Honestly, why do you think Lucifer rebelled?

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lucifer rebelled because it wanted to be God. There is only one God. Read the first commandment. The process has been in reverse since the rebellion. The Lord's Prayer says, "Thy Kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth AS it is in Heaven." Also, says, "Give us this day our daily bread."

What is happening here on this earth is a reflection of what occurred in heaven. Lucifer's works are an exercise in futility because it is all for loss. The system fails because it is wrought with the false promises and trappings that are temporal and self-serving. As lightning it will come crashing to earth in its continued descent, and as lucifer continues to unwind with its hoodwinked following, the fiery furnace awaits all of those of eternal darkness after the final judgment. They will return to unlife with no name in unsingularity in an all consuming black hole which is basically the fruits of the dark lusts' labor. The book of the dead and the akashic records will never be validated as the spirit of the antichrist tries to seal all with the mark of the beast in this false space-time matrix.

lucifer knows the battle is lost, and in the end wants nothing. Words or acronyms with UN are clues to the effort. The effort of the ones who want to be saved should be to pray for salvation and already ask thanks for an eternal name in our heavenly Father's Book of Life. The name you have now in this three dimensional prison that is rendered in all caps and subject to maritime law is not that name. It is false like the program darkness tries to validate in your being. Pray to have your eyes and ears opened to the the truth, the light and the way of Jesus Christ.

The only way to escape this end product of the heart is to accept Jesus Christ as the bridge to eternity. The last baptism is by fire. Those who accept Christ's eternal love will pass through this fire unscathed and stand anew before the one true God.

The daily bread is to remind you that it is not necessary to store up vast wealth on this earth at the expense of others. It is not the one true God's design. When the heart is attuned through Christ, God provides. You need to have faith. There is a major effort by darkness to stop the awakening of the multitude and the 144,000. It is for naught. Our Lord Jesus Christ's ultimate and final victory is at hand. Praise be to him.

Lucy!

5th Dimensional failure, and "a diamond in the rough" so to speak.

Baptism by fire?

This doesnt sound right.

So is God. It's the biggest conspiracy of all. Still carefully hidden away by most of the Main Stream religions.
It does not make any scientific sense to equate 'god' to the male. If sciencists had to argue on a theory of god's sexuality they would have to go with female.

The Aeon Sophia's awareness got scrambled across the whole frequency spectrum.

We as organic life have been slowly knitting together and recombining the lost fragments..........................except for those elements that refuse reconciliation and will not bow down to the smart monkeys.

In Russia nobody gets rebelled. And we have our own Lucifer Vladimir.

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but it's wrong.....If you people will go to the King-James version of the Bible and look up the "War in Heaven" you will see that god asked Jesus Christ and Satan to put forth a plan to have all the spirits that were to be sent to Earth, one day,will return home to Father in Heaven.

Satan chose a plan that did not allow a person on Earth to have his free agency to chose right from wrong and therefore could do not do wrong and will return to the father.
The Father asked Jesus for his plan and Jesus described his plan that will allow a person on Earth to have and use his Free Agency knowing that some will do good and some will do bad but in the end the majority will return home to the father.

The Father chose Jesus plan and rejected Satan's plan so Satan having the power to do so, took 1/3 of the host of Heaven with him and fell from Fathers Grace.

THIS IS AN ABRIDGED VERSION OF THE STORY SO GO CHECK IT OUT FOR YOURSELF!

For the chaff, it is consuming.

someone has image star of Lucifer?

That would be a continually eroding image to a single unpoint of unsingularity ripped apart with loss of identity, belief, image, etc (cue the bottomless pit). The fiery furnace consumes the victim(s) in abject loneliness, with fear and madness in eternal fiery torment.

At present, he tries to be the spiritual moon. A dead object of sort which for some odd reason is without name. What other heavenly body is unnamed? Hence you have a false reflection, the light bearer in darkness. Sonoma means valley of the moon. This is his attempt to to rip the Son of Man apart.

Last Edited by Jesus Christ is the way on 11/06/2012 11:12 AM

i'm jumping in here late, but it seems that Lucifer rebelled for a few reasons. the first one was that he felt his position was threatened. when he realized that God was planning to create mankind (who would rank above the angels and be in God's own image) Lucifer decided to attempt to maintain his own position in the infinite realms. He attempted to rise above God and forge his own way.

Lucifer was not alone in this. He took 1/3 of the angels with him and launched a war campaign.

Here's the problem:
God knows what is best for everyone and everything involved. There is always good reason and divine providence for all of His decisions and order.

Why didn't God just destroy Lucifer and the angels that sided with him? God will not go back on His creation.

Lucifer tried to overthrow God's Heaven and was defeated. He was sent to Earth, the place that he once desired but now hates. He was banished here. And now, in his fury, is set to destroy it.

Interesting note: Lucifer is still under God's command to aid mankind to reach their full potential, which is a station higher than his own. That has not changed (the command). He has not been relieved of that duty. God will not go back on His intent. But, Lucifer (who's taken on many names now and none of them good) hates what he is commanded to do and rebels.

Another interesting note: Satan attempts to get mankind to think exactly like him - to rebel against God, believe yourself to not need God and to be above God. but, the important thing to realize is that Satan knows the consequences of that thinking and how it leads to destruction. He is already condemned and wants to take all of mankind with him.

He doesn't maintain that deception because he thinks he has something to build upon or that this campaign will produce fruit. He already knows it means annihilation, which is the quickest way to accomplish his task - the annihilation of mankind.

Last Edited by Salt on 11/06/2012 11:46 AM

another thing about Lucifer's station - he lost his rank and station with the fall, but this in no way means his is not allowed in Heaven. The only thing lost was his position.

Zechariah 3:1-2
And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him. 2 And the Lord said unto Satan, The Lord rebuke thee, O Satan; even the Lord that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?


Job 1:6-12
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.
7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. 8 And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?
9 Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought? 10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.

11 But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face. 12 And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the Lord.

Last Edited by Salt on 11/06/2012 12:03 PM

hmmm...

This part is interesting for me.

Can you detail a little, please ?

Why didn't he took 2/3 of angels with him? ?

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he want to be like the Creator, only he could not create souls. He could not make the angels he needed for his administration either, which is what the Creator Sons do when they establish a new universe. Some of you think Gabriel is an Arch angel. He is NOT. He is the first Created Son of MIchael of Nebadonand Nebadonia and is thus the Chief executive of our local universe. There is but one Gabriel in every universe and so its a job title not a name actually. Every Local Universe has THE GABRIEL . There are 700,000 local universes do math 1 X 700,000

Ditto the Creator Sons, 700.000 of them too and 700.000 Mother Spirits.

he did not take even 1/3 of the angles with him. He took a bunch of them with him from Satania but not even 1/3, there are so many...... Lucifer was governor of over 600 planets at the time he ruined his life and lots of others. Only 37 planets went into the rebellion so that should tell you that he did not take 1/3 of the angels of even his government with him.

Last Edited by God Loves ALL on 11/06/2012 05:15 PM

Yeah, thank you for your details.
But frankly, there is a pattern in this "reality" or universe ruled somehow by 1\3 and 2\3 percentage.

Maybe this is not telling you much and you can discount what i am saying, proving that old texts are or your knowledge tell something else.
I won't disagree with you.

All i want to do is try to understand why this pattern is repeating all over.
If 1/3 or 2\3 doesn't ring you a bell, maybe 33 or 666 will make ou wonder about things.

Thank you again for you opinion.

Not sure why 1/3 went with. Maybe they were all in a lower charge or rank? Whatever the reason, Lucifer got them to go along with it, and they did. He got them to "follow" him. They work for him. Maybe he was in command over them on some level. Don't know.

Because Lucifer is the most complete idiot that's ever existed.

Nasty bump to the head eh?

I dont think they volunteered.

God makes some pots for honor and others for disohonor.