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America now is Germany then: Analogies

 
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The German people of the late 1930s imagined themselves to be brave. They saw themselves as the heroic Germans depicted by the Wagnerian Operas, the descendants of the fierce Germanic warriors who had hunted wild boar with nothing but spears and who had defeated three of Rome's mightiest legions in the Tuetenberg Forest.

But in truth, by the 1930s, the German people had become civilized and tamed, culturally obsessed with fine details in both science and society. Their self-image of bravery was both salve and slavery. Germans were required to behave as if they were brave, even when they were not.

It's easy to look back and realize what happened. But at the time the Hitler administration, with the help of the media, looked pretty good to the German people. Hitler was TIME Magazine's Man Of The Year in 1938; the German people assumed they were safe from a tyrant. They lived in a Republic, after all, with strict laws regarding what the government could and more importantly could not do. Their leader was a devoutly religious man, and had even sung with the boy's choir of a monastery in his youth.

The reality was that the German people, as individuals, had lost their courage. The German government preferred it that way as a fearful people are easier to rule than a courageous one. But the German people didn't wish to lose their self-image of courage. So, when confronted with a situation demanding individual courage, in the form of a government gone wrong, the German people simply pretended that the situation did not exist. And in that simple self-deception lay the ruin of an entire nation and the coming of the second World War.

When the Reichstag burned down, most Germans simply refused to believe suggestions that the fire had been staged by the Hitler administration itself. They were afraid to. But so trapped were the Germans by their belief in their own bravery that they willed themselves to be blind to the evidence before their eyes, so that they could nod in agreement with Der Fuhrer while still imagining themselves to have courage, even as they avoided the one situation which most required real courage: to stand up to governmental lies and deceptions.

When the Hitler administration requested temporary extraordinary powers; powers specifically banned under German law, but powers the government claimed they needed to have to deal with the "terrorists", the German people, having already sold their souls to their self-delusions, agreed. The temporary powers were conferred, and, once conferred, lasted until Germany itself was destroyed.

When the Hitler administration staged a phony invasion by Poland, the vast majority of the German people, their own self-image dependant on continuing blindness to their government's deceptions, did not question why Poland would have done something so stupid as to attack Germany, and as a result Germans found themselves in a war.

But the German government knew they ruled a nation of cowards, and knew they had to spend the money to make the new war something cowards could fight and win. They decorated their troops with regalia to make them proud of themselves, further trapping them in their self-image. The Hitler administration copied the parade regalia of ancient Rome, to remind the Germans of the defeat of the legions at the Tuetenberg Forest. Talismans were added from orthodox religions and the occult to fill the soldiers with delusions of mystical strengths and an afterlife if they fell in battle.

Knowing that it takes courage to kill the enemy face to face, the Hitler administration spent vast sums of money on wonder weapons, airplanes, submarines, ultra-long range artillery, the world's first cruise missile and the world's first guided missile, weapons that could be used to kill at a distance, so that those doing the killing need not have to face the reality of what they were doing.

The German people were lured into WW2 not because they were brave, but because they were cowards who wanted to be seen as brave, and found that shooting long range weapons at people they could not see took less courage than standing up to the government's lies and deceptions. Sent into battle by that false image of courage, the Germans were dependent on their wonder-weapons. When the wonder-weapons stopped working, the delusion of grandeur faded, the illusion ended, the Germans lost the war.

The American people imagine themselves to be brave. They see themselves as the heroic Americans depicted by Western Movies, the descendants of the fierce patriot warriors who had tamed the frontier and defeated the might of the British Empire.

But in truth, by the dawn of the third millennium, the American people have become civilized and tamed, culturally obsessed with fine details in both science and society. Their self-image of bravery is both salve and slavery. Americans are required to behave as if they are brave, even when they are not.

The American people assume they are safe. They live in a Republic, after all, with strict laws regarding what the government can and more importantly cannot do. Their leader is a devoutly religious man and with the help of the media looks petty good: TIME Magazine's Man Of The Year 2000 and 2004.

The reality is that the American people, as individuals, have lost their courage. The government prefers it that way as a fearful people are easier to rule than a courageous one. But Americans don't wish to lose their self-image of courage. So, when confronted with a situation demanding courage, in the form of a government gone wrong, the American people simply pretend that the situation does not exist.

When the World Trade Towers collapsed, most Americans simply refused to believe suggestions that the attacks had been staged by parties working for the US government itself. Americans were afraid to, even as news reports surfaced proving that the US government had announced plans for the invasion of Afghanistan early in the year, plans into which the attacks on the World Trade Towers which angered the American people into support of the already-planned war fit entirely too conveniently.

Now the US government has requested temporary extraordinary powers, powers specifically banned under Constitutional law, but powers the government is claiming they need to have to deal with the "terrorists". The American people, having already sold their souls to their self-delusions, are agreeing. The temporary powers recently conferred will be no more temporary in America than they were in Germany.

The vast majority of the American people, their own self-image dependant on continuing blindness to the government's deceptions, never question why Afghanistan would have done something so stupid as to attack the United States, and as a result, Americans find themselves in a war.

The US government knows they rule a nation of cowards. The government has had to spend the money to make the new war something cowards can fight. The government has decorated the troops with regalia to make them proud of themselves, further trapping them in their self-image. Talismans are added from orthodox religions and the occult to fill the soldiers with delusions of mystical strengths and an afterlife if they fall in battle.

Knowing that it takes courage to kill the enemy face to face, the United States government has spent vast sums of money on wonder weapons, airplanes, submarines, ultra-long range artillery, cruise missiles, and guided missiles, weapons that kill at a distance, so that those doing the killing need not have to face the reality of what they are doing.

But so trapped are Americans by their belief in their own bravery that they will themselves to be blind to the evidence before their eyes, so that they can nod in agreement with the government while still imagining themselves to have courage, even as they avoid the one situation which most requires real courage; to stand up to the government's lies and deceptions. When the wonder-weapons stop working, the delusion of grandeur fades, the illusion ends, the Americans will have lost ..... themselves.

The lesson from these facts is that it isn't easy to spot a genocidal tyrant when you live with one, especially one whom the press supports and promotes. Tyrants become obvious only when looking back, after what they have done becomes known. The German people did not stand up to the Hitler administration because their media betrayed them, just as the American media is betraying the American people by willingly, voluntarily, even proudly, abandoning its traditional role as watchdog against government abuse.

It is naive, not to mention racist, to assume that tyrants appear only in other nations and that somehow America is immune simply because "we're Americans".

America has escaped the clutches of a dictatorship thus far only through the efforts of those citizens who, unlike the Germans of the 1930s, have the moral courage to stand up and point out where the government is lying to the people. And unless more Americans are willing to have that kind of individual courage, then future generations may well look back on the American people with the same harshness of judgement with which we look back on the 1930s Germans.

History is a great teacher.

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This is a fine comparison write up. My wife and I came to this conclusion recently as well.
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And read this page here:

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Thread: WALL STREET AND THE RISE OF HITLER

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Sry, double post accidentally.

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America got german talent and patents.
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America got german talent and patents.
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America got the karma that Hitler earned.

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This is a fine comparison write up. My wife and I came to this conclusion recently as well.
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Not really, read about Bolshevik Revolution, central bankers, WWI and then you would have some conception of what really went on and why. The article above is complete toilet paper. Read real history and come back in two or three years when you have some understanding.
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This is a fine comparison write up. My wife and I came to this conclusion recently as well.
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Not really, read about Bolshevik Revolution, central bankers, WWI and then you would have some conception of what really went on and why. The article above is complete toilet paper. Read real history and come back in two or three years when you have some understanding.
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WALL STREET AND THE BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION

By Antony C. Sutton

TABLE OF CONTENTS

Preface
Chapter I:
The Actors on the Revolutionary Stage

Chapter II:
Trotsky Leaves New York to Complete the Revolution

Woodrow Wilson and a Passport for Trotsky
Canadian Government Documents on Trotsky's Release
Canadian Military Intelligence Views Trotsky
Trotsky's Intentions and Objectives

Chapter III:
Lenin and German Assistance for the Bolshevik Revolution

The Sisson Documents
The Tug-of-War in Washington

Chapter IV:
Wall Street and the World Revolution

American Bankers and Tsarist Loans
Olof Aschberg in New York, 1916
Olof Aschberg in the Bolshevik Revolution
Nya Banken and Guaranty Trust Join Ruskombank
Guaranty Trust and German Espionage in the United States, 1914-1917
The Guaranty Trust-Minotto-Caillaux Threads

Chapter V:
The American Red Cross Mission in Russia — 1917

American Red Cross Mission to Russia — 1917
American Red Cross Mission to Rumania
Thompson in Kerensky's Russia
Thompson Gives the Bolsheviks $1 Million
Socialist Mining Promoter Raymond Robins
The International Red Cross and Revolution

Chapter VI:
Consolidation and Export of the Revolution

A Consultation with Lloyd George
Thompson's Intentions and Objectives
Thompson Returns to the United States
The Unofficial Ambassadors: Robins, Lockhart, and Sadoul
Exporting the Revolution: Jacob H. Rubin
Exporting the Revolution: Robert Minor

Chapter VII:
The Bolsheviks Return to New York

A Raid on the Soviet Bureau in New York
Corporate Allies for the Soviet Bureau
European Bankers Aid the Bolsheviks

Chapter VIII:
120 Broadway, New York City

American International Corporation
The Influence of American International on the Revolution
The Federal Reserve Bank of New York
American-Russian Industrial Syndicate Inc.
John Reed: Establishment Revolutionary
John Reed and the Metropolitan Magazine

Chapter IX:
Guaranty Trust Goes to Russia

Wall Street Comes to the Aid of Professor Lomonossoff
The Stage Is Set for Commercial Exploitation of Russia
Germany and the United States Struggle for Russian Business
Soviet Gold and American Banks
Max May of Guaranty Trust Becomes Director of Ruskombank

Chapter X:
J.P. Morgan Gives a Little Help to the Other Side

United Americans Formed to Fight Communism
United Americans Reveals "Startling Disclosures" on Reds
Conclusions Concerning United Americans
Morgan and Rockefeller Aid Kolchak

Chapter XI:
The Alliance of Bankers and Revolution

The Evidence Presented: A Synopsis
The Explanation for the Unholy Alliance
The Marburg Plan

Appendix I:
Directors of Major Banks,
Firms, and Institutions Mentioned
in This Book (as in 1917-1918)

Appendix II:
The Jewish-Conspiracy Theory of the
Bolshevik Revolution

Appendix III:
Selected Documents from Government
Files of the United States and Great Britain

Selected Bibliography
Index

Continue to read:
[link to www.reformed-theology.org]

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yup, same virus is infecting USA now, yes...
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I sometimes wonder what would have happened back then in times of Hitler when they would have the Internet.

Those that saw through the crap tried to warn their fellow countrymen taking it to the streets but they became the first casualties before they could spread truth.

Would you have known ten years ago who the powerful elites are that run the world?
Would you have known ten years ago what their agenda was?
Would you have known how the biggest scam, the banksers have operated in this world?
Would you have known what you know today, comparing media with Internet that the media is lying and bringing propaganda?

For the first time since taking over the msm and controlling the flow of information reaching us has been lost due to the Internet.
They could not suppress it anymore, they cannot take anything down so they try to distort and foul it up yet truth is still to be found because they cannot control anymore what reaches us.
It was a great move to appease the elite on their greed by promising big profits by going global with Internet.
Or was it on purpose, did they need to awaken us?
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Hitler was one of the greatest germans who ever lived. America is not able to produce such a man.
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Ditto.

And America can't be compared to Germany of the 1930's.
Hitler took Germany from one of the worst economic depressions and transformed her into an advanced super power which developed many new technologies and became almost entirely self-sufficient despite the stiff penalties imposed upon her by the Versailles treaty of WWI.

The U.S. is in am economic depression and there doesn't seem to be any indication that she will get out of it. Obama is definitely no Hitler, not even close! Hitler actually had the popular support of the vast majority of German citizens, unlike Obama.
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Hitler reacts to the election and the right wing media. LOL This is quite funny actually.


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When the Hitler administration requested temporary extraordinary powers; powers specifically banned under German law, but powers the government claimed they needed to have to deal with the "terrorists", the German people, having already sold their souls to their self-delusions, agreed. The temporary powers were conferred, and, once conferred, lasted until Germany itself was destroyed.

When the Hitler administration staged a phony invasion by Poland, the vast majority of the German people, their own self-image dependant on continuing blindness to their government's deceptions, did not question why Poland would have done something so stupid as to attack Germany, and as a result Germans found themselves in a war.
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Pin this.

History is a great teacher.
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It is the pupils who don't live up to expectations...
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This is a fine comparison write up. My wife and I came to this conclusion recently as well.
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Not really, read about Bolshevik Revolution, central bankers, WWI and then you would have some conception of what really went on and why. The article above is complete toilet paper. Read real history and come back in two or three years when you have some understanding.
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The literal comparison is a bit easy, but there is a certain analogy, you have to admit that.

There are certain stages in society which seem to be indicate of, i.e. a dictatorship to come. Not saying that this IS what is going to happen in the US, however.
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I sometimes wonder what would have happened back then in times of Hitler when they would have the Internet.

Those that saw through the crap tried to warn their fellow countrymen taking it to the streets but they became the first casualties before they could spread truth.

Would you have known ten years ago who the powerful elites are that run the world?
Would you have known ten years ago what their agenda was?
Would you have known how the biggest scam, the banksers have operated in this world?
Would you have known what you know today, comparing media with Internet that the media is lying and bringing propaganda?

For the first time since taking over the msm and controlling the flow of information reaching us has been lost due to the Internet.
They could not suppress it anymore, they cannot take anything down so they try to distort and foul it up yet truth is still to be found because they cannot control anymore what reaches us.
It was a great move to appease the elite on their greed by promising big profits by going global with Internet.
Or was it on purpose, did they need to awaken us?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1260049


It all comes down to the following: to separate the wheat from the chaff.

The internet itself does not really help or guide us (info addiction is in full swing) to develop the ability to differentiate. Thats why most people today, because of a tremendous stream of useless and manipulated information, are more affixed to useless conspiracies and focused on manipulated, negative events in life. These outside events, in most of the cases are just reflections of their swampy subconsciousness, incapable to change peoples consciousness and behavior, to focus on ideas that will be able to transform our very being for a bright future global society. One wonders when these people truly wake up ... to start the essential work ...

What is essential to practice today?

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America will crash & burn like nothing the world has ever seen before.....
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Hitler was one of the greatest germans who ever lived. America is not able to produce such a man.
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Wrong, we have one who is even more Hitleresque than Hitler.

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America will crash & burn like nothing the world has ever seen before.....
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Absolutely.
I just hope satellite TV keeps working long enough for us to watch the rest of the world eat itself alive, because without America to calm things down, the world will drown in its own blood.
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excellent comparison again this is mind-blowing! great stuff.
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Hitler was one of the greatest germans who ever lived. America is not able to produce such a man.
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America already HAS produced such a man in Barak Obama, in George Bush I and II. America rations its "Hitlers" out every four years. America is actually SMARTER about the establishment of its totalitarian dictatorship than was Germany because Germany had ONE man up there that the people could focus on. America diffuses and makes much more difficult to pin point its totalitarian leadership because it deals with power and influence on the abstract basis of a PRINCIPLE and NOT just one person that represents it.

America doesn't have to produce a Hitler. America IS that Hitler.
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OP can I use your well done work to send to the sheeple I'm surrounded by?

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