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A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama

 
Anonymous Coward
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A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
Some people are pushing people to vote for a Libertarian/Third Party candidate - such as Governor Gary Johnson - or worse, to WRITE-IN the name of a person NOT running for any office at all.

A third party candidate such as Governor Gary Johnson could not possibly capture enough electoral college votes between Obama and Romney to actually WIN the presidental election in a few weeks.

Furthermore, the incumbent has played the "race-card" successfully and repeatedly, so the fact that his base would migrate to Johnson is unlikely.

Therefore, the likely result of a Johnson candidacy being pushed would be to take away election popular votes from Romney (not the incumbent) thereby splitting the vote between Republican and Libertarian and giving the majority of the Electoral College to the incumbent ensuring his re-election.

The last time there was even a remotely viable third-party candidate was Ross Perot, and he did not even come close to winning the presidential election.

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11/05/2012 07:31 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
Some people are pushing people to vote for a Libertarian/Third Party candidate - such as Governor Gary Johnson - or worse, to WRITE-IN the name of a person NOT running for any office at all.

A third party candidate such as Governor Gary Johnson could not possibly capture enough electoral college votes between Obama and Romney to actually WIN the presidental election in a few weeks.

Furthermore, the incumbent has played the "race-card" successfully and repeatedly, so the fact that his base would migrate to Johnson is unlikely.

Therefore, the likely result of a Johnson candidacy being pushed would be to take away election popular votes from Romney (not the incumbent) thereby splitting the vote between Republican and Libertarian and giving the majority of the Electoral College to the incumbent ensuring his re-election.

The last time there was even a remotely viable third-party candidate was Ross Perot, and he did not even come close to winning the presidential election.

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Oh well. I'll vote for who actually represents me. It's a shame other's won't. But, I'm not going to be stupid and go against my beliefs just because the majority are fools. I'll keep doing whats right year after year, day after day, and hope one day, that you people will do the same.
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11/05/2012 07:36 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
So, you think it is morally right to give the election to Obama? That is what you will be doing. I appreciate your position, but it is allowing us to continue down a road to our demise as a country. Politics are dividing us...we are all Americans. We must bring the country back together. Obama keeps dividing us. Third party votes ARE a vote for Obama. Let that weigh on your conscious. Keep this in mind...I do not disagree with your morals. Politics in general equal corruption.
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11/05/2012 07:38 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
So, you think it is morally right to give the election to Obama? That is what you will be doing. I appreciate your position, but it is allowing us to continue down a road to our demise as a country. Politics are dividing us...we are all Americans. We must bring the country back together. Obama keeps dividing us. Third party votes ARE a vote for Obama. Let that weigh on your conscious. Keep this in mind...I do not disagree with your morals. Politics in general equal corruption.
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I don't think it's morally right for either of them to be in office.

I think anyone who votes for either of them is doing a diservice to their children and the world.
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11/05/2012 07:47 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
The truth is...one of them WILL win. Pick your poison. A third party WILL NOT win. This has been proven throughout history.
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11/05/2012 07:50 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
In other words; they are both part of the status-quo. Romney's biggest donor? Goldman-Sachs...I mean come'on..Yeah, he's not gonna owe them anything for that one.

This whole left, right, left, left, right is absurd. It's been going on for far too long. We are electing the same group of people over and over and nothing changes. The debt has always increased, war and instability has never calmed, regulation and size of government has never shrunk.

No matter which of those two we get, it will be the same. The government will continue to grow, we will continue to go to wars, the debt will continually increase, the amount of control in our lives will continue to grip around our necks.

You want an alternative? You HAVE to go against the grain, as a collective, and actually vote the ALTERNATIVE VOTE. There's no other way around it. It's not supposed to be easy, and even when you know the person you're voting for won't win, you do what's right, because that's the only way.

Once you realize the insignifigance in difference between the two primary candidates, there's absolutely no 'loss' by voting the alternative. I won't feel any less or more better with either of them in office, at least I`ll walk out of the voting booth smiling when I vote the way I feel.
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11/05/2012 07:57 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
Fear monger much? The truth is unless you are in a swing state, it doesn't matter which way you vote your not changing a thing. At least voting third party you have a chance of getting that party recognized as a legit party w/ all the funding that the other parties. A third party is the only way to blow the left/right paradigm out of the water.
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11/05/2012 08:01 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
3rd party isn't running to win, it is running to be recognized.
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11/05/2012 08:02 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
I agree with all you just said about the candidates being the same except, one actually loves America. I do believe it makes a big difference. I voted third party many times. Nothing changed. The change needs to come well before the election, even before the primaries. Laws and perceptions will need to be changed. All candidates should have equal media coverage and be in the debates. This will not happen this year. I also believe that we need to come together as a collective to make a change. I would support your ideas whole-heartedly. It just cannot make a difference in THIS election. I hope to join hands with you in the future to make a difference.
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11/05/2012 08:08 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
Gary Johnson gets my vote.

I know he will not win.

I'll be routing for the incumbent though.
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11/05/2012 08:14 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
At least you know the outcome of your third party vote and accept it.
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11/05/2012 08:15 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
Gary Johnson gets me vote. If it wasn't him, I would have wrote in Ron Paul.

Basically what you are saying is that I should ignore who I am, and vote like other people?
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11/05/2012 08:16 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
No...what I am saying is that there are truly only two candidates that can win. Pick one....
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11/05/2012 08:18 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
A vote not cast for a Bilderberg stooge is a vote wasted!

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11/05/2012 08:20 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
Do you think that if a third party candidate were able to win he/she would not become a Bilderburg Stooge? Power changes people.
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11/05/2012 08:21 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
No...what I am saying is that there are truly only two candidates that can win. Pick one....
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But I don't have to pick either. That is the beauty of it, I can choose who I want. Win or lose, my dignity and morality isn't compromised.
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11/05/2012 08:22 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
That you may. The beauty of freedom to vote. I hope we don't lose that.
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11/05/2012 08:22 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
Do you think that if a third party candidate were able to win he/she would not become a Bilderburg Stooge? Power changes people.
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Than what difference does it make to you which criminal we vote for, since you know they're both exactly the same.
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11/05/2012 08:24 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
I disagree with exactly.
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11/05/2012 08:25 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
Think of which one puts America first and which one just says he does. It will may a huge difference in our country.
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11/05/2012 08:27 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
My apologies, I meant to say make, not may.
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11/05/2012 08:30 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
Think of which one puts America first and which one just says he does. It will may a huge difference in our country.
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Which one is which?
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11/05/2012 08:32 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
I disagree with exactly.
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11/05/2012 08:34 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
You need to decide that for yourself. The information is freely available to those who care to research. Yes, it is difficult to distinguish.
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11/05/2012 08:36 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
It does seem comical, but please select carefully. Our future depends on you. Every vote DOES count.
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11/05/2012 08:39 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
You can vote for the lesser evil if you want, but you still vote for evil.

I refuse to vote for evil.
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11/05/2012 08:40 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
I voted Libertarian and I am just fine with it.

One of these clowns will be elected, but it won't be with my help.

Demo vs. Repub is a boring pointless game that I don't feel like playing anymore.
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11/05/2012 08:41 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
I disagree with exactly.
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Realistically, there's only 2 and NO, I don't believe they're EXACTLY the same. I don't care for Romney much, but he's NOT a commie like the other one. So, he's getting my vote.
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11/05/2012 08:46 AM

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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
Gary Johnson has my vote.

Besides, out here in cali voting won't matter.
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11/05/2012 08:48 AM
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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
You hit the nail on the head I am sory to say
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11/05/2012 08:53 AM

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Re: A vote for a third party is a vote for Obama
It can really matter in the swing states where the vote is still in play.

Third parties traditionally tend to be more conservative and so it is the conservative candidate that loses the votes when they go to third party.

So, yes, they do help Obama in this instance. It splits the conservative votes making a loss for Romney. Few third party people would be voting for bigger government and more regulations we are sure to get under Obama.
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