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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26851286 United Kingdom 11/04/2012 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lucifer = god's jester. Rebelling: futile, hilarious for god. From Lucifer's perspective: God = capable of making humans ONLY good; leaving them with free will, but only free will to choose from GOOD, with zero variety of evil to choose from. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22321742 United States 11/04/2012 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a shame that many do not understand that Lucifer and Satan are two different entities. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22321742 Satan rules the earth and created all on it. And in your belief system, who would Lucifer be? An uncreated spirit sent by the uncreated God to free mankind from Satan and his prison, Earth. |
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TSWB21 User ID: 1267719 United States 11/04/2012 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at all the stupid humans.... He didn't go against God , he just explained to God how stupid humans are.God said give them time. Satan didn't like the idea, and told Michael he was leaving heaven. Once God see's what he has done was wrong , mankind and aliens running them are toast. |
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Being Mindful User ID: 21615111 United States 11/04/2012 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And in one reply you've lost all credibility; why would the creator god worry about how "quickly" his creations progress when time is something the creator god himself, created and knows all that was and will happen? Quoting: The nobody 26629538 I know it's fun making the devil seem good, but no bro don't fuck people's heads up like that. The devil did it because he could, because there is nothing else better to do in a universe that is tailored to experience and in reality has no good or bad, just is. So, he took advantage of our situation beyond the normal means of doing so, creating popular religion to worship himself (biggest trick the devil pulled off is convincing you "god" and the devil are different, they are one in the same in terms of popular religion). Ok I will reply to the full quote this time. 1. Don't try to assume you know the mind of the Creator God. 2. People need their preconceived notions smashed as many are basing their lives on LIES. 3. The Devil did not take advantage of the situation here on Earth. People who WORSHIP the Devil do. They wanted more Power. And power seeking men will do anything for power. 4. The Evil hearts of Men is the Real Evil here not the Devil. Don't blame the Devil for the Free Will Choices of Mankind. 1. Mosiach; I do, 2. Agreed 3. Is that not one and the same?? Listen to it, "The Devil did not take advantage of the situation here on Earth. People who WORSHIP the Devil do. They wanted more Power. And power seeking men will do anything for power". Are they not following in the footsteps of their leader????? 4. The devil has the exact choice of free will to do what he will with his power, and he chooses to use it to serve himself. Good and evil is not limited to human fucking kind; it's the catalyst that brings progression. Until you meet Lucifer in person, it is best not to prejudge him. and who is lucifer? Enki? www.heavenletters.org |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22321742 United States 11/04/2012 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a shame that many do not understand that Lucifer and Satan are two different entities. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22321742 Satan rules the earth and created all on it. And in your belief system, who would Lucifer be? An uncreated spirit sent by the uncreated God to free mankind from Satan and his prison, Earth. Where did you learn that from? It's gnostic. Primal gnosticism. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26861263 United States 11/04/2012 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Research a lady named Kathy Kerr, she was taken out of the body and to heaven. She was revealed this about Lucifer, all also include scriptures, in italics. Lucifer, had the ability to walk inside of God. Thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. She states, the stones of fire, was the heart of God. God's love for us, was magnified by these stones, which created the rainbow around God. A rainbow, resembling an emerald, encircled the throne. The archangels, Michael, Gabriel, and Lucifer, each were leaders of a third of the angel. And his tail swept away a third of the stars of heaven, and threw them to the earth. Lucifer was in charge of praise / music. He had musical instruments literally built into his very being. ... the workmanship of thy tabrets [a musical instrument] and of thy flutes prepared in thee in the day thou was created. Like God, who also had precious stones in him, so did Lucifer. ...every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald and the carbuncle, and gold. This is why, he felt he was like God. During praise and worship. He would stand inside of God. And magnify and glorify the praise and worship coming to God. He felt this praise and worship coming to God, and wanted it for himself. This was very beginning of the fall. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26765356 United States 11/04/2012 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | big words from the unaware... I would be careful denying lucifer...he is less tolerant than God by far... and he pretty well knows everything going on here... this website is one of his hubs, I would guess... no social engineering without him, seems like... God may be in charge, but denying both God and lucifer is like asking for trouble, IMO... :) Thread: John Lear may be wrong about Christ |
Then obody User ID: 26629538 United States 11/04/2012 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know, funny thing is open your eyes didn't even start the thread, yet he out comments everyone pretty much 2-1......you make your agenda too obvious, all one has to do is look at your history. Lol deny it in here all you want, there's some nifty people here that know what's up Over and out |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27003095 Brazil 11/04/2012 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Elijah came and called Lucifer a baby, an expoiled child, and he seemed to give away the plot to us. I wonder if Lucifer knows what Elijah typed of him. The Bible itself seems to take indirect bites at a specific type of behaviour Like when Salomon describes the 7 things God hates, seem to be directed to Lucifer. You know when God asks Lucifer where he had been going? Why would God care to ask? Looked like some pedagogic rethoric questions a Father does to a child who just had done "art". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22321742 United States 11/04/2012 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22321742 An uncreated spirit sent by the uncreated God to free mankind from Satan and his prison, Earth. Where did you learn that from? It's gnostic. Primal gnosticism. Cool! After studying it, it's what makes the most sense to me. Check out the Cathars. Easy to see why they were slaughtered after you read about gnosticism. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26765356 United States 11/04/2012 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | big words from the unaware... I would be careful denying lucifer...he is less tolerant than God by far... and he pretty well knows everything going on here... this website is one of his hubs, I would guess... no social engineering without him, seems like... God may be in charge, but denying both God and lucifer is like asking for trouble, IMO... :) Thread: John Lear may be wrong about Christ but then, with your nihilism you may already unwittingly belong to lucifer and you have nothing to worry about, literally, nothing... but, you might want to research some of the peeps on my thread who were involved in secret societies and lucifer's plan, which is all around us and does not appear to be evolving us anywhere, just less free will and more technocratic enslavement... this is only possible by attitudes like yours, IMO... you give up your real power here by denying the supernatural element that actually runs things... according to many... :) Thread: John Lear may be wrong about Christ |
JD User ID: 26196597 United States 11/04/2012 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a story that needs to be told It's you You're a star Call you in the morning You got it. First thing. Free will, right? Vanity... ...definitely your favorite sin. You just made the biggest mistake of your life! You swore you would! You'll burn for this! It's time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22321742 United States 11/04/2012 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know, funny thing is open your eyes didn't even start the thread, yet he out comments everyone pretty much 2-1......you make your agenda too obvious, all one has to do is look at your history. Lol deny it in here all you want, there's some nifty people here that know what's up Quoting: Then obody 26629538 Over and out You can't Out Top the Topper! lol I expect the OP to respond to as many questions as possible. I get suspicious when the person makes the initial post and then never makes a single post after that. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27003095 Brazil 11/04/2012 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exodus 20:5 thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God So God himself admitted he is a jealous God. This seem like creator and creature have conflicting traits. One is Jealous and another is excedeengly Proud. How do we reconcile two spirits with these seemingly antagonic characteristics? Now, when Lucifer is refered as "that old serpent" more than one time, it feels like God really felt betrayed when Adam and Eve fell. Now, when Elijah came, he gave the whole thing (the last 10 thousand years nonetheless) a pedagogic character. As if the whole point was to teach a lesson, and enlighten Lucifer and his followers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26861263 United States 11/04/2012 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Research a lady named Kathy Kerr, she was taken out of the body and to heaven. She was revealed this about Lucifer, all also include scriptures, in italics. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26861263 Lucifer, had the ability to walk inside of God. Thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. She states, the stones of fire, was the heart of God. God's love for us, was magnified by these stones, which created the rainbow around God. A rainbow, resembling an emerald, encircled the throne. The archangels, Michael, Gabriel, and Lucifer, each were leaders of a third of the angel. And his tail swept away a third of the stars of heaven, and threw them to the earth. Lucifer was in charge of praise / music. He had musical instruments literally built into his very being. ... the workmanship of thy tabrets [a musical instrument] and of thy flutes prepared in thee in the day thou was created. Like God, who also had precious stones in him, so did Lucifer. ...every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald and the carbuncle, and gold. This is why, he felt he was like God. During praise and worship. He would stand inside of God. And magnify and glorify the praise and worship coming to God. He felt this praise and worship coming to God, and wanted it for himself. This was very beginning of the fall. What are Gabriel and Michael in charge of? Lucifer, was in charge of the angels, that did praise / worship to God. These angels, also fell with him. Michael, was in charge of the warrior angels. Gabriel, was in charge of the rest, scribes angels, messengers, etc. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26904478 Brazil 11/04/2012 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bullshit! God is action! God is EVERYTHING. The ones who don't see it are idiots indeed. I LOVE when my posts cause people to TAKE ACTION and reply with their TRUE Feelings. Life is all around you. Some are truthful. A lot are deceitful. You have chosen your side. Idiot. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26904478 Brazil 11/04/2012 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exodus 20:5 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27003095 thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God So God himself admitted he is a jealous God. This seem like creator and creature have conflicting traits. One is Jealous and another is excedeengly Proud. How do we reconcile two spirits with these seemingly antagonic characteristics? Now, when Lucifer is refered as "that old serpent" more than one time, it feels like God really felt betrayed when Adam and Eve fell. Now, when Elijah came, he gave the whole thing (the last 10 thousand years nonetheless) a pedagogic character. As if the whole point was to teach a lesson, and enlighten Lucifer and his followers. Just think it is a jewish book. Look at how they dress till today, and compare to a brazilian biquini. See who is fucked up more in the mind... |
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Then obody User ID: 26629538 United States 11/04/2012 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know, funny thing is open your eyes didn't even start the thread, yet he out comments everyone pretty much 2-1......you make your agenda too obvious, all one has to do is look at your history. Lol deny it in here all you want, there's some nifty people here that know what's up Quoting: Then obody 26629538 Over and out You can't Out Top the Topper! lol I expect the OP to respond to as many questions as possible. I get suspicious when the person makes the initial post and then never makes a single post after that. Open your eyes isn't the original poster in the first place..... Yea, the "out topper" is a thread hijacker. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26861263 United States 11/04/2012 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Research a lady named Kathy Kerr, she was taken out of the body and to heaven. She was revealed this about Lucifer, all also include scriptures, in italics. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26861263 Lucifer, had the ability to walk inside of God. Thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. She states, the stones of fire, was the heart of God. God's love for us, was magnified by these stones, which created the rainbow around God. A rainbow, resembling an emerald, encircled the throne. The archangels, Michael, Gabriel, and Lucifer, each were leaders of a third of the angel. And his tail swept away a third of the stars of heaven, and threw them to the earth. Lucifer was in charge of praise / music. He had musical instruments literally built into his very being. ... the workmanship of thy tabrets [a musical instrument] and of thy flutes prepared in thee in the day thou was created. Like God, who also had precious stones in him, so did Lucifer. ...every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald and the carbuncle, and gold. This is why, he felt he was like God. During praise and worship. He would stand inside of God. And magnify and glorify the praise and worship coming to God. He felt this praise and worship coming to God, and wanted it for himself. This was very beginning of the fall. What are Gabriel and Michael in charge of? Lucifer, was in charge of the angels, that did praise / worship to God. These angels, also fell with him. Michael, was in charge of the warrior angels. Gabriel, was in charge of the rest, scribes angels, messengers, etc. Let me also mention this about this lady, Kat Kerr, who was revealed this. Here's info that gives strong evidence, that she didn't merely imagined / hallucinated / made this up. While in heaven, she came across several deceased people. She learned of highly specific information about these people, that she couldn't have possibly known about. After returning to Earth, she then went to these people's family members and shared the information. The people shocked and at times even crying, verified the information down to the exact details. In one instance, the information that was revealed, was only recently learned and confirmed in a girl's personal diary, who Kat saw in heaven. Also, the girl wasn't even a relative. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26861263 United States 11/04/2012 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lucifer, was in charge of the angels, that did praise / worship to God. These angels, also fell with him. Michael, was in charge of the warrior angels. Gabriel, was in charge of the rest, scribes angels, messengers, etc. Cool! Are those the only three or are there more? According to her, there's only 3 archangels. This was all that's revealed to her, so far. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22321742 United States 11/04/2012 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know, funny thing is open your eyes didn't even start the thread, yet he out comments everyone pretty much 2-1......you make your agenda too obvious, all one has to do is look at your history. Lol deny it in here all you want, there's some nifty people here that know what's up Quoting: Then obody 26629538 Over and out You can't Out Top the Topper! lol I expect the OP to respond to as many questions as possible. I get suspicious when the person makes the initial post and then never makes a single post after that. Open your eyes isn't the original poster in the first place..... Yea, the "out topper" is a thread hijacker. I stand corrected. |