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Moontard here: THE friggin MOON is NOT RIGHT!

 
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Hi OP, TrinityMountain, Saint Leibowitz, Chas, donnamickey, ~Spaze*Man~, waxonwaxoff, LordBeagle72, Em18966, Possum, Kissplash, The Answer, grefey and all the ACs.

Its day now in Australia, Europe, and all over the USA.

Did someone get up early morning to look at the moon at dawn?

Could I fix it?
Was it waning from right to left instead of top to bottom?

I am stretched to the breaking point - please tell me if I could fix it.



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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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oh no the moon is doing the same thing it has for the last 300 million years. it is sad that you people have never paid any attention to how our system works. the Earth has a wobble, so the moon is going to appear to move up and down during the seasons, just like the sun does. so in the summer months a waning crescent will appear on the top left side on the moon, in the winter months it will appear to be bottom left side. nothing has changed.
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Erm the Moon only been in our Orbit for approx 13500 years give or take a week.
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damned
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I noticed this too, last night. Very strange. Is it possible that the moon was bombarded by something (an asteroid, etc) that was large enough to knock it out of its normal orbit? If that is the case, could the moon's new orbit slam it into the earth, destroying us all?

AHHHHH!!!!!

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Don't worry...real karma will be returned to you. You can thank me later!
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So what's up?

You didn't get up early morning or you realised that you made a fool of yourself?


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
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I saw that the other day too .. (in S. FL) .. and was like "huh, I don't remember the moon waning from the top" ..

LoL .. I love when I'm not the only crazy one ..
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Wet moon.....Look it up. Happens this time EVERY year.
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Hey I am 46 and you are correct.
If people would just get calendars from the past when the moon use to be a real quarter moon like this---> ( and so on. not a frown quarter moon.
The moon has changed and it seems like it started a few years ago.
I can not be specific when it changed to what it is today.
They blamed it on the winter soltrace or some kind of shit and said it would return to the way it was after the winter soltrace shit was over but it never happened.
The moon has never looked like it does today.
Just look at a calender and look at the times it says there will be a quarter moon and so on.
None of the pics on the calendars look like our moon today.
Signs in the moons?
End times?
In my opinion= yes.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Sadly the experts don't respond to all this BS. But I can't blaim them, so much ignorence in one thread, it's hilarious.

I recommend you all to read "Astronomy for Dummies".
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Wet moon.....Look it up. Happens this time EVERY year.
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You couldn't be more wrong.. The Wet Moon only happens in THE WINTER in the Northern Hemisphere..Between January and February.. This wet moon has been around for the past 3 years, even during the summer months.. I mean how fucking stupid do you think we are? And don't give me that "If the moon was fucked up, thousands if not millions of amateur astronomers would be saying something about it"

WELL, HERE THE FUCK WE ARE SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT IT! Assholes..

"The terms wet moon and dry moon originate from Hawaiian mythology, where it was thought that the moon appeared as a bowl which would fill up with rain. The period where this is most common, January 20 - February 18, corresponds with Kaelo the Water Bearer in Hawaiian astrology and makes the moon known as the "dripping wet moon". As the year passes into summer, the crescent shape shifts, pouring out the water and causing the summer rains. After the "bowl" empties, it dries out and rights itself, creating the "dry moon"."

I mean, at least do research on your own assumptions before spreading bullshit and looking like a complete fucking fool.
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Are you fucking retarded?

From your own link!

"The terms wet moon and dry moon originate from Hawaiian mythology, where it was thought that the moon appeared as a bowl which would fill up with rain. The period where this is most common, January 20 - February 18, corresponds with Kaelo the Water Bearer in Hawaiian astrology and makes the moon known as the "dripping wet moon". As the year passes into summer, the crescent shape shifts, pouring out the water and causing the summer rains. After the "bowl" empties, it dries out and rights itself, creating the "dry moon"."

January and February are not THIS TIME EVERY YEAR!
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Sadly the experts don't respond to all this BS. But I can't blaim them, so much ignorence in one thread, it's hilarious.

I recommend you all to read "Astronomy for Dummies".
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Probably because this happens every year.....Its getting old. Sigh.
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Wet moon.....Look it up. Happens this time EVERY year.
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You couldn't be more wrong.. The Wet Moon only happens in THE WINTER in the Northern Hemisphere..Between January and February.. This wet moon has been around for the past 3 years, even during the summer months.. I mean how fucking stupid do you think we are? And don't give me that "If the moon was fucked up, thousands if not millions of amateur astronomers would be saying something about it"

WELL, HERE THE FUCK WE ARE SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT IT! Assholes..

"The terms wet moon and dry moon originate from Hawaiian mythology, where it was thought that the moon appeared as a bowl which would fill up with rain. The period where this is most common, January 20 - February 18, corresponds with Kaelo the Water Bearer in Hawaiian astrology and makes the moon known as the "dripping wet moon". As the year passes into summer, the crescent shape shifts, pouring out the water and causing the summer rains. After the "bowl" empties, it dries out and rights itself, creating the "dry moon"."

I mean, at least do research on your own assumptions before spreading bullshit and looking like a complete fucking fool.
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Not going to even bother anymore with this, type of response.....Getting really old after all these years. Kinda sad when I think about it.
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Sadly the experts don't respond to all this BS. But I can't blaim them, so much ignorence in one thread, it's hilarious.

I recommend you all to read "Astronomy for Dummies".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1289039

Probably because this happens every year.....Its getting old. Sigh.
 Quoting: Blue Skies


Hey fucktard.. I proved your theory wrong.. Using your own reference, at that..

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Are you fucking retarded?

From your own link!

"The terms wet moon and dry moon originate from Hawaiian mythology, where it was thought that the moon appeared as a bowl which would fill up with rain. The period where this is most common, January 20 - February 18, corresponds with Kaelo the Water Bearer in Hawaiian astrology and makes the moon known as the "dripping wet moon". As the year passes into summer, the crescent shape shifts, pouring out the water and causing the summer rains. After the "bowl" empties, it dries out and rights itself, creating the "dry moon"."

January and February are not THIS TIME EVERY YEAR!
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Wet moon.....Look it up. Happens this time EVERY year.
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You couldn't be more wrong.. The Wet Moon only happens in THE WINTER in the Northern Hemisphere..Between January and February.. This wet moon has been around for the past 3 years, even during the summer months.. I mean how fucking stupid do you think we are? And don't give me that "If the moon was fucked up, thousands if not millions of amateur astronomers would be saying something about it"

WELL, HERE THE FUCK WE ARE SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT IT! Assholes..

"The terms wet moon and dry moon originate from Hawaiian mythology, where it was thought that the moon appeared as a bowl which would fill up with rain. The period where this is most common, January 20 - February 18, corresponds with Kaelo the Water Bearer in Hawaiian astrology and makes the moon known as the "dripping wet moon". As the year passes into summer, the crescent shape shifts, pouring out the water and causing the summer rains. After the "bowl" empties, it dries out and rights itself, creating the "dry moon"."

I mean, at least do research on your own assumptions before spreading bullshit and looking like a complete fucking fool.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27041131

Not going to even bother anymore with this, type of response.....Getting really old after all these years. Kinda sad when I think about it.
 Quoting: Blue Skies


Ahh so, you have been proven wrong with your own fucking source, so now you can't be bothered with this? What the fuck does it say in your link? Between January and February! READ IT FUCKHOLE!

This is NOT January, nor is it February, It's fucking November!
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Are you fucking retarded?

From your own link!

"The terms wet moon and dry moon originate from Hawaiian mythology, where it was thought that the moon appeared as a bowl which would fill up with rain. The period where this is most common, January 20 - February 18, corresponds with Kaelo the Water Bearer in Hawaiian astrology and makes the moon known as the "dripping wet moon". As the year passes into summer, the crescent shape shifts, pouring out the water and causing the summer rains. After the "bowl" empties, it dries out and rights itself, creating the "dry moon"."

January and February are not THIS TIME EVERY YEAR!
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:kks102:
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Yes, you should hide your face.. Clown..
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Do you think this is REAL cause of earthquakes?

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Don't worry...real karma will be returned to you. You can thank me later!
 Quoting: Kissplash


So what's up?

You didn't get up early morning or you realised that you made a fool of yourself?


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 Quoting: Hydra


Number one: I couldn't see it if I tried today...clouds were along the back of my house and I live in the city. And whether or not I make a fool out of myself to you, family or friends, or strangers matters not to me.

Number two: I never said anything negative about anything you said on this thread so why worry about said karma? Guilty much? ummhummmm.

Number three: The only thing I did was question your pic in which you never answered any of my questions. If you're upset about that you're being kind of weird. I wouldn't be upset if I put my pics out and no one cared as I do it whenever time allows. I would care even less if I didn't take the photo.

Number four: Maybe I'll give out some good karma today to people who need it. Because what goes around, comes around. And I'm a good person despite all you may think. You don't know me. And at this point maybe that's best because the true nature of a person is found in the way they talk to a stranger.
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This shills get called out, proven to be full of shit, and then the thread gets buried?

cruise
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My question to the Moon-Tards:
Hi OP, TrinityMountain, Saint Leibowitz, Chas, donnamickey, ~Spaze*Man~, waxonwaxoff, LordBeagle72, Em18966, Possum, Kissplash, The Answer, grefey and all the ACs.

Its day now in Australia, Europe, and all over the USA.

Did someone get up early morning to look at the moon at dawn?

Could I fix it?
Was it waning from right to left instead of top to bottom?

I am stretched to the breaking point - please tell me if I could fix it.
 Quoting: Hydra


Your answer:
Don't worry...real karma will be returned to you. You can thank me later!
 Quoting: Kissplash

I think it's not an answer to my question.

This is a better one:
Number one: I couldn't see it if I tried today...clouds were along the back of my house and I live in the city. ...
 Quoting: Kissplash





Number two: I never said anything negative about anything you said on this thread so why worry about said karma? Guilty much? ummhummmm.
 Quoting: Kissplash

Did I? - Show me where I did.


Number three: The only thing I did was question your pic in which you never answered any of my questions. ...
 Quoting: Kissplash

Oh, I thought you made rhetorical questions.
But I'm pleased to answer: Look below the photo. And yes, in 1910 they already had artificial light.


Number four: Maybe I'll give out some good karma today to people who need it. Because what goes around, comes around.
 Quoting: Kissplash

Nice move.


Number four: And I'm a good person despite all you may think.
 Quoting: Kissplash

You can read my mind?


Number four: And at this point maybe that's best because the true nature of a person is found in the way they talk to a stranger.
 Quoting: Kissplash

Wise words - do they apply to you too?


Let's go back to number three:
Number three: The only thing I did was question your pic ...
 Quoting: Kissplash

Really?
Do I think it's [the moon] wrong in some way? Yes, because I've always watched the sky.
 Quoting: Kissplash

Ooops.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
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Again my question:

Hi OP, TrinityMountain, Saint Leibowitz, Chas, donnamickey, ~Spaze*Man~, waxonwaxoff, LordBeagle72, Em18966, Possum, The Answer, grefey and all the ACs.

Its day now in Australia, Europe, and all over the USA.

Did someone get up early morning to look at the moon at dawn?

Could I fix it?
Was it waning from right to left instead of top to bottom?

I am stretched to the breaking point - please tell me if I could fix it.



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 Quoting: Hydra

The answers:
Kissplash:
Cloudy and no moon visible - sad but OK.


How about the rest of you?
Estonia, Spain, UK, USA - all cloudy?


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
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I noticed it too, the moon, as viewed from Northern California was waning from the top down not from the side. I don't recall ever seeing it like that before. My viewing angle was looking due East and slightly north .move was moving from northeast to southwesterly direction .

Perhaps it always does this in late October early nov? I dunno...
Time to pull out some OLD encyclopedias that NASA hasn't edited....
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This shills get called out, proven to be full of shit, and then the thread gets buried?

cruise
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Oh really? Did you not look at the moon at dawn this morning? If you had, you would have realized the "shills" were right.
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I noticed it too, the moon, as viewed from Northern California was waning from the top down not from the side. I don't recall ever seeing it like that before. My viewing angle was looking due East and slightly north .move was moving from northeast to southwesterly direction .

Perhaps it always does this in late October early nov? I dunno...
Time to pull out some OLD encyclopedias that NASA hasn't edited....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25463516


Field rotation is not dependent on the season. And yes, field rotation was described long before NASA was founded. Here's a reference from 1900:
[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]
Siderostats and heliostats do not use polar alignment and are therefore subject to field rotation. So are you when you're viewing the moon by eye. This problem is eliminated in a polar aligned telescope and indeed the moon is seen to be waning from the side, not from the top, in such a telescope.
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Aww, what's the matter, no response? Didn't think so.
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Um I was a bit busy here but if you want a response here it is:
If you trust what the government sells you than I feel sorry for you because all they sell is BS.
 Quoting: Kissplash

Right, they're lying about field rotation. If you seriously believe that, and if you seriously believe that in the early 70's they "faked" that photo so that 40 years later I could come along and show that the moon's orientation is normal, then you're fucking insane.
I believe in amateur photos...like they ones that get passed down generation to generation. You trust your i-telescope? How about your digital telescope? You trust Stellarium (I'm having real trouble with this one...I don't trust it but it's all that I have)? You trust NASA?
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Yes I trust my telescope. I know how to polar align it jackass, and guess what I see when I do so... a vertical moon even when by eye it looks "horizontal" as it did this weekend! Guess what my amateur photo would have shown had I taken one of the moon this weekend? A vertical moon! Why? Because my telescope was polar aligned, as was nearly every serious amateur telescope back when the above photo was taken (telescopes used for astrophotography back then were all equatorial).
You know what I trust? My eyes. And my gut. And photos that never even dreamed of being photo-shopped. That's what I believe in.
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Photoshop didn't exist back then. Furthermore, there'd be no reason to fucking forge an image like that back then.
And I'll tell you something else. Even with a field rotation you would still see the pictures the same today as you did then if nothing has changed.
 Quoting: idiot

I JUST SHOWED YOU ONE YOU FUCKING MORON!
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And by the way idiot, if they faked that image of the rocket on the pad with the moon in the background in the 70's, why didn't anyone yell about it back then and scream "fake?" Because it was perfectly normal to see the moon like that, just as it is today! Tell me, how the fuck did the moon look vertical in my polar aligned telescope this weekend while by eye it looked "horizontal"? If it's not field rotation, then what is it? Hmm? Answer that. Oh, it's because my telescope has a computer in it? How does the computer magically rotate the image of the moon? Eh? It's polar aligned, it's a physical alignment, there's not a damn thing the computer can do to change that! Once polar aligned, the computer either puts the moon in the field of view, or it doesn't, there's nothing it can do to "rotate" the view of the moon to make it look normal! Learn some astronomy!
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You're a dumbass. NOBODY accused anyone of faking the photo 40 years ago. But, it would certainly be possible to take an old photo like that TODAY and use computer software to take a vertical crescent moon and tilt it to be hiorizontal. That's what I contend happened here. Your shill tactics of setting up an absurd accusation that nobody made won't work here wher epeople can think critically. Go take your PTB paycheck and shill elsewhere asshole.
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Hey I am 46 and you are correct.
If people would just get calendars from the past when the moon use to be a real quarter moon like this---> ( and so on. not a frown quarter moon.
The moon has changed and it seems like it started a few years ago.
I can not be specific when it changed to what it is today.
They blamed it on the winter soltrace or some kind of shit and said it would return to the way it was after the winter soltrace shit was over but it never happened.
The moon has never looked like it does today.
Just look at a calender and look at the times it says there will be a quarter moon and so on.
None of the pics on the calendars look like our moon today.
Signs in the moons?
End times?
In my opinion= yes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27101336


None of the pics on the calendars account for field rotation. Why should they show a sideways waning Moon when the amount it is rotated varies depending on the observer and the time observing? If it never looked like it does today then why did the ancient egyptians and shakespeare describe it?
If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly. - Danth's Law
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Wet moon.....Look it up. Happens this time EVERY year.
 Quoting: Blue Skies


You couldn't be more wrong.. The Wet Moon only happens in THE WINTER in the Northern Hemisphere..Between January and February.. This wet moon has been around for the past 3 years, even during the summer months.. I mean how fucking stupid do you think we are? And don't give me that "If the moon was fucked up, thousands if not millions of amateur astronomers would be saying something about it"

WELL, HERE THE FUCK WE ARE SAYING SOMETHING ABOUT IT! Assholes..

"The terms wet moon and dry moon originate from Hawaiian mythology, where it was thought that the moon appeared as a bowl which would fill up with rain. The period where this is most common, January 20 - February 18, corresponds with Kaelo the Water Bearer in Hawaiian astrology and makes the moon known as the "dripping wet moon". As the year passes into summer, the crescent shape shifts, pouring out the water and causing the summer rains. After the "bowl" empties, it dries out and rights itself, creating the "dry moon"."

I mean, at least do research on your own assumptions before spreading bullshit and looking like a complete fucking fool.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27041131


Actually an angled moon can happen any time of year. Certain times of the year are more common for certain phases because the moon's orbit is angled with respect to the ecliptic. The observer's location and observation time also matter. The wet moon reference refers to an extreme amount of apparent rotation for a single phase.
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