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Christians, I beg you to stop judging others.

 
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Miggy, have you checked your mailbox lately?

I sent you an email too, check your email and your mailbox.

hf
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LISA!!!!

I sent a plea on one of Troubled Water's threads to find you! I have had a rough time and my emails got dumped somehow. I can't find yours in my contacts plus I lost about 3 week's worth of incoming.

I must tell you what your beautiful gift did for my spirit. I have been so weary.

Can you please send me an email that has your email in it? I will try and find the thread I wrote, seeking you.

I love you, dear Lisa. You have no idea how much you mean to me!

Miggy
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You got email!

hf
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Aww...sweetie, don't fret. I haven't even been on GLP much in the last week. It's no big deal.

hf
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I don't know what's going on out there but lately I am finding myself in the midst of Christians who think it's okay to judge others, even just a little bit.

If this is you, I implore you to stop.

Please?!

Peace of Christ be with you today and always.

Miggy


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good call, but are you warning non-christians about their insults and judgements towards christians as well??
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I have made many and very horrendous mistakes in my life. When my parents got a divorce i cared about nothing anymore. I turned to drinking, doing tons of drugs, getting in fights, getting pregnant having an abortion at 15. Stole money, drove drunk, didnt care about society at all. A huge experience happened in my life, one really hard to explain because i was awake for two weeks straight on coke and meth. But one where there is absolutley no doubt in my mind their is God.

I am no longer that person but it took a long time to not judge myself, i didnt care about anyone else judging me, i tried a few churches, and a few old friends until i found acceptance. I try not to judge, im not perfect, but i have walked a mile in quite a few different shoes and i understand pain a lot.

If your hurting and feeling unloved, start with yourself , start loving yourself, faults and all. Do the best you can, sometimes you have to sit with the pain for awhile. It will get better if thats what you seek. Do the next right thing and love yourself and others that feel worse than you.

Us that are judging could be the next homeless person, the next person with an addiction, the next person who hurts inside........
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Closing,

I would like you to try something that is very therapeutic, in my opinion.

Find a quiet time this afternoon to pray. Talk to God and just let all of your emotions pour out.

I realize that you're already a believer but you will still find this experience exhilarating.


Start thinking about how God made you so unique and perfect that he gave you physical gifts that would make you special and unique and physical flaws that would serve to make you fragile and humble.

But the point is He knew you before you were born and put a great deal of thought into what would be best for YOU in this life.

Then I want you to go into the bathroom and look in the mirror while you are still in prayer.

Look in the mirror and, perhaps for the first time ever, see yourself not through YOUR eyes but through the eyes of God.

Look at your beautiful creation.

Even your scars will take on a whole new meaning.

Those flaws were created just as majestically and with special purpose for you as your traits were.

When we begin to see our broken selves NOT through our eyes or through the "eyes' of society, but rather through God's eyes we see a glorious work of art.

Your story is touching. I pray that you know how much you are loved.

hf
Be Still and know that I am God.
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The word of God disagrees with you and so do I.

You shall not hate your brother in your heart: you shall surely rebuke your neighbor, and not bear sin because of him. Leviticus 19:17
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Sigh.

Leviticus. The book of Laws.

Do you know that before Christ entered the picture there were 285 laws that people were to practice AND 365 laws that people were NOT to practice before they were thought worthy to enter into Heaven?

Man was given 10. By Moses.

Christ had to finally come down here and tell people to knock it off.

And in my opinion his most important was:

DO NOT JUDGE OTHERS!!!!

Sorry, but this infuriates me today.

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Jesus himself judged the jewish leaders to be evil.
Wasn't Jesus without sin and our model for living?
'do not judge' is not one of the ten commandments
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I rebuke you Miggy FOR THE GOD OF ABRAHAM ISSAC AND JACOB IS ON MY SIDE AND ALL OF YOUR TRICKS WONT WORK I LOVE GOD AND YOU DON'T BECAUSE YOU TRY TO DISTORT HIS MESSAGE GOD WILL JUDGE YOU FOR TURNING THE UNBELIEVERS AWAY WITH YOUR FALSE DOCTRINE YOU WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING
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Miggy - this guy must be a shill - don't allow this one to twist your heart! There's no doubt your intentions are pure!
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I did apologize to Miggy . I realized I misunderstood her and allowed satan to cloud my eyes . I no she won't forgive me know thoughhf
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Awesome! Praise God! You just glorifed His Name!
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I know. God IS awesome, isn't he JDB?

Have a beautiful Sunday!

hf
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The judgement is by God.
But REBUKE everyone who break the COMMANDMENTS.

Just like John the Baptist did to Herod for adultery with his brother's wife.


Turn the other cheek.
Forgive your enemy.
Do not partake on their sins.
BUT
REBUKE
EVERYONE
WHO
BREAKS
THE
LAW.

No discretion upon the wicked.
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But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to
be in silence. (1 Tim. 2:12)

And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? (Luke 6:46)

I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath
no place in you. I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that
which ye have seen with your father. (John 8:37-38)

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove
them. (Eph. 5:11)

What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear,
that preach ye upon the housetops. (Matt. 10:27)

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected
knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou
hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. (Hosea 4:6)

Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and
Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. (Matt. 10:15)


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From: Thread: simple rules of love

"based on rumi

How we see God is a direct reflection of how we see ourselves. If God brings to mind mostly fear and blame, it means there is mostly fear and blame welled inside us. If we see God as full of love and compassion, so are we.

Each and every reader comprehends the Qur’an/ Bible on a different level in tandem with the depth of his understanding. There are 4 levels of insight. The first level is the outer meaning and it is the one that the majority of people are content with. Next is the Batum- the inner level. Third there is the inner of the inner. And the fourth level is so deep it cannot be put into words and is therefore bound to be indescribable. Scholars who focus on the Sharia/ Bible know the outer meaning. Sufis/ Lightworkers know the inner meaning. Saints know the inner of the inner. The fourth level is known by prophets and those closest to God. So don’t judge the way other people connect to God. To each his own way and his own prayer. God does not take us at our word but looks deep into our hearts. It is not the ceremonies or rituals that make a difference, but whether our hearts are sufficiently pure or not.


You can study God through everything and everyone in the universe, because God is not confined in a mosque, synagogue or church. But if you are still in need of knowing exactly where his abode is, there is only one place to look for him: in the heart of a true lover.


Intellect and love are made of two different materials. Intellect ties people in knots and risks nothing, but love dissolves all tangles and risks everything. Intellect is always cautious and advises, “Beware too much ecstasy,” whereas Love says, “Oh never mind. Take the plunge!” Intellect does not easily break down, whereas love can effortlessly reduce itself to rubble. But treasures are hidden amongst ruins. A broken heart hides treasure.


Most of the problems of the world stem from linguistic mistakes and simple misunderstandings. Don’t ever take words at face value. When you step into the zone of love, language as we know it becomes obsolete. That which cannot be put into words can only be grasped through silence."
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The problem lies with how people define "judging". Some people think if you tell them something is a sin, that you're judging them, but Christians are supposed to speak out against evil.
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Father of lies ,i rebuke you in the name of Jesus.My father is Jesus almighty,but you try to deceive me with you tricks of the devil ,Father of lies
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You DO realize you're rebuking someone who is defending your position, don't you?
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That's what I was thinking.....
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But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to
be in silence. (1 Tim. 2:12)


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GLP isn't a christian church. There were rules set up for church services.

I love it with people take scriptures out of context.
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But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to
be in silence. (1 Tim. 2:12)


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GLP isn't a christian church. There were rules set up for church services.

I love it with people take scriptures out of context.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with
their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me,
teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. (Matt. 15:8-9)

Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private
interpretation. (2 Pet. 1:20)

Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
(Prov. 30:6)

But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to
be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not
deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. (1 Tim. 2:12-14)

Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven
unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven
unto men. (Matt. 12:31)

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth,
there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins (Heb. 10:26)

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall
he also reap. (Gal. 6:7)
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But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to
be in silence. (1 Tim. 2:12)


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GLP isn't a christian church. There were rules set up for church services.

I love it with people take scriptures out of context.
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This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with
their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me,
teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. (Matt. 15:8-9)

Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private
interpretation. (2 Pet. 1:20)

Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
(Prov. 30:6)

But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to
be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not
deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. (1 Tim. 2:12-14)

Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven
unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven
unto men. (Matt. 12:31)

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth,
there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins (Heb. 10:26)

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall
he also reap. (Gal. 6:7)

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1 Corinthians 13:13 "And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love."
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DO YOU REALLY THINK THE THE POINT OF THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS CHRIST IS THAT WE DO NOT DISTINGUISH RIGHT FROM WRONG AND BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL?
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But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to
be in silence. (1 Tim. 2:12)


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GLP isn't a christian church. There were rules set up for church services.

I love it with people take scriptures out of context.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with
their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me,
teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. (Matt. 15:8-9)

Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private
interpretation. (2 Pet. 1:20)

Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
(Prov. 30:6)

But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to
be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not
deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. (1 Tim. 2:12-14)

Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven
unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven
unto men. (Matt. 12:31)

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth,
there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins (Heb. 10:26)

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall
he also reap. (Gal. 6:7)

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1 Corinthians 13:13 "And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love."
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


hugs
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Why does Jesus say first remove the plank from your own eye

but then what

oh yeah

then the speck in your brothers?


The point is judge rightly.
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But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to
be in silence. (1 Tim. 2:12)


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GLP isn't a christian church. There were rules set up for church services.

I love it with people take scriptures out of context.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with
their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me,
teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. (Matt. 15:8-9)

Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private
interpretation. (2 Pet. 1:20)

Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
(Prov. 30:6)

But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to
be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not
deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. (1 Tim. 2:12-14)

Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven
unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven
unto men. (Matt. 12:31)

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth,
there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins (Heb. 10:26)

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall
he also reap. (Gal. 6:7)

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1 Corinthians 13:13 "And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love."
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


God is love. (1 John 4:8)

the Word was God. (John 1:1)

Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this
adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be
ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
(Mark 8:38)
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Why is good judgment now a bad thing?
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GLP isn't a christian church. There were rules set up for church services.

I love it with people take scriptures out of context.
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This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with
their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me,
teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. (Matt. 15:8-9)

Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private
interpretation. (2 Pet. 1:20)

Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
(Prov. 30:6)

But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to
be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not
deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. (1 Tim. 2:12-14)

Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven
unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven
unto men. (Matt. 12:31)

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth,
there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins (Heb. 10:26)

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall
he also reap. (Gal. 6:7)

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1 Corinthians 13:13 "And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love."
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


hugs
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"Yes, and why, even of yourselves, do you not judge what is right?"

Luke 12:57


"Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life?"

1Corinthians 6:2,3


"Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment."

John 7:24
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If someone is doing something that is clearly wrong it is not "judging" them to simply voice the plain truth of the matter. Otherwise you would never be able to simply read the Bible out loud in front of anyone you thought might not agree.

There are such things as right and wrong and I will not be silent about it.
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Well I belive it is wrong to kill once wife because she is not a virgin on the wedding night, God does not.

Who is right and who is wrong?
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because we living in ransom world when the law could be paid with money
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Thank you, Miggy - this is a wonderful message. I'm reminded of the story of Jesus when He met the tax collector Matthew. Matthew's brother James begged Jesus not to confront Matthew, but Jesus continued on. James thought Jesus would judge Matthew and that conflict would ensue. Instead, Jesus got through to Matthew by His example, rather than His judgment. Jesus was telling us that people are more likely to change their ways by following your good example than by being condemned with judgment.

hf
"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." - Revelation 21:4

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.
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More properly understood,

which is beyond the ability of many prominent Christian teachers to understand or teach these days,

the point is that we are not to CONDEMN others, but judge rightly according to righteous (Godly) judgment, teach, instruct and correct, and warn of God's ultimate judgment.


It most certainly is not that Christians are not supposed to judge anyone or anything. How is that salt or light to the world?
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Until a Christian makes their Leap Of Faith, Trusting God The Father Fully with every aspect of their life, they remain alienated from HIM and afflicted with the carnal-heart, our legacy from Adam & Eve who chose self-will over God's Will in the garden of eden.


Many Hebrews 12 Bastards in the Laodicean church age, especially American Christians. Rationalizers of their self-will, these pukes (Jesus Witnesses in Revelation 3 that HE Will Spew them forth from HIS Mouth...) cannot submit Unto The Father. Never a Witness of John 17 from these he & she Bastards. No Knowledge of what Abiding In & With God means or how it has changed their lives.

You are false-witnessing anti-Christs and Jesus Witnesses HE Knows you not. St. John Witnesses that your anti-Christ presence is how we Know the end has come; that if you were Of-HIM, of us, you would have remained Of-HIM, of us. But you are not...


You reject what you don't wish to hear.
You cannot fathom your carnality and alienation from God.
Essentially, you are playing god in your own head and denying HIS Chastisement and Guidance.

Am I judgmental? No, what I am is obective and full of witness on the matter of the carnal-heart, self-will, and aware of what it means to live in alienation from God; no matter how well you espouse Love For HIM and have best intentions...

Intentions mean nothing.
Faith w/o works is dead.
"Don't talk of love, show me", goes the lyric. Very True.
Can't or won't surrender self Unto The Father, then you are nobody to HIM. Not really nobody, more like a failed vessel. One who chose the wretchedness of carnality over the Born-Again Life In & With HIM...

These are your choices.

Love God, (you say), but unable to show HIM; not willing to Trust HIM. Unable to manifest your heart because of your sick rationalizations...


Not much time remaining. Soon ends The Age Of Faith and Christ Will Witness that only they who do the Will Of My Father Which Art In Heaven are Known By HIM... See Matt 7 and Luke 13.

On your own, apart from HIM.
Because you rejected HIS Righteous Chastisement.

It is St. Paul who Witnesses you are Bastards in Hebrews 12:5-10.

Whining bastards that seek self rather than proving their Love For The Father and Accepting/Seeking HIS Will as right and just for them.


Want your life to go according to your self-will and desires? Of course you do! Pity that you can't grasp that all fulfillment comes from Trusting God and making your surrender. Life, when lived in Ezekiel 36 Born-Again Accord With HIM is better than anything you could imagine!
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.


Living In Accord With The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is a reality beyond any you might imagine.

If you claim to Love Christ, Know that The Father Has Put Knowledge of WHO Jesus Is on your heart, then it is time for you to choose if you can Trust HIM Fully or not.


Most Christians are unable to Trust HIM.

What say you?

Now is the time to get on your knees and open your heart unto The Father; IF you would be HIS...


Maranatha!!!
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What makes you think that because they profess to be Christians that they should be obligated even in the slightest to actually liven as God would have them live?

Those who feel that way should be avoided and have curses breathed on them. You know them, they go to church and they are so awesome they say to themselves looking in the mirror and they are not so dignified as Satan's crap.

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