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Reagan trailed Carter in most polls in 1980

 
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The polls showed the race as very close. Reagan trailed Carter in most polls, and even the final Gallup poll showed Reagan just 3 points ahead. But he actually won by 10. Could the race have been decided in the hectic final week?

Mitofsky reports that, after the election, CBS News and the New York Times re-interviewed the respondents they had surveyed in the final pre-election poll and found that “approximately one person in seven said they did something different than what they had said just prior to the election.” Not only did Carter lose the remaining undecided voters in that final week, but some of his supporters lost faith in him and switched sides.

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“It is my contention that there was significant change in presidential preference by the public starting with the Carter/Reagan debate that accelerated through election day,” concluded Warren J. Mitofsky of CBS News in a review of the polling in the 1980 race.
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Exactly a week before election day, the only debate between Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan was won by Reagan by a margin of 44 to 36 in a CBS News poll, and by 46 to 34 in the AP poll, and by 2 to 1 in the widely publicized ABC mock public dial-a-poll
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During that same final week, Richard Allen resigned from the Reagan campaign for an alleged misuse of influence during his Nixon White House days. The same day Carter’s congressional liaison, Frank Moore, resigned after repeating the unsubstantiated story of the Ayatollah’s cancer. On Friday of that week the final economic indicator of the campaign showed inflation still seriously on the rise. And on Sunday morning, November 1, the Iranian parliament announced their conditions for freeing the American hostages. Jimmy Carter immediately abandoned campaigning and appeared on national television in the early evening to repeat much of what the public had been hearing all day. It was a week, in effect, with much that could affect the choices made by voters.
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Re: Reagan trailed Carter in most polls in 1980
The polls showed the race as very close. Reagan trailed Carter in most polls, and even the final Gallup poll showed Reagan just 3 points ahead. But he actually won by 10. Could the race have been decided in the hectic final week?

Mitofsky reports that, after the election, CBS News and the New York Times re-interviewed the respondents they had surveyed in the final pre-election poll and found that “approximately one person in seven said they did something different than what they had said just prior to the election.” Not only did Carter lose the remaining undecided voters in that final week, but some of his supporters lost faith in him and switched sides.

[link to polipundit.com]
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People needed to know this. The media was in bed with Carter back then and reported skewed polls. They are doing the same thing now.

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Too bad all the Reagan voters are DEAD
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Gee I would normally say this is good news but the cockroach liberals are off in another thread saying Nate Silver predicts an Obama victory.

lmao
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Too bad all the Reagan voters are DEAD
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Well someone has obviously replaced them. Does this thread need to be linked one more time?

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Obama Carter Mir
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:Obama Carter Mir:
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Pinned for you buddy rockon
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Thank you!
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4 years is far too long a time in not having an adult in the White House. The nightmare needs to come to an end.








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4 years is far too long a time in not having an adult in the White House. The nightmare needs to come to an end.








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Gee I would normally say this is good news but the cockroach liberals are off in another thread saying Nate Silver predicts an Obama victory.

lmao
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Obama can't get 50% now he's toast.
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Too bad all the Reagan voters are DEAD
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Well someone has obviously replaced them. Does this thread need to be linked one more time?

Thread: TRR: Romney Outpolling Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II and Obama

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Different mindset
sorry
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Re: Reagan trailed Carter in most polls in 1980
I was driving 2 the polls around 5PM PST & they announced that Reagan had won & Carter was prearranging his concession speech.
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Obama Carter Mir
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Pinned for you buddy rockon
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Always there SD!
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you morons are just digging your own deaths for either voiting for obooba or romnuts

Only choice is gary johnson; seriously morons.
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Re: Reagan trailed Carter in most polls in 1980
Reagan may have won in 1980 because of the Iran hostage crisis. They allegedly made a backroom deal to hold the hostages until after the election. No doubt Bush would have played a key role in this.

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Re: Reagan trailed Carter in most polls in 1980
Reagan may have won in 1980 because of the Iran hostage crisis. They allegedly made a backroom deal to hold the hostages until after the election. No doubt Bush would have played a key role in this.

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Well if that is what Barry was trying to do in Benghazi he went full retard.
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you morons are just digging your own deaths for either voiting for obooba or romnuts

Only choice is gary johnson; seriously morons.
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As much as I clearly see the similarities and evil in both parties, Gary cannot win, if Obama does the train speeds towards the cliff where the bridge is out and at least we can slow the damn thing down under Romney to change course with true constitutional representatives.
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Re: Reagan trailed Carter in most polls in 1980
Carter likely would have won had it not been for Peter Bourne's boneheaded move.
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You must be another Obozo supporter. Romney leads in all the polls . So you now don't believe them ?ohappy
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Too bad all the Reagan voters are DEAD
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Well someone has obviously replaced them. Does this thread need to be linked one more time?

Thread: TRR: Romney Outpolling Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II and Obama

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good one
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Re: Reagan trailed Carter in most polls in 1980
Some context for 1980 from a Shill.

There was only one debate between Carter and Reagan and it was less than a week before the election. Reagan out preformed Carter by a wide margin. He cleaned Carter's clock, and it was especially powerful because everyone expected Reagan to lose.

There were also a lot fewer pollsters in 1980 than today. We have more polling data than ever before.

Also, despite Republicans wishful thinking, Romney is no Ronald Reagan. And Obama is no Jimmy Carter. Romney doesn't have that ability to connect with people like Reagan did. If he did, this race would have been over long ago. Romney has no businesses losing this election, but if he does (and unless most of the polls are wrong he will) it will be because he was such an awful candidate.

This election is a lot more like 2004 than 1980. An unpopular incumbent who has no business winning facing an incredibly weak challenger.

Could all the polls end up being wrong? Sure. Anything is possible.

But it is very unlikely.
Shillin' like a Villain.
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November 2010 never happened

Nothing to see here

However, remember that it takes a carter to get a Reagan
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because we had the internet and the same polling infrastructure
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Too bad all the Reagan voters are DEAD
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Don't bet on it, sonnny.
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Re: Reagan trailed Carter in most polls in 1980
Some context for 1980 from a Shill.

There was only one debate between Carter and Reagan and it was less than a week before the election. Reagan out preformed Carter by a wide margin. He cleaned Carter's clock, and it was especially powerful because everyone expected Reagan to lose.

There were also a lot fewer pollsters in 1980 than today. We have more polling data than ever before.

Also, despite Republicans wishful thinking, Romney is no Ronald Reagan. And Obama is no Jimmy Carter. Romney doesn't have that ability to connect with people like Reagan did. If he did, this race would have been over long ago. Romney has no businesses losing this election, but if he does (and unless most of the polls are wrong he will) it will be because he was such an awful candidate.

This election is a lot more like 2004 than 1980. An unpopular incumbent who has no business winning facing an incredibly weak challenger.

Could all the polls end up being wrong? Sure. Anything is possible.

But it is very unlikely.
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Did you NOT read the original post??? "Romney doesn't have that ability to connect with people like Reagan did....if he did, this race would have been over long ago...." If Reagan had so much "connectivity" with the voters, WHY DID THE POLLS HAVE HIM LOSING JUST A WEEK BEFORE?!?!?!?!

Quit your wishful thinking, and face the facts.

And for the record, *I* think Romney is sounding more "Reagan-esque" every time I hear him (the closer it gets to election day).





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