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Ok I am at the fork in the road. Seriously. In my confusion I feel like giving up. I don't know what is going on. I believe I sought out God I believe Jesus spoke to me telling me to have Faith....3 times...have faith... It's a long story but He revealed Himself to me.. so with that I was told things to come and was told Jesus' words which I read in the bible after the fact... And no I was not reading the bible before...ever! There was a lot of symbolism... Ok well this was 6 years ago .. some things have come to pass but not the main thing. Now I just don't know why this has all happened Plus I have had several dreams the. Past year and a half ...and I don't know what is going on. I don't know what happened or why or why things continue to happen . I feel like forgetting this whole thing its too much I want answers I want to know the truth and if I roll with this I know its a dangerous road ... I am at the fork.. I don't know what to do because I don't have all the answers ...what if He didn't really reveal Himself you know I don't even know what happened anymore so ill be walking by some sort of lie.. yet what if He did and He did speak all these things and I let the whole thing go... I can't be half way with it I'm either in or out....I am not a church going liar who thinks there is no road to actually walk.. so I am at the fork in the road ...knowing the risks on each road. I am either about to let the whole God experience go and forget it because its been in my head for six years or roll with it ... Did anyone have an experience of God where He told you something to come and you had to wait?? and it either happened or didn'?? And how did this affect your faith?
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A similar thing happened to me the last 8 years. I was shocked, I was confused. I was living my dreams I had years before, God was reviling himself to me as he is to you. God I am and all is of I God. Do not fear just accept the truth. Incredible peace will come to you; emotions like fear, ego and anxiety will disappear. You will start gaining wisdom and insight in life. I wish you well brother/ Sister in your new life.
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What the hell kind of gibberish are you posting here?

God isn't In Relationship with those who haven't surrendered Unto HIS Will.


Nothing about Loving Christ Jesus and Knowing HE IS God The Son and your Redeemer & Saviour. You had some wild dreams and want God to seek you. Such is your carnal heart doing its thing. Also proof of your alienation from God.


Faith w/o works is dead.
Time to make your Leap Of Faith and Trust God Fully with every aspect of your life and give HIM control of your life and seek HIS Guidance and Will for you... IF you would Be HIS...


The Gospel is not written as a For Dummies guide. Coming Unto The Father is a matter of your heart, not your studied intellect or acquired beliefs you agree with.

God The Father Sent God The Son to be the Blood Sacrifice, Propitiation For Sin, so that HE Could Receive and Look Upon you should you decide to make your surrender.

In John 14:6 Jesus Says, "... No man Cometh Unto The Father But BY ME". HE Gave HIS Life To Enable your surrender. It is the purpose for which you were born, IF you Love HIM and Know WHO HE IS...


We Live In The Father's Accord as Ezekiel 36 Witnesses:
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.


If you would Be HIS, open your heart to The Father in Honest and Sincere Prayer and let it pour out...
Acknowledge Christ Jesus,
Admit your sins and repent of them,
Claim your share of Father's Infinite Mercy & Grace,
Give HIM your life, the good & the bad; holding nothing back and tell HIM you want to do HIS Will now & forever,
Ask HIM to Send HIS Holy Spirit to Dwell Within and Guide your life.
HE Will, if you are sincere and honest.


Maranatha!!!
 Quoting: Lester 26898212


He earnestly reached out for help from Christians, and your best response is to chastise him for it? How much of what you wrote do you think got through to him after you called what he wrote gibberish. He knows he's confused, he doesn't need you to remind him.
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What the hell kind of gibberish are you posting here?

God isn't In Relationship with those who haven't surrendered Unto HIS Will.


Nothing about Loving Christ Jesus and Knowing HE IS God The Son and your Redeemer & Saviour. You had some wild dreams and want God to seek you. Such is your carnal heart doing its thing. Also proof of your alienation from God.


Faith w/o works is dead.
Time to make your Leap Of Faith and Trust God Fully with every aspect of your life and give HIM control of your life and seek HIS Guidance and Will for you... IF you would Be HIS...


The Gospel is not written as a For Dummies guide. Coming Unto The Father is a matter of your heart, not your studied intellect or acquired beliefs you agree with.

God The Father Sent God The Son to be the Blood Sacrifice, Propitiation For Sin, so that HE Could Receive and Look Upon you should you decide to make your surrender.

In John 14:6 Jesus Says, "... No man Cometh Unto The Father But BY ME". HE Gave HIS Life To Enable your surrender. It is the purpose for which you were born, IF you Love HIM and Know WHO HE IS...


We Live In The Father's Accord as Ezekiel 36 Witnesses:
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.


If you would Be HIS, open your heart to The Father in Honest and Sincere Prayer and let it pour out...
Acknowledge Christ Jesus,
Admit your sins and repent of them,
Claim your share of Father's Infinite Mercy & Grace,
Give HIM your life, the good & the bad; holding nothing back and tell HIM you want to do HIS Will now & forever,
Ask HIM to Send HIS Holy Spirit to Dwell Within and Guide your life.
HE Will, if you are sincere and honest.


Maranatha!!!
 Quoting: Lester 26898212


He earnestly reached out for help from Christians, and your best response is to chastise him for it? How much of what you wrote do you think got through to him after you called what he wrote gibberish. He knows he's confused, he doesn't need you to remind him.
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Ok I will Try to break down my story. At 18 I knew I didn't know God...I didn't know if He was or not. So I started praying at night ...for months ...being honest with Him . then in September 2006 my ex bf invited me on a motorcycle trip to a place maybe 8 hours away... For some reason something (not me) told me I would die ..and it wasn't so much fear of the motorcycle something kept telling me I would die for sure if I went on the trip. It's hard to explain ...kind of like you are going on a plane and something keeps screaming at you the plane will crash. It was that bad. So the day comes to go and I am thinking I won't go for sure ... I get to my bfs house and its down to the minute ..come or stay. His mom had a picture of Jesus on the wall..she is catholic ... I looked at His face and asked Him if He was truly showing me I would die or what.. He told ke to have faith ...I asked again... He said have faith. 3 times. So I was like ok I will trust Him whether I die or not it doesn't matter because I trust Him. So we left and along the way were Jesus signs and 777 everywhere... Like everything costed 7.77 and I kept being drawn to the number. We were in a parking lot and He said turn left and walk to the end of the lot. I did and I found a shiny metal trash looking thing He said pick it up, I did and turned it over and it was a picture of Jesus...it looked like a piece of metal though.. there were things like this on the way. As we went up the mountain only maybe a couple hours from our destination the sky was purple the moon was insane and well I remember the sky at that moment because I saw myself in spirit standing in front of God and Gods pen. Really. It was a fast motion of writing ...in the spirit. No colors just spirit ...its hard to explain... Umm lets see so maybe 10 min later we crashed ...well we tipped rounding the corner cuz of all our stupid stuff but we almost flew into the rock. We were fine it only hurt my leg. So we get back on after a few minutes and we tipped again but it wasn't as bad. Whatever anyway we wound up getting to our camp site it had 777. So the whole mountain experience was awesome... I realized all nature has Gods name written all over it. I looked up and felt the Spirit...that He holds everything together. I felt it!! I realized Jesus is God. He told me He was real. He told me I would wear white ... I am His bride... Seemed weird at The time. The symbolism was when He told me to do some things ..like I was barefoot and He told me to run over these bushes ..over the snakes. Now I don't know if there were snakes or not but the general thing was with faith nothing can hurt you plus now I read the authority to trample on snakes. He told me to drink from the river.. I don't know things like that that I read in the bible. After the fact. Umm I know I am missing a lot. Sometimes I read then I remember something and think oh yeah!! You know.. well anyway on the way back He told me to look back keep looking keep looking ..it was night time and after a couple min between some hills a giant white cross appeared lit up. He told me things to come personally and in the world
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CHristians are the *Church*


Jesus is returning for his CHURCH, he is not coming back for a building...

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For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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Ok I will Try to break down my story. At 18 I knew I didn't know God...I didn't know if He was or not. So I started praying at night ...for months ...being honest with Him . then in September 2006 my ex bf invited me on a motorcycle trip to a place maybe 8 hours away... For some reason something (not me) told me I would die ..and it wasn't so much fear of the motorcycle something kept telling me I would die for sure if I went on the trip. It's hard to explain ...kind of like you are going on a plane and something keeps screaming at you the plane will crash. It was that bad. So the day comes to go and I am thinking I won't go for sure ... I get to my bfs house and its down to the minute ..come or stay. His mom had a picture of Jesus on the wall..she is catholic ... I looked at His face and asked Him if He was truly showing me I would die or what.. He told ke to have faith ...I asked again... He said have faith. 3 times. So I was like ok I will trust Him whether I die or not it doesn't matter because I trust Him. So we left and along the way were Jesus signs and 777 everywhere... Like everything costed 7.77 and I kept being drawn to the number. We were in a parking lot and He said turn left and walk to the end of the lot. I did and I found a shiny metal trash looking thing He said pick it up, I did and turned it over and it was a picture of Jesus...it looked like a piece of metal though.. there were things like this on the way. As we went up the mountain only maybe a couple hours from our destination the sky was purple the moon was insane and well I remember the sky at that moment because I saw myself in spirit standing in front of God and Gods pen. Really. It was a fast motion of writing ...in the spirit. No colors just spirit ...its hard to explain... Umm lets see so maybe 10 min later we crashed ...well we tipped rounding the corner cuz of all our stupid stuff but we almost flew into the rock. We were fine it only hurt my leg. So we get back on after a few minutes and we tipped again but it wasn't as bad. Whatever anyway we wound up getting to our camp site it had 777. So the whole mountain experience was awesome... I realized all nature has Gods name written all over it. I looked up and felt the Spirit...that He holds everything together. I felt it!! I realized Jesus is God. He told me He was real. He told me I would wear white ... I am His bride... Seemed weird at The time. The symbolism was when He told me to do some things ..like I was barefoot and He told me to run over these bushes ..over the snakes. Now I don't know if there were snakes or not but the general thing was with faith nothing can hurt you plus now I read the authority to trample on snakes. He told me to drink from the river.. I don't know things like that that I read in the bible. After the fact. Umm I know I am missing a lot. Sometimes I read then I remember something and think oh yeah!! You know.. well anyway on the way back He told me to look back keep looking keep looking ..it was night time and after a couple min between some hills a giant white cross appeared lit up. He told me things to come personally and in the world
 Quoting: natalie op 4142982

Are you the OP? Different user numbers...

Anyway, knowing God is real and Jesus can save you isn't all it takes to belong to him. Satan believes God and Jesus are real. What it takes is to want to be reconciled to God, to want to spend eternity with him and be his adopted child. And if that's what you want, just put your trust in Jesus alone, and believe that he rose from the dead. That's really all it takes to be saved.

But being born is only the beginning of life, not the end. After that comes a long period of growth. Read the Bible in a modern language version; there's nothing sacred about the King James and a lot of the words have changed meanings from 400 years ago. The NIV is fine and accurate, or even the New Living translation; great for a first reading. Also find some experienced Christians to help you understand it.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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So I came back home ... Oh btw I was singing to Him on the trip it only led ke to praise...ok so I get back home telling my family everything .. and maybe I was too urgent I don't know but I realized its real no joke so you know.. I told my family and I ended up being thrown into a mental institution ..I was on retard pills for over a year. I was told God does not speak to people ... I was told I am insane... All pilled up I believed their lies..since then I always kept it in the back of ky head. Now againthhis past year I am getting dreams one I'm dying and sinking..and I am being pulled down. I cried out have mercy on me forgive me ... I trust You with my soul my life ...I trust You!! Then I woke up. Another I had a few months ago... I was driving and almost got in a car accident with ny family in another car..I was trying to do a u turn and their car prevented me from doing it ... Only for a little bit. Then I drove down the street..at night and turned right. The street got darker and darker and I decided I better turn around and leave that st. It was so dark but I still could see the outline of the houses. I got to the end of the st and it was a dead end. Next thing I know I'm on a bike. So I peddle up a driveway to turn around and go back and at the top of the driveway all the sudden I am on foot. I turn around to walk out of that dark dead end st and its pitch black. Blacker than blind really. Whereas before I could at least see houses and driveway it turned black! So I thought great I am here all alone its late now scared.. I thought I have to trust God to lead me out of this st ... I will have to trust Him to lead me back to the lighted street. As I woke up the words flew in my head... A man who walks in darkness does not know where he is going.. He put that in my head because I was so tired I was not caring about anything but going back to sleep. Right as I woke those words. I have had other dreams... I have had a few demon attacks... Not the spiritual battle where people arr involved lying to you and attacking you..that too but one where a spirit came up in my face...I was not asleep it was no dream and it looked like dust but an evil face Plus I felt the presence of pure evil ...it came right up to my face ... Well I am rambling but geez I don't know what happened. I've prayed the prayer asking for His will so many times ...but I don't know I am so confused based on the revelation whether it was Him or not. If I let that go I let ny experience of Jesus as God go... My family tells me to forget about it la di da
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Yeah my numbers change because I am banned so I use my cell phone to post now
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Yeah my numbers change because I am banned so I use my cell phone to post now
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Yeah my numbers change because I am banned so I use my cell phone to post now
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Ah. Well, take a look at what I said about being saved and let me know if you have any questions. And rest assured that hearing the voice of God is not proof of insanity. ;-)
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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The experience truly changed my life ...it was a moment that stays with you forever I can't really explain it there was so much in such a short amount of time
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To date all the prophecies of the Bible have been fulfilled....how can that be by chance? There are some real legitimate reasons to believe.
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Absolutely. In these end times Satan will be working overtime to test you. It is difficult.
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Ok I am at the fork in the road. Seriously. In my confusion I feel like giving up. I don't know what is going on. I believe I sought out God I believe Jesus spoke to me telling me to have Faith....3 times...have faith... It's a long story but He revealed Himself to me.. so with that I was told things to come and was told Jesus' words which I read in the bible after the fact... And no I was not reading the bible before...ever! There was a lot of symbolism... Ok well this was 6 years ago .. some things have come to pass but not the main thing. Now I just don't know why this has all happened Plus I have had several dreams the. Past year and a half ...and I don't know what is going on. I don't know what happened or why or why things continue to happen . I feel like forgetting this whole thing its too much I want answers I want to know the truth and if I roll with this I know its a dangerous road ... I am at the fork.. I don't know what to do because I don't have all the answers ...what if He didn't really reveal Himself you know I don't even know what happened anymore so ill be walking by some sort of lie.. yet what if He did and He did speak all these things and I let the whole thing go... I can't be half way with it I'm either in or out....I am not a church going liar who thinks there is no road to actually walk.. so I am at the fork in the road ...knowing the risks on each road. I am either about to let the whole God experience go and forget it because its been in my head for six years or roll with it ... Did anyone have an experience of God where He told you something to come and you had to wait?? and it either happened or didn'?? And how did this affect your faith?
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All I can tell you is I was a non-believer 23 out of my 24 years of my life, and God called me out of the wilderness showed me crazy things kinda like moses and the burning bush. Jesus Christ is the saviour, the life the truth. Pursuit a relationship with him with all your heart. The Holy Bible (KJV) is the living breathing word of god. If you have any questions regarding the christian walk of life, feel free to email me and I will help you to the best of my ability. ([email protected]) Satan will try and make you think your following for nothing when things don't come to pass and try to cause confusion and make you think your missing out. Don't turn away from God, he offered you something beautiful that most people that exist never get the privileged to be offered. God Bless friend, hope this helps.

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It's kinda of funny, I just read this. I was just reading in the bible tonight. Short version. You have to accept you don't have all the answer's and trust in the Lord. We all struggle brother. I think that is part of the walk. When we make mistakes and ask him forgiveness. As a human we will never be perfect. Thank God we live under grace and our sin's are forgiven.
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Ok I am at the fork in the road. Seriously. In my confusion I feel like giving up. I don't know what is going on. I believe I sought out God I believe Jesus spoke to me telling me to have Faith....3 times...have faith... It's a long story but He revealed Himself to me.. so with that I was told things to come and was told Jesus' words which I read in the bible after the fact... And no I was not reading the bible before...ever! There was a lot of symbolism... Ok well this was 6 years ago .. some things have come to pass but not the main thing. Now I just don't know why this has all happened Plus I have had several dreams the. Past year and a half ...and I don't know what is going on. I don't know what happened or why or why things continue to happen . I feel like forgetting this whole thing its too much I want answers I want to know the truth and if I roll with this I know its a dangerous road ... I am at the fork.. I don't know what to do because I don't have all the answers ...what if He didn't really reveal Himself you know I don't even know what happened anymore so ill be walking by some sort of lie.. yet what if He did and He did speak all these things and I let the whole thing go... I can't be half way with it I'm either in or out....I am not a church going liar who thinks there is no road to actually walk.. so I am at the fork in the road ...knowing the risks on each road. I am either about to let the whole God experience go and forget it because its been in my head for six years or roll with it ... Did anyone have an experience of God where He told you something to come and you had to wait?? and it either happened or didn'?? And how did this affect your faith?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2119558


You need to trust in His timing, and also that he loves you (even if it seems like He doesn't). Also trust that he doesn't allow or prevent anything in your life unless it's for your ultimate good, no matter how painful at the time. Our home is not here. This world is dying and passing away. This world is like a mud pie on a dung hill compared to the feast that awaits in eternity.

I have never had God specifically tell me what was going to happen in my life. But there have been things - like a wife and children - that I prayed for for over 20 years as an adult before He affirmatively answered!!! Be patient and know that if you really needed and were ready for what you asked for - if it was good for you - you would have it already. Concentrate on your relationship with Jesus and trying to overcome some of your struggles with sin (we all have them) and maturing as a believer. Also, you do need to fellowship with other people who believe in Jesus. For years I felt like you about church, but I'm glad I now attend. I just overlook/forgive the stupid and hypocritical things Christians do and say (after I get done being annoyed by them), and remember that I'm at church for Jesus - to worship Him and listen to some Biblically sound teaching from our pastor. And I also try to remember I'm also a hypocrite sometimes and have been forgiven by God and need to give people a break.
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I think of it like how in the bible God spoke to Abraham and told him to leave his place and go to a land God will show him. I mean so it took a leap of faith to actually take the journey.. but if no land showed up it would make him question who actually spoke to him. Then how could he know the truth?? That's where I am at. Like if I sought out God... He tells me to have faith ...I realize faith is not how people define it... And God is an actual reality that hardly any seem to have... Sorry but its truth..then I take my eyes of Him and start trusting people... Now I realize people lie and they all say something different..they can't even get their story straight. Well now I want to have that faith again faith meaning belief trust nothings impossible no doubt no fear no worry all that faith brings...love peace joy ... I felt all that but believed people's lies...geez. now I want to come back more faith than ever in Him and never let it go...yet I am doubting what happened.. I don't have a clue. But I believe He is calling me ... I am trying to answer !!! I know the good and the bad that comes with that. The facti even care about the bad means my faith is non existent..
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God showed me I am in a dark dead end st without Him. And its so true. That is my life... And a couple months ago I had a dream satan was eating me on a plate!! I was meat.. on a plate...it was sick!!!
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I think of it like how in the bible God spoke to Abraham and told him to leave his place and go to a land God will show him. I mean so it took a leap of faith to actually take the journey.. but if no land showed up it would make him question who actually spoke to him. Then how could he know the truth?? That's where I am at. Like if I sought out God... He tells me to have faith ...I realize faith is not how people define it... And God is an actual reality that hardly any seem to have... Sorry but its truth..then I take my eyes of Him and start trusting people... Now I realize people lie and they all say something different..they can't even get their story straight. Well now I want to have that faith again faith meaning belief trust nothings impossible no doubt no fear no worry all that faith brings...love peace joy ... I felt all that but believed people's lies...geez. now I want to come back more faith than ever in Him and never let it go...yet I am doubting what happened.. I don't have a clue. But I believe He is calling me ... I am trying to answer !!! I know the good and the bad that comes with that. The facti even care about the bad means my faith is non existent..
 Quoting: op 4142982


As I mentioned before, the Christian faith is based upon the fact that Jesus rose from the dead. This is a fact of history, something objective (outside of yourself). Abraham didn't have that to go by.

If you just lean on your experiences and feelings, you'll be "tossed around by every wind", but if you "put down the anchor", meaning base your faith on the resurrection of Jesus alone, you will hold strong. Trust Jesus, not yourself.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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I don't know why it is so hard for me to trust Him to let God I am in a pickle!!!! :/ thanks for responsescool2
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op needs to be a little clear in his question imo
op seems a little excited and scattered
Im not sure what he looking for
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I am confused! I just want to know if God spoke something/ gave a promise to people and if it happened... though you had to wait. I am at the fork in the road because I know walking in the light is a decision I have to make. Like now. It's coming up to decision time. Right or left. I either forget the whole thing and live my life and stop thinking about it or completely surrender to Him and trust Him though now I am confused and doubt
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It's a serious road to walk it has nothing to do with going to church on Sunday. People who think they are saved cuz of a magic prayer never took any road...they are lukewarm ...I am trying to walk through the door yet not having a clue what I am supposed to do
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I am confused! I just want to know if God spoke something/ gave a promise to people and if it happened... though you had to wait. I am at the fork in the road because I know walking in the light is a decision I have to make. Like now. It's coming up to decision time. Right or left. I either forget the whole thing and live my life and stop thinking about it or completely surrender to Him and trust Him though now I am confused and doubt
 Quoting: op 4142982


I can't think of any belief or philosophy that will ever give you as much assurance or hope as trusting Jesus. There will always be challenges in life, things we can't control, regardless of whether you believe in God or not.

Instead of trying to figure out if/what God is saying to you, just decide whether you believe Jesus rose from the dead, and whether you want to trust only him to get you to heaven. You'll drive yourself up a wall trying to interpret all this other stuff. Just relax and don't worry about what message you may be seeing; it won't matter until you have Jesus first.

Gotta get some sleep and will be offline till tomorrow, but please try and focus on the most important thing first.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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Re: serious christians not church people i need advice
It's a serious road to walk it has nothing to do with going to church on Sunday. People who think they are saved cuz of a magic prayer never took any road...they are lukewarm ...I am trying to walk through the door yet not having a clue what I am supposed to do
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There's nothing to do but decide whether you believe Jesus rose from the dead, and whether you want to put your trust in him to get you to heaven. I and many others have looked at the evidence and are convinced that this is a fact of history, so the only real issue is whether you will trust him. Nothing else matters until then. That's how you walk through the door.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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Re: serious christians not church people i need advice
I am confused! I just want to know if God spoke something/ gave a promise to people and if it happened... though you had to wait. I am at the fork in the road because I know walking in the light is a decision I have to make. Like now. It's coming up to decision time. Right or left. I either forget the whole thing and live my life and stop thinking about it or completely surrender to Him and trust Him though now I am confused and doubt
 Quoting: op 4142982


Read my earlier post to you and what other's are saying on here about Jesus. One road (which is broad and wide) leads to destruction. The other road (which is difficult and narrow) leads to eternal life. Put your faith and Jesus and not only will you be saved, but your heart will be filled, old "bad habits" will wane, and you will never be let down. Some things just happen in God's time, and by his will. Which often doesn't agree with OUR will or timing.
-Steve
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Re: serious christians not church people i need advice
Bible way to Heaven

Know your a sinner
Rom 3:23 KJV - For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
realize the penalty for Sin..hell
Rev 21:8 KJV - But the feareful, and unbeleeving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone , which is the second death.
Rev 20:15 KJV - And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Who is he that overcometh?
1Jo 5:5 KJV - Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
Gospel
Rom 5:8 KJV - But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
1Cr 15:3 KJV - For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Cr 15:4 KJV - And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Jesus wants to give us the Gift of eternal Life for free its a GIFT!!!!!
Rom 6:23 KJV - For the wages of sin [is] death: but the gift of God [is] eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Jesus Said:
Jhn 5:24 KJV - Verily, verily I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation: but is passed from death unto life.
Rom 10:9 KJV - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart, that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 KJV - For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Rom 10:11 KJV - For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him, shall not be ashamed.
Here is a simple prayer to ask for salvation and trusting on Christ to save you and take you to heaven, Its not just words that save but what you believe in your heart.. Rom 10:9
Dear Jesus I know im a sinner , I know i deserve to go to Hell, I realize now you died and rose again for me and are alive forever more, Please Save me and take me to heaven when i die.. I'm only trusting you Jesus Amen...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26698711

Your only forgetting one part. the bible says over and over again that we must repent (change) from a life of sin, and even more so, that we must not life carnally, by the lusts of the flesh, or the lusts of the eyes. If anyone wants scriptures to back this up I'll gladly provide. God Bless.
-Steve
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Re: serious christians not church people i need advice
Ok I am at the fork in the road. Seriously. In my confusion I feel like giving up. I don't know what is going on. I believe I sought out God I believe Jesus spoke to me telling me to have Faith....3 times...have faith... It's a long story but He revealed Himself to me.. so with that I was told things to come and was told Jesus' words which I read in the bible after the fact... And no I was not reading the bible before...ever! There was a lot of symbolism... Ok well this was 6 years ago .. some things have come to pass but not the main thing. Now I just don't know why this has all happened Plus I have had several dreams the. Past year and a half ...and I don't know what is going on. I don't know what happened or why or why things continue to happen . I feel like forgetting this whole thing its too much I want answers I want to know the truth and if I roll with this I know its a dangerous road ... I am at the fork.. I don't know what to do because I don't have all the answers ...what if He didn't really reveal Himself you know I don't even know what happened anymore so ill be walking by some sort of lie.. yet what if He did and He did speak all these things and I let the whole thing go... I can't be half way with it I'm either in or out....I am not a church going liar who thinks there is no road to actually walk.. so I am at the fork in the road ...knowing the risks on each road. I am either about to let the whole God experience go and forget it because its been in my head for six years or roll with it ... Did anyone have an experience of God where He told you something to come and you had to wait?? and it either happened or didn'?? And how did this affect your faith?
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This is one of my all time favorites songs OP, listen to the words. "Thy Will be Done" :) I struggle too OP.


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"The grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of our God stands forever."
Isaiah 40:8
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To date all the prophecies of the Bible have been fulfilled....how can that be by chance? There are some real legitimate reasons to believe.
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Absolutely. In these end times Satan will be working overtime to test you. It is difficult.
 Quoting: Kirk


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Re: serious christians not church people i need advice
I don't know why it is so hard for me to trust Him to let God I am in a pickle!!!! :/ thanks for responsescool2
 Quoting: op 4142982


To trust Him, to exercise the faith He placed in you, requires obedience. How? Jesus said, "If you be My disciple, deny self, take up your cross, and follow me."

Deny self = Reduce the influence of your flesh, thoughts and emotions through surrendering to His will. The more you die to self, the closer you will get to Him. The Bible is one tool that hurts and kills the hold of the carnal. In turn, the Spirit increases your connection to the Father.

Take up your cross = Live for the Gospel and be willing to suffer and die for the Gospel. All of the good and bad things that happen in your life is for the refinement and freedom of your spirit.

Follow me = Do what I do and say; do what the Holy Spirit guides you to do.

You have to be ready to give up this world, your fleshly desires, and being ruled by the natural heart and mind. Remember, His logic is not our logic; this is a supernatural thing, have no doubt about that!





GLP