Only two reason for an Abortion. Find your humility.

thankyou for your thoughtful post . The child exists regardless of the circumstances.

You all seem very certain that a soul is assigned to a body at conception.

Why is that?

Can you give any rational argument for why you are so certain regarding this point?

Why isn't God/Jesus/Angels/Nature/Whatever smart enough to pick the right moment to ensoul a human being?

Perhaps The Angels responsible for churning out souls into new bodies are aware that certain "Potentials" are slated for Abortion and therefore no spirit is assigned to that zygote?

Perhaps the soul itself decides when and if to enter a particular body?

Maybe it only happens at Birth, at the first gasp of air?

HOW DO YOU PEOPLE KNOW????

You have no rational argument(s), only your overly emotional guesswork.

It's the womans decision whether or not to carry a child. Always has been/ always will be regardless of whether it's "Legal" or not. As for the sex, THAT is none of your G-D business, so kindly get your mind out of other people's bedrooms.

Now, if you want to band together and shame women who choose to have an abortion, feel free. Start with your own mothers and sisters, aunts and cousins first if you've got the stones.

Meanwhile, nobody needs to have an abortion at all with The Morning After pill and ru486.

So the whole argument is moot anyway, just dumb women who aren't aware of their options keeps the clinics afloat.

can you give any argument, there is no soul then? Its not a question of assigning a soul except in the case of reincarnation. That the zygote will grow at indicates something dear one. It is not going to grow without something to motivate it and that is something is LIFE/SPirit. A reincarnating soul can enter at any time and sometimes waits until after birth, but even if you "knew" that, you cannot destroy the body the incarnating soul is creating within you.

You have posted some interesting questions and I will answer, because of life planning, sometimes "life" starts before conception. Ponder that one. this is a GREAT discussion, keep it going.

Flesh without soul its golem. by your argument we shouldn't excise tumores because they are growing ina body

When did you decide you have all the authority?

Some of us believe that the soul doesn't enter the body until close to birth.

Unborn fetuses do not have rights greater than the mother.

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I removed the part I didn't want to response to above, its not the full quote. Sex is the business of the GROWING SOUL as to how to use the energy, and it fails tests if sexual energy is used wrongly and it is used wrongly when it is just entertainment and also if entertainment, one best be using effective birthcontrol during the part of the cycle ovulation occurs. It may be personal business but if these stupid ignorant ministers of churches were not so ignorant they would be teaching about soul growth and not this bs about you get one life on earth........

the more you abuse the energies of life the longer you will be clearning your karma, but it stays there until you have learned the lesson. Ponder that. How many extra lifetimes do you want to clear what ought to be Discussed and taught. Your astral body writes it all, on electrons, all the BS and if you want to clear the bs you have to clear it, and when you KNOW the lesson, that karma written on electrons is changed into Photons which build the "light body".

You have eternity to grow up. Until you resolve the most basic issues you have your eternity on worlds like this one and don't move up. Ponder that one. How many earth type lives do you wish for not learning your lessons.

the MIND is your soul and its powerful and you must learn to control of it, which means not spreading your legs every time you get a desire of any sort and that includes you men, just because you got horny and a hard on, is not an excuse to go fuck somebody and you to have your lessons to learn.

People on low class worlds like this one will err all over the place and many times on purpose, which is sin, doing it on purpose when you know better. You will respect life or you will go to trial and be asked if you wish to continue your eternal life or not, and suffer the consequences of being placed on void worlds until you can become responsible again, or being uncreated.

If you religious centers taught these things, perhaps you would consider not wasting life after life after life................................... you will in fact not even need a court system, because once all light is gone (there are no photons of truth), your Father fragment leaves and without the Father Fragment, at the end of the physical life, you just disappear into oblivion.

Yes, Yes, of course we should all wear a loincloth, eat locusts and chant mantra all day. Karma, Dharma, Ascetics, yada yada yada.

But that's a long ways away from The Abortion Clinic. The Abortion Clinic is the symptom of a greater problem. It's like Quitting smoking to stop the lung cancer you've already got. You got the tumors, it's too late and you might as well enjoy your last few months on earth with your beloved cigarettes.

As for what we are teaching people, I invite you to peruse a little work called "Mein Kampf"

Essentially, it is one special interest group that continually infiltrates cultures and introduces arts and ideas that produce lots and lots of carnal Karma of every atrocity and filth known to man.

It is waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy to late to even initiate a purge of our decandent mind poisoning and those who spoon feed it to us. They've already subverted those who might care.

So, in the meantime, a whore needs a clinic.

Fix the bigger problems and prevent unwanted children who will perpetuate the cycle.

1 Child policy. Kinda hope a children of man senario takes place and we die out.

It star from "heaven" were NOT here, we would have taken ourselves out completely already. the people of this world continue age after age to not grow up and prefer wars and death and still do. We were given until about 1960 to clean up and it didn't happen, look at all the war since then and for my country, since 911 we have caused and has been allowed by the american people completely. Use of religion has worked well.

well will engage in this one, properly under the laws of God and not by abortion. We will in time, as we "ascend" test all marrying couples for DNA defecs, in fact all people of reproductive age, and we will sterilize them. Period. We will also sterilize the mental defectives. We will either sterilize or isolate criminals by sex . well I guess we do that already for the most part.

We will be advised by the Life Carriers themselves plus others in how to go about this in a godly way. Man is going to self improve himself, that is the next step in moving into new dimensional learning. When we hit light and life, there will be an order put out for the appropriated people to being purging the race of people not suitable. This does NOT mean killing them, it means preventing reproduction in all who carry genetic difiencies.

It does matter what you BELIEVE buster, it is FALSE and not truth. There is life force present whether a recycling soul enters or not. If no recyling soul enters, or has reserver the embryo, it is then a NEW SOUL and its MURDER and that is FACT.

THIS IS THE WORLD OF THE LIE AND BELIEFS ARE NOT TRUTHS. BELIEFS ARE POSTULATES.

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