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If Jesus was God.....

 
Aman

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collosians 2 verse 9 fullness of god head
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Paul/Saul was a false Prophet so forget him.

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Men said Jesus was a false prophet and even put him to death.

Know why they need Paul to be a false prophet?

So they can say God never accepted nor turned to the gentiles, they deny this:

And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:

Paul is no false prophet for even the Apostle Peter claims they extended him the right-hand of fellowship and that he was much loved by them.

You are believing men OVER God.

And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we [should go] unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

And account [that] the longsuffering of our Lord [is] salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

will you take the testimony of men in this time over the Apostle Peter?
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Jesus was meek and humble so he never told people to worship him, or told people directly "I am God".

But the whole point of doing hundreds of miracles was not so that people could have a better life, was so that he could show people that believeth in him.

Now the Father, God Almighty, the creator is different.
"For I am a jealous God!" "Worship him and give glory to him!"
And then you see more than a dozen of passages where the whole point is him wanting to be aknowledged for being God.

The whole reason why he is the God of Israel, is because they were the ones who spotted and recognized him first.


In the Bible itself there are all sort of other gods, like the queen of the death, mother of harlots and occult, divination, sorceries, enchantments, miracles and so on. But explaining the metaphysics of the universe and its mysteries is not the point of the Bible.

Basically, it doesnt mean those dont exist and dont cause effects. What it means is that those are not the truth. Are not the life. Are an abomination unto God.

Maybe after this world ends, we get to know more about the other creations of God, but for us, created beings, its not really the point.

We are created to serve him.
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Why would He say this?

Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. John 14:6

If He was the Father, that would make no sense.
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Jesus was the incarnation of a Creator Son: Michael of Nebadon. He is the personalisation of God The Father for us in His Universe. If we worship Him, he will send our worship to God The Father.
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The Urantia book is absurd.
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Absurd for you but not for me.peace
Those who seek God seek everything, those who find God find everything.
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I can't believe you tardfarts who utterly fail to acknowledge that the divine trinity are both separate, and also the same.

Until you die, you will find every way to challenge faith... also a contradiction.
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How, if Jesus was the Father could the Father call him Son?

Have you not read that Jesus constantly said, "my Father and I are one?"

Or, "he that sent me is true".

It is plain that Jesus was not the Father but the Father was IN Jesus.

Just as Jesus is IN us who believe!

We in him and he in his Father. In this way is what you have quoted and doted about to snare the babies true.

but this revelation will only serve to anger you further.
 Quoting: Aman


They are one in union, in agreement. Does not mean they are the same person.
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If they were the same person then all the quotes I gave would be lies and could never be truth.
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Yep! afro
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Please tell me your "Source" is not the Bible
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Yep. What is yours? The Bible is 100% accurate in it's thousands of prophecy's and is the only historically accurate holy book.
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Why Good Sir I am the Second Coming of Christ!
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Well I'll be. cruise5a
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Why would He say this?

Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. John 14:6

If He was the Father, that would make no sense.
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That would never work,then who would pick up the tab for the last supper?

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Yep. What is yours? The Bible is 100% accurate in it's thousands of prophecy's and is the only historically accurate holy book.
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Why Good Sir I am the Second Coming of Christ!
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Well I'll be. cruise5a
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hf
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peacebonghitcharlie
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For unto us a child is born unto us a son is given you shall Call him almighty god everlasting father prince of peace
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I don't remember reading that in my Bible.
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Jesus was like the missing link between God and man.
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If you do hear and have wisdom and understanding.

It basically states, "when you see Isis doing her thing, run to the mountains"

And then you think, wow wow, what it has to do Jesus.

It tells you all you need to know, Jesus is the light, the door, the way, the truth, the life. Everyone else the Bible mention, is either part of the unliving, abominations of the earth, mystery religion, mother of harlots.

It even talks about different classes of spirits. Jesus look at the possessed and asks the father "How long has this been?", because he knew it was worse than usual. Then his apostles couldnt cast the spirit out, but he went and did it. Afterwards he said that "this type of spirit only goes away with prayer and fasting".

So there it does give you more details than you really need.

So people messing around with the occult have no excuse.
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Jesus was meek and humble so he never told people to worship him, or told people directly "I am God".

But the whole point of doing hundreds of miracles was not so that people could have a better life, was so that he could show people that believeth in him.

Now the Father, God Almighty, the creator is different.
"For I am a jealous God!" "Worship him and give glory to him!"
And then you see more than a dozen of passages where the whole point is him wanting to be aknowledged for being God.

The whole reason why he is the God of Israel, is because they were the ones who spotted and recognized him first.


In the Bible itself there are all sort of other gods, like the queen of the death, mother of harlots and occult, divination, sorceries, enchantments, miracles and so on. But explaining the metaphysics of the universe and its mysteries is not the point of the Bible.

Basically, it doesnt mean those dont exist and dont cause effects. What it means is that those are not the truth. Are not the life. Are an abomination unto God.

Maybe after this world ends, we get to know more about the other creations of God, but for us, created beings, its not really the point.

We are created to serve him.
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All True
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Its like people with 2 rocks in their hands, bumping then against each other indefinitelly.

A huge chunk of the bible is about wisdom and understanding, hearing, seeing, but mainly Believing.

The Bible tells you clearly it was designed to test our beliefs. All the information that is given, the Bible even tells you it balances it to not expoil the test.

About not giving signals this season, or explaining why speaking in parables. The whole design is explained. Ive yet to see someone analysing the design of the doctrine and comparing it with the design of anything else made by human thought.

You see, you have people talking about evolution. But nobody can take on the design of the dogmatic rethoric of the Bible as a closed self affirming system and expose it as being "an evolution", or man made.

Still, people keep trying to understand it as if it was some kid playing with Legos. Trying to apply "human thinking" and "reasoning" to it.

"Oh, no wayz11 God made the earth in 6 days? Thats unpossubel"

If its a book about God, everything is possible, beyond your compreension. The "logic" and message of it thereof is enough to provide any reader, at any point in time, with a base of comparison to find out the truth.

"For whom have ears, let him hear it"

The bible even tells at many points, that its about to give a puzzle or a hint, something that will require more from the reader.

There are many levels of understanding.

The basic message is accessible to all. Everyone can have faith.

Yet, people fall short of the secrets whose compreension require gifts from God, wisdom, and understanding and they lose the focus of the main thing: Faith.
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In the beginning was the word and the word was with god and the word is god Jesus is the word no man can go to the father except thru Jesus because he is the word of god he is god in flesh
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In the beginning was the word and the word was with god and the word is god Jesus is the word no man can go to the father except thru Jesus because he is the word of god he is god in flesh
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Word of God is no flesh. "Word lived among us" in flesh, Jesus. GOT IT ??

They are NOT the same.
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Why would He say this?

Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. John 14:6

If He was the Father, that would make no sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26991397


Jesus was the incarnation of a Creator Son: Michael of Nebadon. He is the personalisation of God The Father for us in His Universe. If we worship Him, he will send our worship to God The Father.
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Do we need Urantia to explain the Bible? - NO.
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Basically he's saying. No one will get to meet God unless they believe in Christ.
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Isahia 9 verse 6 Old testament also see the fullness of the god head is in him he is god in man sent to relate to us because thats the only way a human could see god moses could not look or he would surely die
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Not a very practical fellow, old god. Slaying your creation for looking at you seems a tad fucking retarded :-)