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Discernment Comes With Maturity And Experience

 
Rising Son
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It can be said that being able to tell fact from fiction, value from insignificance, and good from evil is a rarity, if even possible. Truth is often relative to the one perceiving it, and as a result, differing perceptions lead to differing interpretations, which inevitably leads to conflict.

However, when conflict is regarded as a simple misunderstanding of another's perception, or refusal to contemplate a differing perspective, then a resolution to that conflict is not beyond our grasp. Humility is necessary to understand a differing perspective, and without it, you stop learning, and most likely stop living (both literally and figuratively).

If we can learn to approach each other with an open mind and clear intentions, then our ability to understand each other and all that is around us becomes much easier. We learn to set aside our bias and judgment, and we simply feel. That is a state of mind and point of existence we all should desire to achieve.
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

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You sound full of yourself which means you're full of shit.
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It can be said that being able to tell fact from fiction, value from insignificance, and good from evil is a rarity, if even possible. Truth is often relative to the one perceiving it, and as a result, differing perceptions lead to differing interpretations, which inevitably leads to conflict.

However, when conflict is regarded as a simple misunderstanding of another's perception, or refusal to contemplate a differing perspective, then a resolution to that conflict is not beyond our grasp. Humility is necessary to understand a differing perspective, and without it, you stop learning, and most likely stop living (both literally and figuratively).

If we can learn to approach each other with an open mind and clear intentions, then our ability to understand each other and all that is around us becomes much easier. We learn to set aside our bias and judgment, and we simply feel. That is a state of mind and point of existence we all should desire to achieve.
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Thank you hf
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You sound full of yourself which means you're full of shit.
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Might I suggest you not make assumptions? You'll live longer anyway.
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

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It can be said that being able to tell fact from fiction, value from insignificance, and good from evil is a rarity, if even possible. Truth is often relative to the one perceiving it, and as a result, differing perceptions lead to differing interpretations, which inevitably leads to conflict.

However, when conflict is regarded as a simple misunderstanding of another's perception, or refusal to contemplate a differing perspective, then a resolution to that conflict is not beyond our grasp. Humility is necessary to understand a differing perspective, and without it, you stop learning, and most likely stop living (both literally and figuratively).

If we can learn to approach each other with an open mind and clear intentions, then our ability to understand each other and all that is around us becomes much easier. We learn to set aside our bias and judgment, and we simply feel. That is a state of mind and point of existence we all should desire to achieve.
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Thank you hf
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hf
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

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"Humility is necessary to understand a differing perspective, and without it, you stop learning, and most likely stop living ..."

Humility is one of the things the ego cannot find. Those who opposed Jesus had none!
John 11:35 Jesus wept.

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"Humility is necessary to understand a differing perspective, and without it, you stop learning, and most likely stop living ..."

Humility is one of the things the ego cannot find. Those who opposed Jesus had none!
 Quoting: Once4All


When we realize we are more than our ego, we see that ego is meaningless and destructive. I am reminded of the story of Jesus washing the feet of His disciples.
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

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Thanks for the karma pin!

hf
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

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"Humility is necessary to understand a differing perspective, and without it, you stop learning, and most likely stop living ..."

Humility is one of the things the ego cannot find. Those who opposed Jesus had none!
 Quoting: Once4All


When we realize we are more than our ego, we see that ego is meaningless and destructive. I am reminded of the story of Jesus washing the feet of His disciples.
 Quoting: Rising Son


Yes, i think that took great humility to do that. I've been reading the Gospel according to Mark again. Several of his miracle stories show people who have completly humbled themselves before God.
John 11:35 Jesus wept.

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Jesus Christ will return as King of all kings and Lord of all lords. hf
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"Humility is necessary to understand a differing perspective, and without it, you stop learning, and most likely stop living ..."

Humility is one of the things the ego cannot find. Those who opposed Jesus had none!
 Quoting: Once4All


When we realize we are more than our ego, we see that ego is meaningless and destructive. I am reminded of the story of Jesus washing the feet of His disciples.
 Quoting: Rising Son


Yes, i think that took great humility to do that. I've been reading the Gospel according to Mark again. Several of his miracle stories show people who have completly humbled themselves before God.
 Quoting: Once4All


I believe that is a common characteristic throughout the New Testament, and possibly one of the most valuable lessons taught by Jesus.
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

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"Humility is necessary to understand a differing perspective, and without it, you stop learning, and most likely stop living ..."

Humility is one of the things the ego cannot find. Those who opposed Jesus had none!
 Quoting: Once4All


When we realize we are more than our ego, we see that ego is meaningless and destructive. I am reminded of the story of Jesus washing the feet of His disciples.
 Quoting: Rising Son


What I'm sure you will refuse to believe is that people can have humility without believing in Jesus.
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Just what I needed, thanks for the timely reminder OP.

The message left two thousand years ago qualifies the subject title. We, as a global society, are on the precipice of maturity. We had experienced two millenia of ignorance and intolerance and are about to come into realization of the message of unconditional love, the basis of the Golden era, the shift to evolutionary light speed.
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"Humility is necessary to understand a differing perspective, and without it, you stop learning, and most likely stop living ..."

Humility is one of the things the ego cannot find. Those who opposed Jesus had none!
 Quoting: Once4All


When we realize we are more than our ego, we see that ego is meaningless and destructive. I am reminded of the story of Jesus washing the feet of His disciples.
 Quoting: Rising Son


What I'm sure you will refuse to believe is that people can have humility without believing in Jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1082682


Actually, I do not reject that notion. However, if someone truly walks in humility, when they hear The Truth they should accept it.
John 11:35 Jesus wept.

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Have you given good points today?

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well said OP
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It can be said that being able to tell fact from fiction, value from insignificance, and good from evil is a rarity, if even possible. Truth is often relative to the one perceiving it, and as a result, differing perceptions lead to differing interpretations, which inevitably leads to conflict.

However, when conflict is regarded as a simple misunderstanding of another's perception, or refusal to contemplate a differing perspective, then a resolution to that conflict is not beyond our grasp. Humility is necessary to understand a differing perspective, and without it, you stop learning, and most likely stop living (both literally and figuratively).

If we can learn to approach each other with an open mind and clear intentions, then our ability to understand each other and all that is around us becomes much easier. We learn to set aside our bias and judgment, and we simply feel. That is a state of mind and point of existence we all should desire to achieve.
 Quoting: Rising Son


It can be said that being able to tell fact from fiction, value from insignificance, and good from evil is a rarity.......................um yes - that is what comes with maturity and discernment.



If we can learn to approach each other with an open mind and clear intentions, then our ability to understand each other and all that is around us becomes much easier.

Well fine if you are discussing a matter of civil policy i suppose, but when the 'other' has no intention of being open minded, but is fixated upon subjugating you, as in say Islam or Communism for instance - your open mindedness and tolerance is simply a weakness that will be mercilessly exploited by a predatory mind.

That is why you need discernment to know when something is evil and needs to be fought tooth and nail.
Length of days is in her right hand; and in her left hand riches and honour. Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace.
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"Humility is necessary to understand a differing perspective, and without it, you stop learning, and most likely stop living ..."

Humility is one of the things the ego cannot find. Those who opposed Jesus had none!
 Quoting: Once4All


When we realize we are more than our ego, we see that ego is meaningless and destructive. I am reminded of the story of Jesus washing the feet of His disciples.
 Quoting: Rising Son


What I'm sure you will refuse to believe is that people can have humility without believing in Jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1082682


Actually, I do not reject that notion. However, if someone truly walks in humility, when they hear The Truth they should accept it.
 Quoting: Once4All


No, because you're saying, The Truth = Jesus, and that is NOT an absolute truth.
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When we realize we are more than our ego, we see that ego is meaningless and destructive. I am reminded of the story of Jesus washing the feet of His disciples.
 Quoting: Rising Son


What I'm sure you will refuse to believe is that people can have humility without believing in Jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1082682


Actually, I do not reject that notion. However, if someone truly walks in humility, when they hear The Truth they should accept it.
 Quoting: Once4All


No, because you're saying, The Truth = Jesus, and that is NOT an absolute truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1082682


It does not matter what name you call the Truth - it proves Itself without our help. Only you and God know what is truly in your heart, others can only imagine or guess.
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

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Just what I needed, thanks for the timely reminder OP.

The message left two thousand years ago qualifies the subject title. We, as a global society, are on the precipice of maturity. We had experienced two millenia of ignorance and intolerance and are about to come into realization of the message of unconditional love, the basis of the Golden era, the shift to evolutionary light speed.
 Quoting: fortytwo


Thank you :-)
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It can be said that being able to tell fact from fiction, value from insignificance, and good from evil is a rarity, if even possible. Truth is often relative to the one perceiving it, and as a result, differing perceptions lead to differing interpretations, which inevitably leads to conflict.

However, when conflict is regarded as a simple misunderstanding of another's perception, or refusal to contemplate a differing perspective, then a resolution to that conflict is not beyond our grasp. Humility is necessary to understand a differing perspective, and without it, you stop learning, and most likely stop living (both literally and figuratively).

If we can learn to approach each other with an open mind and clear intentions, then our ability to understand each other and all that is around us becomes much easier. We learn to set aside our bias and judgment, and we simply feel. That is a state of mind and point of existence we all should desire to achieve.
 Quoting: Rising Son


It can be said that being able to tell fact from fiction, value from insignificance, and good from evil is a rarity.......................um yes - that is what comes with maturity and discernment.



If we can learn to approach each other with an open mind and clear intentions, then our ability to understand each other and all that is around us becomes much easier.

Well fine if you are discussing a matter of civil policy i suppose, but when the 'other' has no intention of being open minded, but is fixated upon subjugating you, as in say Islam or Communism for instance - your open mindedness and tolerance is simply a weakness that will be mercilessly exploited by a predatory mind.

That is why you need discernment to know when something is evil and needs to be fought tooth and nail.
 Quoting: Johnny Be Good


If you have been exploited, then you have allowed yourself to be exploited. Do not worry what troubles another, take pity on them. Help them with your example, not your judgment. If it is death by their hands that you fear, remember that our bodies are worth nothing - yet our souls are eternal in God.
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

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words that speak of the same point:

"However, the canon "By thy god" must be applied in life, practically on every step. During each conversation, when there is no unity of consciousnesses, our first duty is not to infuriate our companion by contradiction and censure of his convictions, but, starting with his best possibilities and considering the level of his consciousness, we should gradually and patiently broaden his horizon. Thus, speaking with a Moslem, you will not begin by praising Lord Buddha or demeaning Mohammed, but you will interchange with him all that is beautiful in his religion, and when opportunity arises, you will explain more deeply and broadly the meaning of some sayings of Mohammed that have entered the treasury of world wisdom. Thus you will also do in any other situations in life. You will not speak with an avid chauvinist against his country, but you will discover the best expressions and qualities of his nation, and you will point out to him new ways for developing its particular qualifications. Your breadth of understanding of national beliefs will smooth over the factor of chauvinism and, unexpectedly for him, his limited consciousness will begin to respond to the note of containment. And so, one should learn to carry on timely conversations without animosity but evaluating your companion with friendliness. Precisely, carry them on with PATIENCE and respect for your adversary, not permitting irritation, derision, and other unworthy means. And in each conversation one should know how to sacrifice one's self, one's knowledge, and not to boast of one's enlightenment. Remember that it is said in the Teaching that only a pompous ignorance loves to spread on window sills the dry, small twigs of its knowledge, but he who truly knows does not fear to snip off a piece of his knowledge when it can oppress and humiliate his companion. In this manner, the canon "By thy God" is merely a manifestation of selflessness, without which nothing can be achieved. It is a great error to liken it to non-resistance to evil. If you wish, accept this canon as a manifestation of mercy. And so, the canon "By thy God" is fully compatible precisely with resistance to evil. One can put a stop to evil by various means, and straight-knowledge should prompt the limits of possibilities when applying the given canon."
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If we can learn to approach each other with an open mind and clear intentions, then our ability to understand each other and all that is around us becomes much easier.

Well fine if you are discussing a matter of civil policy i suppose, but when the 'other' has no intention of being open minded, but is fixated upon subjugating you, as in say Islam or Communism for instance - your open mindedness and tolerance is simply a weakness that will be mercilessly exploited by a predatory mind.

That is why you need discernment to know when something is evil and needs to be fought tooth and nail.
 Quoting: Johnny Be Good


Agreed.rockon
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What everyone here is missing from the plight of this post is realizing the lack of perspective(maturity) and experience in the face of too much information..... means we're screwed.

The information programing people cannot really replace real experience.
So as more and more information is convincingly pushed, divisions deepen. And makes you easily distracted and redirected.

Prepare while you can people.
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What everyone here is missing from the plight of this post is realizing the lack of perspective(maturity) and experience in the face of too much information..... means we're screwed.

The information programing people cannot really replace real experience.
So as more and more information is convincingly pushed, divisions deepen. And makes you easily distracted and redirected.

Prepare while you can people.
 Quoting: Steve8511


but what if too much information will lead the rational/logical part of the brain to overload, and will have as an effect the activation of the heart/intuitive part of brain, which does not have any problem with too much information (because it is based upon parallel/pattern reasoning not serial/algorithmic)

in some people that is. you are right for a great majority, i'm afraid

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You sound full of yourself which means you're full of shit.
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Gotta agree with ya on that.



If there is no foundation of right or wrong, and truth (showing whats right or wrong) is anything you want to it be, then you have nothing.
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What everyone here is missing from the plight of this post is realizing the lack of perspective(maturity) and experience in the face of too much information..... means we're screwed.

The information programing people cannot really replace real experience.
So as more and more information is convincingly pushed, divisions deepen. And makes you easily distracted and redirected.

Prepare while you can people.
 Quoting: Steve8511


The quantity of information pushed does not correlate to quality. While there are many out there that desire to mislead others for their personal gain, maturity allows you to recognize the truth when you see it. When you no longer allow others to instill fear in your heart, then you begin to resist manipulation and deceit. It's not always easy, but the lies are often recycled from previous lies that you've already uncovered - you must recognize the lie when you see it, it often has motive for company.

Last Edited by Rising Son on 11/03/2012 11:55 PM
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

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The quantity of information pushed does not correlate to quality. While there are many out there that desire to mislead others for their personal gain, maturity allows you to recognize the truth when you see it. When you no longer allow others to instill fear in your heart, then you begin to resist manipulation and deceit. It's not always easy, but the lies are often recycled from previous lies that you've already uncovered - you must recognize the lie when you see it, it often has motive for company.
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true friend. but you are aware i hope that the vast majority of so called 'mature' individuals totally failed to even start upon this process of discernment.

mental discernment, according to the actual biological capacity of a human being, should be a skill as common as talking.

but due to lack of proper education, in this spirit, the situation is dire :)
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The quantity of information pushed does not correlate to quality. While there are many out there that desire to mislead others for their personal gain, maturity allows you to recognize the truth when you see it. When you no longer allow others to instill fear in your heart, then you begin to resist manipulation and deceit. It's not always easy, but the lies are often recycled from previous lies that you've already uncovered - you must recognize the lie when you see it, it often has motive for company.
 Quoting: Rising Son


true friend. but you are aware i hope that the vast majority of so called 'mature' individuals totally failed to even start upon this process of discernment.

mental discernment, according to the actual biological capacity of a human being, should be a skill as common as talking.

but due to lack of proper education, in this spirit, the situation is dire :)
 Quoting: andreidita


I agree, and as long as there is arrogance in the world, there will be ignorance along with it. I believe even without a proper education through traditional means, life will inevitably educate us. The question is how willing we are to learn :-)

Last Edited by Rising Son on 11/04/2012 12:21 AM
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

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