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Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?

 
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Dad takes no action.

Lucifer is Action
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Bullshit!

God is action!

God is EVERYTHING.

The ones who don't see it are idiots indeed.
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I LOVE when my posts cause people to TAKE ACTION and reply with their TRUE Feelings.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Life is all around you.

Some are truthful. A lot are deceitful.

You have chosen your side.

Idiot.
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I choose my side moment to moment.

I am Both Sides.

And Neither Side.

Kind One.

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Re: Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
Research a lady named Kathy Kerr, she was taken out of the body and to heaven. She was revealed this about Lucifer, all also include scriptures, in italics.

Lucifer, had the ability to walk inside of God.

Thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

She states, the stones of fire, was the heart of God. God's love for us, was magnified by these stones, which created the rainbow around God.

A rainbow, resembling an emerald, encircled the throne.


The archangels, Michael, Gabriel, and Lucifer, each were leaders of a third of the angel.

And his tail swept away a third of the stars of heaven, and threw them to the earth.

Lucifer was in charge of praise / music. He had musical instruments literally built into his very being.

... the workmanship of thy tabrets [a musical instrument] and of thy flutes prepared in thee in the day thou was created.

Like God, who also had precious stones in him, so did Lucifer.

...every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald and the carbuncle, and gold.


This is why, he felt he was like God.

During praise and worship. He would stand inside of God. And magnify and glorify the praise and worship coming to God.

He felt this praise and worship coming to God, and wanted it for himself.

This was very beginning of the fall.
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What are Gabriel and Michael in charge of?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Lucifer, was in charge of the angels, that did praise / worship to God. These angels, also fell with him.

Michael, was in charge of the warrior angels.

Gabriel, was in charge of the rest, scribes angels, messengers, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26861263


Let me also mention this about this lady, Kat Kerr, who was revealed this.

Here's info that gives strong evidence, that she didn't merely imagined / hallucinated / made this up.

While in heaven, she came across several deceased people. She learned of highly specific information about these people, that she couldn't have possibly known about. After returning to Earth, she then went to these people's family members and shared the information. The people shocked and at times even crying, verified the information down to the exact details. In one instance, the information that was revealed, was only recently learned and confirmed in a girl's personal diary, who Kat saw in heaven. Also, the girl wasn't even a relative.
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Re: Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
You know, funny thing is open your eyes didn't even start the thread, yet he out comments everyone pretty much 2-1......you make your agenda too obvious, all one has to do is look at your history. Lol deny it in here all you want, there's some nifty people here that know what's up

Over and out
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You can't Out Top the Topper! lol
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


I expect the OP to respond to as many questions as possible. I get suspicious when the person makes the initial post and then never makes a single post after that.
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My Spirit tends to Outshine the rest.

You are free though to challenge my radiance lol
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Re: Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
He had Republican values.
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Re: Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
by two spirits, I meant it in the sense of "personalities". Dont mean to call God Almighty a spirit.
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Clarify Opie
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He had Republican values.
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cruise

(but american democrats are also conservatives compared to the rest of the world)
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You know, funny thing is open your eyes didn't even start the thread, yet he out comments everyone pretty much 2-1......you make your agenda too obvious, all one has to do is look at your history. Lol deny it in here all you want, there's some nifty people here that know what's up

Over and out
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You can't Out Top the Topper! lol
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


I expect the OP to respond to as many questions as possible. I get suspicious when the person makes the initial post and then never makes a single post after that.
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Open your eyes isn't the original poster in the first place.....

Yea, the "out topper" is a thread hijacker.
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Re: Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
What are Gabriel and Michael in charge of?
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Lucifer, was in charge of the angels, that did praise / worship to God. These angels, also fell with him.

Michael, was in charge of the warrior angels.

Gabriel, was in charge of the rest, scribes angels, messengers, etc.
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Cool!

Are those the only three or are there more?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


According to her, there's only 3 archangels. This was all that's revealed to her, so far.
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You know, funny thing is open your eyes didn't even start the thread, yet he out comments everyone pretty much 2-1......you make your agenda too obvious, all one has to do is look at your history. Lol deny it in here all you want, there's some nifty people here that know what's up

Over and out
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You can't Out Top the Topper! lol
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


I expect the OP to respond to as many questions as possible. I get suspicious when the person makes the initial post and then never makes a single post after that.
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Open your eyes isn't the original poster in the first place.....

Yea, the "out topper" is a thread hijacker.
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I stand corrected.
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Re: Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
Oh, and if Enoch is correct, lucifer and co rebelled because they dug the chicas here...

I would guess they grew to desire the sensual experiences humans have here... the loves, passions, tragedies of the free will God gives us here... it is probably quite seductive... all the emotions expressed... to us they seem quite real and meaningful... they often blind us to the real purpose of the experiences...

plus they resented having to watch and manage us for God without being allowed direct action and control...

lucifer was kept here as part of his punishment and because it served a useful purpose of essentially weeding out God's free will creations...

lucifer's prime objective seems to be control over us and destruction of as many of God's creations as possible... like a hardened convict might wish prison on those who are free...

:) Thread: John Lear may be wrong about Christ
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What are Gabriel and Michael in charge of?
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Lucifer, was in charge of the angels, that did praise / worship to God. These angels, also fell with him.

Michael, was in charge of the warrior angels.

Gabriel, was in charge of the rest, scribes angels, messengers, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26861263


Cool!

Are those the only three or are there more?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


According to her, there's only 3 archangels. This was all that's revealed to her, so far.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26861263


Cool!

Thanks for sharing her story.

hf

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Re: Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
Wow, did Lucifer rebeled ? realy ?

Never thought he? did :))

Maybe he? was bored or something and accepted the role :)
Anyway, all stays in the big family :)

But i like the stories about he's wings
Hahaha

hf
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Re: Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
Oh, and if Enoch is correct, lucifer and co rebelled because they dug the chicas here...

I would guess they grew to desire the sensual experiences humans have here... the loves, passions, tragedies of the free will God gives us here... it is probably quite seductive... all the emotions expressed... to us they seem quite real and meaningful... they often blind us to the real purpose of the experiences...

plus they resented having to watch and manage us for God without being allowed direct action and control...

lucifer was kept here as part of his punishment and because it served a useful purpose of essentially weeding out God's free will creations...

lucifer's prime objective seems to be control over us and destruction of as many of God's creations as possible... like a hardened convict might wish prison on those who are free...

:) Thread: John Lear may be wrong about Christ
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Lucifer or Satan? Earth is hell. We should not even be here. Satan tricked us into incarnating or did it by stealing our spirit..

Sounds like you're describing Satan.
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Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
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If you are talking about the great dragon or serpent, he was made that way from the beginning, for he was always a liar and murderer (John 8:44, KJV).

He was never a model being then went to free will and chose to be bad.

He was a defect from the beginning and then he created this world.

He was made, though he denies it, and he was made out of desire to "self emanate" from the self without the true One who is the source (the Barbelo where Yeshua comes from), hence the devil or who you speak of is made of light and darkness.

He was a mess so he made a mess, which is why the world is so fucked up.
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Exodus 20:5

thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God

So God himself admitted he is a jealous God.

This seem like creator and creature have conflicting traits.
One is Jealous and another is excedeengly Proud.

How do we reconcile two spirits with these seemingly antagonic characteristics?

Now, when Lucifer is refered as "that old serpent" more than one time, it feels like God really felt betrayed when Adam and Eve fell.

Now, when Elijah came, he gave the whole thing (the last 10 thousand years nonetheless) a pedagogic character. As if the whole point was to teach a lesson, and enlighten Lucifer and his followers.
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Just think it is a jewish book.

Look at how they dress till today, and compare to a brazilian biquini.

See who is fucked up more in the mind...
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You are brazilian so you know Raul Seixas.
Raul Seixas was one of the first channels of Luciferian philosophy since the baby boom generation.

Similar to Charles Manson perceiving the paradigm shift, except Raul Seixas decided to be a champion mover here on Brazil, just like the Elvis on US or the Beetles were on UK.

All of his songs speak through Lucifer point of view, like "I was born 10 thousand years ago" or the one that is called "Metamorphose Ambulante", wich is basically about change/freedom, and how human beings are subject to change (the new idea presented at the time)

He mocked the "crying rocks" (true christians) in another song and managed to change the perception to the point where to be normal (the current paradigm was to be christian) was to be crazy.

So how something was, or how something is now, is not any indicative by itself. If one, we should evaluate more important things. Christians choose the fruits. I dont know what critery would the Luciferians consider the most important to showcase the "best of their system". Probably for them it is yet to come.

Anyway, when you speak of Jews. Know that Jews were exterminated in the Holocaust mainly because they would not addapt to the idea of civilized europe. Herzel thought to subject jews to "baptism" on the Catholic Church as an strategy to integrate them socially and be more tolerable, but ultimatelly didnt worked out.

We all know how it ended. Same with the Protestants on south of Germany and the millions of Protestants on Russia during the bolchevik revolution.

So changing or not changing, by itself is not a valid point.
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Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
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If you are talking about the great dragon or serpent, he was made that way from the beginning, for he was always a liar and murderer (John 8:44, KJV).

He was never a model being then went to free will and chose to be bad.

He was a defect from the beginning and then he created this world.

He was made, though he denies it, and he was made out of desire to "self emanate" from the self without the true One who is the source (the Barbelo where Yeshua comes from), hence the devil or who you speak of is made of light and darkness.

He was a mess so he made a mess, which is why the world is so fucked up.
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Hahaha :))) Well said :))
So well that in fact i understood nothing at all :P

Are you or real ?

Or am i seeing just the light and the dark in you ?
Oh no, Lucifer, is that you ?

Greetings, liar :D

Hahaha :))
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Research a lady named Kathy Kerr, she was taken out of the body and to heaven. She was revealed this about Lucifer, all also include scriptures, in italics.

Lucifer, had the ability to walk inside of God.

Thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

She states, the stones of fire, was the heart of God. God's love for us, was magnified by these stones, which created the rainbow around God.

A rainbow, resembling an emerald, encircled the throne.


The archangels, Michael, Gabriel, and Lucifer, each were leaders of a third of the angel.

And his tail swept away a third of the stars of heaven, and threw them to the earth.

Lucifer was in charge of praise / music. He had musical instruments literally built into his very being.

... the workmanship of thy tabrets [a musical instrument] and of thy flutes prepared in thee in the day thou was created.

Like God, who also had precious stones in him, so did Lucifer.

...every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald and the carbuncle, and gold.


This is why, he felt he was like God.

During praise and worship. He would stand inside of God. And magnify and glorify the praise and worship coming to God.

He felt this praise and worship coming to God, and wanted it for himself.

This was very beginning of the fall.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26861263


What are Gabriel and Michael in charge of?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Lucifer, was in charge of the angels, that did praise / worship to God. These angels, also fell with him.

Michael, was in charge of the warrior angels.

Gabriel, was in charge of the rest, scribes angels, messengers, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26861263


Let me also mention this about this lady, Kat Kerr, who was revealed this.

Here's info that gives strong evidence, that she didn't merely imagined / hallucinated / made this up.

While in heaven, she came across several deceased people. She learned of highly specific information about these people, that she couldn't have possibly known about. After returning to Earth, she then went to these people's family members and shared the information. The people shocked and at times even crying, verified the information down to the exact details. In one instance, the information that was revealed, was only recently learned and confirmed in a girl's personal diary, who Kat saw in heaven. Also, the girl wasn't even a relative.
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Here's more about this specific account:





You can contact the deceased girl's family members, to verify and back up what Kat is saying.

Also here's something interesting.

Many who seen Jesus (in an NDE or taken out of the body) all state he has blue eyes.

In addition, many who state, they went to heaven, that flowers sing.

Kat, also confirms both pieces of information. That Jesus has blue eyes, and that flowers sing in heaven.

She also states, she seen the 4 living creatures around God's throne, described in the Bible.

This little 4 year old girl, taken to heaven, also confirms seeing the 4 living creatures around God. This little girl also confirms, the plants are alive there. She stated the grass was speaking to her. In addition like Kat, she comes across information about the deceased, that was unknown to her. After research, this information was then verified to be true down to the exact details. This includes the information of a little boy that was murdered. She knew his name, and described how he died in exact details.



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You can't Out Top the Topper! lol
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I expect the OP to respond to as many questions as possible. I get suspicious when the person makes the initial post and then never makes a single post after that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22321742


Open your eyes isn't the original poster in the first place.....

Yea, the "out topper" is a thread hijacker.
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Consider me Mankind's Greatest Catalyst in their Evolutionary Journey.
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You know, illusions of grandeur are a well known symptom of narcissistic personality disorder......

Really if anyone wanted to get the full spliel on open your eyes, all you'd have to do is read this entire thread.
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Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
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Honestly, its a made up story you fucking child.
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Such ignorance these days. If you honestly don't believe in good and evil you are truly blind. It is around us every second of every day. Some folks are filled with darkness, others filled with light. Lucifer is VERY much real, same as our Lord Above! I'm not a Bibletard by any means but when people deny the obvious it is sad.

I weep for your soul. For just a second.
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Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
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Cosmic teenager thinks he knows better than dad.
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Dad created him to have that attitude. So where does the fault truly lie?

In any event, I find the much more fascinating story revolves around all the idiot humans who think they know anything at all about The Fall.

Where do you think you came from? If it wasn't for that bit of rebellion, you wouldn't even exist.
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I expect the OP to respond to as many questions as possible. I get suspicious when the person makes the initial post and then never makes a single post after that.
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Open your eyes isn't the original poster in the first place.....

Yea, the "out topper" is a thread hijacker.
 Quoting: Then obody 26629538


Consider me Mankind's Greatest Catalyst in their Evolutionary Journey.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


You know, illusions of grandeur are a well known symptom of narcissistic personality disorder......

Really if anyone wanted to get the full spliel on open your eyes, all you'd have to do is read this entire thread.
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I was Genetically Engineered that way. :)
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Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
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Honestly, its a made up story you fucking child.
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Such ignorance these days. If you honestly don't believe in good and evil you are truly blind. It is around us every second of every day. Some folks are filled with darkness, others filled with light. Lucifer is VERY much real, same as our Lord Above! I'm not a Bibletard by any means but when people deny the obvious it is sad.

I weep for your soul. For just a second.
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You are Lucifer and you are Christ.
And you are Blind too.

I weep no for your soul. Don't spend a second on this de-visionary thoughts :-D

Be Love !

hf
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I was Genetically Engineered that way. :)
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Please expand that idea :)

Is fascinating for me.

Please !

hf
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I was Genetically Engineered that way. :)
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Please expand that idea :)

Is fascinating for me.

Please !

hf
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I was Genetically Engineered to have a body that is Powerful Enough to hold the Spirit of Lucifer
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I was Genetically Engineered that way. :)
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Please expand that idea :)

Is fascinating for me.

Please !

hf
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My DNA is not human.

It's more Alien.

My Mind thinks more like a computer.

My Energy has the ability to influence mass Energies around me.

And I can put audiences in a trance like leaders of the past could.

And I can implant thoughts in the mass subconsciousness.

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The truth is the majority have not investigated what really happened. When God the Father created Man in his image he told the angels to bow before his image. The majority did but Lucifer said that he would not bow before a creation that was of clay/dirt when he was created by spirit/fire because he felt he was above Man he refused to bow, which is why he has done all evil things against humanity, which he hates because we are the image of the creator and his fall was due to not bowing or paying respect to Man GOD's image. You can find this info in the lost books of Adam and Eve 1 and 2 just do a quick search read for yourself
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I was Genetically Engineered that way. :)
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Please expand that idea :)

Is fascinating for me.

Please !

hf
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I was Genetically Engineered to have a body that is Powerful Enough to hold the Spirit of Lucifer
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


We all have that body.
We all can hold the spirit of Lucifer.
We all can learn to train our Dragons(s)

So why are you better than me ?

hiding2
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I was Genetically Engineered that way. :)
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Please expand that idea :)

Is fascinating for me.

Please !

hf
 Quoting: Avalonia 9709833


My DNA is not human.

It's more Alien.

My Mind thinks more like a computer.

My Energy has the ability to influence mass Energies around me.

And I can put audiences in trance like leaders of the past could.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes



Yet, you're not the only one that can do this.

I suggest that all Nobodies move on the same hill :-D

And i was geneticaly modified to love you all :p

Nananana nanaa :-D
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Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?
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it is simple.

Lucifer has many 'defects'

first, he hates authority

second, he is irresponsible

third, in order to compensate for his self inflicted pain, he blames others

fourth, he serves only one being, HIMSELF. and at any COST to others.

so....he rebelled...JUST AS MOST HUMANS DO NOW.

how many of you, here, now, are angered by posts here that talk of 'God'??????

well? you know the anger of Lucifer because you follow him.
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I was Genetically Engineered that way. :)
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Please expand that idea :)

Is fascinating for me.

Please !

hf
 Quoting: Avalonia 9709833


I was Genetically Engineered to have a body that is Powerful Enough to hold the Spirit of Lucifer
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


We all have that body.
We all can hold the spirit of Lucifer.
We all can learn to train our Dragons(s)

So why are you better than me ?

hiding2
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Because I was bred to be and hold the spirit of The Christ

The Second Coming

hf

The Bringer of Light

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