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| daughter in NYC User ID: 26741332 11/05/2012 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Keep your focus on your relationship with Christ alone and immerse yourself in His Word. Ask the Father to reveal Truth by revelation of the Holy Spirit through His Word. Your answer will come by faith and the peace of Christ will confirm. I will agree in prayer for you, friend daughter in NYC |
| Rising Son We Are All Godlike Productions User ID: 26324052 11/05/2012 01:51 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, the first thing I want you to know is that you are not alone. The fact that you reached out like you did suggests that you already know this to be true. Just know that you are among friends here, those who will not judge you and care about you without ever having met you. It is a very comforting feeling, I assure you :-) I, and I know quite a few others here have been where you are now. What I think you are struggling with is giving up control. The hardest thing to do in strengthening your faith is having enough trust in God to let Him take over for you. Your fear of not having control over your life is what is most frustrating to you - at least that's how it was for me. Willingly submit yourself to the will of God, and allow Him to show you the path He has set for you. You also must come to terms with the fact that you will never figure everything out, and that's okay. Our entire life is a classroom, and the lessons we don't learn the first time will be taught again. Just be sure you are willing to learn when they come your way. Slow down, and let each lesson sink in. You are trying to figure out a short cut, and life does not work that way. If you do not build a good foundation with easier lessons, you will struggle with the trials you must face. I hope I have been of some help to you. Above all else, put your trust in God :-) Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood. Translation: Don't piss down my back and tell me its raining. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24651609 11/05/2012 02:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok I am at the fork in the road. Seriously. In my confusion I feel like giving up. I don't know what is going on. I believe I sought out God I believe Jesus spoke to me telling me to have Faith....3 times...have faith... It's a long story but He revealed Himself to me.. so with that I was told things to come and was told Jesus' words which I read in the bible after the fact... And no I was not reading the bible before...ever! There was a lot of symbolism... Ok well this was 6 years ago .. some things have come to pass but not the main thing. Now I just don't know why this has all happened Plus I have had several dreams the. Past year and a half ...and I don't know what is going on. I don't know what happened or why or why things continue to happen . I feel like forgetting this whole thing its too much I want answers I want to know the truth and if I roll with this I know its a dangerous road ... I am at the fork.. I don't know what to do because I don't have all the answers ...what if He didn't really reveal Himself you know I don't even know what happened anymore so ill be walking by some sort of lie.. yet what if He did and He did speak all these things and I let the whole thing go... I can't be half way with it I'm either in or out....I am not a church going liar who thinks there is no road to actually walk.. so I am at the fork in the road ...knowing the risks on each road. I am either about to let the whole God experience go and forget it because its been in my head for six years or roll with it ... Did anyone have an experience of God where He told you something to come and you had to wait?? and it either happened or didn'?? And how did this affect your faith? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2119558 Since you are at a fork, know this: The road to Hell is wide and easy, but the road to Heaven is skinny, and hard. Pray to God for 'discernment' so that you are able to have an automatic shit separate, to help you separate the real shit from the bull shit. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23663666 11/05/2012 02:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the "Bible Fraud" by Tony Bushby. Then find a book out of print titled The "Gods of Eden." When you put this information together you will understand the religious setup. Christianity is a good system to pass through, just don't get stuck there. You can take the fire of Jesus with you when you move on. Religion is a half-way house between the sane and insane. It is difficult for those outside religious systems to tell whether believers are going deeper into mental illness, or whether they are finding themselves and healing. The idea of gods, all gods, is based on the need for people to cling to parents, any kind of parents. Usually the real parents are inadequate, so if "Jesus loves you," it satisfies a deep hunger for acceptance. If people get enough loving support and acceptance from others, they can move on with their life. I had to leave my religion. I felt so totally betrayed. It was that or die inside. I've grown so much more after I left that little box, but I so needed that box while I was in it. The philosophy I've accepted is, "The One split into many to know itself; therefore, God is in the Eyes of the Other." Maybe this helps. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26142676 11/05/2012 02:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the "Bible Fraud" by Tony Bushby. Then find a book out of print titled The "Gods of Eden." When you put this information together you will understand the religious setup. Christianity is a good system to pass through, just don't get stuck there. You can take the fire of Jesus with you when you move on. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23663666 Religion is a half-way house between the sane and insane. It is difficult for those outside religious systems to tell whether believers are going deeper into mental illness, or whether they are finding themselves and healing. The idea of gods, all gods, is based on the need for people to cling to parents, any kind of parents. Usually the real parents are inadequate, so if "Jesus loves you," it satisfies a deep hunger for acceptance. If people get enough loving support and acceptance from others, they can move on with their life. I had to leave my religion. I felt so totally betrayed. It was that or die inside. I've grown so much more after I left that little box, but I so needed that box while I was in it. The philosophy I've accepted is, "The One split into many to know itself; therefore, God is in the Eyes of the Other." Maybe this helps. when your hair and teeth start falling out from the radiation and you have cancer all over your body and everything you eat is contaminated.. you to will believe.... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26861823 11/05/2012 02:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everything is in God's time.Let His will be done.If God has called you,He will continue to lead you.Fast,pray fervently and precise.When you ask God for something,do so with a humble heart.Remember, sin can not be in heaven so if you have anything standing between you and God, you must confess that sin first,then HE will answer your pray.Again,be specific,so when HE answers you KNOW it is from God,not just by chance.Let me tell you when you cry out to God in the spirit,I mean really cry out to the God of Abraham,Issaac and Jacob,God stands up in Heaven and shouts with a mighty voice,my faithful ones are trusting and praying and I will move those mountains,roll back the heavens and reign down fire and brimstone,for I am the great I AM.He is the Alpha and Omega.He is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.Soon all will fall upon their knees and know that is Lord of all.He is victorious.Glory to God.Amen..When you feel you have climbed a mountain,sometimes God sets us in the valley and says..be still and wait.Let us not forget,when we pray for something,sometimes we are too busy continuously praying about it,and don't stand up long enough to receive it from God.Let go,and let God.Stay strong in the Lord,His Word,and let not your heart be troubled.I will pray and agree with you on this.In Jesus name.Amen. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25777339 11/05/2012 02:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ive been where you are at, and its your logical/instinctual mind telling you that you need to get the hell out of the brainwashing that is christianity. seriousley, i have been there & since i kicked that nonsense for 6 my life has been so much better!! was a bit hard for a few months transitioning. but i adjusted & now i feel so much better for it. i really encourage you to give it all up!! your gut tells you its nonsense doesnt it? so listen to your gut. you wont go to hell, your spirituality wont die...its all crap. go live & enjoy your life free of the head fuck that is religion. :) peace |
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| Rising Son We Are All Godlike Productions User ID: 26324052 11/05/2012 07:20 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for the responses Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8909786 It may help to reconsider what a prayer is and how you are praying. Try to think of it this way: a prayer is simply a conversation between you and your heavenly Father and His Son Jesus Christ. It should come naturally, without forcing it, as easy as breathing. God communicates with us in love, and in a language only you can understand. He is with you in your silent thoughts, your dreams, and in your heart. I remember you talking about symbolism - I believe that is just one of the many ways God talks to us. Just be sure you are simply observing the symbolism, and that you are not seeing it how you want to see it. Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood. Translation: Don't piss down my back and tell me its raining. |
| Lisa*Lisa User ID: 1106916 11/05/2012 07:24 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well OP, without giving more details about your experience, it's difficult to give advise. Do you want to share exactly what happened and what was said? About a fork in the road, read the story of Jonah. God told him what to do, and Jonah bailed.......lol. He completely caved and ran the other way. God taught him a lesson and had a fish swallow him. Then Jonah got the message and did what he was supposed to do. Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For? Do you have questions about God or need someone to talk to? Email me at Lisalovesjesus7@gmail.com ____________________________ "If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." "If the mountain were smooth, you couldn't climb it." "Tell them, I love them" - Jesus Christ ____________________________ A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com] _____________________________ 2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me." |
| Dr.DoomLittle User ID: 6231580 11/05/2012 07:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how do you even know the situation you attribute as a communication with "god" really IS what you think it is? the abstraction of messages is the intervention of men into them; men have fundamental attribution errors; they give a meaning to something that may not be what they think. Could there be another explanation? I dont think "god" really cares about individual beliefs, our petty life drama's; this is a duty for friends and family. Last Edited by Intergalactic Diplomat on 11/05/2012 07:54 AM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18645917 11/05/2012 07:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok I am at the fork in the road. Seriously. In my confusion I feel like giving up. I don't know what is going on. I believe I sought out God I believe Jesus spoke to me telling me to have Faith....3 times...have faith... It's a long story but He revealed Himself to me.. so with that I was told things to come and was told Jesus' words which I read in the bible after the fact... And no I was not reading the bible before...ever! There was a lot of symbolism... Ok well this was 6 years ago .. some things have come to pass but not the main thing. Now I just don't know why this has all happened Plus I have had several dreams the. Past year and a half ...and I don't know what is going on. I don't know what happened or why or why things continue to happen . I feel like forgetting this whole thing its too much I want answers I want to know the truth and if I roll with this I know its a dangerous road ... I am at the fork.. I don't know what to do because I don't have all the answers ...what if He didn't really reveal Himself you know I don't even know what happened anymore so ill be walking by some sort of lie.. yet what if He did and He did speak all these things and I let the whole thing go... I can't be half way with it I'm either in or out....I am not a church going liar who thinks there is no road to actually walk.. so I am at the fork in the road ...knowing the risks on each road. I am either about to let the whole God experience go and forget it because its been in my head for six years or roll with it ... Did anyone have an experience of God where He told you something to come and you had to wait?? and it either happened or didn'?? And how did this affect your faith? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2119558 God is within. You are being negative and you must remain positive. I waited 5 years, and yesterday my day has arrived. Peace. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26698711 11/05/2012 07:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bible way to Heaven Know your a sinner Rom 3:23 KJV - For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; realize the penalty for Sin..hell Rev 21:8 KJV - But the feareful, and unbeleeving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone , which is the second death. Rev 20:15 KJV - And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Who is he that overcometh? 1Jo 5:5 KJV - Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? Gospel Rom 5:8 KJV - But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 1Cr 15:3 KJV - For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 1Cr 15:4 KJV - And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Jesus wants to give us the Gift of eternal Life for free its a GIFT!!!!! Rom 6:23 KJV - For the wages of sin [is] death: but the gift of God [is] eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Jesus Said: Jhn 5:24 KJV - Verily, verily I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation: but is passed from death unto life. Rom 10:9 KJV - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart, that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Rom 10:10 KJV - For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Rom 10:11 KJV - For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him, shall not be ashamed. Here is a simple prayer to ask for salvation and trusting on Christ to save you and take you to heaven, Its not just words that save but what you believe in your heart.. Rom 10:9 Dear Jesus I know im a sinner , I know i deserve to go to Hell, I realize now you died and rose again for me and are alive forever more, Please Save me and take me to heaven when i die.. I'm only trusting you Jesus Amen... |
| Dr.DoomLittle User ID: 6231580 11/05/2012 07:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bible way to Heaven Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26698711 Know your a sinner Rom 3:23 KJV - For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; realize the penalty for Sin..hell Rev 21:8 KJV - But the feareful, and unbeleeving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone , which is the second death. Rev 20:15 KJV - And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Who is he that overcometh? 1Jo 5:5 KJV - Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? Gospel Rom 5:8 KJV - But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 1Cr 15:3 KJV - For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 1Cr 15:4 KJV - And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Jesus wants to give us the Gift of eternal Life for free its a GIFT!!!!! Rom 6:23 KJV - For the wages of sin [is] death: but the gift of God [is] eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Jesus Said: Jhn 5:24 KJV - Verily, verily I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation: but is passed from death unto life. Rom 10:9 KJV - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart, that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Rom 10:10 KJV - For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Rom 10:11 KJV - For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him, shall not be ashamed. Here is a simple prayer to ask for salvation and trusting on Christ to save you and take you to heaven, Its not just words that save but what you believe in your heart.. Rom 10:9 Dear Jesus I know im a sinner , I know i deserve to go to Hell, I realize now you died and rose again for me and are alive forever more, Please Save me and take me to heaven when i die.. I'm only trusting you Jesus Amen... so they say. no thanks. i think this is the part of the bible that is bullshit. let me elaborate: Bible way to Heaven Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26698711 Know your a sinner Rom 3:23 KJV - For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; realize the penalty for Sin..hell CREATE CRISIS Rev 21:8 KJV - But the feareful, and unbeleeving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone , which is the second death. BLANKET JUDGEMENT; MADE BY PHANTOM AUTHORITY CONDEMNS EVERYBODY AND CREATES A 'CRISIS' THAT DIDN'T EXIST BEFORE Rev 20:15 KJV - And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Who is he that overcometh? COMPETTITION OR 'QUALIFICATION' TO NOT BE CONDEMNED. PHANTOM AUTHORITARIANISM; CONTRACT PROPOSED 1Jo 5:5 KJV - Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God? Gospel Rom 5:8 KJV - But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 1Cr 15:3 KJV - For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; GOD LOVES US SO MUCH, WE BURN IN HELL FOR EXISTING DIRECT CONTRADICTION 1Cr 15:4 KJV - And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Jesus wants to give us the Gift of eternal Life for free its a GIFT!!!!! GEE, UH.... THANKS.... Rom 6:23 KJV - For the wages of sin [is] death: but the gift of God [is] eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Jesus Said: Jhn 5:24 KJV - Verily, verily I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation: but is passed from death unto life. Rom 10:9 KJV - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart, that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Rom 10:10 KJV - For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Rom 10:11 KJV - For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him, shall not be ashamed. Here is a simple prayer to ask for salvation and trusting on Christ to save you and take you to heaven, Its not just words that save but what you believe in your heart.. Rom 10:9 Dear Jesus I know im a sinner , I know i deserve to go to Hell, I realize now you died and rose again for me and are alive forever more, Please Save me and take me to heaven when i die.. I'm only trusting you Jesus Amen... CONTRACT CONSUMATED. SOLUTION TO CRISIS IN A CONTROLLED PARADIGM we need to get out of fantasy land, and look at whats real; like Mat 21:12 Matthew 21:12-16 12 Then Jesus entered the temple* and drove out all who were selling and buying in the temple, and he overturned the tables of the money-changers and the seats of those who sold doves. 13He said to them, ‘It is written, “My house shall be called a house of prayer”; but you are making it a den of robbers.’ If your wondering who the real Jesus is; its this. It correlates with history. This is probably the reason he was crucified; the other astrotheological references are elitist sensationalism that deviates from the true identity of Christ IMO. Last Edited by Intergalactic Diplomat on 11/05/2012 08:15 AM |
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| Keep2theCode User ID: 20545539 11/05/2012 07:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When the sea begins to churn and the hurricanes come, remember where your Anchor is, and who is the Captain of the ship. The Christian faith is based upon a fact of history: Jesus rose from the dead. Many logical conclusions flow from that base, and this is the lifetime of spiritual growth with its twists and turns. But like Peter walking on the water, keep your eyes on Jesus and you won't sink. Remember why you came to Him: to be reconciled to God. Other belief systems would try to tell you that they know something you don't, or God doesn't, or the Bible doesn't. But the fact is that they too rest upon things that cannot be proved. If it's certainty you're seeking, there is no more certainty in other beliefs, and in my opinion they have less than we do. An alternate explanation for life is not necessarily a better one. Faith is trust, and trust can be scary. But if one must leap from a cliff, I think I'll trust God more than a thousand self-help religions. Those who know all the answers haven't heard all the questions. |