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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17033550 United States 11/03/2012 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im calling Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25306942 Just like the gulf oil spill had us donr for by the end of the summer. Im these are all just plausible theories at best. Well I have been colleccting the facts for 3 days now so follow the link to the thread to get the facts as they have onfolded rather then guess at the Doom. It is a concerning situation though. You will find likes to Real time Marine Maps as well as Railroad status. At the moment...well just go to the thread. By page 3 or so we started to figure things out. I am updating fairly often. Thread: Supply Chain Disruptions from Sandy-PLEASE REPORT- NY, NJ, CT, PA, (Page 3) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17033550 United States 11/03/2012 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im calling Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25306942 Just like the gulf oil spill had us donr for by the end of the summer. Im these are all just plausible theories at best. Well I have been colleccting the facts for 3 days now so follow the link to the thread to get the facts as they have onfolded rather then guess at the Doom. It is a concerning situation though. You will find likes to Real time Marine Maps as well as Railroad status. At the moment...well just go to the thread. By page 3 or so we started to figure things out. I am updating fairly often. Thread: Supply Chain Disruptions from Sandy-PLEASE REPORT- NY, NJ, CT, PA, (Page 3) We also have a few eyes from a birds eye view of NY Harbor from the Brooklyn side of things and a few others from the area giving their observations on truck movements, or lack thereof... There are at least two diesel spills. Linden, NJ and Brooklyn preventing ships from docking... |
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darkwolf007 User ID: 3974719 United States 11/03/2012 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks, OP, for your valuable words and insights. I just wish I had the money to have already get ready for this insane shit that's ALREADY on our doorsteps. Hopefully this won't turn into another Katrina-ized New Orleans so fast or preferrably at all. Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
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The Norwalk Avenger User ID: 19536284 United States 11/03/2012 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't live anywhere near the path of Hurricane Sandy? Figure you dodged The Bullet? Maybe, but most likely not. Sandy has taken out key and vital infrastructure especially New Jersey shipping ports, trucking terminals and refining infrastructure. Not like the tonnage and container cargoes processed there will easily be diverted elsewhere on the Atlantic Seaboard. What's the nautical steaming distance to New Orleans or Houston? About 2,000 miles? Not much left of the Port of Baltimore. No real reason to ship goods to Boston if they need to go to the MidWest or other interior deployment warehouses. How much American capacity to ship to Europe is now offline? Quoting: Lester 26898212 There are many, many aspects of daily life which Sandy has interrupted and ground to ruin which have to be rebuilt or entirely replaced. Seawater, saltwater corrodes and destroys electrical equipment; even that built super-tough. Perhaps the electricity distribution assets that have been under tidal surge waters can be dried out and made to function in the shortrun, but doubtful they can be relied upon unless fully rebuilt. Funny thing about the American Business Plan; Just In Time don't apply only to inventory distribution and management. There are no electrical distribution equipment manufacturers with huge warehouses full of ready to load on truck substations and large current handling gear. These are made to order. Nobody expected or anticipated a 14' seawater tidal surge that would submerge hundreds or maybe thousands of pieces of vital infrastructure electrical gear. There is no way to re-route around this. There is no ready to go solution. There is only place orders and wait for the gear to be built. Where is the gear built? China? Mexico? Wherever the manufacturers decided to relocate after The Federal Govt paid them money to move. Maybe they maxed out their payday and relocated under The Caribbean Basin Initiative? Fruit Of The Loom got $10,000 cash payment from Govt for every job they relocated under CBI... Essentially, in my estimation, America has just taken a double-tap centermass and this may be the Death Knell our leaders seemingly have aspired to enable. Look at how The Federal Govt has concertedly acted to kill America since the mid-70s. Pretty hard to believe where we are today happened by accident. Not talking about the storm aftermouth. America is living in The Aftermath Of Its Greatness... Essentially, The Federales put U.S. out of business in so many ways... No more mining, no more timbering, no more manufacturing. Agriculture on small farm level discouraged in every way possible. GMO and other engineered foods allowed and encouraged, all with deadly effects on those eating them, the farmland used to grow them, and farmers using them... Look at the Ruin Dept of Treasury, federal reserve bank system, and WallStreet & Banking have put upon U.S. Since 2008, about $40 Trillion essentially given to Big Banks and firms like General Electric and General Motors' financing divisions once they declared they were "banks". In August 2009, Wall Street Journal published article by Laurence Kotlikoff, tenured prof of Economics at Boston Univ where he disclosed by his estimations that the Total Federal Debt and Unfunded Liabilities of The USA stood at $207 Trillion not the $12 T then admitted as "national debt".... Our elected officials at every level owe U.S. a fiduciary duty... Like physicians who once took Hypocratic Oath "first, do no harm"... None of this shit has been dumped on U.S. by accident or mere happenstance. There are several million survival sagas being played-out right now in and around the NYC Tri-State region. Being able to stay WARM, DRY, HYDRATED, FED, & CAPABLE OF SELF-DEFENSE has never been more critical for these people. Hope you have read the handwriting on the wall: If you can't provide for your own daily needs with some assurance of self-sufficiency, or have the gear and supplies to enable your time to assimilate the knowledge and abilities to do so, you and those who depend on you face a very tenuous situation. The discussion above about how America has been scuttled deliberately is just a few knots on the Gulliver. How did America's premier farming district, California's Central Valley get sacrificed for the benefit of a non-indigenous species of small fish in the Sacramento River? How is America's Coal Industry being hung-out to dry, along with consumer access to environmentally friendly cheap electricity and heating sources? The list goes on and on... Saw something about FEMA having ordered 12M gals of unleaded and 10M gals of diesel fuel this week.... Undoubtedly the refiners will fill their contracts first and this is just another "accident" or bit of "bad planning" which will impair persons all over Eastern Seaboard travel and mobility plans.... Best have all your fuel needs met and get moving NOW if you plan to relocate... Shit is about to get very real for tens of millions of Americans. All Americans are going to see shortages of all sorts as supply and demand attributable to Sandy impacts all building materials, fuels, electric gear, food, drinking water, trucking deliveries and likely even mail. I urge all readers not to get caught up in the theatrics of the political season, or spend valuable time in pursuits not designed to enable you to live more self-sufficiently. If you don't have gardening equipment, seed stocks, emergency gear and supplies of all types; NOW IS The Time To Take Action! More to come on what you may want to consider on all sorts of personal levels in the days ahead as my time becomes more available God Bless All Americans and we ask In Jesus' Name All HIS Grace and Mercies... For more articles on Survivalism topics visit: lesteronsurvival.blogspot.com I can only add that what is being played out in America is itself, only a part of the whole show. Other parts of the world are in various different stages and types of turmoil. One need only 'zoom out' one or two degrees to see something large and permanent on the horizon. This was an excellent post. -N- Reclaim the Present from Apathy and Despair Care without Hope, Hope without Care |
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roadrunnerray User ID: 1352816 United States 11/03/2012 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't live anywhere near the path of Hurricane Sandy? Figure you dodged The Bullet? Maybe, but most likely not. Sandy has taken out key and vital infrastructure especially New Jersey shipping ports, trucking terminals and refining infrastructure. Not like the tonnage and container cargoes processed there will easily be diverted elsewhere on the Atlantic Seaboard. What's the nautical steaming distance to New Orleans or Houston? About 2,000 miles? Not much left of the Port of Baltimore. No real reason to ship goods to Boston if they need to go to the MidWest or other interior deployment warehouses. How much American capacity to ship to Europe is now offline? Quoting: Lester 26898212 There are many, many aspects of daily life which Sandy has interrupted and ground to ruin which have to be rebuilt or entirely replaced. Seawater, saltwater corrodes and destroys electrical equipment; even that built super-tough. Perhaps the electricity distribution assets that have been under tidal surge waters can be dried out and made to function in the shortrun, but doubtful they can be relied upon unless fully rebuilt. Funny thing about the American Business Plan; Just In Time don't apply only to inventory distribution and management. There are no electrical distribution equipment manufacturers with huge warehouses full of ready to load on truck substations and large current handling gear. These are made to order. Nobody expected or anticipated a 14' seawater tidal surge that would submerge hundreds or maybe thousands of pieces of vital infrastructure electrical gear. There is no way to re-route around this. There is no ready to go solution. There is only place orders and wait for the gear to be built. Where is the gear built? China? Mexico? Wherever the manufacturers decided to relocate after The Federal Govt paid them money to move. Maybe they maxed out their payday and relocated under The Caribbean Basin Initiative? Fruit Of The Loom got $10,000 cash payment from Govt for every job they relocated under CBI... Essentially, in my estimation, America has just taken a double-tap centermass and this may be the Death Knell our leaders seemingly have aspired to enable. Look at how The Federal Govt has concertedly acted to kill America since the mid-70s. Pretty hard to believe where we are today happened by accident. Not talking about the storm aftermouth. America is living in The Aftermath Of Its Greatness... Essentially, The Federales put U.S. out of business in so many ways... No more mining, no more timbering, no more manufacturing. Agriculture on small farm level discouraged in every way possible. GMO and other engineered foods allowed and encouraged, all with deadly effects on those eating them, the farmland used to grow them, and farmers using them... Look at the Ruin Dept of Treasury, federal reserve bank system, and WallStreet & Banking have put upon U.S. Since 2008, about $40 Trillion essentially given to Big Banks and firms like General Electric and General Motors' financing divisions once they declared they were "banks". In August 2009, Wall Street Journal published article by Laurence Kotlikoff, tenured prof of Economics at Boston Univ where he disclosed by his estimations that the Total Federal Debt and Unfunded Liabilities of The USA stood at $207 Trillion not the $12 T then admitted as "national debt".... Our elected officials at every level owe U.S. a fiduciary duty... Like physicians who once took Hypocratic Oath "first, do no harm"... None of this shit has been dumped on U.S. by accident or mere happenstance. There are several million survival sagas being played-out right now in and around the NYC Tri-State region. Being able to stay WARM, DRY, HYDRATED, FED, & CAPABLE OF SELF-DEFENSE has never been more critical for these people. Hope you have read the handwriting on the wall: If you can't provide for your own daily needs with some assurance of self-sufficiency, or have the gear and supplies to enable your time to assimilate the knowledge and abilities to do so, you and those who depend on you face a very tenuous situation. The discussion above about how America has been scuttled deliberately is just a few knots on the Gulliver. How did America's premier farming district, California's Central Valley get sacrificed for the benefit of a non-indigenous species of small fish in the Sacramento River? How is America's Coal Industry being hung-out to dry, along with consumer access to environmentally friendly cheap electricity and heating sources? The list goes on and on... Saw something about FEMA having ordered 12M gals of unleaded and 10M gals of diesel fuel this week.... Undoubtedly the refiners will fill their contracts first and this is just another "accident" or bit of "bad planning" which will impair persons all over Eastern Seaboard travel and mobility plans.... Best have all your fuel needs met and get moving NOW if you plan to relocate... Shit is about to get very real for tens of millions of Americans. All Americans are going to see shortages of all sorts as supply and demand attributable to Sandy impacts all building materials, fuels, electric gear, food, drinking water, trucking deliveries and likely even mail. I urge all readers not to get caught up in the theatrics of the political season, or spend valuable time in pursuits not designed to enable you to live more self-sufficiently. If you don't have gardening equipment, seed stocks, emergency gear and supplies of all types; NOW IS The Time To Take Action! More to come on what you may want to consider on all sorts of personal levels in the days ahead as my time becomes more available God Bless All Americans and we ask In Jesus' Name All HIS Grace and Mercies... For more articles on Survivalism topics visit: lesteronsurvival.blogspot.com Thanks for your insightful thoughts Lester!....... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25306942 United States 11/03/2012 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im calling Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25306942 Just like the gulf oil spill had us donr for by the end of the summer. Im these are all just plausible theories at best. Well I have been colleccting the facts for 3 days now so follow the link to the thread to get the facts as they have onfolded rather then guess at the Doom. It is a concerning situation though. You will find likes to Real time Marine Maps as well as Railroad status. At the moment...well just go to the thread. By page 3 or so we started to figure things out. I am updating fairly often. Thread: Supply Chain Disruptions from Sandy-PLEASE REPORT- NY, NJ, CT, PA, (Page 3) We also have a few eyes from a birds eye view of NY Harbor from the Brooklyn side of things and a few others from the area giving their observations on truck movements, or lack thereof... There are at least two diesel spills. Linden, NJ and Brooklyn preventing ships from docking... I will...and thanks for taking the time to post this info |
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cmoG530 User ID: 26524753 United States 11/03/2012 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PLEASE don't curse and then talk about the Lord. Shouldn't be cursing anyway, but that's even worse. 1 Timothy 3:16 KJV And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. Isaiah 9:6 KJV For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Mark 16:16 KJV He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Acts 2:38 KJV Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Romans 8:6-9 KJV 6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. Matthew 15:8-9 KJV 8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Acts 5:29 KJV Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men. "The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous |
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Lester (OP) User ID: 26898212 United States 11/03/2012 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This article was posted first at my blog, lesteronsurvival.blogspot.com Okay to repost it, but please include a link. Most of my other Survivalist-oriented posts have been consolidated there. The blog is a no-nonsense overview of the basics with some specifics that my family has put into practice since 1988. Really need to pay attention to your situation Right Now! Good time to do a visual inspection of the food you have on hand, the warm clothing and bedding. Be sure your footwear is in good shape. I have a pair of Raichle leather boots bought in 1990 that need Snowseal treatment. 8yrs ago was wearing these with good wool socks and polypropylene expedition weight long-underwear when had to spend 3hrs in a frozen swamp freeing a 6x6 ATV from being high-centered. Take care of your gear, it will take care of you... Wife tells me the politicos are hemming/hawing about funding our recovery from this disaster... We got Trillions for banks, bailouts for GM & Chrysler, GE and all the Gambling Houses on Wall St, not to mention foreign wars and Billions for Pakistan and Egypt; just not a goddam dime for US Americans footing the fucking bill the politicos use to LOOT U.S... You are on your own. Better damn well understand and marshall all your assets to secure your preservation. Dunno about Canadian ports. Halifax? Nova Scotia? Give me a break! May as well stage cargo in Iceland... Hows the Port of New Orleans these days? How's the flow on the Mississippi River? Probably doing all they can in NOLA. For sure Houston is busy as hell. Gonna send stuff from Europe to Miami? Baltimore was a vital port at one time. Mostly gone except for handling some container cargo. America has put everything it could onto a JIT sort of footing. There is no redundancy in the system for problems. All streamlined to pursue maximum profit, but we are fucked because there is no backup facility. Same way with the electrical distribution gear and grid. Heard that NJ has bigtime problems with their High Voltage Transmission Lines. Flooding, erosion, toppling, gonna have to be rebuilt. There is no reportage. The situation is completely dire. How're them nuclear plants doing? The famous trouble-free designs that worked so well in Fukushima Prefecture... How about landfills? How many billion tons of crap is going to be headed for landfills? Tons of wet carpet, drywall that ain't dry anymore, interior junk that will begin to mold? The insurers got no money to pay, even those who got flood insurance. All the capital reserves tied up in derivatives, gambling. Win some lose some; mostly they're losing. Now there's this.... There hasn't been a solvent insurer since 9/11. All finance has been about gambling and derivatives. Looting policyholders with executives as complicit as the political higherups. This is The End Of Our Road. Hows your Electronic Funds Transfers working out this month? How many will lose benefits, if they're ever paid again, because they've lost their home or residence? Maybe there's qualifiers that prevent funding EBT cards when residence is unknown? About 50,000,000 Americans on foodstamps. Probably 4x that number deriving some benefit from foodstamps in a given month. More to come... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2178540 Ireland 11/03/2012 10:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This article was posted first at my blog, lesteronsurvival.blogspot.com Okay to repost it, but please include a link. Most of my other Survivalist-oriented posts have been consolidated there. Quoting: Lester 26898212 The blog is a no-nonsense overview of the basics with some specifics that my family has put into practice since 1988. Really need to pay attention to your situation Right Now! Good time to do a visual inspection of the food you have on hand, the warm clothing and bedding. Be sure your footwear is in good shape. I have a pair of Raichle leather boots bought in 1990 that need Snowseal treatment. 8yrs ago was wearing these with good wool socks and polypropylene expedition weight long-underwear when had to spend 3hrs in a frozen swamp freeing a 6x6 ATV from being high-centered. Take care of your gear, it will take care of you... Wife tells me the politicos are hemming/hawing about funding our recovery from this disaster... We got Trillions for banks, bailouts for GM & Chrysler, GE and all the Gambling Houses on Wall St, not to mention foreign wars and Billions for Pakistan and Egypt; just not a goddam dime for US Americans footing the fucking bill the politicos use to LOOT U.S... You are on your own. Better damn well understand and marshall all your assets to secure your preservation. Dunno about Canadian ports. Halifax? Nova Scotia? Give me a break! May as well stage cargo in Iceland... Hows the Port of New Orleans these days? How's the flow on the Mississippi River? Probably doing all they can in NOLA. For sure Houston is busy as hell. Gonna send stuff from Europe to Miami? Baltimore was a vital port at one time. Mostly gone except for handling some container cargo. America has put everything it could onto a JIT sort of footing. There is no redundancy in the system for problems. All streamlined to pursue maximum profit, but we are fucked because there is no backup facility. Same way with the electrical distribution gear and grid. Heard that NJ has bigtime problems with their High Voltage Transmission Lines. Flooding, erosion, toppling, gonna have to be rebuilt. There is no reportage. The situation is completely dire. How're them nuclear plants doing? The famous trouble-free designs that worked so well in Fukushima Prefecture... How about landfills? How many billion tons of crap is going to be headed for landfills? Tons of wet carpet, drywall that ain't dry anymore, interior junk that will begin to mold? The insurers got no money to pay, even those who got flood insurance. All the capital reserves tied up in derivatives, gambling. Win some lose some; mostly they're losing. Now there's this.... There hasn't been a solvent insurer since 9/11. All finance has been about gambling and derivatives. Looting policyholders with executives as complicit as the political higherups. This is The End Of Our Road. Hows your Electronic Funds Transfers working out this month? How many will lose benefits, if they're ever paid again, because they've lost their home or residence? Maybe there's qualifiers that prevent funding EBT cards when residence is unknown? About 50,000,000 Americans on foodstamps. Probably 4x that number deriving some benefit from foodstamps in a given month. More to come... Gratitude to all who help the person next to them. |
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Jaws User ID: 11094912 United States 11/03/2012 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry to say but one mans misfortune is another mans opportunity. When the 3 florida storms of 2004 tore tens of thousands of roofs to shreds , roofers and contractors were very happy! Once people start replacing all thier lost items with insurance money, the economy will boom....this doom isnt what it seems, people are freaking out over some minor short term inconviences for most, not including those who lost life or home...but freaking out because of no power for a week, good lord what a joke! Don't mess with imperfection |