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The stream is Divine Energy..God..

To go in the stream means to become One..to connect with God..establish a communication and Oneness

This requires humility..trust..and faith

then let the flow take and guide you..and listen as it speaks through signs..dont ignore them or you might lose your way


and have to try to flow again..
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There is no life in stagnant water
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Jesus said " Blessed are those who have not seen, yet believe " that is what faith is.
Do not give up the ground you have covered. That is exactly what the enemy of your soul desires.
Keep reading the Word. It will feed your soul.
Life here is a puff of wind, hang in there.
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Ok I am at the fork in the road. Seriously. In my confusion I feel like giving up. I don't know what is going on. I believe I sought out God I believe Jesus spoke to me telling me to have Faith....3 times...have faith... It's a long story but He revealed Himself to me.. so with that I was told things to come and was told Jesus' words which I read in the bible after the fact... And no I was not reading the bible before...ever! There was a lot of symbolism... Ok well this was 6 years ago .. some things have come to pass but not the main thing. Now I just don't know why this has all happened Plus I have had several dreams the. Past year and a half ...and I don't know what is going on. I don't know what happened or why or why things continue to happen . I feel like forgetting this whole thing its too much I want answers I want to know the truth and if I roll with this I know its a dangerous road ... I am at the fork.. I don't know what to do because I don't have all the answers ...what if He didn't really reveal Himself you know I don't even know what happened anymore so ill be walking by some sort of lie.. yet what if He did and He did speak all these things and I let the whole thing go... I can't be half way with it I'm either in or out....I am not a church going liar who thinks there is no road to actually walk.. so I am at the fork in the road ...knowing the risks on each road. I am either about to let the whole God experience go and forget it because its been in my head for six years or roll with it ... Did anyone have an experience of God where He told you something to come and you had to wait?? and it either happened or didn'?? And how did this affect your faith?
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King James Version of the Bible. Now.

Ask for wisdom and understanding. Then keep looking.

It will brainwash you.

Study Symbolism. You will eventually start seeing its all around you. It will go hand in hand with everything that you will learn from the Bible.

They are the key to the spotting the image, the mark and the number of the beast.

For example, a simple equilateral triangle, 3 sides of 60° degrees each, not find on anything on nature by itself, is one of the many representations of the number of the beast.

It directly communicates to you that there was a human design behind it. You initially you will think symbols are coincidences. They are EVERYWHERE.

They are everywhere on your computer. When you open your refrigerator and the slogan of your refrigerator. Almost anything electronic, really.
Look at your monitor logo, on almost anything electronic, main media/television/entertainment/music, main corporations slogans. EVERYWHERE.

Doesnt matter where in the world you are, if your town has any sewage system, the symbol on it will be the number of the beast.
You cant initially properly understand when I say EVERYWHERE.

The dreams you are experiencing are not likelly from God. Unless you wake up crying for joy, repentence for the glory of God, then its not from God.

Any state of conscience that is not your awake, aware state of conscience at this point is not from God. If you feel with lack of energy, depressed, tired you are in trouble. If you take any medication, any drug, distillate drinks. In short, if it affects your natural brain chemics and its man made. Anything man made that is too sophis ticated now was probably corrupted long ago.

Unless you live in a small rural area with small independent business, its likelly part of the monopolies under the adversary.

Go to the King James Version of the Bible and IT WILL ENLIGHTEN YOU. Everything that does not match the Bible, ask yourself wether its a good Fruit or a bad fruit. If it leads to something good or bad. How it relates and influences other things. The truth will start pouring into you and the reality you are imprisoned on will start to shatter, and piece by piece it will start falling.
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Go to a look up the Order of Mass online and learn what happens at the Mass. Then go to a Mass at a local Catholic church and experience it. I have been going for a few years and never have I had someone preach to me like at Protestant churches. I converted bc I met interesting people who were praying devotedly for good things in the world. Ignore all the people who say the RCC is the devil blah blah blah. It is the root of Christianity and still has the most powerful sacraments in the spiritual world. Until you become a part and partake of the Eucharist you likely will never find out why you were called.
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Go to a look up the Order of Mass online and learn what happens at the Mass. Then go to a Mass at a local Catholic church and experience it. I have been going for a few years and never have I had someone preach to me like at Protestant churches. I converted bc I met interesting people who were praying devotedly for good things in the world. Ignore all the people who say the RCC is the devil blah blah blah. It is the root of Christianity and still has the most powerful sacraments in the spiritual world. Until you become a part and partake of the Eucharist you likely will never find out why you were called.
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OP I am in the exact same situation. I believe He gave me a Revelation through synchronicity and I have been waiting since the end of 2008. I am talking big stuff. Can't say anymore for now. Stick with it OP, I believe it happened, don't give up now that we are so close to the end. It's like an obsession and enters your mind everyday, I know how frustrating it is not having all the answers. A thing I do to calm myself is remind myself that what will be will be and just continue to live my normal day to day life without obsessing over it. God bless you. Also, the most important part, fervent prayer asking God to expound the mystery.
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If you give up, then you are doing exactly what the enemy wants you to do. Besides, God's timing is not our timing. Continue to seek him and wait patiently for Him to act.
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Great advice.
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Did you also see a symbol in a vision? ;)
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GOD reveals himself through the scriptures NOT through dreams and visions.. dont be decieved .
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These are the words of one who has never had an experience with the Holy Spirit. The Bible is full of stories of Him using dreams and visions. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the light; no one will come to the Father except by Me," and "You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me." I feel sad for you. Empty yourself and cry out to Him and He will answer

OP, your experience is similar to mine and I ditched religion (not YHWH) as a child. You have to keep seeking and striving for His desire for we are here to be refined for the next creation. You are to become a instrument, emptied (humble) and readied for His supernatural use (that's the fun part!). It is a difficult path, but each trial strengthens us in Him.
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Ok I am at the fork in the road. Seriously.
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how do you even know the situation you attribute as a communication with "god" really IS what you think it is?

the abstraction of messages is the intervention of men into them; men have fundamental attribution errors; they give a meaning to something that may not be what they think.

Could there be another explanation? I dont think "god" really cares about individual beliefs, our petty life drama's; this is a duty for friends and family.
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Because he confirms our experiences through synchronicity so we have no doubt that it was coincidence but providence.
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GOD reveals himself through the scriptures NOT through dreams and visions.. dont be decieved .
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when christ was cruicified he had very little friends left, no one would want to believe him and people would be scared of approaching him for they would be persecuted by the romans, betrayed he was left dying on his crucifix before his ressurection. i am at the lowest point in my life right now with very little support from family and like some old guy said to me when you have nothing you will realise that there is no such things as 'friends', look about. the material world has now forgotten me until i can go out again!

you have stood up and lifted your own head once you should be asking yourself why this again, can i be independent in dealing with this and come back stronger?
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God is about faith and belief.

Satan is about spotting coincidences through mass spreading of symbolism, geometry, subliminal messages, music, art, etc.

So that when you finally start connecting things and think its from God, then you get deceived by his image, his mark and his number.

Its not about your conscient or inconscient. Its not about awakening your third eye or kundalini either.

God is not a pill or a mushroom. Its not about your dreams. Its not about validation through signals.

If its from God, you will know its from God, start overflowing with the holy ghost, crying tears of repentence and giving glory to him.

Otherwise, unclean spirits, demons working miracles, and demons tempting you with sins will dominate your "dreams".

Be very weary that you dont get deceived.

You can only believe that God is showing you the way after you started changing yourself, and turning away from sin and showing an honest change of heart.

God is never like "meh, whatever, here, take a vision". So be very weary of these nor hot, nor cold "dreams", faith less "dreams".
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And all of this will not happen every day, or every couple of days.

When it happens, you will know and thats it.
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Dont you love these hit and run posts...OP posts problem, people offer lots of good advice and OP is never heard from again.. What a waste.
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Ok I am at the fork in the road. Seriously. In my confusion I feel like giving up. I don't know what is going on. I believe I sought out God I believe Jesus spoke to me telling me to have Faith....3 times...have faith... It's a long story but He revealed Himself to me.. so with that I was told things to come and was told Jesus' words which I read in the bible after the fact... And no I was not reading the bible before...ever! There was a lot of symbolism... Ok well this was 6 years ago .. some things have come to pass but not the main thing. Now I just don't know why this has all happened Plus I have had several dreams the. Past year and a half ...and I don't know what is going on. I don't know what happened or why or why things continue to happen . I feel like forgetting this whole thing its too much I want answers I want to know the truth and if I roll with this I know its a dangerous road ... I am at the fork.. I don't know what to do because I don't have all the answers ...what if He didn't really reveal Himself you know I don't even know what happened anymore so ill be walking by some sort of lie.. yet what if He did and He did speak all these things and I let the whole thing go... I can't be half way with it I'm either in or out....I am not a church going liar who thinks there is no road to actually walk.. so I am at the fork in the road ...knowing the risks on each road. I am either about to let the whole God experience go and forget it because its been in my head for six years or roll with it ... Did anyone have an experience of God where He told you something to come and you had to wait?? and it either happened or didn'?? And how did this affect your faith?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2119558


Hey religious person, i just got off the hiway to heaven hotline and the big woman who says said stop making such a fuss. She also recommends a test for schizophrenia asap and also said losing faith in yourself has prevented you from bing at peace in your soul and finding the light that guides you.

Now she is verrrrrryyy busy so stop bothering her about your insignificant trivialities and get a life.
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bro, the answers you see are bigger then christianity, christianity is product of humanity. There is a god for sure but it is not what you think. Everything is much bigger and far more simple compared to the "bible". It is just a book all answers lie within yourself, because you are a part of everything and everything is connected.
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when christ was cruicified he had very little friends left, no one would want to believe him and people would be scared of approaching him for they would be persecuted by the romans, betrayed he was left dying on his crucifix before his ressurection. i am at the lowest point in my life right now with very little support from family and like some old guy said to me when you have nothing you will realise that there is no such things as 'friends', look about. the material world has now forgotten me until i can go out again!

you have stood up and lifted your own head once you should be asking yourself why this again, can i be independent in dealing with this and come back stronger?
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when everyone is gone..there is still one hand stretched out waiting for you to hold it..and never let go..Gods hf
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I would really like to see more discussion on this thread. I hope the OP comes back so we can get to the bottom of things.
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In fact, I really think the answer is as others have mentioned. Everything in God's time, not ours. Guess it doesn't help to be one of the most impatient people ever. Maybe it is a lesson.
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I had something similar happen to me 6 years ago, also. I am just going to say what happened. I am going with it because I believe it is real and it is happening. I had what i considered was a true spiritual experience when i was in my 30's. I believed God had spoken to me but I did not have the courage nor the character to walk the walk. I drifted through life, struggling and vacillating the entire time.

I finally hit the wall 6 years ago. That is when it all hit me. I became aware that things are not the way they appear to be. That 911 was an inside job and I was outraged. Then as if that was not enough I watched Doomsday 2012 about the Mayan Calendar and TIME WAVE ZERO and the end of the world as we know it and I was stunned when a feeling of OMG!! this is true came over me and these feelings have done nothing except strengthen over the last 6 years.

So I would say if you feel it in your gut or your heart go with it because the Kingdom of Heaven is within. The external world is collapsing under its own weight.

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God is about faith and belief.

Satan is about spotting coincidences through mass spreading of symbolism, geometry, subliminal messages, music, art, etc.

So that when you finally start connecting things and think its from God, then you get deceived by his image, his mark and his number.

Its not about your conscient or inconscient. Its not about awakening your third eye or kundalini either.

God is not a pill or a mushroom. Its not about your dreams. Its not about validation through signals.

If its from God, you will know its from God, start overflowing with the holy ghost, crying tears of repentence and giving glory to him.

Otherwise, unclean spirits, demons working miracles, and demons tempting you with sins will dominate your "dreams".

Be very weary that you dont get deceived.

You can only believe that God is showing you the way after you started changing yourself, and turning away from sin and showing an honest change of heart.

God is never like "meh, whatever, here, take a vision". So be very weary of these nor hot, nor cold "dreams", faith less "dreams".
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Thanks, I liked what you had to say.
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God is about faith and belief.

Satan is about spotting coincidences through mass spreading of symbolism, geometry, subliminal messages, music, art, etc.

So that when you finally start connecting things and think its from God, then you get deceived by his image, his mark and his number.

Its not about your conscient or inconscient. Its not about awakening your third eye or kundalini either.

God is not a pill or a mushroom. Its not about your dreams. Its not about validation through signals.

If its from God, you will know its from God, start overflowing with the holy ghost, crying tears of repentence and giving glory to him.

Otherwise, unclean spirits, demons working miracles, and demons tempting you with sins will dominate your "dreams".

Be very weary that you dont get deceived.

You can only believe that God is showing you the way after you started changing yourself, and turning away from sin and showing an honest change of heart.

God is never like "meh, whatever, here, take a vision". So be very weary of these nor hot, nor cold "dreams", faith less "dreams".
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I would be curious to hear how you would describe the Holy Spirit. God speaks to all of us in many different ways, if you fear visions and dreams - then you must not trust God very much to have given you enough discernment to recognize right from wrong. I agree that Satan is very treacherous and misleading, but like you said, if it's from God, you will know it is.

Last Edited by Rising Son on 11/05/2012 11:30 AM
"Be still, and know that I am God." Psalm 46:10

Truth needs no validation because it is self-evident and undeniable. Therefore, anything that requires validation to be realized or justified as truth must contain at least some degree of falsehood.

Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

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God is about faith and belief.

Satan is about spotting coincidences through mass spreading of symbolism, geometry, subliminal messages, music, art, etc.

So that when you finally start connecting things and think its from God, then you get deceived by his image, his mark and his number.

Its not about your conscient or inconscient. Its not about awakening your third eye or kundalini either.

God is not a pill or a mushroom. Its not about your dreams. Its not about validation through signals.

If its from God, you will know its from God, start overflowing with the holy ghost, crying tears of repentence and giving glory to him.

Otherwise, unclean spirits, demons working miracles, and demons tempting you with sins will dominate your "dreams".

Be very weary that you dont get deceived.

You can only believe that God is showing you the way after you started changing yourself, and turning away from sin and showing an honest change of heart.

God is never like "meh, whatever, here, take a vision". So be very weary of these nor hot, nor cold "dreams", faith less "dreams".
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I would be curious to hear how you would describe the Holy Spirit. God speaks to all of us in many different ways, if you fear visions and dreams - then you must not trust God very much to have given you enough discernment to recognize right from wrong. I agree that Satan is very treacherous and misleading, but like you said, if it's from God, you will know it is.
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bump

We all have an inner knowing and we need to contact it ASAP.
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Isaiah 26:4 Trust in the LORD forever, for the LORD, the LORD, is the Rock eternal.
I am standing for my convictions just as you are standing for yours. So no need for either of us to take offense.
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Most of my life i was a christian. 9 years ago i started wanting to know God on a more personal level.
I was shown some things by God. Not the future, but the past. He showed me that the church doesnt know the real him. These things that i have been shown by God turned me away from the christian church. You could say that i gave up on the church. I feel this is what is required in order to get a real relationship with God.

That which you are waiting for, is waiting for you.
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What the hell kind of gibberish are you posting here?

God isn't In Relationship with those who haven't surrendered Unto HIS Will.


Nothing about Loving Christ Jesus and Knowing HE IS God The Son and your Redeemer & Saviour. You had some wild dreams and want God to seek you. Such is your carnal heart doing its thing. Also proof of your alienation from God.


Faith w/o works is dead.
Time to make your Leap Of Faith and Trust God Fully with every aspect of your life and give HIM control of your life and seek HIS Guidance and Will for you... IF you would Be HIS...


The Gospel is not written as a For Dummies guide. Coming Unto The Father is a matter of your heart, not your studied intellect or acquired beliefs you agree with.

God The Father Sent God The Son to be the Blood Sacrifice, Propitiation For Sin, so that HE Could Receive and Look Upon you should you decide to make your surrender.

In John 14:6 Jesus Says, "... No man Cometh Unto The Father But BY ME". HE Gave HIS Life To Enable your surrender. It is the purpose for which you were born, IF you Love HIM and Know WHO HE IS...


We Live In The Father's Accord as Ezekiel 36 Witnesses:
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.


If you would Be HIS, open your heart to The Father in Honest and Sincere Prayer and let it pour out...
Acknowledge Christ Jesus,
Admit your sins and repent of them,
Claim your share of Father's Infinite Mercy & Grace,
Give HIM your life, the good & the bad; holding nothing back and tell HIM you want to do HIS Will now & forever,
Ask HIM to Send HIS Holy Spirit to Dwell Within and Guide your life.
HE Will, if you are sincere and honest.


Maranatha!!!
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bro, the answers you see are bigger then christianity, christianity is product of humanity. There is a god for sure but it is not what you think. Everything is much bigger and far more simple compared to the "bible". It is just a book all answers lie within yourself, because you are a part of everything and everything is connected.
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Friend,

In regards to the Bible being 'just a book'....


1 Tim 3:14-17


"But continue thou in the things which thou has learned and has been assured of, knowing of whom thou has learned them,
And from a child thou has known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."



Please keep this in mind, OP, that the path you are on must line up with the Word/Scripture....if it is indeed from God.

My hardest answers were from the Word. Either directly, or the Word has confirmed what I had been made aware of. Also the answers were a comfort to me as I knew that the Lord has specifically answered me, which has built up my faith TREMENDOUSLY!


God Bless All,and please keep the Superstorm survivors in your prayers hf
daughter in NYC
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What the hell kind of gibberish are you posting here?

God isn't In Relationship with those who haven't surrendered Unto HIS Will.


Nothing about Loving Christ Jesus and Knowing HE IS God The Son and your Redeemer & Saviour. You had some wild dreams and want God to seek you. Such is your carnal heart doing its thing. Also proof of your alienation from God.


Faith w/o works is dead.
Time to make your Leap Of Faith and Trust God Fully with every aspect of your life and give HIM control of your life and seek HIS Guidance and Will for you... IF you would Be HIS...


The Gospel is not written as a For Dummies guide. Coming Unto The Father is a matter of your heart, not your studied intellect or acquired beliefs you agree with.

God The Father Sent God The Son to be the Blood Sacrifice, Propitiation For Sin, so that HE Could Receive and Look Upon you should you decide to make your surrender.

In John 14:6 Jesus Says, "... No man Cometh Unto The Father But BY ME". HE Gave HIS Life To Enable your surrender. It is the purpose for which you were born, IF you Love HIM and Know WHO HE IS...


We Live In The Father's Accord as Ezekiel 36 Witnesses:
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.


If you would Be HIS, open your heart to The Father in Honest and Sincere Prayer and let it pour out...
Acknowledge Christ Jesus,
Admit your sins and repent of them,
Claim your share of Father's Infinite Mercy & Grace,
Give HIM your life, the good & the bad; holding nothing back and tell HIM you want to do HIS Will now & forever,
Ask HIM to Send HIS Holy Spirit to Dwell Within and Guide your life.
HE Will, if you are sincere and honest.


Maranatha!!!
 Quoting: Lester 26898212


God is in a relationship with every living creature in the universe.

NOT just your select church/religion/cult/ect.

He is more powerful than you think.





GLP