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So Mr Darwin, how do you suppose plants avoided extinction in the million years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design photosynthesis?

 
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So Mr Darwin, how do you suppose plants avoided extinction in the million years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design photosynthesis?

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Re: So Mr Darwin, how do you suppose plants avoided extinction in the million years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design photosynthesis?

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Mr Darwin, how long do you think mammals could live waiting for the evolution thingy to create metabolism?
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that's how Darwin looked before they set him free to write his book.
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Re: So Mr Darwin, how do you suppose plants avoided extinction in the million years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design photosynthesis?
It took billions not millions, and the keyword is Cyanobacteria
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It took billions not millions, and the keyword is Cyanobacteria
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Oh... so plants lived billions of years unable to synthesize proteins, and didn't starve out?
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It took billions not millions, and the keyword is Cyanobacteria
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Oh... so plants lived billions of years unable to synthesize proteins, and didn't starve out?
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they probably got their energy needs through some other source, until a mutation that allowed some plants to take in sunlight as well. over time, photosynthesis became so effective that the plants bred out the need for the other source
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It took billions not millions, and the keyword is Cyanobacteria
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Oh... so plants lived billions of years unable to synthesize proteins, and didn't starve out?
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they probably got their energy needs through some other source, until a mutation that allowed some plants to take in sunlight as well. over time, photosynthesis became so effective that the plants bred out the need for the other source
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Re: So Mr Darwin, how do you suppose plants avoided extinction in the million years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design photosynthesis?
some plants are meat eaters. ex. venus flytrap.
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Re: So Mr Darwin, how do you suppose plants avoided extinction in the million years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design photosynthesis?
It took billions not millions, and the keyword is Cyanobacteria
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Oh... so plants lived billions of years unable to synthesize proteins, and didn't starve out?
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they probably got their energy needs through some other source, until a mutation that allowed some plants to take in sunlight as well. over time, photosynthesis became so effective that the plants bred out the need for the other source
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Their source of energy is sunlight. They can adjust how much light enters to prevent UV damage to their cells. Mutation would cause this to malfunction and they would burn up.
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Re: So Mr Darwin, how do you suppose plants avoided extinction in the million years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design photosynthesis?
Maybe in the beginning, warmth was enough. It seems to make a seed sprout from under the soil.
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Re: So Mr Darwin, how do you suppose plants avoided extinction in the million years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design photosynthesis?
Any other notion other than intelligent design takes a whole lot more faith to believe in....so much easier and well, intelligent to believe there is a God who created everything we are and all of the world. It always boils down to the fact that they are afraid that if there is a God they may be held accountable to Him one day, which they will. Then they are forced to discount the obvious, not a smart choice.
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Evolution of these things is possible, in fact it probably happened. But the miracle of what set these things in motion lies solely in God's hands.
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Re: So Mr Darwin, how do you suppose plants avoided extinction in the million years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design photosynthesis?
It took billions not millions, and the keyword is Cyanobacteria
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Oh... so plants lived billions of years unable to synthesize proteins, and didn't starve out?
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they probably got their energy needs through some other source, until a mutation that allowed some plants to take in sunlight as well. over time, photosynthesis became so effective that the plants bred out the need for the other source
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i wasn't alive billions of years ago, so i don't have the pleasure of knowing for sure, but atleast im wiling to admit i don't know everything unlike OP. but it makes more sense than an all-powerful being creating everything just for the fuck of it, then placing everything in a hostile environment with endless suffering and struggle, where even the best end result is still death. why'd he even bother unless he is an asshole?
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Re: So Mr Darwin, how do you suppose plants avoided extinction in the million years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design photosynthesis?
Maybe the plants used to eat shit?
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OP, why are you so infatuated with being right about something ?
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Oh good lord after a few weeks of not seeing your ignorantly retarded posts one pops up again, I cannot help but feel a sense of pity for you.
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Re: So Mr Darwin, how do you suppose plants avoided extinction in the million years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design photosynthesis?
You did it! We all believe in God now. All your hard work has paid off. Now you don't need to post creationist threads anymore. Again, congratulations and goodbye.
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Re: So Mr Darwin, how do you suppose plants avoided extinction in the million years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design photosynthesis?
Why dont you google "evolution of photosynthesis"... Oh yea, thats right. You dont want to learn shit and then claim that it takes more faith to believe in bioloigy 101 than it doese to believe in a sky wizard creating the earth in 7 days. Get fuckin real. At least try to sound SOMEWHAT intelligent in your propaganda.
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OP, why are you so infatuated with being right about something ?
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"For the Scripture says: “None that rests his faith on him will be disappointed.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for there is the same Lord over all, who is rich to all those calling upon him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.” 14 However, how will they call on him in whom they have not put faith? How, in turn, will they put faith in him of whom they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach? 15 How, in turn, will they preach unless they have been sent forth?" Ro10:11
... "Let he has has knowledge share with those who have not" Dgn:123
chuckle
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OP, why are you so infatuated with being right about something ?
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"For the Scripture says: “None that rests his faith on him will be disappointed.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for there is the same Lord over all, who is rich to all those calling upon him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.” 14 However, how will they call on him in whom they have not put faith? How, in turn, will they put faith in him of whom they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach? 15 How, in turn, will they preach unless they have been sent forth?" Ro10:11
... "Let he has has knowledge share with those who have not" Dgn:123
chuckle
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Can you tell me where in the bible it says to preach about creationism Vs evolution ?
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OP, why are you so infatuated with being right about something ?
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"For the Scripture says: “None that rests his faith on him will be disappointed.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for there is the same Lord over all, who is rich to all those calling upon him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.” 14 However, how will they call on him in whom they have not put faith? How, in turn, will they put faith in him of whom they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach? 15 How, in turn, will they preach unless they have been sent forth?" Ro10:11
... "Let he has has knowledge share with those who have not" Dgn:123
chuckle
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Can you tell me where in the bible it says to preach about creationism Vs evolution ?
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Prior to Darwin's pinnacle of non-scientific stupidity, no one was simple enough to think anything formed by accident,
"For God’s wrath is being revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who are suppressing the truth in an unrighteous way, 19 because what may be known about God is manifest among them, for God made it manifest to them. 20 For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable; 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasonings and their unintelligent heart became darkened. 22 Although asserting they were wise, they became foolish 23 and turned the glory of the incorruptible God into something like the image of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed creatures and creeping things.' Ro1:18
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OP, why are you so infatuated with being right about something ?
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"For the Scripture says: “None that rests his faith on him will be disappointed.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for there is the same Lord over all, who is rich to all those calling upon him. 13 For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.” 14 However, how will they call on him in whom they have not put faith? How, in turn, will they put faith in him of whom they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach? 15 How, in turn, will they preach unless they have been sent forth?" Ro10:11
... "Let he has has knowledge share with those who have not" Dgn:123
chuckle
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Can you tell me where in the bible it says to preach about creationism Vs evolution ?
 Quoting: !saac

Prior to Darwin's pinnacle of non-scientific stupidity, no one was simple enough to think anything formed by accident,
"For God’s wrath is being revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who are suppressing the truth in an unrighteous way, 19 because what may be known about God is manifest among them, for God made it manifest to them. 20 For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable; 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasonings and their unintelligent heart became darkened. 22 Although asserting they were wise, they became foolish 23 and turned the glory of the incorruptible God into something like the image of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed creatures and creeping things.' Ro1:18
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Ok, but the theory of evolution didn't exist when that was written.
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Re: So Mr Darwin, how do you suppose plants avoided extinction in the million years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design photosynthesis?
I am notg Mr. Darwin, but the answer to your question is obvious to anyone with a modicum of decent education. The answer is chemosynthesis.

You might know such simple facts already if you hadn't wasted so much time studying holy roller superstitions.
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Can you tell me where in the bible it says to preach about creationism Vs evolution ?
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Prior to Darwin's pinnacle of non-scientific stupidity, no one was simple enough to think anything formed by accident,

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You mean, no one was SMART enough to think anything formed by natural movement...thus a need for man to create something they had no proof of.
At least we have proof of evolution and how that continues to work today.

But then again....that would have you confront your biggest fears and those fears are neatly and tidily kept raging in the cage within your mind and soul, bleeding and feeding the fear energy outward.

People were so wrapped up in fear that they had to assign contexts that they could understand in their usually tribal and extremely primitive ways.
It was always about fear and trying to understand things in ways they could comprehend to appease that fear.

It still is, and you are a prime example of that still happening.

Read Karen Armstrong's book, A History of God, if you aren't too afraid to read it. I suspect you are too afraid but some reading it will not be too afraid and will welcome the moment to unlock the shackles of their mind and soul.

She reviews the human "evolution" of God in a way that is very non-threatening to those like yourself who are rabid believers.


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Why don't you take this daft question to a biology forum and ask the experts?.
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Prior to Darwin's pinnacle of non-scientific stupidity, no one was simple enough to think anything formed by accident,

 Quoting: DGN



You mean, no one was SMART enough to think anything formed by natural movement...thus a need for man to create something they had no proof of.
At least we have proof of evolution and how that continues to work today.

But then again....that would have you confront your biggest fears and those fears are neatly and tidily kept raging in the cage within your mind and soul, bleeding and feeding the fear energy outward.

People were so wrapped up in fear that they had to assign contexts that they could understand in their usually tribal and extremely primitive ways.
It was always about fear and trying to understand things in ways they could comprehend to appease that fear.

It still is, and you are a prime example of that still happening.

Read Karen Armstrong's book, A History of God, if you aren't too afraid to read it. I suspect you are too afraid but some reading it will not be too afraid and will welcome the moment to unlock the shackles of their mind and soul.

She reviews the human "evolution" of God in a way that is very non-threatening to those like yourself who are rabid believers.


[link to www.abebooks.com]
 Quoting: !saac

QUOTE:
"You mean, no one was SMART enough to think anything formed by natural movement"
Left to natural movement, everything eventually decays, rusts, decomposes. Nothing self assembles. Where ever have you been?

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Re: So Mr Darwin, how do you suppose plants avoided extinction in the million years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design photosynthesis?
No way the plants developed receptors for the sun later. All things are given life by the sun, for anything to 'evolve' without evolving in direct proportion to the energy it is receiving from the sun would just not make sense.
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Re: So Mr Darwin, how do you suppose plants avoided extinction in the million years it took evolution to NON-intelligently design photosynthesis?
No way the plants developed receptors for the sun later. All things are given life by the sun, for anything to 'evolve' without evolving in direct proportion to the energy it is receiving from the sun would just not make sense.
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Right. Doesn't the term 'evolve' in itself infer intelligent re-design?





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