The Biblical position on Homosexuality and Gay marriage

excellent points Israel.....

Most here do not have a clue in understanding the Holy Scriptures.....

I challenge you to live by every word of the Bible...

Christ did not discuss homosexuality and like stoning women, He probably thought it was unnecessary to live by the Old Testament so long as you love God and your fellow human beings...

What day of the week do you call the day of rest? if it is Sunday, you are breaking the ten commandments....

I try to keep those basic 10 and Christ's teachings...

that can keep anyone busy...

:)

Thread: John Lear may be wrong about Christ

The bible makes good T.P. during a SHTF crisis.

I'm typing very slowly so the christian goofballs can keep up. just kidding christians it doesn't really matter how I type. the bable also states that eating shell fish and cutting your hair on the temples is an abomination. it also states you should stone a disobedient child. i suppose you support these things.

Old Testament, bro...

seriously, many of you Christ deniers have been on these boards a long time and still haven't figured out what is going on?

Either you don't want to know or you don't really care cuz it might hurt your egoic sense of self...

wake up and dig a little... aren't you tired of spinning your wheels? look around: intelligent design... intelligent designer...

check out Prof. Walter Veith on evolution and other topics--he would be a good place for you evolution theory peeps to start...

rabbit hole deeper than denial not a river in Egypt land of the bee...

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Thread: John Lear may be wrong about Christ

NOTICE HOW THEY CHANGE THE SUBJECT


raise other objections to the Bible

ITS PLAIN AND CLEAR THE BIBLE SAYS





HOMOSEXUALITY is an abomination.” (Leviticus) 18:22

Jesus did not "dis" the Bible !

NOT ONLY DID JESUS NOT "DIS" THE BIBLE


HE HELD BY THE "ORAL LAW"

THIS IS OBVIOUS

“The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3So you must obey them and do everything they tell you.”

(Matthew 23:2-3)

He only had a problem with hipocracy among some of his Jewish brethren

In your opinion, does Lucifer exist?

People can do what ever they want


BUT


NO NEED TO DECEIVE ONESELF AND PRETEND THE GOD OF THE BIBLE IS OK WITH IT WHEN IT IS NOT SO !

You cant say the BIBLE MEANS WHAT EVER YOU WANT


IT SAYS WHAT IT SAYS

Sex outside of marriage is a sin, a sin that grace covers.

Jesus is not an accomplice to your sin. The only sin that is covered by grace is that which was repented for.

Some deny what is written. But it only says one thing, not whatever you want.

Did someone say Obamanation?

The small handfull of scripture references about homosexuality is not the way to spread the good news. How many people have you led to Jesus this way? The bulk of the NT is about salvation through Christ...we are all sinners. The NT is also brimming with scripture about helping the poor and others in need. Tell us what you are doing to help. Or tell us your salvation story and and how it changed your life.

This world is ALREADY condemned. All who do not believe in the Son, are already condemned. If you understood that, perhaps it would answer your question.

"Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. John 3:18


In order to bring that condemned sinner into repentance (sorrowful acknowledgement of wrong-doing), that person's heart MUST BE CONVICTED of it's wrong doing. Most of us understand something similar - by close calls that we've had, getting lucky that we didn't kill ourselves doing something stupid. And, most of us never dare to do it again. Conviction of sin, of course, is different. It is the conviction that grips our soul and spirit upon hearing the true gospel message. In this case about what same-sex lust is - evidence of reprobation and JUDGEMENT. What is really happening is that the Holy Spirit has convicted us. At this point, two choices are given. One, repent and ask for forgiveness or two, push it to the side and continue on your path.

Sinners love Christians that feed the poor, clothe the needy, accept actively gay pastors, speak about love, light and who basically join in with the world. Trouble is, Christians are to be salt and those Christians have lost their salt. They no longer preach the gospel which the Holy Spirit convicts through - they preach non-saving gospel. So what happens is that the world grows ever more sinful as the convicting gospel is left on the shelf in favour of sugar gospel. Yes, God loves us and wants all to be saved. Yes, God expects His servants to show His mercy and compassion to the ill, needy, poor and troubled - but it is as the Good Samaritan who SAVED the man. I can put on band-aids all day long or I can preach that your wound was caused by your sin - one will heal the wound physically but the latter will do the real healing that will allow God to be your Saviour.

This world is condemned already. It's why Our Creator sent SALVATION.

We have no right to judge. The bible says we will be measured with the measure that we measure others.God loves everyone.

But, everyone, if they are in a state of mortal sin when they die will be in hell. God tells us that clearly. Homosexuality, adultery, witchcraft, (that includes New Age), if you steal something of great value to someone and it causes him great suffering and do not repent, all of these things will place you in hell if you do not repent before you die.

Jesus says He will forgive anything if you are truly remorseful and turn away from the sin

What verse are you going by because the ones below say that many sins will be forgiven. God even sees marriage by a person divorced for any reason other than adultery is not a 'real divorce' so any marriage after that would be seen as adultery.

M't.12:31
Wherefore I say unto you,
All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men:
but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

M't. 5:32
But I say unto you,
That whosoever shall put away his wife,
saving for the cause of fornication,
causeth her to commit adultery:
and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

M't.5:28
But I say unto you,
That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

I'm quite sure very few if any of the sins done through the last verse ever get repented, the thought thing would also apply to the other sins like murder and theft, etc.

Jas.2:10
For whosoever shall keep the whole law,
and yet offend in one point,
he is guilty of all.
Jas.2:11
For he that said,
Do not commit adultery,
said also,
Do not kill.
Now if thou commit no adultery,
yet if thou kill,
thou art become a transgressor of the law.

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He will forgive anything but only if!!! you repent and turn away from the sin. You have to ask him forgiveness. If you truly loved Him, you wouldn't want to keep scourging him by going on with the sin. The problem with sinning, eventually you stop feeling remorseful and don't even ask Him for forgiveness anymore.

Don't be like a dog going back to its own vomit and that is in the bible

And yes, looking at a woman with lust in your heart, is a sin. Guard your eyes

For men I believe a boner has to be present before lust is there, I that applies to people that are the 'public life' also rather than it being a person right there at the time. Seriously just on that 1 point God wouldn't need any other laws to justify sending everyone to hell.
Fact is Scripture says dieing (before judgment) also cover any unrepented sin done in the flesh. The ones dressed for war on the day of return are the only ones destined for the 1,000 years in hell (which is followed by a full pardon at the GWT event. A Politician (liar) and a Bankster (thief) will have more to fear from God than any adulterer will.

The bible is an antiquated piece of literature that has no basis in reality, and no room to exist in our modern world.

Next.

Yep damn right. I am in totall 100% agreement

now if only the bible was real.

all our problems would be solved. lulz

At least until you start to examine topics like the usury laws.
You do realize any paring up that is not male/female is doomed to extinction because there is no off-spring. Perhaps being gay is simply societies answer to a population that is large and has more men than women.

I would much rather see a gay RCC Priest than have them try and abstain and having that go wrong in that they start to choose children for that sort of 'relief.

Your point might have been valid if we lived on a planet that was nearing extinction.
I'm not anti-life but we do need to slow down in our breeding. In that respect, gays are helping.

As for your second point, the problem wouldn't be homosexuality, the problem is that priesthood promotes sexual repression. Someone unhealthy and unnatural that almost never ends well.

And Usurers? The RCC is the biggest Usurer of the world!

Since it is coming from the god that never was, and is IN FACT, an alien system of control... Why would anyone pay any attention to the rubbish...

Perhaps we need to just reapply some effort to stop wars and use that money to lift up the quality of life for everyone rather than just an elite group getting all the benefits.

Buggering children isn't a crime that only the Vatican is guilty of.

Canada doesn't send $60B/year (and growing forever) to the Vatican for 'compounded interest payments' on the national debt.

I know.

They take that shit right out of my paycheck and I never consented. I wanna cut that worthless little man in the funny hat off completely. He speaks of caring for the poor and giving up material possessions with a gold totem pole in his arm and crown on his head.

But nevertheless, most Americans contrary to what the GLP reich-wingers say agree that these endless wars we're involved in or funding all over the world should be ended. But America's NOT a democracy.

I'm not sure what any of this has to do with the thread, though.