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I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?

 
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A perverts only defense for their immoral actions is convincing others there is no right or wrong.
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this^
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Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?
You may call it a non human "clump of cells" but look at the psychological damage many woman face after getting an abortion. Even tho they are pro choice, and always have been...many still suffer from long term psych damage because of having an abortion.

The elite's greatest victory was convincing the slaves that killing their own offspring was acceptable.

Saves them the effort.


With that said, who am I to legislate my morality? Just because I am against it doesn't mean there should be a law outlawing abortion. We should get people to come to this conclusion on their own, by brining back morality, empathy and compassion.

If the people lack the morality to protect life, then making laws to outlaw abortion will in the long run have negative effects. We must change the culture not the laws.
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I tend to agree on some level, it is a moral issue, but it is also a financial issue. We live in a world that requires money to eat and house yourself. If you can't afford a child what do you do? Get on welfare? Live in poverty? Aren't those also moral imperatives? You would rather a person live in poverty, a child no less, than allow abortions? I think they are sad and a horrible choice, there should be alternatives like sex education in high schools and free birth control so people don't have to resort to killing their unborn child, but we don't have that either, so what are the options???
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I never had sex ed in school, but sure knew where babies came from, and how to prevent this.

One can make any excuse they want for doing the most horrible of things.

As someone said earlier, women suffer from psych issues after abortions, because despite the media propaganda, their subconcious KNOWS what they did is an abomination.
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democrates are worse, they banned lemonade stands,wont let the omish make milk, banned salt in restaurants,banned elderberry bushes,ect,ect...
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Murdering over 100 million babies... is still murder... no matter what you choose to call it...
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It is not murder to erradicate a small, small blob of cells. There should be a call for men to be steralized across the country.
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Yah sure looks like a small blob of cells to me, you are a satanic asshole!

[link to images.search.yahoo.com]
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Oh God. I just spent 20 minutes looking at those images. Horrible! I am praying for those babies.
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It's shame that's natural.
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You may call it a non human "clump of cells" but look at the psychological damage many woman face after getting an abortion. Even tho they are pro choice, and always have been...many still suffer from long term psych damage because of having an abortion.

The elite's greatest victory was convincing the slaves that killing their own offspring was acceptable.

Saves them the effort.


With that said, who am I to legislate my morality? Just because I am against it doesn't mean there should be a law outlawing abortion. We should get people to come to this conclusion on their own, by brining back morality, empathy and compassion.

If the people lack the morality to protect life, then making laws to outlaw abortion will in the long run have negative effects. We must change the culture not the laws.
 Quoting: *Evan*


I tend to agree on some level, it is a moral issue, but it is also a financial issue. We live in a world that requires money to eat and house yourself. If you can't afford a child what do you do? Get on welfare? Live in poverty? Aren't those also moral imperatives? You would rather a person live in poverty, a child no less, than allow abortions? I think they are sad and a horrible choice, there should be alternatives like sex education in high schools and free birth control so people don't have to resort to killing their unborn child, but we don't have that either, so what are the options???
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Education. It seems people have forgotten sex leads to pregnancy which leads to a baby.

We need more personal responsibility. That too is a cultural problem.

Although we cannot just give up and say "we have to allow abortions because the alternative might be worse"
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The ball or the sword...You must choose.
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All these conservatives should be adopting children left and right and yes everyone gets a crack baby.
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True very few adopt the kids they forced to be here. These people who are pro life tend to lack critical thinking skills. How does Jane doe terminating a pregnancy really effect anybody outside of her circle?
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It doesn't effect us.

Anymore than if the guy down the block killed a child playing on the street.

Or abuses a dog or cat.

But people with empathy for the child or animal don't just say, "well, doesn't effect me, who cares?"

But a psychopath does.
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Stupid argument really think deeper.....
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I wasn't arguing. Just pointing out some things. Wrong is wrong. That's how I was raised.

If I see a homeless dog or cat, I take them in a feed them, and them some vet care if needed. All my animals were strays/rescues from shelters I happened upon. I had both dogs and cats.

If I see a lost child, I stay with him or her until their parent can be found.

I seek no control over anyone or their bodies.
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Somehow it is always the liberals spreading fear about adoption. I've adopted two "crack babies" who are perfectly healthy. Maybe if you liberals quit using your lies to try to throw something in our faces you could share in our joy of adopting and giving mothers an alternative to abortion.
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All these conservatives should be adopting children left and right and yes everyone gets a crack baby.
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True very few adopt the kids they forced to be here. These people who are pro life tend to lack critical thinking skills. How does Jane doe terminating a pregnancy really effect anybody outside of her circle?
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It doesn't effect us.

Anymore than if the guy down the block killed a child playing on the street.

Or abuses a dog or cat.

But people with empathy for the child or animal don't just say, "well, doesn't effect me, who cares?"

But a psychopath does.
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Stupid argument really think deeper.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1642858

Exactly, it seems as if there is a trend...
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Democrats:

Bitch about freedom to do what they want with body
Support the war on drugs & healthcare mandates
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True very few adopt the kids they forced to be here. These people who are pro life tend to lack critical thinking skills. How does Jane doe terminating a pregnancy really effect anybody outside of her circle?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1642858


It doesn't effect us.

Anymore than if the guy down the block killed a child playing on the street.

Or abuses a dog or cat.

But people with empathy for the child or animal don't just say, "well, doesn't effect me, who cares?"

But a psychopath does.
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Stupid argument really think deeper.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1642858

Exactly, it seems as if there is a trend...
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The question was asked. I just answered. You may not like the answer.

That's ok, too.
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Somehow it is always the liberals spreading fear about adoption. I've adopted two "crack babies" who are perfectly healthy. Maybe if you liberals quit using your lies to try to throw something in our faces you could share in our joy of adopting and giving mothers an alternative to abortion.
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liberals know what is best for that child and whats best is no life whatsoever


cunts
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Because its wrong, and the reason is these things
will degrade society. But you were probably born
after 1970 so these things look normal to you
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Because they are just as commie as the libs.
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democrates are worse, they banned lemonade stands,wont let the omish make milk, banned salt in restaurants,banned elderberry bushes,ect,ect...
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You're kidding right? Not true. Perhaps on a local level but it is not federally mandated.
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potkettle
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Where did the OP tell anyone else what they can or cannot do with their own bodies?

I must have missed that.
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This thread's being co-opted, as usual, but the abortion tards on both sides. Nobody will change their mind on this issue, so let's leave it alone and have everyone take responsibility for the consequences of their actions - whatever they may be.

FREEDOM of action, belief, understanding, feeling, motivation, etc., is what made this country great. The idea of radical self-reliance, helping those who ASK for help, taking responsibility, leaving those alone who make it clear that they want to be left alone, and empowering the idea of each person having full ability to do what they wish unless it infringes on the rights or property of someone else. Since we are human, we can't separate a woman from her fetus prematurely for legal purposes, so it is incumbent on that woman to make her own choices - hopefully in consultation with her boyfriend/husband, or other trusted persons. We, as a society, can't second guess that decision - it's not our right. We can take care of ourselves, and cease to exacerbate the problem.

Regarding drugs - it's all about personal choice and responsibility. I'll fight for the right of a meth head to have his drugs and do himself in, but I'll shoot him dead if he comes on my property to take my stuff.

Regarding sex, people should be able to contract for sex, love, cooking, cleaning, or pregnancy under any terms they wish as long as outsiders are not harmed.

Regarding everything - if people leave each other alone - few regulations and lots of understanding, we may yet evolve into a decent society. Without that, we have little if any hope, other than massive doom to thin the population.
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A baby is IN the mother's body not part of it...doctor's take an oath to do no harm, yet they kill babies...it's a crime and a sin.
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Somehow it is always the liberals spreading fear about adoption. I've adopted two "crack babies" who are perfectly healthy. Maybe if you liberals quit using your lies to try to throw something in our faces you could share in our joy of adopting and giving mothers an alternative to abortion.
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liberals know what is best for that child and whats best is no life whatsoever


cunts
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Unsurprisingly, you are not the first person who as not met my children to say they are better off dead. Yeah, I'm the cunt. Sure. Thanks for proving pro choice actually does mean pro abortion.
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potkettle
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Where did the OP tell anyone else what they can or cannot do with their own bodies?

I must have missed that.
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dems and obamacare. look it up.
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Why are liberals so obsessed with killing unborn infants?
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Why are republicans obsessed with killing everything else. I don't think anyone want to terminate a babies life, in a perfect world we would love and care for every life and see it as precious. But if you can't support a child, and have no future to offer, I can see why some make that choice. To the republicans on this site who think an infants life is so worth saving, where are you when it comes to helping the mother. To provide them with food, then you want no part of it and call the mother a burden on society, those damn lazy people on welfare, food stamps, wic. Well you can't have both ways. You can't complain about abortions and then give people shit for being in welfare. A lot of times that's the choice. Until people stop making mistakes this is reality. And shitting on people, like you like to do, makes you a part of the problem not part of the solution. Peace!
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potkettle
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Where did the OP tell anyone else what they can or cannot do with their own bodies?

I must have missed that.
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dems and obamacare. look it up.
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Not relevant to my question.
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This thread's being co-opted, as usual, but the abortion tards on both sides. Nobody will change their mind on this issue, so let's leave it alone and have everyone take responsibility for the consequences of their actions - whatever they may be.

FREEDOM of action, belief, understanding, feeling, motivation, etc., is what made this country great. The idea of radical self-reliance, helping those who ASK for help, taking responsibility, leaving those alone who make it clear that they want to be left alone, and empowering the idea of each person having full ability to do what they wish unless it infringes on the rights or property of someone else. Since we are human, we can't separate a woman from her fetus prematurely for legal purposes, so it is incumbent on that woman to make her own choices - hopefully in consultation with her boyfriend/husband, or other trusted persons. We, as a society, can't second guess that decision - it's not our right. We can take care of ourselves, and cease to exacerbate the problem.

Regarding drugs - it's all about personal choice and responsibility. I'll fight for the right of a meth head to have his drugs and do himself in, but I'll shoot him dead if he comes on my property to take my stuff.

Regarding sex, people should be able to contract for sex, love, cooking, cleaning, or pregnancy under any terms they wish as long as outsiders are not harmed.

Regarding everything - if people leave each other alone -
few regulations and lots of understanding, we may yet evolve into a decent society. Without that, we have little if any hope, other than massive doom to thin the population.
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Excellent points. My question really wasn't specifically about abortions, it's the idea behind federally mandating a person to do something that will affect THEIR life, not anyone else. They just can't get past their "moral" issues, but I would like for people to think about the societal issues when we continue down the path of taking away civil liberties. My beliefs may not be the same as Joe Smith's down the street, so should he tell me what I should eat, where I should live, who I should marry, what church I should go to, etc.? It just feels as if we allowing religion to get in the way of politics and the two should be very separate. At least that is what our constitution intended.
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Why are liberals so obsessed with killing unborn infants?
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Why are republicans obsessed with killing everything else. I don't think anyone want to terminate a babies life, in a perfect world we would love and care for every life and see it as precious. But if you can't support a child, and have no future to offer, I can see why some make that choice. To the republicans on this site who think an infants life is so worth saving, where are you when it comes to helping the mother. To provide them with food, then you want no part of it and call the mother a burden on society, those damn lazy people on welfare, food stamps, wic. Well you can't have both ways. You can't complain about abortions and then give people shit for being in welfare. A lot of times that's the choice. Until people stop making mistakes this is reality. And shitting on people, like you like to do, makes you a part of the problem not part of the solution. Peace!
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You didn't see the guy above say my kids would have been better off dead? It is a very common opinion among "pro-choicers." Adoptive parents hear it all e time.
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Why are liberals so obsessed with killing unborn infants?
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Why are republicans obsessed with killing everything else. I don't think anyone want to terminate a babies life, in a perfect world we would love and care for every life and see it as precious. But if you can't support a child, and have no future to offer, I can see why some make that choice. To the republicans on this site who think an infants life is so worth saving, where are you when it comes to helping the mother. To provide them with food, then you want no part of it and call the mother a burden on society, those damn lazy people on welfare, food stamps, wic. Well you can't have both ways. You can't complain about abortions and then give people shit for being in welfare. A lot of times that's the choice. Until people stop making mistakes this is reality. And shitting on people, like you like to do, makes you a part of the problem not part of the solution. Peace!
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Doesn't make sense. They do get all those programs handed to them since LBJ's great society.

So the kid will be funded, either way.

I'm not into either political party, as I know enough to realize that there is no difference.

I'm not a christian, have no religion, not into politics. But I can see an immoral act for what it is.
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Why are liberals so obsessed with killing unborn infants?
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Why are republicans obsessed with killing everything else. I don't think anyone want to terminate a babies life, in a perfect world we would love and care for every life and see it as precious. But if you can't support a child, and have no future to offer, I can see why some make that choice. To the republicans on this site who think an infants life is so worth saving, where are you when it comes to helping the mother. To provide them with food, then you want no part of it and call the mother a burden on society, those damn lazy people on welfare, food stamps, wic. Well you can't have both ways. You can't complain about abortions and then give people shit for being in welfare. A lot of times that's the choice. Until people stop making mistakes this is reality. And shitting on people, like you like to do, makes you a part of the problem not part of the solution. Peace!
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You didn't see the guy above say my kids would have been better off dead? It is a very common opinion among "pro-choicers." Adoptive parents hear it all e time.
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Actually, the person you're talking about was siding with you. You're just a little to thick to realize it.
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Why are liberals so obsessed with killing unborn infants?
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Why are republicans obsessed with killing everything else. I don't think anyone want to terminate a babies life, in a perfect world we would love and care for every life and see it as precious. But if you can't support a child, and have no future to offer, I can see why some make that choice. To the republicans on this site who think an infants life is so worth saving, where are you when it comes to helping the mother. To provide them with food, then you want no part of it and call the mother a burden on society, those damn lazy people on welfare, food stamps, wic. Well you can't have both ways. You can't complain about abortions and then give people shit for being in welfare. A lot of times that's the choice. Until people stop making mistakes this is reality. And shitting on people, like you like to do, makes you a part of the problem not part of the solution. Peace!
 Quoting: Linda's613


Exactly! That is the crux of the issue in my eyes. It is complete and utter hypocrisy. On top of that, they are completely fine with going to war and killing thousands of innocent people, so if they are going to use the moral issue than they can't pick and choose what life is more valuable than another.
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This thread's being co-opted, as usual, but the abortion tards on both sides. Nobody will change their mind on this issue, so let's leave it alone and have everyone take responsibility for the consequences of their actions - whatever they may be.

FREEDOM of action, belief, understanding, feeling, motivation, etc., is what made this country great. The idea of radical self-reliance, helping those who ASK for help, taking responsibility, leaving those alone who make it clear that they want to be left alone, and empowering the idea of each person having full ability to do what they wish unless it infringes on the rights or property of someone else. Since we are human, we can't separate a woman from her fetus prematurely for legal purposes, so it is incumbent on that woman to make her own choices - hopefully in consultation with her boyfriend/husband, or other trusted persons. We, as a society, can't second guess that decision - it's not our right. We can take care of ourselves, and cease to exacerbate the problem.

Regarding drugs - it's all about personal choice and responsibility. I'll fight for the right of a meth head to have his drugs and do himself in, but I'll shoot him dead if he comes on my property to take my stuff.

Regarding sex, people should be able to contract for sex, love, cooking, cleaning, or pregnancy under any terms they wish as long as outsiders are not harmed.

Regarding everything - if people leave each other alone -
few regulations and lots of understanding, we may yet evolve into a decent society. Without that, we have little if any hope, other than massive doom to thin the population.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26936404


Excellent points. My question really wasn't specifically about abortions, it's the idea behind federally mandating a person to do something that will affect THEIR life, not anyone else. They just can't get past their "moral" issues, but I would like for people to think about the societal issues when we continue down the path of taking away civil liberties. My beliefs may not be the same as Joe Smith's down the street, so should he tell me what I should eat, where I should live, who I should marry, what church I should go to, etc.? It just feels as if we allowing religion to get in the way of politics and the two should be very separate. At least that is what our constitution intended.
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I agree with most of what you posted. I want the government out of my life as much as possible.

But if someone was hurting a child or animal, I would want the police involved, or anyone to step in and prevent that.

No one has ever told me what to eat or what car to drive or what to wear. And no one is telling women that; either.
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Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives?
alot of them are christian and its not that they personally want to tell you what to do, they just feel they have to for their religion. now you take one of these people and if they didnt believe in jesus or the bible they wouldnt give 2 shits about u.





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