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Kissplash User ID: 18998054 United States 11/05/2012 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: QUAKE WATCH: NJ & NYC Area. Small quake indicates instability from Sandy. Nor'easter could trigger larger quake Did you flunk out of college? Quit high school? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10566369 Barometric pressure readings do not cause earthquakes. Using your twisted logic, then winter storms, cyclones, and hurricanes cause earthquakes. No. Ridiculous. Take some science classes and learn a little bit. You don't get out much do you. When Sand was in the Carib, it caused a quake in the Caymans and another offshore Costa Rica. Irene caused the 5.9 VA quake last year. Happens all the time. Seen it many, many times. Low pressure systems cause the plates to rise which in many cases reduces friction along faults. [link to www.earthquakesummary.info] EARTHQUAKE SUMMARY FOR OCTOBER 31, 2012 Over the course of the past several days there have been continued comparisons between Hurricane Sandy which visited considerable damage and death in the eastern U.S. this year and Hurricane Irene which did slightly less in August last year. This summary has made the argument that the great M 7.7 in the Queen Charlotte Islands was a direct result of Hurricane Sandy hitting the continental shelf near the Bahamas. Some of our readers may recall that a strong, damaging earthquake in the eastern U.S. was also associated with Hurricane Irene last year. This was the earthquake of M 5.9 which hit Virginia and damaged the Washington Monument and the Washington Cathedral among other damages on August 23. It is interesting to compare what this summary said in regard to these two hurricanes on the day the events in Washington occurred in 2011 and the day the Queen Charlotte Island earthquake occurred in 2012. .... EARTHQUAKE SUMMARY FOR OCTOBER 30, 2012 Hurricane Sandy made landfall in the New Jersey-New York region of the eastern United States over the past day causing much destruction and loss. Estimated insured losses to business and private property are between $15 and $25 billion U.S. Dollars. About one in every five Americans was impacted by this storm. Over the past several days as super-storm Hurricane Sandy moved up the eastern seaboard of the United States and eventually made a turn to the west yesterday to make landfall in New Jersey, this summary has been following the associated seismicity. A review of this would seem in order at this point as Sandy, now a post-tropical cyclone over the northeastern U.S. dissipates over land. The associated seismicity was a classical example of earthquakes induced by effects from a large cyclone. As the cyclone formed over Costa Rica on October 24 we reported: "A new hurricane - Sandy - formed over Central America over the past two days is moving north over the Caribbean Sea. Low pressures from such meteorological events, when they center over the land mass can relieve atmospheric loading on the land allowing it to rise with respect to the underlying subduction zone. This, in turn reduces friction along the subduction zone faults allowing larger earthquakes to occur. This appears to have been the case yesterday when an M 6.6 in Costa Rica occurred as the low pressure system associated with Hurricane Sandy was located over the area. Sandy has now moved northward and is currently east of the Cayman Islands and near Cuba. The strongest earthquake reported since our last summary occurred today in the Cayman Islands as Hurricane Sandy was passing to the east. While not reported felt in the area, this earthquake of M 5.4 in the Cayman Islands is the strongest located in that area since an M 5.8 occurred on January 19, 2010, a week after the M 7.0 in Haiti which killed hundreds of thousands and the second strongest in the area in the past five years." (October 25, 2012) The next day Sandy passed over the area west of Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands essentially shutting down the earthquake swarm that had been ongoing in that region since Hurricane Isaac passed over the area in late August. In our summary of August 27 we reviewed the seismicity induced by Hurricane Isaac. Isaac was closely associated with the M 7.6 in El Salvador and a similar event in Costa Rica in late August and early September as well as unusually large earthquakes in the Virgin Islands and the Dominican Republic. .... [link to www.earthquakesummary.info] I believe that the quakes are definitely related to the crazy weather we've been having. LEARN HOW TO BE KIND OR BE LEFT BEHIND. OXOXO |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10566369 United States 11/05/2012 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: QUAKE WATCH: NJ & NYC Area. Small quake indicates instability from Sandy. Nor'easter could trigger larger quake There is no scientific credibility to your ridiculously lame logic. By your logic, every storm should cause an earthquake, then. I trust science and facts. Not lame postulations. Did you flunk out of college? Quit high school? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10566369 Barometric pressure readings do not cause earthquakes. Using your twisted logic, then winter storms, cyclones, and hurricanes cause earthquakes. No. Ridiculous. Take some science classes and learn a little bit. You don't get out much do you. When Sand was in the Carib, it caused a quake in the Caymans and another offshore Costa Rica. Irene caused the 5.9 VA quake last year. Happens all the time. Seen it many, many times. Low pressure systems cause the plates to rise which in many cases reduces friction along faults. [link to www.earthquakesummary.info] EARTHQUAKE SUMMARY FOR OCTOBER 31, 2012 Over the course of the past several days there have been continued comparisons between Hurricane Sandy which visited considerable damage and death in the eastern U.S. this year and Hurricane Irene which did slightly less in August last year. This summary has made the argument that the great M 7.7 in the Queen Charlotte Islands was a direct result of Hurricane Sandy hitting the continental shelf near the Bahamas. Some of our readers may recall that a strong, damaging earthquake in the eastern U.S. was also associated with Hurricane Irene last year. This was the earthquake of M 5.9 which hit Virginia and damaged the Washington Monument and the Washington Cathedral among other damages on August 23. It is interesting to compare what this summary said in regard to these two hurricanes on the day the events in Washington occurred in 2011 and the day the Queen Charlotte Island earthquake occurred in 2012. .... EARTHQUAKE SUMMARY FOR OCTOBER 30, 2012 Hurricane Sandy made landfall in the New Jersey-New York region of the eastern United States over the past day causing much destruction and loss. Estimated insured losses to business and private property are between $15 and $25 billion U.S. Dollars. About one in every five Americans was impacted by this storm. Over the past several days as super-storm Hurricane Sandy moved up the eastern seaboard of the United States and eventually made a turn to the west yesterday to make landfall in New Jersey, this summary has been following the associated seismicity. A review of this would seem in order at this point as Sandy, now a post-tropical cyclone over the northeastern U.S. dissipates over land. The associated seismicity was a classical example of earthquakes induced by effects from a large cyclone. As the cyclone formed over Costa Rica on October 24 we reported: "A new hurricane - Sandy - formed over Central America over the past two days is moving north over the Caribbean Sea. Low pressures from such meteorological events, when they center over the land mass can relieve atmospheric loading on the land allowing it to rise with respect to the underlying subduction zone. This, in turn reduces friction along the subduction zone faults allowing larger earthquakes to occur. This appears to have been the case yesterday when an M 6.6 in Costa Rica occurred as the low pressure system associated with Hurricane Sandy was located over the area. Sandy has now moved northward and is currently east of the Cayman Islands and near Cuba. The strongest earthquake reported since our last summary occurred today in the Cayman Islands as Hurricane Sandy was passing to the east. While not reported felt in the area, this earthquake of M 5.4 in the Cayman Islands is the strongest located in that area since an M 5.8 occurred on January 19, 2010, a week after the M 7.0 in Haiti which killed hundreds of thousands and the second strongest in the area in the past five years." (October 25, 2012) The next day Sandy passed over the area west of Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands essentially shutting down the earthquake swarm that had been ongoing in that region since Hurricane Isaac passed over the area in late August. In our summary of August 27 we reviewed the seismicity induced by Hurricane Isaac. Isaac was closely associated with the M 7.6 in El Salvador and a similar event in Costa Rica in late August and early September as well as unusually large earthquakes in the Virgin Islands and the Dominican Republic. .... [link to www.earthquakesummary.info] |
Generation Doom User ID: 20816248 United States 11/05/2012 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: QUAKE WATCH: NJ & NYC Area. Small quake indicates instability from Sandy. Nor'easter could trigger larger quake Interesting..it sounds like a new type of Earthquake, the Stormquake. Pray this prayer to blind Satan: [link to flameoflove.us (secure)] |
starrynytes User ID: 27062979 United States 11/05/2012 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: QUAKE WATCH: NJ & NYC Area. Small quake indicates instability from Sandy. Nor'easter could trigger larger quake Amazing research efforts, as usual. Quoting: abeliever Thanks, DB, for the headsup warning. We will brace ourselves here on the eastcoast. God bless. Stay safe up there! Thoughts and prayers with you~ As usual thanks Doorbert for posting all this too. I have family in MA, VT. Friends in NY, NH. Hoping and praying all turns out ok for everyone. In God I trust |
DoorBert (OP) User ID: 870568 United States 11/05/2012 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: QUAKE WATCH: NJ & NYC Area. Small quake indicates instability from Sandy. Nor'easter could trigger larger quake There is no scientific credibility to your ridiculously lame logic. By your logic, every storm should cause an earthquake, then. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10566369 I trust science and facts. Not lame postulations. I am not saying every storm causes a quake. Its just like not every solar event causes a quake. If you want science, then check these references: [link to www.wired.com] [link to www.slate.com] [link to www.gizmag.com] [link to elainemeinelsupkis.typepad.com] [link to news.discovery.com] [link to www.truthistreason.net] |
DoorBert (OP) User ID: 870568 United States 11/05/2012 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: QUAKE WATCH: NJ & NYC Area. Small quake indicates instability from Sandy. Nor'easter could trigger larger quake Amazing research efforts, as usual. Quoting: abeliever Thanks, DB, for the headsup warning. We will brace ourselves here on the eastcoast. God bless. Stay safe up there! Thoughts and prayers with you~ As usual thanks Doorbert for posting all this too. I have family in MA, VT. Friends in NY, NH. Hoping and praying all turns out ok for everyone. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27063728 United States 11/05/2012 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: QUAKE WATCH: NJ & NYC Area. Small quake indicates instability from Sandy. Nor'easter could trigger larger quake I used to enjoy your threads DB, I can see why you got so many pins but you have lost all credibility with me on this thread. Predicting is nothing but bs and you have fell in that game. |
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Ohwell User ID: 18725998 United Kingdom 11/05/2012 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: QUAKE WATCH: NJ & NYC Area. Small quake indicates instability from Sandy. Nor'easter could trigger larger quake 116 is 911 upside down, same day as the dog and pony show the "elections". what were the chances?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26282447 Ok, this is getting weird. Benghazi was a Tuesday, Election day is a Tuesday From and including: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 To, but not including : Tuesday, November 6, 2012 It is 56 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date 5 + 6 = 11 In many languages Tuesday is named for the planet Mars or the God of War |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22322054 Netherlands 11/05/2012 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: QUAKE WATCH: NJ & NYC Area. Small quake indicates instability from Sandy. Nor'easter could trigger larger quake The NJ/NY m2.0 earthquake happened when Sandy was long gone. What's the difference between these 2 situations? |
DoorBert (OP) User ID: 870568 United States 11/05/2012 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: QUAKE WATCH: NJ & NYC Area. Small quake indicates instability from Sandy. Nor'easter could trigger larger quake Hi Doorbert, you were referring to the quakes in the Caribbean and Costa Rica during hurricane Sandy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22322054 The NJ/NY m2.0 earthquake happened when Sandy was long gone. What's the difference between these 2 situations? May take a week or two for the plate to rebound. Quakes may occur on the rebound. Think of a piece of foam floating in a glass of water. You push it down with your finger and release. It's going to bob up and down for a while. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27063728 United States 11/05/2012 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: QUAKE WATCH: NJ & NYC Area. Small quake indicates instability from Sandy. Nor'easter could trigger larger quake Hi Doorbert, you were referring to the quakes in the Caribbean and Costa Rica during hurricane Sandy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22322054 The NJ/NY m2.0 earthquake happened when Sandy was long gone. What's the difference between these 2 situations? May take a week or two for the plate to rebound. Quakes may occur on the rebound. Think of a piece of foam floating in a glass of water. You push it down with your finger and release. It's going to bob up and down for a while. Utter nonesense. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20515218 United States 11/05/2012 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: QUAKE WATCH: NJ & NYC Area. Small quake indicates instability from Sandy. Nor'easter could trigger larger quake Is it possible that the boom people felt was the result of some flooded cavern collapsing? Just think how much sea water went into places it never went before in such large quantities. There is no telling what lays beneath our feet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23884280 Netherlands 11/05/2012 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: QUAKE WATCH: NJ & NYC Area. Small quake indicates instability from Sandy. Nor'easter could trigger larger quake Hi Doorbert, you were referring to the quakes in the Caribbean and Costa Rica during hurricane Sandy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22322054 The NJ/NY m2.0 earthquake happened when Sandy was long gone. What's the difference between these 2 situations? May take a week or two for the plate to rebound. Quakes may occur on the rebound. Think of a piece of foam floating in a glass of water. You push it down with your finger and release. It's going to bob up and down for a while. But wouldn't that mean there have to be 2 earthquakes at 1 location? 1 earthquake when the pressure goes down and 1 earthquake when the pressure goes up? also; What makes you say it needs 2 weeks for the plates to rebound? You got a source on that? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26269723 United States 11/05/2012 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: QUAKE WATCH: NJ & NYC Area. Small quake indicates instability from Sandy. Nor'easter could trigger larger quake There is no scientific credibility to your ridiculously lame logic. By your logic, every storm should cause an earthquake, then. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10566369 I trust science and facts. Not lame postulations. Did you flunk out of college? Quit high school? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10566369 Barometric pressure readings do not cause earthquakes. Using your twisted logic, then winter storms, cyclones, and hurricanes cause earthquakes. No. Ridiculous. Take some science classes and learn a little bit. Apparently there is some sort of co-relation. Not all the time, but at some point of "perfect blend" of suitable circumstances perhaps. [link to www.wired.com] As for the connection between the two, there is no reason to believe that an earthquake can cause a hurricane. There are, however, some tantalizing clues suggesting that hurricanes might contribute to earthquakes. Massive changes in atmospheric pressure, for example, are widely thought to cause slow earthquakes—weak tremors that last for hours or days rather than unleashing their full power over a few moments. At least one earth scientist believes hurricanes and typhoons can set off more destructive earthquakes as well. At the 2010 American Geophysical Union meeting, Shimon Wdowinski of the University of Miami argued that the abnormally heavy 2008 hurricane season caused enough land erosion to shift the pressure on the earth's crust, triggering the massive 2010 quake in Haiti. He pointed out that strong storm seasons also preceded large quakes in Taiwan in 1996 and 2009. At this point, however, Wdowinski's theory hasn't yet gained widespread acceptance, and most earth scientists still see no connection between hurricanes and large earthquakes. The above quote is from a Slate article [link to www.slate.com] . [link to www.ksl.com] [link to www.msnbc.msn.com] [link to news.nationalgeographic.com] [link to news.discovery.com] Weird stuff happening with mother earth. Stay safe. |
DoorBert (OP) User ID: 870568 United States 11/05/2012 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: QUAKE WATCH: NJ & NYC Area. Small quake indicates instability from Sandy. Nor'easter could trigger larger quake Hi Doorbert, you were referring to the quakes in the Caribbean and Costa Rica during hurricane Sandy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22322054 The NJ/NY m2.0 earthquake happened when Sandy was long gone. What's the difference between these 2 situations? May take a week or two for the plate to rebound. Quakes may occur on the rebound. Think of a piece of foam floating in a glass of water. You push it down with your finger and release. It's going to bob up and down for a while. But wouldn't that mean there have to be 2 earthquakes at 1 location? 1 earthquake when the pressure goes down and 1 earthquake when the pressure goes up? also; What makes you say it needs 2 weeks for the plates to rebound? You got a source on that? Depends on how and which faults are effected. This area is in the deformed craton zone. So, faults are not like the typical ones. [link to upload.wikimedia.org] |
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DoorBert (OP) User ID: 870568 United States 11/05/2012 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: QUAKE WATCH: NJ & NYC Area. Small quake indicates instability from Sandy. Nor'easter could trigger larger quake Pretty much goes right for the jugular [link to mag.ncep.noaa.gov] |
DoorBert (OP) User ID: 870568 United States 11/05/2012 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: QUAKE WATCH: NJ & NYC Area. Small quake indicates instability from Sandy. Nor'easter could trigger larger quake 12Z GFS doesn't split the surface low anymore. Quoting: DoorBert Pretty much goes right for the jugular [link to mag.ncep.noaa.gov] Very nasty now 50+ knot surface winds. Nearly Cat 1 strength right on top of the Sandy misery. [link to www.twisterdata.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26687891 United States 11/05/2012 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: QUAKE WATCH: NJ & NYC Area. Small quake indicates instability from Sandy. Nor'easter could trigger larger quake Fact..70% of NJ gas stations are without power and or gas. Fact..Heavy snows require snow plows to clear the roads. Fact..With no gas for the plows the roads remain snow covered. Fact..With snow covered roads no supplies get in and no people get out. Fact..This bad situation is about to get worse. |
waterman User ID: 26724077 United States 11/05/2012 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: QUAKE WATCH: NJ & NYC Area. Small quake indicates instability from Sandy. Nor'easter could trigger larger quake Fact..70% of NJ gas stations are without power and or gas. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26687891 Fact..Heavy snows require snow plows to clear the roads. Fact..With no gas for the plows the roads remain snow covered. Fact..With snow covered roads no supplies get in and no people get out. Fact..This bad situation is about to get worse. there are 9 million bicycles in beijing and that is a "fact" Last Edited by waterman on 11/05/2012 01:48 PM -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |