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God Loves ALL User ID: 26916259 United States 11/06/2012 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you don't understand free will. Free Will is the ability to REASON, not free choice. You are to learn on these baby worlds to align with the laws of God and Nature or not. It takes many a very long time to learn those lessons. These lower worlds provide the proper responses to poor choices. Those this disvalue life have a long haul ride. doesn't matter if its abortion or war, or the destruction of a planet. If you are to align with the Father, you will make better choices. Until you do you live on crap worlds with tons of problems. This world is changing, and those that dis value life will be moving to another low world, that is how it works. This world is going to now harbor people who value life and peace and have learned about the brotherhood of man under the Fatherhood of God. There will never be peace any other way. Last Edited by God Loves ALL on 11/06/2012 07:54 PM The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago. "MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER, AMEN. Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27302526 Brazil 11/08/2012 08:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am neither condoning nor condemning abortion, any more than I condone or condemn war. The people of every country think I condone the war they are fighting, and condemn the war that their opponent is fighting. The people of every nation believe they have “God on their side.” Every cause assumes the same thing. Indeed, every person feels the same thing—or at least hopes it is true whenever any decision or choice is made. And do you know why all creatures believe God is on their side? Because I am. And all creatures have an intuitive knowing of this. This is just another way of saying, “Your will for you is My will for you.” And that is just another way of saying, I have given you all free will. There is no free will if to exercise it in certain ways produces punishment. That makes a mockery of free will and renders it counterfeit. So with regard to abortion or war, buying that car or marrying that person, having sex or not having sex, “doing your duty” or not “doing your duty,” there is no such thing as right and wrong, and I have no preference in the matter. You are all in the process of defining yourselves. Every act is an act of self-definition. If you are pleased with how you have created yourself, if it serves you, you will continue doing so in thatway. If you are not, you will stop. This is called evolution. The process is slow because, as you evolve, you keep changing your ideas about what really serves you; you keep changing your concepts of “pleasure.” Remember what I said earlier. You can tell how highly a person or society has evolved by what that being or society calls “pleasure.” And I will add here, by what it declares to serve it. If it serves you to go to war and kill other beings, you will do so. If it serves you to terminate a pregnancy, you will do so. The only thing that changes as you evolve is your idea of what serves you. And that is based on what you think you are trying to do. If you are trying to get to Seattle, it will not serve you to head toward San Jose. It is not “morally wrong” to go to San Jose—it simply doesn’t serve you. The question of what you are trying to do, then, becomes a question of prime importance. Not just in your life in general, but in every moment of your life specifically. Because it is in the moments of life that a life itself is created. All of this was covered in great detail in the beginning of our holy dialogue, which you have come to call Book 1. I am repeating it here because you seem to need a reminder, or you would never have asked Me your question on abortion. When you are preparing to have your abortion, therefore, or when you are preparing to smoke that cigarette, or when you are preparing to fry and eat that animal, and when you are preparing to cut that man off in traffic—whether the matter is large or small, whether the choice is major or minor, there is only one question to consider: Is this Who I Really Am? Is this who I now choose to be? And understand this: No matter is inconsequential. There is a consequence to everything. The consequence is who and what you are. You are in the act of defining your Self right now. That is your answer to the abortion question. That is your answer to the war question. That is your answer to the smoking question and the meat-eating question and to every question about behavior you’ve ever had. Every act is an act of self-definition. Everything you think, say, and do declares, “This is Who I Am.” -- from Conversations With God 3 by Neale Donald Walsch |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24488287 United States 11/08/2012 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: MARsSPEED I don't need one to understand a simple wrong. I don't understand the disrespect to themselves... Prove that abortion is evil. |
No Dhimmi User ID: 15690235 United States 11/08/2012 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't need one to understand a simple wrong. I don't understand the disrespect to themselves... Prove that abortion is evil. That is the same as saying "Prove that shooting me in the head, resulting in my death, is evil" Lame lib logic ALL relevant scriptures that include a time factor prove no pre-trib rapture. Over 50 verses! Kindle Edition only 99 CENTS! Biblical Eschatological “Time-Stamps” Relevant to the Last Day/Days (Amazon) |
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God Loves ALL User ID: 27266978 United States 11/08/2012 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't need one to understand a simple wrong. I don't understand the disrespect to themselves... Prove that abortion is evil. That is the same as saying "Prove that shooting me in the head, resulting in my death, is evil" Lame lib logic its really sad on a "modern" world, (yea right), that people have so little respect of life. Its not only abortion, its the horrid raising of meat, which is for cave men types and not modern man, the wars, the abuse of the mother planet in all ways, the hate of religion and the like. Anyone with care can make a pretty big list of where and how there is no respect for life. Life is the Gift of Creator and all of it should be treated in love, just as creator loves. The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago. "MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER, AMEN. Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread |
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samanthasunflower User ID: 14930415 United States 11/08/2012 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If men had a uterus, there would be drive through abortions. And they would have it written into law that each person gets at least 1 day off per month when they are menstruating. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26156016 Unless you have a uterus, you have absolutely no say in the matter. If you don't believe in abortion, don't have one. Sounds like the same BS the demoncrat party has been spouting for hundreds of years. We can't let the black free, they can't take care of themselves. Unless you have a Southern Plantation, you should have no say. Every human being should have a say when another human being is being murdered by being pulled limb from limb. Yes, this is one of the late term abortion techniques. The baby is able to fell everything, is given no pain medicine, and is pulled apart while alive. You pro murder people are sick. And yes, I do have all the female parts. I just choose to use them for things other then murder. |
stormy User ID: 79640 United States 11/08/2012 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The religious right is all about control. They want to save all the aborted babies, but have no problem sending them off to war to be killed once they are grown. Or worse yet, bombing the hell out of them. How is that prolife? Its not faith in God that makes them act this way. Jesus said to feed the poor, and take care of the sick, the religious right wants none of this. They would rather millions of children be born into poverty in order to feed their war machines. They can not see with closed eyes. |
God Loves ALL User ID: 27266978 United States 11/08/2012 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am pro-life... for myself Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79640 I do not think it is my place to choose for others. I thought this was all decided years ago. It is your choice to ADVISE OTHERS and SET EXAMPLE. If you are pro life for yourself, but choose not to teach others, you have a bit missing still in the pro life, it is not complete, or you could not make such a statement. Abortion is murder. Many pro lifers support war which is not in self defense and murder of the planet. Where is your position in these things? It will not be all decided, until all men and women abhor abortion and learn to take responsibility for their sexual life. Last Edited by God Loves ALL on 11/08/2012 10:10 AM The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago. "MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER, AMEN. Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 424407 United States 11/08/2012 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The religious right is all about control. They want to save all the aborted babies, but have no problem sending them off to war to be killed once they are grown. Or worse yet, bombing the hell out of them. How is that prolife? Quoting: stormy 79640 Its not faith in God that makes them act this way. Jesus said to feed the poor, and take care of the sick, the religious right wants none of this. They would rather millions of children be born into poverty in order to feed their war machines. They can not see with closed eyes. Profound ignorance. |
God Loves ALL User ID: 27266978 United States 11/08/2012 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The religious right is all about control. They want to save all the aborted babies, but have no problem sending them off to war to be killed once they are grown. Or worse yet, bombing the hell out of them. How is that prolife? Quoting: stormy 79640 Its not faith in God that makes them act this way. Jesus said to feed the poor, and take care of the sick, the religious right wants none of this. They would rather millions of children be born into poverty in order to feed their war machines. They can not see with closed eyes. Profound ignorance. No, AC wrote actual TRUTH, not ignorance. You christians are amongst the most ignorant of God and Jesus on this world. The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago. "MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER, AMEN. Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread |
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NWO4Never User ID: 17788516 Canada 11/08/2012 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doesn't matter if you have a religious belief of any sort. There is simple difference here between right and wrong. Quoting: MARsSPEED There are only two exceptions, rape and a matter of life and death. It is wrong to kill babies because of YOUR lack of responsibility. There is absolutely zero "right" in choosing free will abortion. YOU chose to have intercourse. Regardless of birth control, this was your choice and you understand what is at risk when you make this decision. OWN IT! This is just one example of how MORALS in our great country have gone to shit. Please take an honest look at your life and the lives around you. Please ask yourselves what is a TRUE right and a TRUE wrong. Stop making excuses for YOURSELF and blaming everything and everybody else. You sit where you sit only because of the decisions you made on your own. Once you realize this, you will become humbled. It's a big step but once you take it, your life will improve beyond any expectation.... you are trying to convince a generation of libtards that has been dumbed down by fluoride, vaccines, GMOs and all that garbage. |
MARsSPEED (OP) User ID: 14702788 United States 11/08/2012 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a woman you have three choices. 1. Take responsibility for your choices and actions and raise your child. 2. Take responsibility for your choices and actions and put your child up for adoption to one of the THOUSANDS of families who cannot have children or can no longer can have children. Or, 3. Have complete disregard for life and your own body. Do not hold yourself responsible for the decision you made to put yourself in the situation. And lastly, destroy life. I love the people who drag war and other topics to the table. It's like if, if, if and but, but, but. How about this, what's right about abortion? Blah, blah, blah bringing a child into poverty. See answer #2. Blah, blah, blah, it's my body. See answer #1. It doesn't matter though, morals have gone to the gutter regardless of any religion. "The Trayvon Martin Case changed the Media forever. Whether Democrat or Republican, Fox, CNN, NBC are not in the game to tell you truth, they are in the game to make money. Always follow the money" #DYOR |
jadksn User ID: 27303565 United States 11/08/2012 10:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL, in a perfect world where everyone were honest, I'd agree with you OP. Victims of rape very rarely point out their attacker to authorities, and wouldn't be able to prove they were raped... and stupid shitheads that get pregnant every few months will just claim they were raped to get an abortion. How would abortion clinics enforce these rules? What about the two 14 year-old's who aren't being supervised, that get pregnant the first time they have sex? They shouldn't be allowed to destroy two cells after the test results come back, because you say so? Late term abortions are pretty scummy and should be outlawed, period. But your argument is a bit hard to swallow. It's a slippery slope. |
MARsSPEED (OP) User ID: 14702788 United States 11/08/2012 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL, in a perfect world where everyone were honest, I'd agree with you OP. Quoting: jadksn 27303565 Victims of rape very rarely point out their attacker to authorities, and wouldn't be able to prove they were raped... and stupid shitheads that get pregnant every few months will just claim they were raped to get an abortion. How would abortion clinics enforce these rules? What about the two 14 year-old's who aren't being supervised, that get pregnant the first time they have sex? They shouldn't be allowed to destroy two cells after the test results come back, because you say so? Late term abortions are pretty scummy and should be outlawed, period. But your argument is a bit hard to swallow. It's a slippery slope. Gotta love the morals in today's world. "The Trayvon Martin Case changed the Media forever. Whether Democrat or Republican, Fox, CNN, NBC are not in the game to tell you truth, they are in the game to make money. Always follow the money" #DYOR |
Meggarea User ID: 1585244 United States 11/08/2012 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I haven't chimed in for awhile. For me once again, it's all about morals. Quoting: MARsSPEED As a woman you have three choices. 1. Take responsibility for your choices and actions and raise your child. 2. Take responsibility for your choices and actions and put your child up for adoption to one of the THOUSANDS of families who cannot have children or can no longer can have children. Or, 3. Have complete disregard for life and your own body. Do not hold yourself responsible for the decision you made to put yourself in the situation. And lastly, destroy life. I love the people who drag war and other topics to the table. It's like if, if, if and but, but, but. How about this, what's right about abortion? Blah, blah, blah bringing a child into poverty. See answer #2. Blah, blah, blah, it's my body. See answer #1. It doesn't matter though, morals have gone to the gutter regardless of any religion. I would never have an abortion. I gave a child up for adoption. It's still not my place to tell anyone what to do. Let God judge the sinners. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 424407 United States 11/08/2012 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The religious right is all about control. They want to save all the aborted babies, but have no problem sending them off to war to be killed once they are grown. Or worse yet, bombing the hell out of them. How is that prolife? Quoting: stormy 79640 Its not faith in God that makes them act this way. Jesus said to feed the poor, and take care of the sick, the religious right wants none of this. They would rather millions of children be born into poverty in order to feed their war machines. They can not see with closed eyes. Profound ignorance. No, AC wrote actual TRUTH, not ignorance. You christians are amongst the most ignorant of God and Jesus on this world. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 424407 United States 11/08/2012 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL, in a perfect world where everyone were honest, I'd agree with you OP. Quoting: jadksn 27303565 Victims of rape very rarely point out their attacker to authorities, and wouldn't be able to prove they were raped... and stupid shitheads that get pregnant every few months will just claim they were raped to get an abortion. How would abortion clinics enforce these rules? What about the two 14 year-old's who aren't being supervised, that get pregnant the first time they have sex? They shouldn't be allowed to destroy two cells after the test results come back, because you say so? Late term abortions are pretty scummy and should be outlawed, period. But your argument is a bit hard to swallow. It's a slippery slope. Gotta love the morals in today's world. The laugh is that they believe they have morals and virtue, when everyone of their actions and decision prove otherwise. |
jadksn User ID: 27303565 United States 11/08/2012 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL, in a perfect world where everyone were honest, I'd agree with you OP. Quoting: jadksn 27303565 Victims of rape very rarely point out their attacker to authorities, and wouldn't be able to prove they were raped... and stupid shitheads that get pregnant every few months will just claim they were raped to get an abortion. How would abortion clinics enforce these rules? What about the two 14 year-old's who aren't being supervised, that get pregnant the first time they have sex? They shouldn't be allowed to destroy two cells after the test results come back, because you say so? Late term abortions are pretty scummy and should be outlawed, period. But your argument is a bit hard to swallow. It's a slippery slope. Gotta love the morals in today's world. The laugh is that they believe they have morals and virtue, when everyone of their actions and decision prove otherwise. I feel the same about your church as an organization. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 424407 United States 11/08/2012 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see pro-choice people choose to ignore their guilt of contract murder. Abortion is neither safe or seldom, just legal. More then 100 young women and teen girls, die from safe legal botched abortions, every year, and pro-choice people don't care about them, only keeping contract murder legal for them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 430726 |
jadksn User ID: 27303565 United States 11/08/2012 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL, in a perfect world where everyone were honest, I'd agree with you OP. Quoting: jadksn 27303565 Victims of rape very rarely point out their attacker to authorities, and wouldn't be able to prove they were raped... and stupid shitheads that get pregnant every few months will just claim they were raped to get an abortion. How would abortion clinics enforce these rules? What about the two 14 year-old's who aren't being supervised, that get pregnant the first time they have sex? They shouldn't be allowed to destroy two cells after the test results come back, because you say so? Late term abortions are pretty scummy and should be outlawed, period. But your argument is a bit hard to swallow. It's a slippery slope. Gotta love the morals in today's world. Yeah, we just inherited them from yours. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 424407 United States 11/08/2012 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL, in a perfect world where everyone were honest, I'd agree with you OP. Quoting: jadksn 27303565 Victims of rape very rarely point out their attacker to authorities, and wouldn't be able to prove they were raped... and stupid shitheads that get pregnant every few months will just claim they were raped to get an abortion. How would abortion clinics enforce these rules? What about the two 14 year-old's who aren't being supervised, that get pregnant the first time they have sex? They shouldn't be allowed to destroy two cells after the test results come back, because you say so? Late term abortions are pretty scummy and should be outlawed, period. But your argument is a bit hard to swallow. It's a slippery slope. Gotta love the morals in today's world. The laugh is that they believe they have morals and virtue, when everyone of their actions and decision prove otherwise. I feel the same about your church as an organization. |
jadksn User ID: 27303565 United States 11/08/2012 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The laugh is that they believe they have morals and virtue, when everyone of their actions and decision prove otherwise. I feel the same about your church as an organization. Except I do. You sit around on your asses with your noses in the air. Casting judgement on your fellow man, wishing death and eternal torment upon those who's mores don't match your own. You act like lovely people in between the pews but absolute hellions at home. If in fact you represent that religious racket and not the faith as I'm suspecting you do. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27308713 United States 11/08/2012 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think a big thing to consider when talking about this is that right and wrong, good and bad, are not real things. They are ideas invented by man. What's bad and wrong to one culture is the norm to another. These ideas vary person to person and culture to culture. These ideas don't actually exist. Things are *are*, they don't come prewrapped with these type of labels. We, as humans, attach these labels to behaviors, situations and people and then experience them through sunglasses tinted with whatever label we have chosen to apply. I'm not saying abortion is right or good. I'm saying right/wrong, good and bad, don't actually exist. |
galactic butterfly User ID: 20510276 Canada 11/08/2012 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Meanwhile, there is a kid with no parents stuck in the adoption process, and eventually in the foster care system because their mother was against abortion. Stupidity. A young girl who was raped, her parents so embarassed that their daughter is pregnant take her to get an abortion...and the girl spends the rest of her life thinking she's going to go to hell. Stupidity. This thread. Stupidity Stop wasting your time on this trivial garbage. Its not doing anyone any good. OP, find YOUR humility first. Once you have found it you will see there was no purpose in your judgmental post. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26964682 United States 11/08/2012 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If men carried children like freaking sea horses and some one told men that they could no longer have sex unless they were willing to take the chance of having to carry an unwanted child, even because of a birth control failure, there would be riots. Men, forced to carry a child you don't want to term; some thing that would change their body and biology forever, take away nearly a year of their life and then either keep the unwanted child or serve as a brood mare for some one with more resources than they had. All because they were "evil" enough to have sex for anything except procreation. How may man you think would go for something like that? Controling woman's repproductive fuctions is all about controling woman. Look at your history, see what Decree 770 did for Romania. |
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