to have already been educated in the things you talk about.

So what exactly are you looking for ?

Somebody to discuss the things you already know ?

A messiah ?

An apprentice ?

I'm confused.

Again, you are stating that he should not be responsible for preparing for what his birthright will eventually lead to.

I say that it is a better idea to prepare.

It is your view that is faulty. There is no way anyone can say that it is better to be unprepared, than prepared.

I think you are just aggravated and are attempting to pretend you are correct because I said I get tired of correcting stupid shit...just like this.

no.

what i'm saying is...

if this person is the ONE...

who the fuck are you or anyone else to decide what he needs to do or doesn't need to do?

Now, we are coming back to agreement.

Well, since this individual wouldn't have known who he was until just the right time, then it follows he would have been completely unprepared for it, that's been discussed here ad nauseum.

So how exactly would some poor sap, by all means " loser ", prepare for a role like that, how long does it take, and who makes the decision he's " ready " ?

Hey !saac.

Hasn't it gone around that he has been learning stuff from them these last 3-5 years or so? I'm probably wrong. I thought it was going around on a couple of the threads a while back.



(lmao at your pun)

Last Edited by Saptaparna on 11/05/2012 10:51 AM

if it is indeed a "divine plan" if such a thing as the divine even exists, then he would have been ready all along, in the core.
a theory is that the higher self takes over, or some other spirit of divine nature, if that is true, then whatever the guy does, has little to no meaning, since he is just a placeholder :p

volunteer to enter this realm of high density to serve as a backdoor/trojan :D
I dunno

ehh that is not really helpfull to the whole couch-potato savior thingy hehe ;D
and that theory depends on the theory of souls and reincarnation/intent of lifecycle / soul contract or whatever it would be called.

But Im guessing you mean the rags to riches theory ;)
every mans dream right? :D

Last Edited by Michael_ on 11/05/2012 11:09 AM

Isaac, I have asked many times for others to make a post, put at least a half hour of prep into it or a few hours and Ill pin it for them, No one took the offer accept Uncle Mikey and he saw the lack of interest too and pulled out..

Without ones like him around, I guess Ill go back to going back to what I was doing before...Maybe Ill go write a book.

it's hard to be a lackey apollo...sorry for your pain.

Hhhmmmm.

A post on what though ?

The things you seem to be interested in, astrotheology, occult, etc, are things that an individual who's to play the role of ...whatever you guys call it, would have to have been oblivious to in the first place.

I look at it like this:

If everything is put here by god, and most if not all the prophecies and predictions, folklore, etc, all pertain to this person, then how could somebody who is that person, been educated in those topics and at the same time remained unaware of the fact it was all about them ?

Only by being uneducated in those areas, and as a result,oblivious to it, no ?

The bible does say something about not even "the son " knowing the day or the hour, so the scenario I outlined above would agree with that statement from scripture, right ?

In any event, there's more to talk about then astro-theology and occult matters, and you have to keep in mind that a lot of what we see on these threads, regardless of the well-meaning intent behind them, is all Greek to the layman.

All the diagrams and fancy pictures, etc, I'm not trying to discount them by any means, I'm just saying it's like a form of unintended obscurantism.

I don't know about every man's dream

It would depend how how they view things like poverty.

Some of us are " poor " by choice, and some of us will be " poor " no matter how much money we obtain.

I think it's a bad idea to allow a man burdened by his attachments to money to mete out large sums, that much is obvious by how little control people have with money, for the most part.

I would go more with the " Rags-to-rags " theory.

the bliss and curse of money :)
and the corruption and greed that follows it around like a shadow.

if people have alot of money invested in a certain project, they usually go to great lenghts to protect that project, no matter the cost ;)

maybe it could be like this:
sorry to post vids, but check out what the king does in the end of the vid ;) alot of symbolism in it.

you still didn't adress posting nobody threads less than a year ago.

sorry for being an ass im just honest.

you still didn't adress posting nobody threads less than a year ago.

sorry for being an ass im just honest.

Also never said it was BS.
- I am not ONE to be "intimidated" by any thing in which you speak of.

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United States 10/15/2012 04:07 PM




Re: We all wish we were the nobody



The fact that you believe that what knowledge and power the Nobody has aquired over his lifetimes cannot be learned is the exact reason he needs to be here at all at this time.



  Because all of you would rather sit on your thumbs and wait for a saviour to come and do it for you than choose to do the work and learn for yourselves.



  He knows nothing that he has not learned, and he knows nothing that you cannot learn as well.



Your refusal to learn is why you are still trapped here in this prison.



Once again he has come to share his learned wisdom and teach all of us how to live in a manner that works best for the well being of our eternal souls. He does all of this through example, and by no other means. he claims no title, position, or authority. He has no intention of being a figurehead; however, once again his "image" or "persona" has been manipulated and perverted by those who desire to obscure his message.



  Once again mankind is swayed by what others have to say about him, yet completely ignore the words that come from his own mouth. Once again he finds himself a stranger in the room full of his staunchest supporters. Once again, they would not know him unless he wore a name tag and the authenticity was verified by someone else; they do not know him with their own hearts.


We all wish that we were the Nobody? Not hardly. Some of us wish that we didn't need to be



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Humanity grows more and more intelligent, yet there is clearly more trouble and less happiness daily. How can this be so?



It is because intelligence is not the same thing as wisdom. When a society misuses partial intelligence and ignores holistic wisdom, its people forget the benefits of a plain and natural life.



Seduced by their desires, emotions, and egos, they become slaves to bodily demands, to luxuries, to power and unbalanced religion and psychological excuses.



Then the reign of calamity and confusion begins. Nonetheless, superior people can awaken during times of turmoil to lead others out of the mire.


But how can the one liberate the many? By first liberating his own being. He does this nor by elevating himself, but by lowering himself.



He lowers himself to that which is simple, modest, true; integrating it into himself, he becomes a master of simplicity, modesty, truth.



Completely emancipated from his former false life, he discovers his original pure nature, which is the pure nature of the universe.
Freely and spontaneously releasing his divine energy, he constantly transcends complicated situations and draws everything around him back into an integral oneness. Because he is a living divinity, when he acts, the universe acts.



Taken from Hua Hu Ching: The Unknown Teachings of Lao Tzu


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Good question.

If we go off the premise they would have been completely unaware of who they are, until a certain time, then we have to assume that would be like dropping a bomb in somebody's lap, to give it to them all at once.

You could prepare a person like that for their role ahead of time by exposing them to certain things, without exposing to them who they are.

That would be an easier way to do it, so as not to fry the person's mind completely when the time came, what they would be exposed to is a matter of hashing out logical inferences through conversation.

Who they are, in relation to genealogy/lineage, would only be somebody who's family had been involved in the usual shadowy " secret society " groups everybody loves to talk about, likely compartmentalized like secret societies are known to do, and I would think, completely unknown to the person until a certain time or event.

I say that because if they knew, or had known, the cat would have been out of the bag long ago, at least to them.

So then there's what the person would have been exposed to, that would relate to the above topics, but wouldn't have been enough to tip them off to who they really were supposed to end up being.

Could have been an introduction to GLP, for example, where all the information would be, hidden in plain sight, and only recognizable to that one person.

In any case, I think there were events that would have happened for this individual, that would have been part of a preparation, but not a revealing, and then there would have been an event/series of events that would start to reveal to this person who he was, which would probably be the more difficult part of the process.

There could be habits and attachments somebody somewhere could be waiting for him to drop, maybe he's a couch-potato like Michael said.

I think we can safely infer some things, like how the process would happen, by logic, and then some things, like how long, when, where, etc, would be debatable at best until an identity is narrowed down, and the story is accepted by the peanut gallery, which he's probably sitting in.

100% agree with what you said, !saac.

Also, I have said the learning must be a crash course in study of unbelievable proportions.

Last Edited by Saptaparna on 11/05/2012 12:09 PM

I would wager it's like trying to fight off a mental illness, and the only way to avoid coping with facing reality would be to remain in seclusion, which is where I think a person like that would be right now.

Probably scared shitless on the inside, but nonchalant on the exterior.

!saac, I've told you this before, I agree with almost all of your info on this topic, if not all.

MkUltra . The persons every move being watched.Notice how I say person because everyone is reffering a nobody to "him"

"the fool"

This is all you need to know.
I you don´t understand this from the heart, all the talk isn´t worth much.
Go ahead and fight who is right and who not. ;)