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Anonymous Coward
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You hate the government and Red Cross, yet you expect them to solve a gigantic disaster for you and others within a week?

I can see why you only have $300: You're a dumbass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16598644


Ummmmm, arent you one of those people who gave GW Bush a ration of shit because Bourbon Street wasnt swinging again within a week?

Bottom line is the government is meddlesome, inefficient, and wasteful at best. Promise you Utopia, but deliver nothing.
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Just an update from Long Beach, NY, which is different than Long Beach Island (LBI), NJ, although both got hammered by Sandy.

First, while there have been reports on the radio that Nat Guard is stopping people on the bridge, it isn't true at least on the bridge I have been using. You can drive right in and out. I think the stories are disinfo to keep the looters away, but they aren't true.

Different parts of the island have different types of damage, but overall, the island is uninhabitable. No water and no power, with the latter out for potentially more than a month. Most everyone has evacuated, although you see people during the day ripping out carpet, throwing out contaminated furniture, and on occasion, sitting on the sidewalk weeping.

The Nat Guard is only around sunup to sundown, which is weird since they are supposed to be stopping looters. But they do have truckloads of water and MREs. I will agree with OP that the agencies and gov people generally are not doing shit. They put the big X with stats on each house, like Katrina, but with a sticker rather than spray paint. But not much else. LB had street cleaners rolling down the street today, but it was ludicrous, as they washed down streets that were piled several feet high on either side with thrown out furniture, carpeting, drywall and flooring.
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Just an update from Long Beach, NY, which is different than Long Beach Island (LBI), NJ, although both got hammered by Sandy.

First, while there have been reports on the radio that Nat Guard is stopping people on the bridge, it isn't true at least on the bridge I have been using. You can drive right in and out. I think the stories are disinfo to keep the looters away, but they aren't true.

Different parts of the island have different types of damage, but overall, the island is uninhabitable. No water and no power, with the latter out for potentially more than a month. Most everyone has evacuated, although you see people during the day ripping out carpet, throwing out contaminated furniture, and on occasion, sitting on the sidewalk weeping.

The Nat Guard is only around sunup to sundown, which is weird since they are supposed to be stopping looters. But they do have truckloads of water and MREs. I will agree with OP that the agencies and gov people generally are not doing shit. They put the big X with stats on each house, like Katrina, but with a sticker rather than spray paint. But not much else. LB had street cleaners rolling down the street today, but it was ludicrous, as they washed down streets that were piled several feet high on either side with thrown out furniture, carpeting, drywall and flooring.
 Quoting: CrazyEyesThreadKilla


sounds like mad fucking max, how many people were evacuated ?

where are they living now?

crazy shit dude
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11/04/2012 11:15 PM
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they are using gas lines as an excuse for 2 months, i imagine they will get the power back sooner than that.
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You have a creative mind, that is naturally antithetical to our inept Government.
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11/04/2012 11:16 PM
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gentrification, they are just using this to enact some plan they have had in the works for a while
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They're letting in people temporarily on Monday..

[link to www.philly.com]

If I was in this situation and desperate, I would car top launch a kayak from the west shore of the bay, make about a 1 1/2 mile paddle across the bay onto LBI, then secure the kayak until I could drive my car back across at a later time to retrieve it. The guard can't patrol the entire bay coastline so it's easy enough to sneak in this way....only if you're desperate though.
 Quoting: Generation Doom

Have you been to the Jersey shore lately. I was there this past summer and there are at least 5 levels of security starting with Coast Guard ( off shore) , Beach patrol in Sea Doos ( 100 yards off shore), police patrol in boats up to 500 yards off shore. Then you have actual police and beach patrols on the beach 24/7. It was a serious police state. Add to that the National Guard and State Police.
 Quoting: McTimmins


No It's been years since I've been to LBI, visited every summer there as a kid. There was always a coast guard presence, but I don't remember it being that bad.. hiding
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they are using gas lines as an excuse for 2 months, i imagine they will get the power back sooner than that.
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You have a creative mind, that is naturally antithetical to our inept Government.
 Quoting: Children of the Atom

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they are using gas lines as an excuse for 2 months, i imagine they will get the power back sooner than that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3159766


You have a creative mind, that is naturally antithetical to our inept Government.
 Quoting: Children of the Atom


thank you, i just dont understand the nanny government denying people to get by on their own wits.
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Just an update from Long Beach, NY, which is different than Long Beach Island (LBI), NJ, although both got hammered by Sandy.

First, while there have been reports on the radio that Nat Guard is stopping people on the bridge, it isn't true at least on the bridge I have been using. You can drive right in and out. I think the stories are disinfo to keep the looters away, but they aren't true.

Different parts of the island have different types of damage, but overall, the island is uninhabitable. No water and no power, with the latter out for potentially more than a month. Most everyone has evacuated, although you see people during the day ripping out carpet, throwing out contaminated furniture, and on occasion, sitting on the sidewalk weeping.

The Nat Guard is only around sunup to sundown, which is weird since they are supposed to be stopping looters. But they do have truckloads of water and MREs. I will agree with OP that the agencies and gov people generally are not doing shit. They put the big X with stats on each house, like Katrina, but with a sticker rather than spray paint. But not much else. LB had street cleaners rolling down the street today, but it was ludicrous, as they washed down streets that were piled several feet high on either side with thrown out furniture, carpeting, drywall and flooring.
 Quoting: CrazyEyesThreadKilla


sounds like mad fucking max, how many people were evacuated ?

where are they living now?

crazy shit dude
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18282096


Everywhere. There are active groups on FB and other social media trying to find homes for people. We took some friends into our home and realistically expect them to be with us through Xmas, but there are thousands of people in LBNY alone that are looking for homes. Across all the affected coastal areas, it must be well into the tens of thousands.

Most of these people also lost their cars to boot.

It's not Mad Max at all, as people are reaching out everywhere to help each other, but it should be a lesson to anyone who thinks big government has the answers in cases like this. The government has actually done a pretty decent job overall, especially local government, but 99.5% of the progress so far is due to people getting their hands dirty to help each other clean and eat and stay warm and survive.
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I watch this comedienne on YouTube, she lives in the area. This is her newest vid stating at the end that the situation persists as of today.

By the end of the vid the tone totally changes and it's pretty easy to tell she's not pippy about it anymore.

[link to www.youtube.com]

 Quoting: Mister Obvious


These people need some wilderness training... learn how to backpack. Go fucking camping once in awhile. I am STILL amazed at how unprepared these people actually were.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1148772


She cut in line for fuel, twice!?

She calls the guy directing traffic an idiot.

It makes her really mad to read a book by candlelight.

She does recognize some have it worse. Actually her attitude improves a bit as it goes on. Maybe some more hardship will help her mature further, she needs it.
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tens of thousands out on the streets and shelters, and they are keeping people from their homes on made up excuses?
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11/04/2012 11:45 PM
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C'mon, this Storm happened just a few Days
ago and you are crying like someone who
lost the whole Family, the House+ Money
and your Freedom!

We here have 400.000 People who lost
nearly everything but to complain already,
(like you do)
after such a short Time is not what they do!
 Quoting: the mighty Atom


Good point, Japan. I think about your people everyday. No one is more dignified than the Japanese.
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11/04/2012 11:50 PM
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You hate the government and Red Cross, yet you expect them to solve a gigantic disaster for you and others within a week?

I can see why you only have $300: You're a dumbass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16598644


Hey, at least he can go to a shelter, won't even have that option under Rombot. Romney "go stay with your parents"
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11/04/2012 11:54 PM
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Why did you leave your home in the first place if it was only flooding?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5666725


lmao...first everyone bitches at people for not evacuating, then they bitch at you if you do...geesh...tough crowd...bunch of unhappy people in the world who are only made happy by other people's misery...;( you cannot have it both ways...dude just wants to go home...plain and simple...he did what he was supposed to, what everyone here was telling people to do and gets reemed for it!!! UGH!!!

wtf
 Quoting: Abi ~


Very true. I just don't get why OP made light of the situation. My donation area this week was West Haven/Long Beach area and I know it is fucked I've seen live video from our transport group. Anyway....
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im from long beach island nj i stayed for the storm and left a couple days after.... there was barely any damage there just in 2 seperate parts of the island and everything is fine now there is no dangerous conditions


they are saying they wont be letting people return to there homes for 2 months

what the mother fuck i live and work there i only have 300 dollars and there is NO FUCKING AID AVAILABLE TO ME i have applied with fema and a sba loan and they just say wait for us to contact you

the only aid is to go stay at a shelter well fuck that femas budget is how many hundreds of billions?? red cross gets how many billions donated to it?? and the best they have for me is to go stay on a used cot thats been cleaned since the last person used it?

thats wonderful your stopping me from going to my house... stopping me from working and have no financial aid for me?? just a used fucking cot???

now i know why guns are illegal


and btw fema and red cross aint doing fucking shit for recovery its all people that live around here DOING EVERY FUCKING THING
LITERALLY THE ONLY THING ANY AGENCY IS DOING IS PROVIDING USED COTS TO SLEEP ON THAT HAVE BEEN CLEANED


like i said now i realize why guns are illegal gives them power to do whatever the fuck they want and u cant do shit about it
 Quoting: FUCK GOVERNMENT 26867127


Eat your brothers and sisters if you run our of food.

Simple.
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11/05/2012 12:58 AM
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ok ive said ten times the first two videos posted are of the same spot on the island.... the spot i said took damage its at the very end of the island.... its no more then 300ft long.... there is another spot in north beach that took a little damage also.... the 3rd and fourth videos are of flooding right after storm wich is now gone....

also electricty is restored on the island.... water was shut off but now back on ( not damaged was physically shut off)

the point is they are stopping people that live there from returning to there homes ..... i build houses on the island and could goto work tomorrow but am not being aloud to

they are lettin people on one time tomorrow for a couple hours to clean out there refrigerators and grab some stuff geee thanks

another point is that it is impossible for the storm to have damaged the UNDERGROUND infrastructure of the gas lines


another person said im a troll and dont live there??? haha i live in brant beach/ ship bottom im right on the border..... i was driving my truck around during and after the storm with no problems i was actually sitting in my truck on the dunes making peanut butter and jelly sandwiches (no bs) when the eye hit and throughout the entire storm... i have plenty of videos and pictures to prove all that
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I can confirm that what the OP says is true, we have a relative that won't be allowed home for two months.

This is unfortunate, yet.....People should realize that there are risks involved to the luxury of living on or near the beach anywhere.

There are risks to living on an island.

And contrary to most people's beliefs no one owns their land or property as they think they do.

Your home might be paid for but you live in a city, state and country that has ownership rights to what is under your home and can seize your property for the greater good of development, roads....... drilling.....

There is a point to be considered that if people choose to live in a high risk area why should the rest of us have to bail them out?

Your best security? Family and really good friends--those who choose to devote themselves to a career or job can easily be bum out of luck when the SHTF.

I felt that way about Katrina--sounds like a crazy unsafe place to live--why rebuild when you are below sea level?

The simple truth is this country is broke, has been broke for awhile and things are not looking to improve much.

If we make it very far into the future there will have to be a lot of re-adjusting of attitude on what we deserve and should have--we are on a sinking ship.

Anyways, anyone who enjoys beach living should have a really good back-up plan, and then another one when that one fails.

And I don't mean just on the beach--but as far inland is at risk--this is just common sense.

~~OP--I do understand your frustration. There should be lots of work for you there with all the repair and re-building that needs to be done--there has to be a way to get on a crew doing just that. (and just live in your home in secret at night.)

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You hate the government and Red Cross, yet you expect them to solve a gigantic disaster for you and others within a week?

I can see why you only have $300: You're a dumbass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16598644


There were warnings in the news for at least a week before the storm made landfall. Why didn't you heed that warning and leave the area, or at least stock up on food and provisions beforehand? Hmm?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26967861


What use is the food and water he probably did stock up with, hence not having much money, if he can't get home to eat and drink it?
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I feel for the victims, but had they used their heads, evacuated if not prepped, they wouldn't be as bad off, and at least they don't have to try to sleep in 90+ degrees full of mosquitoes, Live Dangerous Animals and the rotting bodies of Man and Animal everywhere like we did.

As far as "having your stash wiped out, they should have had friend preppers with Stockpiles of food, fuel, self-defense means,in multiple locales, sealed, both above ground and below,and mostly knowledge of how to survive and make the most of any circumstance.

Instead, Bliss Ninnies ignored or neglected taking responsibility for them-selves.

All too complacent, as long as they have TV, video games,sports, a little spending money, beer, drugs or what ever "Distraction" they have fell for, that the PTB/SLAVE-MASTERS have readily provided. For years now, they could have been getting ready, and making contingency plans for nearly ANY disaster.

I know not every victim is in this category, but there are more than quite a few. I don't mean to sound judgmental, but bet that many more people will begin to learn self reliance after going through this shit unprepared.

Below is a part of an article with link at end.

In the wake of Superstorm Sandy, preppers are the new prophets. Those who failed to prepare are the new homeless.

For as long as we can all remember, preppers and survivalists have been derided by the mainstream media, labeled "kooks" and "wing nuts" for stockpiling food, water, ammunition, medical supplies and emergency gear. Only paranoid conspiracy theorists engage in evil preparedness activities, we were told by the sellout mainstream media, and they've convinced many that preppers may even be terrorists.

The very word "stockpiling" has been used in a derogatory manner, as if it's somehow bad for private citizens to stockpile food, medicine and emergency supplies that might save lives in a crisis. Never mind that the government stockpiles all these things for its own survival; citizens are routinely taught that stockpiling is bad!

Suddenly all that has changed. In the aftermath of superstorm Sandy, Preppers are the ones who aren't starving, freezing or begging the government to come save them with emergency supplies. Those who failed to prepare are now subjected to the chaotic, incompetent actions of the federal government which is, predictably, operating in a never-ending state of logistical failure.

An one example, in response to the ongoing scarcity of gasoline, New York announced that the Defense Department would be opening up free gas stations near areas hardest-hit, but that residents should stay away and let first responders fuel up ahead of them.

This, of course, set off a wave of confusion. It was then announced that those "civilians" (a derogatory term against citizens, used only in a police state) who were already in line could stay in line, but no "civilians" could join the line. Many people waited up to six hours for gasoline. Tempers flared, fist fights were commonplace, and state troopers had to be sent to gas stations to keep the peace.

Preppers, of course, already stored away spare fuel at home and therefore didn't need to wait in line and subject themselves to the chaos and desperation.

[link to www.naturalnews.com]

Few if any can achieve self reliance alone. People need to band together ahead of time, determine their skill-sets and resources, and at least TRY to be prepared. Any amount of preparedness is better than nothing, but of course, the more the better.
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OP, find someone with a boat to drop you on the beach near your house.....
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Update for OP crybaby...you can go back today.
I live there too...Route 72 is open for residents only.
BUT NO RESIDENTS OF HOLGATE AND NORTH BEACH: too dangerous
Most places south of the 72 bridge have severe damage
and access is limited.
The north half of the island, especially near the
Barnegat Lighthouse, fared pretty good.
OP stop all your whining...get over there
PEOPLE DIED AT THE JERSEY SHORE, AND THERES FREAKIN
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN HOMES/BUSINESSES LOST...not
just the rich peoples vacation homes. families are
looking for shelter
McTimmins

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11/05/2012 02:34 PM
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Sheriffs Department are actively patrolling the waters around the island to prevent people entering by boat.

Residents of Beach Haven, Long Beach Township, Surf City, Ship Bottom and Harvey Cedars may pick up their mail at the Tuckerton Post Office, 139 Main Street, (route 9 South) Tuckerton. Tuckerton Post Office will be open on Sat. Nov. 3rd and Sun Nov 4th to accommodate residents.

Good luck OP

[link to www.lbieoc.org]
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11/06/2012 12:22 AM
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tens of thousands out on the streets and shelters, and they are keeping people from their homes on made up excuses?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3159766


LBI...OP's alleged home...allowed residents on the island today...Monday. Nothing permanent yet because of no power, no gas, no water....but they were permitted to go to their homes.
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11/06/2012 12:24 AM
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Update for OP crybaby...you can go back today.
I live there too...Route 72 is open for residents only.
BUT NO RESIDENTS OF HOLGATE AND NORTH BEACH: too dangerous
Most places south of the 72 bridge have severe damage
and access is limited.
The north half of the island, especially near the
Barnegat Lighthouse, fared pretty good.
OP stop all your whining...get over there
PEOPLE DIED AT THE JERSEY SHORE, AND THERES FREAKIN
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN HOMES/BUSINESSES LOST...not
just the rich peoples vacation homes. families are
looking for shelter
 Quoting: russ59dd


applause2
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11/06/2012 12:57 AM
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C'mon, this Storm happened just a few Days
ago and you are crying like someone who
lost the whole Family, the House+ Money
and your Freedom!

We here have 400.000 People who lost
nearly everything but to complain already,
(like you do)
after such a short Time is not what they do!
 Quoting: the mighty Atom


Good point, Japan. I think about your people everyday. No one is more dignified than the Japanese.
 Quoting: Let Freedom Ring


"No one is more dignified than the Japanese."

Beautiful and diciplined people!
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You hate the government and Red Cross, yet you expect them to solve a gigantic disaster for you and others within a week?

I can see why you only have $300: You're a dumbass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16598644


There were warnings in the news for at least a week before the storm made landfall. Why didn't you heed that warning and leave the area, or at least stock up on food and provisions beforehand? Hmm?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26967861


What use is the food and water he probably did stock up with, hence not having much money, if he can't get home to eat and drink it?
 Quoting: alexisj9


True. So many people here are saying that residents should have "prepped." Apparently they have no clue that even if the residents prepped with food, water, generators, etc....if their home is completely destroyed....what good did their "prepping do?"

Some GLP people just don't get it!
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You hate the government and Red Cross, yet you expect them to solve a gigantic disaster for you and others within a week?

I can see why you only have $300: You're a dumbass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16598644


Hey, at least he can go to a shelter, won't even have that option under Rombot. Romney "go stay with your parents"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3607425


".....won't even have that option under Rombot. Romney "go stay with your parents"


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