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Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?

 
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You know, funny thing is open your eyes didn't even start the thread, yet he out comments everyone pretty much 2-1......you make your agenda too obvious, all one has to do is look at your history. Lol deny it in here all you want, there's some nifty people here that know what's up

Over and out
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You can't Out Top the Topper! lol
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I expect the OP to respond to as many questions as possible. I get suspicious when the person makes the initial post and then never makes a single post after that.
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Open your eyes isn't the original poster in the first place.....

Yea, the "out topper" is a thread hijacker.
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I stand corrected.
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Re: Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
Oh, and if Enoch is correct, lucifer and co rebelled because they dug the chicas here...

I would guess they grew to desire the sensual experiences humans have here... the loves, passions, tragedies of the free will God gives us here... it is probably quite seductive... all the emotions expressed... to us they seem quite real and meaningful... they often blind us to the real purpose of the experiences...

plus they resented having to watch and manage us for God without being allowed direct action and control...

lucifer was kept here as part of his punishment and because it served a useful purpose of essentially weeding out God's free will creations...

lucifer's prime objective seems to be control over us and destruction of as many of God's creations as possible... like a hardened convict might wish prison on those who are free...

:) Thread: John Lear may be wrong about Christ
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Wow, did Lucifer rebeled ? realy ?

Never thought he? did :))

Maybe he? was bored or something and accepted the role :)
Anyway, all stays in the big family :)

But i like the stories about he's wings
Hahaha

hf
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Oh, and if Enoch is correct, lucifer and co rebelled because they dug the chicas here...

I would guess they grew to desire the sensual experiences humans have here... the loves, passions, tragedies of the free will God gives us here... it is probably quite seductive... all the emotions expressed... to us they seem quite real and meaningful... they often blind us to the real purpose of the experiences...

plus they resented having to watch and manage us for God without being allowed direct action and control...

lucifer was kept here as part of his punishment and because it served a useful purpose of essentially weeding out God's free will creations...

lucifer's prime objective seems to be control over us and destruction of as many of God's creations as possible... like a hardened convict might wish prison on those who are free...

:) Thread: John Lear may be wrong about Christ
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Lucifer or Satan? Earth is hell. We should not even be here. Satan tricked us into incarnating or did it by stealing our spirit..

Sounds like you're describing Satan.
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Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
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If you are talking about the great dragon or serpent, he was made that way from the beginning, for he was always a liar and murderer (John 8:44, KJV).

He was never a model being then went to free will and chose to be bad.

He was a defect from the beginning and then he created this world.

He was made, though he denies it, and he was made out of desire to "self emanate" from the self without the true One who is the source (the Barbelo where Yeshua comes from), hence the devil or who you speak of is made of light and darkness.

He was a mess so he made a mess, which is why the world is so fucked up.
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Exodus 20:5

thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God

So God himself admitted he is a jealous God.

This seem like creator and creature have conflicting traits.
One is Jealous and another is excedeengly Proud.

How do we reconcile two spirits with these seemingly antagonic characteristics?

Now, when Lucifer is refered as "that old serpent" more than one time, it feels like God really felt betrayed when Adam and Eve fell.

Now, when Elijah came, he gave the whole thing (the last 10 thousand years nonetheless) a pedagogic character. As if the whole point was to teach a lesson, and enlighten Lucifer and his followers.
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Just think it is a jewish book.

Look at how they dress till today, and compare to a brazilian biquini.

See who is fucked up more in the mind...
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You are brazilian so you know Raul Seixas.
Raul Seixas was one of the first channels of Luciferian philosophy since the baby boom generation.

Similar to Charles Manson perceiving the paradigm shift, except Raul Seixas decided to be a champion mover here on Brazil, just like the Elvis on US or the Beetles were on UK.

All of his songs speak through Lucifer point of view, like "I was born 10 thousand years ago" or the one that is called "Metamorphose Ambulante", wich is basically about change/freedom, and how human beings are subject to change (the new idea presented at the time)

He mocked the "crying rocks" (true christians) in another song and managed to change the perception to the point where to be normal (the current paradigm was to be christian) was to be crazy.

So how something was, or how something is now, is not any indicative by itself. If one, we should evaluate more important things. Christians choose the fruits. I dont know what critery would the Luciferians consider the most important to showcase the "best of their system". Probably for them it is yet to come.

Anyway, when you speak of Jews. Know that Jews were exterminated in the Holocaust mainly because they would not addapt to the idea of civilized europe. Herzel thought to subject jews to "baptism" on the Catholic Church as an strategy to integrate them socially and be more tolerable, but ultimatelly didnt worked out.

We all know how it ended. Same with the Protestants on south of Germany and the millions of Protestants on Russia during the bolchevik revolution.

So changing or not changing, by itself is not a valid point.
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Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
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If you are talking about the great dragon or serpent, he was made that way from the beginning, for he was always a liar and murderer (John 8:44, KJV).

He was never a model being then went to free will and chose to be bad.

He was a defect from the beginning and then he created this world.

He was made, though he denies it, and he was made out of desire to "self emanate" from the self without the true One who is the source (the Barbelo where Yeshua comes from), hence the devil or who you speak of is made of light and darkness.

He was a mess so he made a mess, which is why the world is so fucked up.
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Hahaha :))) Well said :))
So well that in fact i understood nothing at all :P

Are you or real ?

Or am i seeing just the light and the dark in you ?
Oh no, Lucifer, is that you ?

Greetings, liar :D

Hahaha :))
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Research a lady named Kathy Kerr, she was taken out of the body and to heaven. She was revealed this about Lucifer, all also include scriptures, in italics.

Lucifer, had the ability to walk inside of God.

Thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

She states, the stones of fire, was the heart of God. God's love for us, was magnified by these stones, which created the rainbow around God.

A rainbow, resembling an emerald, encircled the throne.


The archangels, Michael, Gabriel, and Lucifer, each were leaders of a third of the angel.

And his tail swept away a third of the stars of heaven, and threw them to the earth.

Lucifer was in charge of praise / music. He had musical instruments literally built into his very being.

... the workmanship of thy tabrets [a musical instrument] and of thy flutes prepared in thee in the day thou was created.

Like God, who also had precious stones in him, so did Lucifer.

...every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald and the carbuncle, and gold.


This is why, he felt he was like God.

During praise and worship. He would stand inside of God. And magnify and glorify the praise and worship coming to God.

He felt this praise and worship coming to God, and wanted it for himself.

This was very beginning of the fall.
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What are Gabriel and Michael in charge of?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Lucifer, was in charge of the angels, that did praise / worship to God. These angels, also fell with him.

Michael, was in charge of the warrior angels.

Gabriel, was in charge of the rest, scribes angels, messengers, etc.
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Let me also mention this about this lady, Kat Kerr, who was revealed this.

Here's info that gives strong evidence, that she didn't merely imagined / hallucinated / made this up.

While in heaven, she came across several deceased people. She learned of highly specific information about these people, that she couldn't have possibly known about. After returning to Earth, she then went to these people's family members and shared the information. The people shocked and at times even crying, verified the information down to the exact details. In one instance, the information that was revealed, was only recently learned and confirmed in a girl's personal diary, who Kat saw in heaven. Also, the girl wasn't even a relative.
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Here's more about this specific account:





You can contact the deceased girl's family members, to verify and back up what Kat is saying.

Also here's something interesting.

Many who seen Jesus (in an NDE or taken out of the body) all state he has blue eyes.

In addition, many who state, they went to heaven, that flowers sing.

Kat, also confirms both pieces of information. That Jesus has blue eyes, and that flowers sing in heaven.

She also states, she seen the 4 living creatures around God's throne, described in the Bible.

This little 4 year old girl, taken to heaven, also confirms seeing the 4 living creatures around God. This little girl also confirms, the plants are alive there. She stated the grass was speaking to her. In addition like Kat, she comes across information about the deceased, that was unknown to her. After research, this information was then verified to be true down to the exact details. This includes the information of a little boy that was murdered. She knew his name, and described how he died in exact details.



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You can't Out Top the Topper! lol
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I expect the OP to respond to as many questions as possible. I get suspicious when the person makes the initial post and then never makes a single post after that.
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Open your eyes isn't the original poster in the first place.....

Yea, the "out topper" is a thread hijacker.
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Consider me Mankind's Greatest Catalyst in their Evolutionary Journey.
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You know, illusions of grandeur are a well known symptom of narcissistic personality disorder......

Really if anyone wanted to get the full spliel on open your eyes, all you'd have to do is read this entire thread.
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Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
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Honestly, its a made up story you fucking child.
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Such ignorance these days. If you honestly don't believe in good and evil you are truly blind. It is around us every second of every day. Some folks are filled with darkness, others filled with light. Lucifer is VERY much real, same as our Lord Above! I'm not a Bibletard by any means but when people deny the obvious it is sad.

I weep for your soul. For just a second.
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Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
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Cosmic teenager thinks he knows better than dad.
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Dad created him to have that attitude. So where does the fault truly lie?

In any event, I find the much more fascinating story revolves around all the idiot humans who think they know anything at all about The Fall.

Where do you think you came from? If it wasn't for that bit of rebellion, you wouldn't even exist.
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Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
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Honestly, its a made up story you fucking child.
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Such ignorance these days. If you honestly don't believe in good and evil you are truly blind. It is around us every second of every day. Some folks are filled with darkness, others filled with light. Lucifer is VERY much real, same as our Lord Above! I'm not a Bibletard by any means but when people deny the obvious it is sad.

I weep for your soul. For just a second.
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You are Lucifer and you are Christ.
And you are Blind too.

I weep no for your soul. Don't spend a second on this de-visionary thoughts :-D

Be Love !

hf
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I was Genetically Engineered that way. :)
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Please expand that idea :)

Is fascinating for me.

Please !

hf
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Re: Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
The truth is the majority have not investigated what really happened. When God the Father created Man in his image he told the angels to bow before his image. The majority did but Lucifer said that he would not bow before a creation that was of clay/dirt when he was created by spirit/fire because he felt he was above Man he refused to bow, which is why he has done all evil things against humanity, which he hates because we are the image of the creator and his fall was due to not bowing or paying respect to Man GOD's image. You can find this info in the lost books of Adam and Eve 1 and 2 just do a quick search read for yourself
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I was Genetically Engineered that way. :)
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Please expand that idea :)

Is fascinating for me.

Please !

hf
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I was Genetically Engineered to have a body that is Powerful Enough to hold the Spirit of Lucifer
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We all have that body.
We all can hold the spirit of Lucifer.
We all can learn to train our Dragons(s)

So why are you better than me ?

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I was Genetically Engineered that way. :)
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Please expand that idea :)

Is fascinating for me.

Please !

hf
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My DNA is not human.

It's more Alien.

My Mind thinks more like a computer.

My Energy has the ability to influence mass Energies around me.

And I can put audiences in trance like leaders of the past could.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes



Yet, you're not the only one that can do this.

I suggest that all Nobodies move on the same hill :-D

And i was geneticaly modified to love you all :p

Nananana nanaa :-D
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Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
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it is simple.

Lucifer has many 'defects'

first, he hates authority

second, he is irresponsible

third, in order to compensate for his self inflicted pain, he blames others

fourth, he serves only one being, HIMSELF. and at any COST to others.

so....he rebelled...JUST AS MOST HUMANS DO NOW.

how many of you, here, now, are angered by posts here that talk of 'God'??????

well? you know the anger of Lucifer because you follow him.
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Please expand that idea :)

Is fascinating for me.

Please !

hf
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My DNA is not human.

It's more Alien.

My Mind thinks more like a computer.

My Energy has the ability to influence mass Energies around me.

And I can put audiences in trance like leaders of the past could.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes



Yet, you're not the only one that can do this.

I suggest that all Nobodies move on the same hill :-D

And i was geneticaly modified to love you all :p

Nananana nanaa :-D
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lol
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Now don't LoL me Lucifer :)

You say you was bread to be the next Lucifer.
Greetings to the great Family then :)

And have some fancy wings when time comes :P

I still love you !

hf
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Re: Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
He wanted complete freedom of choice for all.
This would lead to chaos and destrustion for many.

The Father's plan gives the illusion of choice but is really only a predetermined set of conditions which are designed to 'shepherd' the flock in the direction He wants them to go. A system wherein you can make any choice you want but; the choices which are in line with the pre-set plan will bring rewards, those which do not conform bring pain and misery like a cattle prod to the heart and soul. it is a system designed to 'encourage' certain behaviours; compliance and complacency.

God gave you free will; The free will to do as you are told. Disobediance is punished until you have 'repented' and returned to the pre-set path. This may take one agonizing lifetime...or many. You do not get out until you have learned total obedience and given yourself over completely to His will.
Lucifer saw the hipocracy in this and rebelled.
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Well, from reading Revelation 21, up to the end of Bible we get only a brief textual description of God's New Jerusalem.
It does sound too self centered, too symmetric, pompous and dry.

Just like our current courts of Law and when I get into those I feel really bad, just from being there and looking around. So the description the authors on the Bible gave might not be a good indication of it.

We dont know how is to live under God's New Jerusalem. One could assume the Father know what is best for us. And one could assume that we cant really properly evaluate it, because "our perceptions are incomplete, rigged so to speak".

One cannot say that we know how is to live under the Law, because it has always been corrupt, always hybrids, always tares. No particular time period of our history can provide a good example of what would be like under God's tutelage.

But on the other hand
Well, now we know how is to live under Lucifer's. Sorta.
So far, I dont like it. I feel like Lot in Babylon. People are so deceived (christian perspective) or disconnected/asleep (luciferian perspective) that doesnt feel right. The values of the human being are wrong, we have lost most standards. I dont feel like going around praying on the weak/dumb either. It feels like the design of human beings couldnt possibly match the design of Lucifer's. Neither what we have now could possibly be up to whatever standards he intended. For example, God gave us different and unique gifts, but gave us the same needs. It seems like a very complicated mechanism to breed conflict. How could Lucifer counter it? Doesnt feel like he ever cared about it, unless you think the Social Contract or the Declaration of Human Rights amount to anything. On the Bible, we have the doctrine designed to mitigate/balance "complete" free will and uniqueness/individuality under the Law of God.

The thing is, it seems like Lucifer barelly got started as well. It feels like he spent 10 thousand years just designing and implementing to get to this point. You see, his Golden Age didnt started yet.
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Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
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If you are talking about the great dragon or serpent, he was made that way from the beginning, for he was always a liar and murderer (John 8:44, KJV).

He was never a model being then went to free will and chose to be bad.

He was a defect from the beginning and then he created this world.

He was made, though he denies it, and he was made out of desire to "self emanate" from the self without the true One who is the source (the Barbelo where Yeshua comes from), hence the devil or who you speak of is made of light and darkness.

He was a mess so he made a mess, which is why the world is so fucked up.
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Hahaha :))) Well said :))
So well that in fact i understood nothing at all :P

Are you or real ?

Or am i seeing just the light and the dark in you ?
Oh no, Lucifer, is that you ?

Greetings, liar :D

Hahaha :))
 Quoting: Avalonia 9709833


No seriously, look up Hermes Trismegistus. He wrote books older than ones written by Moses (aka the Torah, the Old Testament...4500BC when Hermes works is 9000 BCE)

And in his writing he called this dude "God," which is true because he did create the world, but he's not the True God. This dude is light and dark, like duality God.

If I were Hermes I'd believe the same thing he did because this God really made some awesome revelations.

But, thank Yeshua, the one who died on the cross almost 2000 years ago. He comes from Father and only He is the way to the Father. By hearing of His Gospel, by the Holy Ghost the truth is revealed.

A lot of people believe in the same God as Hermes did, the Jews, Catholics, etc. Some even say he is even Jesus Christ, which may be true. Thats why I call Him Yeshua, because Yeshua is not this God who forms the light and creates darkness (Isaiah 45:7).

That is Yaldaboath, that is who many many people worship, thinking he is the true God, because he DOES deceives the WHOLE world (Revelations 12:9)
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Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27003095


If you are talking about the great dragon or serpent, he was made that way from the beginning, for he was always a liar and murderer (John 8:44, KJV).

He was never a model being then went to free will and chose to be bad.

He was a defect from the beginning and then he created this world.

He was made, though he denies it, and he was made out of desire to "self emanate" from the self without the true One who is the source (the Barbelo where Yeshua comes from), hence the devil or who you speak of is made of light and darkness.

He was a mess so he made a mess, which is why the world is so fucked up.
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Hahaha :))) Well said :))
So well that in fact i understood nothing at all :P

Are you or real ?

Or am i seeing just the light and the dark in you ?
Oh no, Lucifer, is that you ?

Greetings, liar :D

Hahaha :))
 Quoting: Avalonia 9709833


No seriously, look up Hermes Trismegistus. He wrote books older than ones written by Moses (aka the Torah, the Old Testament...4500BC when Hermes works is 9000 BCE)

And in his writing he called this dude "God," which is true because he did create the world, but he's not the True God. This dude is light and dark, like duality God.

If I were Hermes I'd believe the same thing he did because this God really made some awesome revelations.

But, thank Yeshua, the one who died on the cross almost 2000 years ago. He comes from Father and only He is the way to the Father. By hearing of His Gospel, by the Holy Ghost the truth is revealed.

A lot of people believe in the same God as Hermes did, the Jews, Catholics, etc. Some even say he is even Jesus Christ, which may be true. Thats why I call Him Yeshua, because Yeshua is not this God who forms the light and creates darkness (Isaiah 45:7).

That is Yaldaboath, that is who many many people worship, thinking he is the true God, because he DOES deceives the WHOLE world (Revelations 12:9)
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Gods have agendas
Deceiving is merely a game.

The Creator (or Source) is the only so called G0D i can aknowledge.

Hermes was just a "priest" preaching.
Is people's problem if they bow to everyone that can play with their minds.

Lucifer is just a concept.
In fact, the name is describing a planet in the sky.
You all assume that Lucifer is a he when in fact can be a she too.
Being a concept, its personalisation can be done in many ways.

Rebellion can describe a certain type of energy flowing too

And so on, and so on...

But who am i to speak in front of people who read books full with dead written words ?
Nobody...

So keep Bee-Lie-ving... or keep Bee-Living.
Is your choice :-D

hf
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Lucifer is not the devil ffs. He is the human torch lighting our path. Creating what we call life. Matrix. So we can have choice to be, using the rule of creation and destruction. We are stuck here temporarily. Like a 'creator's boot-camp' per say. Soon the milky way will be our play-ground. Then the universe, then beyond. Why do we have to label everything? Everything is. White hats need black hats because they love to protect. Black hats need white hats because they love to infiltrate. Learning, Creation, destruction. like playing with lego's. Everyone has a place.
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Gods have agendas
Deceiving is merely a game.

The Creator (or Source) is the only so called G0D i can aknowledge.

Hermes was just a "priest" preaching.
Is people's problem if they bow to everyone that can play with their minds.

Lucifer is just a concept.
In fact, the name is describing a planet in the sky.
You all assume that Lucifer is a he when in fact can be a she too.
Being a concept, its personalisation can be done in many ways.

Rebellion can describe a certain type of energy flowing too

And so on, and so on...

But who am i to speak in front of people who read books full with dead written words ?
Nobody...

So keep Bee-Lie-ving... or keep Bee-Living.
Is your choice :-D

hf
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Oh Clever One!

I like you
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Don't tempt me Lucifer :-D

eyebat

Just Rise and Shine :)

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Re: Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
He rebelled because God needed him to do it. Just like Jesus needed Judas to do what he did. Its all part of the plan.
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Re: Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
Simple question. Simple answer. He rebelled cause God ordered the angels to bow to adam who was made of clay. Lucifer is an angel of fire and thought he was better than adam. It was the first instance of pride, one the the 7 deadly sins.
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11/04/2012 08:26 PM

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Re: Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
This is a story that needs to be told
It's you

You're a star

Call you in the morning
You got it. First thing.

Free will, right?

Vanity...

...definitely your favorite sin.

You just made the biggest mistake

of your life!

You swore you would! You'll burn for this!

It's time.
 Quoting: JD 26196597


who are you talking about?
Yeshua/Christ Jesus/Esu Sananda/Christ Michael Aton/CM/ATON was Jesus Christ oversoul as he walked the earth,set up the Kingdom of Heaven within. To get to Father/Mother God is through your own Heart Portal, we have been gifted the HOly Spirit/HigherSelf as our guide.

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Thread: Starships above my home

Love yourself, and your world will heal around you like the waves in the ocean. When ONe unites with the Holy Spirit/HigherSelf, it becomes your mate, you are inlove with the Divine within, then comes the relationship for he is the direct line to Father Source so you experience that connection, so then it becomes your rule of measure as to who knows the FAther, The kingdom is within...
The Path to the New World is guilt, shame, and regret free.

Dear Father Mother God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change what I can (Me) and the wisdom to know the difference. I AM getting better everyday. Truly.......


God's dream is our Destiny...Light and Life. We can do it.
Spirituality + Technology= Balance into Light and Life.

A personal decree " That I will be harmless to myself and others"

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Re: Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
He rebelled because God needed him to do it. Just like Jesus needed Judas to do what he did. Its all part of the plan.
 Quoting: 52rockwell 21272761


Judas was framed
Yeshua/Christ Jesus/Esu Sananda/Christ Michael Aton/CM/ATON was Jesus Christ oversoul as he walked the earth,set up the Kingdom of Heaven within. To get to Father/Mother God is through your own Heart Portal, we have been gifted the HOly Spirit/HigherSelf as our guide.

[link to www.machiventamelchizedek.org]



Thread: Starships above my home

Love yourself, and your world will heal around you like the waves in the ocean. When ONe unites with the Holy Spirit/HigherSelf, it becomes your mate, you are inlove with the Divine within, then comes the relationship for he is the direct line to Father Source so you experience that connection, so then it becomes your rule of measure as to who knows the FAther, The kingdom is within...
The Path to the New World is guilt, shame, and regret free.

Dear Father Mother God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change what I can (Me) and the wisdom to know the difference. I AM getting better everyday. Truly.......


God's dream is our Destiny...Light and Life. We can do it.
Spirituality + Technology= Balance into Light and Life.

A personal decree " That I will be harmless to myself and others"

www.heavenletters.org

[link to heartsongmeditation.wordpress.com (secure)]
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11/04/2012 08:29 PM
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Re: Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
He rebelled because God needed him to do it. Just like Jesus needed Judas to do what he did. Its all part of the plan.
 Quoting: 52rockwell 21272761


Judas was framed
 Quoting: Being Mindful


He was told to, not framed. tounge
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11/04/2012 08:37 PM
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Re: Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
Lucifer stepped outside of God's law. The Law, or commandments are the perfect law of liberty.
He wanted to challenge that law,rebelled, and drew a 1/3 of the angels with him. They were cast out.

Don't you get it, to have a perfect society, you have to have law as a guideline to have harmony within the society.

Take the french revolution, and what happened then.

The 10 commandments are guidelines. If we all kept them, our world wouldn't be in the situation it's in.
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11/04/2012 08:38 PM

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Re: Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
OYE then you are Christ Michael son right?
and Esu is your brother the good brother correct?

Why would you want to compete with your Father/God.
Yeshua/Christ Jesus/Esu Sananda/Christ Michael Aton/CM/ATON was Jesus Christ oversoul as he walked the earth,set up the Kingdom of Heaven within. To get to Father/Mother God is through your own Heart Portal, we have been gifted the HOly Spirit/HigherSelf as our guide.

[link to www.machiventamelchizedek.org]



Thread: Starships above my home

Love yourself, and your world will heal around you like the waves in the ocean. When ONe unites with the Holy Spirit/HigherSelf, it becomes your mate, you are inlove with the Divine within, then comes the relationship for he is the direct line to Father Source so you experience that connection, so then it becomes your rule of measure as to who knows the FAther, The kingdom is within...
The Path to the New World is guilt, shame, and regret free.

Dear Father Mother God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change what I can (Me) and the wisdom to know the difference. I AM getting better everyday. Truly.......


God's dream is our Destiny...Light and Life. We can do it.
Spirituality + Technology= Balance into Light and Life.

A personal decree " That I will be harmless to myself and others"

www.heavenletters.org

[link to heartsongmeditation.wordpress.com (secure)]

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