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If you republican pushers are really so upset that so many will not vote for your nominee just remember to nominate a true conservative next time. You can't blame those of us with the courage to stand alone since we warned you this would happen. You had a chance to nominate a true fiscal conservative but instead chose to ridicule our values, ideas and candidates. You chose the establishment choice of rich, big government, tax and spend, protect the rich while throwing out the middle class.

For crying out loud, you chose the guy who created Obamacare to run against the guy who implemented it nationally. Sorry, you have only yourselves to blame. I would never in my life vote for Romney, especially after seeing him tell those rich people he was running for them and not the other 47%. Sorry, Romney is just another rich puppet who will carry on the Bush/Obama plan, which is really the bilderberg, Bohemian Grove, elitist plan. If there is a next election and you want our vote, help us choose someone worth voting for instead of crying because we won't accept your liberal rich guy.
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If you republican pushers are really so upset that so many will not vote for your nominee just remember to nominate a true conservative next time. You can't blame those of us with the courage to stand alone since we warned you this would happen. You had a chance to nominate a true fiscal conservative but instead chose to ridicule our values, ideas and candidates. You chose the establishment choice of rich, big government, tax and spend, protect the rich while throwing out the middle class.

For crying out loud, you chose the guy who created Obamacare to run against the guy who implemented it nationally. Sorry, you have only yourselves to blame. I would never in my life vote for Romney, especially after seeing him tell those rich people he was running for them and not the other 47%. Sorry, Romney is just another rich puppet who will carry on the Bush/Obama plan, which is really the bilderberg, Bohemian Grove, elitist plan. If there is a next election and you want our vote, help us choose someone worth voting for instead of crying because we won't accept your liberal rich guy.
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I have a feeling Romney's role, if president, is to 'dumb-down' Obamacare but not distinguish it. It was already planned beforehand to have this system, and we needed a socialist to make it extreme, and then we needed the creator a 'conservative' of the plan to save us and make it more "acceptable."

It wouldn't have been 'allowed' or 'natural' to have a conservative create nationalized healthcare, but, it's perfectly ok for him to one of those "do all he can do to reach across the aisle and at least he'll be able to make it not as bad.." - cards..

So, if this is the case, we'll still get nationalized socialist healthcare AND war with Iran... In addition to being backed by Goldman-Sachs and Fannie-Mae.

It's just more shit with a different smell.
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Romney did not create Obamacare. He created a state program that was wanted by the constituents he governed, it was somewhat successful and used as a model by Obama to craft the (Un)affordable Health Care Act - an economy/job killing that was forced down the throats of a national population that didn't want it, by a government that railroaded it through in a partisan fashion, all for further control of life, growth of government, and takeover of the massive health care industry.

Give power back to the states, the libtards who want socialized medicine can move to places like Massachusetts, those who don't want the government making their healthcare decisions can live in 49 others.

Realize if Obama wins - aided/enabled by Conservatives who vote third party - there will probably never be another election. The troika of Obama/Jarrett/Axelrod will rule with an iron fist, dissolve congress, turn SCOTUS into a liberal kangaroo court to defy challenges of the communist agenda. Romney needs every vote he can get to get elected and ideally come into office with somewhat of a mandate against communism. We need a McCarthy-esque figure to root out the evil communists that have infiltrated the government at all levels, starting with the Progressive Congressional Caucus.

So wait until the a future election cycle when maybe, just maybe, there will be a real 3rd party choice. I would like to see a Libertarian rise but people this is not the time to waste a vote!
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No...what I am saying is that there are truly only two candidates that can win. Pick one....
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If you republican pushers are really so upset that so many will not vote for your nominee just remember to nominate a true conservative next time. You can't blame those of us with the courage to stand alone since we warned you this would happen. You had a chance to nominate a true fiscal conservative but instead chose to ridicule our values, ideas and candidates. You chose the establishment choice of rich, big government, tax and spend, protect the rich while throwing out the middle class.

For crying out loud, you chose the guy who created Obamacare to run against the guy who implemented it nationally. Sorry, you have only yourselves to blame. I would never in my life vote for Romney, especially after seeing him tell those rich people he was running for them and not the other 47%. Sorry, Romney is just another rich puppet who will carry on the Bush/Obama plan, which is really the bilderberg, Bohemian Grove, elitist plan. If there is a next election and you want our vote, help us choose someone worth voting for instead of crying because we won't accept your liberal rich guy.
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I have a feeling Romney's role, if president, is to 'dumb-down' Obamacare but not distinguish it. It was already planned beforehand to have this system, and we needed a socialist to make it extreme, and then we needed the creator a 'conservative' of the plan to save us and make it more "acceptable."

It wouldn't have been 'allowed' or 'natural' to have a conservative create nationalized healthcare, but, it's perfectly ok for him to one of those "do all he can do to reach across the aisle and at least he'll be able to make it not as bad.." - cards..

So, if this is the case, we'll still get nationalized socialist healthcare AND war with Iran... In addition to being backed by Goldman-Sachs and Fannie-Mae.

It's just more shit with a different smell.
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Why would he change it at all? It was his plan. Just because he says he is going to repeal it doesn't mean he will, or even that he can. It has already begun to be implemented and it would be almost impossible to repeal, especially with the democrats in control of the senate. He can't just sign an executive order and repeal a law that was passed by congress and affirmed constitutional by the supreme court. Anyone who believes he can do anything about this now is a fool. Anyone who thinks he wants to make it better is stupid.
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If you republican pushers are really so upset that so many will not vote for your nominee just remember to nominate a true conservative next time. You can't blame those of us with the courage to stand alone since we warned you this would happen. You had a chance to nominate a true fiscal conservative but instead chose to ridicule our values, ideas and candidates. You chose the establishment choice of rich, big government, tax and spend, protect the rich while throwing out the middle class.

For crying out loud, you chose the guy who created Obamacare to run against the guy who implemented it nationally. Sorry, you have only yourselves to blame. I would never in my life vote for Romney, especially after seeing him tell those rich people he was running for them and not the other 47%. Sorry, Romney is just another rich puppet who will carry on the Bush/Obama plan, which is really the bilderberg, Bohemian Grove, elitist plan. If there is a next election and you want our vote, help us choose someone worth voting for instead of crying because we won't accept your liberal rich guy.
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I'm not at all "upset" as it is your right to vote for whomever you chose.

I just want people who are voting third party to do so with full knowledge that it totally supports Obama. And don't kid yourself that any big deal will be made of your votes. They will not even be mentioned!

I know--I've voted third party myself before and I do understand the motivation.

But so much is at stake this time and I don't think the country can take 4 more years of Obama.
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I stopped voting Democrat or Republican this election, and will continue to do so until there is massive change and renewal in the current system. No more voting for the lesser of two evils. The result of that is where America stands now.

We do have an alternative, and that is Gary Johnson. We know he will not win. But real CHANGE has to start somewhere. And this is just the stepping stone to that. We all need to stop drinking the kool-aid, there is no vote wasted. If you want keep voting evil, you already know the result.
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If you republican pushers are really so upset that so many will not vote for your nominee just remember to nominate a true conservative next time. You can't blame those of us with the courage to stand alone since we warned you this would happen. You had a chance to nominate a true fiscal conservative but instead chose to ridicule our values, ideas and candidates. You chose the establishment choice of rich, big government, tax and spend, protect the rich while throwing out the middle class.

For crying out loud, you chose the guy who created Obamacare to run against the guy who implemented it nationally. Sorry, you have only yourselves to blame. I would never in my life vote for Romney, especially after seeing him tell those rich people he was running for them and not the other 47%. Sorry, Romney is just another rich puppet who will carry on the Bush/Obama plan, which is really the bilderberg, Bohemian Grove, elitist plan. If there is a next election and you want our vote, help us choose someone worth voting for instead of crying because we won't accept your liberal rich guy.
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I have a feeling Romney's role, if president, is to 'dumb-down' Obamacare but not distinguish it. It was already planned beforehand to have this system, and we needed a socialist to make it extreme, and then we needed the creator a 'conservative' of the plan to save us and make it more "acceptable."

It wouldn't have been 'allowed' or 'natural' to have a conservative create nationalized healthcare, but, it's perfectly ok for him to one of those "do all he can do to reach across the aisle and at least he'll be able to make it not as bad.." - cards..

So, if this is the case, we'll still get nationalized socialist healthcare AND war with Iran... In addition to being backed by Goldman-Sachs and Fannie-Mae.

It's just more shit with a different smell.
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Why would he change it at all? It was his plan. Just because he says he is going to repeal it doesn't mean he will, or even that he can. It has already begun to be implemented and it would be almost impossible to repeal, especially with the democrats in control of the senate. He can't just sign an executive order and repeal a law that was passed by congress and affirmed constitutional by the supreme court. Anyone who believes he can do anything about this now is a fool. Anyone who thinks he wants to make it better is stupid.
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I didn't say he wanted to make it better. I'm referring to national popularity of the legislature. It's an old trick that any successful-but-shady business does -- They give you the extreme of something (be-it a product or service) - then the receiver complains and demands a resolution.

The resolution was the actual goal. This healthcare system was inevitable, and it will NEVER go away. If he is elected, you just watch, he won't try to repel it, even if he later gets a republican majority. Instead, he will "work with the other side" and come to a resolution that allows the proper amendments.

And..who better? It's his model after all. Let's not even get into the mathematical probability of this entire situation. A former governor building a healthcare plan that the sitting POTUS uses as an example, and then the same governor running against him from an opposite party. I mean it's ludicrous to think any of this is coincidence...
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Sick to death of people saying this. I voted Republican last time so Obama wouldn't win cause I believed this BS and look he still won. I am voting with my conscious this time. The only time your vote doesn't count?? When you actually don't vote!
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I stopped voting Democrat or Republican this election, and will continue to do so until there is massive change and renewal in the current system. No more voting for the lesser of two evils. The result of that is where America stands now.

We do have an alternative, and that is Gary Johnson. We know he will not win. But real CHANGE has to start somewhere. And this is just the stepping stone to that. We all need to stop drinking the kool-aid, there is no vote wasted. If you want keep voting evil, you already know the result.
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TY! This times 100! If more people felt this way just think of the actual change!
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I just want you Romney fans to realize that voting for a third party is not voting for Obama. We warned you that if Romney was the nominee the republican party would not get our vote. The Republicans chose to not only nominate Romney, a liberal and the creator of obamacare, but to lie, cheat and steal the nomination at the expense of the true conservative candidates. You Romney pushers chose your establishment liberal and now you are stuck with him. We are not stuck with him though, and I'm glad you realize our votes will be missed. Next time, listen to the conservative base and do not back the liberal/fascist corporate backed establishment goon.

Sure, Obama has a better chance to win now, but that is your fault for turning your head to the corruption that led to the Romney nomination. I would never vote for Romney,just as I would never vote for Obama. No, a vote for 3rd party is not an Obama vote, it is the opposite. You wanted your nominee and you got him. Enjoy him for the next day you have him.
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I just want you Romney fans to realize that voting for a third party is not voting for Obama. We warned you that if Romney was the nominee the republican party would not get our vote. The Republicans chose to not only nominate Romney, a liberal and the creator of obamacare, but to lie, cheat and steal the nomination at the expense of the true conservative candidates. You Romney pushers chose your establishment liberal and now you are stuck with him. We are not stuck with him though, and I'm glad you realize our votes will be missed. Next time, listen to the conservative base and do not back the liberal/fascist corporate backed establishment goon.

Sure, Obama has a better chance to win now, but that is your fault for turning your head to the corruption that led to the Romney nomination. I would never vote for Romney,just as I would never vote for Obama. No, a vote for 3rd party is not an Obama vote, it is the opposite. You wanted your nominee and you got him. Enjoy him for the next day you have him.
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this ^
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Johnson/Gray 2012

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I did not vote for Romney in the primary. I know that many did not. However, that does not change the fact that he won the nomination. From that point a third party vote is a vote away from Romney. Third party votes historically take votes from the non-incumbent, be it democrat or republican.

Let's support each others right to their opinion instead of being violent toward them. Let's instead inform people of why we believe the way we do, regardless of what that opinion is. Americans...stop the hate against each other. Do you think that if you criticize or call someone names they are going to suddenly want to see your side of it?

Remember, divide and conquer. Let's unite instead.

Those that say they are voting for Gary Johnson to vote their conscious, must not forget that it IS putting Obama one vote closer to winning. If that's still what you choose, you definitely have that right.
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Romney did not create Obamacare. He created a state program that was wanted by the constituents he governed, it was somewhat successful and used as a model by Obama to craft the (Un)affordable Health Care Act - an economy/job killing that was forced down the throats of a national population that didn't want it, by a government that railroaded it through in a partisan fashion, all for further control of life, growth of government, and takeover of the massive health care industry.

Give power back to the states, the libtards who want socialized medicine can move to places like Massachusetts, those who don't want the government making their healthcare decisions can live in 49 others.

Realize if Obama wins - aided/enabled by Conservatives who vote third party - there will probably never be another election. The troika of Obama/Jarrett/Axelrod will rule with an iron fist, dissolve congress, turn SCOTUS into a liberal kangaroo court to defy challenges of the communist agenda. Romney needs every vote he can get to get elected and ideally come into office with somewhat of a mandate against communism. We need a McCarthy-esque figure to root out the evil communists that have infiltrated the government at all levels, starting with the Progressive Congressional Caucus.

So wait until the a future election cycle when maybe, just maybe, there will be a real 3rd party choice. I would like to see a Libertarian rise but people this is not the time to waste a vote!
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Makes sense to me.
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I did not vote for Romney in the primary. I know that many did not. However, that does not change the fact that he won the nomination. From that point a third party vote is a vote away from Romney. Third party votes historically take votes from the non-incumbent, be it democrat or republican.

Let's support each others right to their opinion instead of being violent toward them. Let's instead inform people of why we believe the way we do, regardless of what that opinion is. Americans...stop the hate against each other. Do you think that if you criticize or call someone names they are going to suddenly want to see your side of it?

Remember, divide and conquer. Let's unite instead.

Those that say they are voting for Gary Johnson to vote their conscious, must not forget that it IS putting Obama one vote closer to winning. If that's still what you choose, you definitely have that right.
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You still can't get it huh? Obama and Romney are related, just like all the previous presidents. A vote for Romney is a vote for the same fascist agenda Obama stands for. We know that if we vote for someone else that it isn't a vote for Romney, that is why we choose not to vote for this evil bloodline anymore.

You want to unite? Let's do it, you vote Johnson and we are united. See how easy it is? Remember, every vote for Romney is a vote to help Obama beat Johnson.
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What you people don't understand is if Gary Johnson gets 6% of the vote then the Libertarian party will get Federal funding in 2016 and qualify for being in all debates.

Well, that's if the rules don't get changed by a dictator.
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A vote for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. I prefer to vote for someone that is not evil.
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What you people don't understand is if Gary Johnson gets 6% of the vote then the Libertarian party will get Federal funding in 2016 and qualify for being in all debates.

Well, that's if the rules don't get changed by a dictator.
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they understand all right, that's the reason for the "A vote for a third-party is a vote for Obama" meme.

gotta keep the duopoly alive!
I'm a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

I don't give a shit what you do with your own life, whether you make it a success or a failure, that is the outcome of the choices you make, but please take responsibility for yourself and don't make ME pay for YOUR choices and we're all good.

Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Apportionment Act of 1911!

Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be.

Restore the Republic.

It's a flower, not something to be feared.

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I live in Texas. Romney is going to win Texas, without question. Therefore, I voted for Gary Johnson to put him close to the 5% and strike a real blow at the 2 party system.
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What you people don't understand is if Gary Johnson gets 6% of the vote then the Libertarian party will get Federal funding in 2016 and qualify for being in all debates.

Well, that's if the rules don't get changed by a dictator.
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they understand all right, that's the reason for the "A vote for a third-party is a vote for Obama" meme.

gotta keep the duopoly alive!
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I don't think they understand. They do everything the their TV tells them to do.

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A vote for a third party is a vote for a third party. Nothing more, nothing less.
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I had an opinion, i typed it up and clicked post and then GLP did what it always does, it played like it's retarded, went to the register with GLP page and made my whole post dissapear. I did register once and then it wouldnt accept the password I created. now it wont let me register cause my email is already in use. nice catch 22 glp. it also seems to choose to screw me like this only when i type a large well thought out post but not if i just say a quick one liner. so fucking gay.

anyway my point was Gary Johnson 2012 and if obomber wins because i voted 3rd party at least he isnt interested in fighting israels wars for them like rmoney is determined to do.
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BS OP! 1 star for you.
In California, a Romney vote is a wasted vote.
All Delegates will go to Obama anyway, so why not help the future.
You need to study a little more B4 printing this crap.
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then so be it
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good!!!

romney's a fucking psychopath!!!
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Third party voters have already given up on the election this year.

They realized that both choices have the same outcome.

They are voting on a third party so that they can have a better chance at having a choice for a real leader in 2016.

Everybody else is playing into the hands of the elite.
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Well, there were 1,613,277 third party votes. You do the math. I hope you enjoy what you ended up with.
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I voted third party in my state because my state was going Obama anyway. It only matters in close count swing states. Accept it.

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