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My work buddies 7yr old daughter will die if Romney wins (pre-existing kidney condition)

 
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Fail. But, please continue to thrash. The liberals' panic pleases me.

Romney is not the far right-ist that you are trying to play him out to be. We're just voting against obama.

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Romney's plan does not remove requirements for pre-existing conditions.

One of the talking points that Democrats have used for years in defending Obamacare is that the law helps those with “pre-existing conditions” to get affordable insurance coverage. And when Mitt Romney explained in last week’s debate that his own health-reform plan would address those with pre-existing conditions, those same Democrats guffawed. But Romney’s plan for pre-existing conditions is superior to Obamacare’s. Here’s why.


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Re: My work buddies 7yr old daughter will die if Romney wins (pre-existing kidney condition)
My mother was on dialysis for about 5 years. She had insurance...that and a combination of medicaid paid for it. Dialysis is done 3 times a week at a dialysis clinic. Each treatment cost around $800...that's about $2400 a week. The clinics are filled with people and most are on medicaid. Your friend needs to find out what financial help is available and get on some transplant lists. Again, some good counseling on what financial assistance is available is needed.
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Re: My work buddies 7yr old daughter will die if Romney wins (pre-existing kidney condition)
What BS, if she has ESRD she automatically qualifies for Medicaid.

Obamacare offers PCIP for people with pre-existing conditions that can't get their own insurance.

Also she could dialyize at any county hospital.
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THis is NOT true

if the parent(s) make too much money ; she could be denied
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It IS true In 1972, Congress passed legislation making people of any age with permanent kidney failure eligible for Medicare.
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There are far too many people working for Obama's re-election campaign to believe this crap.

I'm sure you were instructed to stir up emotions on forums by bringing children into conversation.
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lol i don't even think that specific provision of obamacare even kicked in yet.
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Are you talking about PCIP? It's already active.
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Re: My work buddies 7yr old daughter will die if Romney wins (pre-existing kidney condition)
his whole office and their families are voting Obama as a way to help him.

WTF? I'd never vote for someone I did not want to simply to show support. Fuck that shit.
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Nice try AC shill.

Hows it going in the Dem internet war room today?
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Re: My work buddies 7yr old daughter will die if Romney wins (pre-existing kidney condition)
My buddy is beside himself. She almost was left for dead by the insurance company once before but just in the nick of time Obama's changes forced the insurance company to continue paying for her dialysis. If Romney is elected this will be revoked and she will not be covered. She will simply be forced into hospice to die. You can't just go to the ER and get dialysis, so it's understandable that he is losing his shit over this election. I'm a bit uneasy as well, she's a great kid. Fuck.
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He's not alone, my friend's daughter who is 9 was just diagnosed with a brain tumor, had surgery, will be undergoing radiation, will need physical therapy for some time and has to be home schooled. She is a single mom and her ex is self employed with crappy insurance, but he is newly married and his wife was able to add her to her insurance thanks to Obama care, otherwise she wouldn't get treatment because his insurance doesn't cover it.

The funny thing is that my friend just had a visit from her Mormon family who has convinced her how horrible Obama care will be for them and they can't afford it, btw her dad is a doctor, so she is actually considering voting for Romney until I pointed out her daughter would be left to die if Obama care is repealed and the ONLY reason she is getting treatment at all is thanks to Obama care not allowing pre existing conditions for children. Funny how people have a problem with the super power of the world taking care of it's own children.

Sad state of our world.
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Let me tell you my story. I came last year in this (once) great country and my daughter has Leukemia.
I had the same fear that she will be refused insurance because of her preexisting condition.
Guess what: She got insurance without any question, we pay the co-payment ($40) and the insurance company pays the rest of the bill every month.
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My buddy is beside himself. She almost was left for dead by the insurance company once before but just in the nick of time Obama's changes forced the insurance company to continue paying for her dialysis. If Romney is elected this will be revoked and she will not be covered. She will simply be forced into hospice to die. You can't just go to the ER and get dialysis, so it's understandable that he is losing his shit over this election. I'm a bit uneasy as well, she's a great kid. Fuck.
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He's not alone, my friend's daughter who is 9 was just diagnosed with a brain tumor, had surgery, will be undergoing radiation, will need physical therapy for some time and has to be home schooled. She is a single mom and her ex is self employed with crappy insurance, but he is newly married and his wife was able to add her to her insurance thanks to Obama care, otherwise she wouldn't get treatment because his insurance doesn't cover it.

The funny thing is that my friend just had a visit from her Mormon family who has convinced her how horrible Obama care will be for them and they can't afford it, btw her dad is a doctor, so she is actually considering voting for Romney until I pointed out her daughter would be left to die if Obama care is repealed and the ONLY reason she is getting treatment at all is thanks to Obama care not allowing pre existing conditions for children. Funny how people have a problem with the super power of the world taking care of it's own children.

Sad state of our world.
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Your story almost sounded like it may be plausable, until you threw in the Mormon card. The dem machine needs to teach you bots how to not go over the top with your stories.
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She might as ell die now since Obama care won't save her. Those dollars will be better served somewhere else. No use wasting them on an unhealthy child.
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What do you mean? Obamacare has kept her alive, she is avibrant little girl and hopefully will have a kidney transplant one day. What is wrong with you?
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Troll bait thread!

If she has healthcare right now then they wont drop her!
pre-existing condition is for new enrollment dumbass!
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so even on this thread the shills spread their bullshit?

I hope you assfucked shills get dicks in your assholes and die a painful death. How can you guys dare to mock about the healthissue of a little girl you sickfucks?

Other than that, OP, tell your buddie to move to europe; He ll get free healthcare. America is a 3rd world shithole now.
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Can you not see? There is no sick little girl!
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My buddy is beside himself. She almost was left for dead by the insurance company once before but just in the nick of time Obama's changes forced the insurance company to continue paying for her dialysis. If Romney is elected this will be revoked and she will not be covered. She will simply be forced into hospice to die. You can't just go to the ER and get dialysis, so it's understandable that he is losing his shit over this election. I'm a bit uneasy as well, she's a great kid. Fuck.
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He's not alone, my friend's daughter who is 9 was just diagnosed with a brain tumor, had surgery, will be undergoing radiation, will need physical therapy for some time and has to be home schooled. She is a single mom and her ex is self employed with crappy insurance, but he is newly married and his wife was able to add her to her insurance thanks to Obama care, otherwise she wouldn't get treatment because his insurance doesn't cover it.

The funny thing is that my friend just had a visit from her Mormon family who has convinced her how horrible Obama care will be for them and they can't afford it, btw her dad is a doctor, so she is actually considering voting for Romney until I pointed out her daughter would be left to die if Obama care is repealed and the ONLY reason she is getting treatment at all is thanks to Obama care not allowing pre existing conditions for children. Funny how people have a problem with the super power of the world taking care of it's own children.

Sad state of our world.
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I think it must be the combination of estrogen and bullshit in this thread that is making me nauseous...

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[link to www.businessweek.com]

“I’m not getting rid of all of health-care reform. Of course there are a number of things that I like in health-care reform that I’m going to put in place,” Romney said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” today. “One is to make sure that those with pre-existing conditions can get coverage.”
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So Romney wants to continue to insure all the HIV patients.

Kidney dialysis is one thing, but the main thrust of this is HIV. Obama wants to ensure that we must cover people with HIV and AIDS for their lifetime treatments.
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Can you show me where they aren't getting care now? My husband's brother passed from AIDS and had no insurance. He was covered under medicaid, died in the hospital. His wife and 2 children (17 and 14) are now receiving his social security. His wife is getting tested all the time but so far she doesn't have it. He died 2 years ago his kids spend 2 or 3 weeks each summer with my family just to get a break and get to be kids. My mother in law took care of getting everything rolling for him. He didn't know he was that sick (or at least didn't tell anyone) until he was admitted to the hospital. He died within 2 months.
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My friends, who work 3 jobs between the two of them with NO benefits (COX cable, Target and a fast food place, PLUS she volunteers at school for her son's tuition) have an autistic boy who has asthma and requires an inhaler. COX pays as an independent contractor, so no bennies, Target and BK are part time, no bennies.

The state pays for her son to go to the emergency room twice a month because of his asthma attacks in the middle of the night. They WON'T pay for the inhaler, that would be a fraction of the ER costs at $200. Without help, the boy would die.

Phoenix just GAVE the Chicago Cubs 99 MILLION dollars for their training camp here.
In our NW area of Phoenix the town my friends live in (where the residents complain "we're in a desert, nobody watches hockey here) gave 5 MILLION for a hockey team to practice there.
The town of Surprise remodeled their courthouse and civic center, that barely nobody's seen, for 93 MILLION from covertly switching funds from other projects.
The town also paid 4 MILLION for it's 4th(!) Walmart's water and services to be run out to the desert and does NOT charge Walmart any property taxes!
$250,000 for an urban assault vehicle two years ago that's never been used for anything but a photo-op for the mayor and the PD when they bought it. It doesn't run. Never did, It sits in storage in a puddle of it's own oil and transmission fluid.

After Phoenix gave the 99 mil to the Cubs, they asked if a couple of the guys could stop by the local VA hospital and give the residents (from WWII, Korea, Nam and the middle east) some cheering up. The Cubs said "sorry, they were too busy". At what? Chasing little balls and women around, signing autographs and spending all that money they were gifted?

I'm NOT either repub or dem, but AZ is a repub state, and if this is republican policies, you can have them. What's so damn "conservative" about throwing taxpayer money around at sports teams, kissing big business ass and not getting any return on investment while denying sick kids who's parents are working their asses off to help them while they're paying their taxes?

Sheriff Joe's cost the county over 60 million in legal fees in public funds defending his lawsuits for wrongful deaths and neglecting for years over 400 sexual abuse cases, the majority of involving children.

Would dems do any better? I'm not that naive. They're both sucking off the same teats.

The money to help sick kids is there, it's just being unnecessarily wasted by egocentric politicians. That's my view and I'm sticking to it. And after I get done taking care of my elderly mother, getting THE HELL OUT of this ugly, insane wasteful fucking desert and never coming back.
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My buddy is beside himself. She almost was left for dead by the insurance company once before but just in the nick of time Obama's changes forced the insurance company to continue paying for her dialysis. If Romney is elected this will be revoked and she will not be covered. She will simply be forced into hospice to die. You can't just go to the ER and get dialysis, so it's understandable that he is losing his shit over this election. I'm a bit uneasy as well, she's a great kid. Fuck.
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He's not alone, my friend's daughter who is 9 was just diagnosed with a brain tumor, had surgery, will be undergoing radiation, will need physical therapy for some time and has to be home schooled. She is a single mom and her ex is self employed with crappy insurance, but he is newly married and his wife was able to add her to her insurance thanks to Obama care, otherwise she wouldn't get treatment because his insurance doesn't cover it.

The funny thing is that my friend just had a visit from her Mormon family who has convinced her how horrible Obama care will be for them and they can't afford it, btw her dad is a doctor, so she is actually considering voting for Romney until I pointed out her daughter would be left to die if Obama care is repealed and the ONLY reason she is getting treatment at all is thanks to Obama care not allowing pre existing conditions for children. Funny how people have a problem with the super power of the world taking care of it's own children.

Sad state of our world.
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Your story almost sounded like it may be plausable, until you threw in the Mormon card. The dem machine needs to teach you bots how to not go over the top with your stories.
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It's the absolute truth, I don't really care if he's a Mormon or not, my friend is not a practicing Mormon but her family is, and I do think that is more of a reason to vote for Romney than the BS of not being able to afford insurance for yourself when you are doctor, give me a break. It's very sad and a stressful situation when you don't have a lot of money but you know to save your child it will cost hundreds of thousands of dollars that you don't have. I'm thankful she was able to get insurance so she gets the care she needs, but it was the worst week of my friends' life when she didn't know how they would get her the treatment, they wouldn't even do an MRI without payment up front and that was $3000 and her ex's insurance covered $400 of that.
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My buddy is beside himself. She almost was left for dead by the insurance company once before but just in the nick of time Obama's changes forced the insurance company to continue paying for her dialysis. If Romney is elected this will be revoked and she will not be covered. She will simply be forced into hospice to die. You can't just go to the ER and get dialysis, so it's understandable that he is losing his shit over this election. I'm a bit uneasy as well, she's a great kid. Fuck.
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He's not alone, my friend's daughter who is 9 was just diagnosed with a brain tumor, had surgery, will be undergoing radiation, will need physical therapy for some time and has to be home schooled. She is a single mom and her ex is self employed with crappy insurance, but he is newly married and his wife was able to add her to her insurance thanks to Obama care, otherwise she wouldn't get treatment because his insurance doesn't cover it.

The funny thing is that my friend just had a visit from her Mormon family who has convinced her how horrible Obama care will be for them and they can't afford it, btw her dad is a doctor, so she is actually considering voting for Romney until I pointed out her daughter would be left to die if Obama care is repealed and the ONLY reason she is getting treatment at all is thanks to Obama care not allowing pre existing conditions for children. Funny how people have a problem with the super power of the world taking care of it's own children.

Sad state of our world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26849823


Your story almost sounded like it may be plausable, until you threw in the Mormon card. The dem machine needs to teach you bots how to not go over the top with your stories.
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It's the absolute truth, I don't really care if he's a Mormon or not, my friend is not a practicing Mormon but her family is, and I do think that is more of a reason to vote for Romney than the BS of not being able to afford insurance for yourself when you are doctor, give me a break. It's very sad and a stressful situation when you don't have a lot of money but you know to save your child it will cost hundreds of thousands of dollars that you don't have. I'm thankful she was able to get insurance so she gets the care she needs, but it was the worst week of my friends' life when she didn't know how they would get her the treatment, they wouldn't even do an MRI without payment up front and that was $3000 and her ex's insurance covered $400 of that.
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Keep shoveling, you're only making your hole of lies deeper. Oh, and her dad is a Dr.? I would think since he is evidentally in the 1% and being a Mormon he would have made sure his grand childs insurance was kept up to date.

You fail as a dem. op and should summarily be fired from the internet war room you are stationed in.

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My buddy is beside himself. She almost was left for dead by the insurance company once before but just in the nick of time Obama's changes forced the insurance company to continue paying for her dialysis. If Romney is elected this will be revoked and she will not be covered. She will simply be forced into hospice to die. You can't just go to the ER and get dialysis, so it's understandable that he is losing his shit over this election. I'm a bit uneasy as well, she's a great kid. Fuck.
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that socialist poor piece of shit can move to Canada and get all the treatment they want you fucking tard.

fuckoff2

btw I pray she dies.
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