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I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?

 
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Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?
Murdering over 100 million babies... is still murder... no matter what you choose to call it...
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It is not murder to erradicate a small, small blob of cells. There should be a call for men to be steralized across the country.
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Yah sure looks like a small blob of cells to me, you are a satanic asshole!
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Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?
Because some shit is just immoral.
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Maybe to you but everybody has there own standards.
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Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?
Murdering over 100 million babies... is still murder... no matter what you choose to call it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26142676


It is not murder to erradicate a small, small blob of cells. There should be a call for men to be steralized across the country.
 Quoting: WindyMind


It's a human at the point of conception...a fetus, zygote, or any other term you want to use is simply just a name for a stage of life just like toddler or adolescent...
 Quoting: BRIEF


It's a matter of opinion, one being that the soul does not enter until 3 months. umhmm not to mention the shit life of an unwanted child.
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So because you are unwanted you don't deserve a chance to live? Thats fucked up!
Eu não me importo se isso machuca,
Eu quero ter o controle,
Eu quero um corpo perfeito,
Eu quero uma alma perfeita.
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Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?
Murdering over 100 million babies... is still murder... no matter what you choose to call it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26142676


It is not murder to erradicate a small, small blob of cells. There should be a call for men to be steralized across the country.
 Quoting: WindyMind


It's a human at the point of conception...a fetus, zygote, or any other term you want to use is simply just a name for a stage of life just like toddler or adolescent...
 Quoting: BRIEF


It's a matter of opinion, one being that the soul does not enter until 3 months. umhmm not to mention the shit life of an unwanted child.
 Quoting: WindyMind


From a scientific point of view when the sperm penetrates the egg a human begins to grow...not a dog or a watermelon, but a human being.
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Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?
Putting aside the fact that the OP is gay and has skin in the game, the reality is that BOTH major parties wish to deprive us of freedom in different ways. Neither has any desire or intention to maximize freedom in any way, so they divide up reality and regulate their half of it.

The Republicans try to tell people what to do with their bodies, and the Democrats try to tell people what to do with their lives - as in business, or building, or where they can live or what weapons to own and carry.

They are both truly bullshit, and lately, both parties have been encroaching each others' turf and rallying for greater and greater regulation of everyone's lives. If this continues, you'll have to get a permit to breathe - renewable daily, and also require a hearing a permit to cease breathing. Failure to comply will be punished, I'm sure.

I'll give 5 stars for importance of this subject. The country needs to be freed from it's stranglers. ANY rule or regulation that "protects" someone from themselves, or their own choices, is immoral under the constitution, and possibly illegal. It's just wrong. People have a right to try things and if that leads to damage and death, they're responsible. We, a a country, state, or local, are NOT.

Let people be people, as long as they leave each other alone. Societal "guilt" over not interfering is not justification to interfere.
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I completely agree with what you are saying. It is getting ridiculous, but people need to care enough to force change. This two party BS isn't working anymore. They spend so much money that I'm sure we are missing out on people who would be a much more effective president simply because they can't afford to run.
But, for me, it is also an issue of values and foresight. I personally would not, and have not, had an abortion, however, I don't believe it is anyone's right to tell me what is morally acceptable for my own body. I just think it is utter hypocrisy because on one hand, the Republicans want to ban abortions, and on the other they want to cut social services for the poor. How can you force some teenager to have a baby and then say sorry, sucks to be you and you will now be living a life of poverty and so will your child. If they want to mandate every conceived child be born, then they should also be forced to provide that child with a decent life. But guess what? We can't afford that nor should we, so what's the alternative?
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I should say I agree with you partially, I am certainly not gay, nor do I have "skin" in this game. I'm happily married with three kids I wouldn't trade for the world. My issue is with my constitutional rights and yours. They are being eroded on a daily basis and using religion seems to be a pretty good tool.
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Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?
While I am no fan of abortion I think there are bigger things to worry about than a policy that generally reduces the amount of hungry mouths to feed.

Nearly all the women I know who had abortions did so because they were afraid of their bible thumping parents and communities. While I think this wasn't the best choice it's time people put their energies elsewhere.
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Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?
Because some shit is just immoral.
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Maybe to you but everybody has there own standards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1642858


So what kind of standards are yours? Like Jeffery Dahmer's?
Eu não me importo se isso machuca,
Eu quero ter o controle,
Eu quero um corpo perfeito,
Eu quero uma alma perfeita.
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It is not murder to erradicate a small, small blob of cells. There should be a call for men to be steralized across the country.
 Quoting: WindyMind


It's a human at the point of conception...a fetus, zygote, or any other term you want to use is simply just a name for a stage of life just like toddler or adolescent...
 Quoting: BRIEF


It's a matter of opinion, one being that the soul does not enter until 3 months. umhmm not to mention the shit life of an unwanted child.
 Quoting: WindyMind


So because you are unwanted you don't deserve a chance to live? Thats fucked up!
 Quoting: Mwalk


i dont know about deserved but in many cases you are probably better off.
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Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?

Murdering over 100 million babies... is still murder... no matter what you choose to call it...
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War is murder, but we still do it.
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No Oil companies start wars not the American public! Being this is a Conspiracy site I would have thought you would have figured that one out!
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Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?
that funny because the Dems are telling me what to do with mine, see Obamacare
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Let's not forget our hard earned money to pay for their abortion...
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No one pays for the abortion other than the person getting it. This has never been paid for by others.
 Quoting: WindyMind


Bullshit33

Ever heard of Planned Parenthood?

Even your hero Margaret Sanger started it to get rid of certain people...

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Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?
Because some shit is just immoral.
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+1

Next they'll say "lets murder granny because it's costing too much and she's a burden on the system"
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Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?
Op, Abortion is not "your body your choice." It's the baby's body, not yours. Your argument about abortion is like saying "If you dont agree with slavery, dont get one".

As far as Gay rights...no one cares what you do in your bed room. Thats called toleration. But there is a difference between tolerating a behavior and institutionalizing it. For example, we tolerate alcohol consumption...if your 21, enjoy that beer. But we dont add sections to health books to teach kids to drink more alcohol...we don't offer insurance incentives to help promote alcoholism etc...

The simple fact remains that marriage is defined between a man and a woman because that is the healthiest, strongest, and one of the most important institutions a nation can uphold. When you start messing with that institution, its like pulling on a loose thread on a sweater...the moral fabric of society itself comes undone...and as a society, our moral fabric can withstand much more unravelling as it is.
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Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?
Murdering over 100 million babies... is still murder... no matter what you choose to call it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26142676


It is not murder to erradicate a small, small blob of cells. There should be a call for men to be steralized across the country.
 Quoting: WindyMind


Its a shame your parents didnt get rid of you when you were just a lump of cells!
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Once people think they have the moral high ground, they can't help taking next step and enforce it on others.
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Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?
You don't get it do you? ALL governments. ALL leaders. ALL presidents/kings are about control. How can you be so blind?

We WANT someone to tell us what to do, someone to reassure us that we will be ok. Someone to make decisions for us.

That is why we are slaves.

I feel sorry for you...
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BINGO!!!

quit playing into the false R vs D paradigm.


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There should be a call for men to be steralized [sic] across the country.
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Keep your liberal paws off of my balls!
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Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?
You mean like that POS mayor Michael Bloomberg?

A use to be "democrat", then "republican" now "independent". If you don't get-it by looking at this guy, you never will.
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All these conservatives should be adopting children left and right and yes everyone gets a crack baby.
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True very few adopt the kids they forced to be here. These people who are pro life tend to lack critical thinking skills. How does Jane doe terminating a pregnancy really effect anybody outside of her circle?
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Once people think they have the moral high ground, they can't help taking next step and enforce it on others.
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That was hitler's favorite saying
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Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?
You may call it a non human "clump of cells" but look at the psychological damage many woman face after getting an abortion. Even tho they are pro choice, and always have been...many still suffer from long term psych damage because of having an abortion.

The elite's greatest victory was convincing the slaves that killing their own offspring was acceptable.

Saves them the effort.


With that said, who am I to legislate my morality? Just because I am against it doesn't mean there should be a law outlawing abortion. We should get people to come to this conclusion on their own, by brining back morality, empathy and compassion.

If the people lack the morality to protect life, then making laws to outlaw abortion will in the long run have negative effects. We must change the culture not the laws.
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Murdering over 100 million babies... is still murder... no matter what you choose to call it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26142676


It is not murder to erradicate a small, small blob of cells. There should be a call for men to be steralized across the country.
 Quoting: WindyMind


A small blob of cells that has a heart beat and sucks its thumb? go look at an ultra sound...the rate of fetal development is uber-fast. They didn't have the technology to know that in 1973 (roe v. wade) but now we do. Abortion is murder.
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Why are liberals so obsessed with killing unborn infants?
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It is strange.

I'm not a fan of dems or repubs, I'm independent, completely. So I am unbiased in my view.

I always found it amazing the bloodlust that liberals have with extinguishinjg the unborn.

I never could understand that.
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Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?
Op, Abortion is not "your body your choice." It's the baby's body, not yours. Your argument about abortion is like saying "If you dont agree with slavery, dont get one".

As far as Gay rights...no one cares what you do in your bed room. Thats called toleration. But there is a difference between tolerating a behavior and institutionalizing it. For example, we tolerate alcohol consumption...if your 21, enjoy that beer. But we dont add sections to health books to teach kids to drink more alcohol...we don't offer insurance incentives to help promote alcoholism etc...

The simple fact remains that marriage is defined between a man and a woman because that is the healthiest, strongest, and one of the most important institutions a nation can uphold. When you start messing with that institution, its like pulling on a loose thread on a sweater...the moral fabric of society itself comes undone...and as a society, our moral fabric can withstand much more unravelling as it is.
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I don't understand how allowing a loving couple to be just that in the eyes of the government will unravel our society? They are together whether or not they are married, the issue is that they don't have survivor rights, they may not be able to visit their loved one in the hospital, etc.

My argument about abortion is not even close to being correlated with slavery. It is a fact that you do not have to have an abortion if you do not want one, just like back in the days of slavery you didn't have to own a slave, it's a CHOICE, that is the point. You have no right to take away my CHOICE. I, personally, have not made that choice, but I guarantee you if one of my daughters became pregnant she would not be having a child as a teenage mother. They aren't equipped to be parents on many levels, financially, mentally, and emotionally. They end up breeding kids who perpetuate the cycle of poverty, and that's a fact. So unless you want to take care of all of these unwanted pregnancies, you don't have the right to force people to have a child they don't want or can't afford to have
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Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?
Because some shit is just immoral.
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Maybe to you but everybody has there own standards.
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So what kind of standards are yours? Like Jeffery Dahmer's?
 Quoting: Mwalk


I don't judge others unless you have been there you have no idea. I would be careful judging others like this you never know where your next life will take you.
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Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?
The left can never win this argument. Murder is murder... we put murders in prison everyday.... If you ever want a look in to just which side of this argument is right or wrong and how fucked up the left wing idiots are! Take a look at how hard they fight to keep people who have committed murder off death row, only to take a stand on murdering babies!
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Because some shit is just immoral.
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Maybe to you but everybody has there own standards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1642858


So what kind of standards are yours? Like Jeffery Dahmer's?
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I don't judge others unless you have been there you have no idea. I would be careful judging others like this you never know where your next life will take you.
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bible says when you are born in christ you are the judges!
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Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?
You may call it a non human "clump of cells" but look at the psychological damage many woman face after getting an abortion. Even tho they are pro choice, and always have been...many still suffer from long term psych damage because of having an abortion.

The elite's greatest victory was convincing the slaves that killing their own offspring was acceptable.

Saves them the effort.


With that said, who am I to legislate my morality? Just because I am against it doesn't mean there should be a law outlawing abortion. We should get people to come to this conclusion on their own, by brining back morality, empathy and compassion.

If the people lack the morality to protect life, then making laws to outlaw abortion will in the long run have negative effects. We must change the culture not the laws.
 Quoting: *Evan*


I tend to agree on some level, it is a moral issue, but it is also a financial issue. We live in a world that requires money to eat and house yourself. If you can't afford a child what do you do? Get on welfare? Live in poverty? Aren't those also moral imperatives? You would rather a person live in poverty, a child no less, than allow abortions? I think they are sad and a horrible choice, there should be alternatives like sex education in high schools and free birth control so people don't have to resort to killing their unborn child, but we don't have that either, so what are the options???
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Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?
All these conservatives should be adopting children left and right and yes everyone gets a crack baby.
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True very few adopt the kids they forced to be here. These people who are pro life tend to lack critical thinking skills. How does Jane doe terminating a pregnancy really effect anybody outside of her circle?
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It doesn't effect us.

Anymore than if the guy down the block killed a child playing on the street.

Or abuses a dog or cat.

But people with empathy for the child or animal don't just say, "well, doesn't effect me, who cares?"

But a psychopath does.
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Maybe to you but everybody has there own standards.
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So what kind of standards are yours? Like Jeffery Dahmer's?
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I don't judge others unless you have been there you have no idea. I would be careful judging others like this you never know where your next life will take you.
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bible says when you are born in christ you are the judges!
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Go back and read it a few times Romans 2:1 will explain it.
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All these conservatives should be adopting children left and right and yes everyone gets a crack baby.
 Quoting: WindyMind


True very few adopt the kids they forced to be here. These people who are pro life tend to lack critical thinking skills. How does Jane doe terminating a pregnancy really effect anybody outside of her circle?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1642858


It doesn't effect us.

Anymore than if the guy down the block killed a child playing on the street.

Or abuses a dog or cat.

But people with empathy for the child or animal don't just say, "well, doesn't effect me, who cares?"

But a psychopath does.
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Stupid argument really think deeper.....

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