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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27063840 Germany 11/05/2012 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives? You may call it a non human "clump of cells" but look at the psychological damage many woman face after getting an abortion. Even tho they are pro choice, and always have been...many still suffer from long term psych damage because of having an abortion. Quoting: *Evan* The elite's greatest victory was convincing the slaves that killing their own offspring was acceptable. Saves them the effort. With that said, who am I to legislate my morality? Just because I am against it doesn't mean there should be a law outlawing abortion. We should get people to come to this conclusion on their own, by brining back morality, empathy and compassion. If the people lack the morality to protect life, then making laws to outlaw abortion will in the long run have negative effects. We must change the culture not the laws. I tend to agree on some level, it is a moral issue, but it is also a financial issue. We live in a world that requires money to eat and house yourself. If you can't afford a child what do you do? Get on welfare? Live in poverty? Aren't those also moral imperatives? You would rather a person live in poverty, a child no less, than allow abortions? I think they are sad and a horrible choice, there should be alternatives like sex education in high schools and free birth control so people don't have to resort to killing their unborn child, but we don't have that either, so what are the options??? I never had sex ed in school, but sure knew where babies came from, and how to prevent this. One can make any excuse they want for doing the most horrible of things. As someone said earlier, women suffer from psych issues after abortions, because despite the media propaganda, their subconcious KNOWS what they did is an abomination. |
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Anderson Pooper Sofa King We Todd Did User ID: 26180288 United States 11/05/2012 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives? Murdering over 100 million babies... is still murder... no matter what you choose to call it... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26142676 It is not murder to erradicate a small, small blob of cells. There should be a call for men to be steralized across the country. Yah sure looks like a small blob of cells to me, you are a satanic asshole! [link to images.search.yahoo.com] Oh God. I just spent 20 minutes looking at those images. Horrible! I am praying for those babies. |
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*Evan* User ID: 21948600 United States 11/05/2012 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives? You may call it a non human "clump of cells" but look at the psychological damage many woman face after getting an abortion. Even tho they are pro choice, and always have been...many still suffer from long term psych damage because of having an abortion. Quoting: *Evan* The elite's greatest victory was convincing the slaves that killing their own offspring was acceptable. Saves them the effort. With that said, who am I to legislate my morality? Just because I am against it doesn't mean there should be a law outlawing abortion. We should get people to come to this conclusion on their own, by brining back morality, empathy and compassion. If the people lack the morality to protect life, then making laws to outlaw abortion will in the long run have negative effects. We must change the culture not the laws. I tend to agree on some level, it is a moral issue, but it is also a financial issue. We live in a world that requires money to eat and house yourself. If you can't afford a child what do you do? Get on welfare? Live in poverty? Aren't those also moral imperatives? You would rather a person live in poverty, a child no less, than allow abortions? I think they are sad and a horrible choice, there should be alternatives like sex education in high schools and free birth control so people don't have to resort to killing their unborn child, but we don't have that either, so what are the options??? Education. It seems people have forgotten sex leads to pregnancy which leads to a baby. We need more personal responsibility. That too is a cultural problem. Although we cannot just give up and say "we have to allow abortions because the alternative might be worse" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27063840 Germany 11/05/2012 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives? All these conservatives should be adopting children left and right and yes everyone gets a crack baby. Quoting: WindyMind True very few adopt the kids they forced to be here. These people who are pro life tend to lack critical thinking skills. How does Jane doe terminating a pregnancy really effect anybody outside of her circle? It doesn't effect us. Anymore than if the guy down the block killed a child playing on the street. Or abuses a dog or cat. But people with empathy for the child or animal don't just say, "well, doesn't effect me, who cares?" But a psychopath does. Stupid argument really think deeper..... I wasn't arguing. Just pointing out some things. Wrong is wrong. That's how I was raised. If I see a homeless dog or cat, I take them in a feed them, and them some vet care if needed. All my animals were strays/rescues from shelters I happened upon. I had both dogs and cats. If I see a lost child, I stay with him or her until their parent can be found. I seek no control over anyone or their bodies. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19011623 United States 11/05/2012 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives? Somehow it is always the liberals spreading fear about adoption. I've adopted two "crack babies" who are perfectly healthy. Maybe if you liberals quit using your lies to try to throw something in our faces you could share in our joy of adopting and giving mothers an alternative to abortion. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26849823 United States 11/05/2012 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives? All these conservatives should be adopting children left and right and yes everyone gets a crack baby. Quoting: WindyMind True very few adopt the kids they forced to be here. These people who are pro life tend to lack critical thinking skills. How does Jane doe terminating a pregnancy really effect anybody outside of her circle? It doesn't effect us. Anymore than if the guy down the block killed a child playing on the street. Or abuses a dog or cat. But people with empathy for the child or animal don't just say, "well, doesn't effect me, who cares?" But a psychopath does. Stupid argument really think deeper..... Exactly, it seems as if there is a trend... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27063840 Germany 11/05/2012 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1642858 True very few adopt the kids they forced to be here. These people who are pro life tend to lack critical thinking skills. How does Jane doe terminating a pregnancy really effect anybody outside of her circle? It doesn't effect us. Anymore than if the guy down the block killed a child playing on the street. Or abuses a dog or cat. But people with empathy for the child or animal don't just say, "well, doesn't effect me, who cares?" But a psychopath does. Stupid argument really think deeper..... Exactly, it seems as if there is a trend... The question was asked. I just answered. You may not like the answer. That's ok, too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25816768 United Kingdom 11/05/2012 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives? Somehow it is always the liberals spreading fear about adoption. I've adopted two "crack babies" who are perfectly healthy. Maybe if you liberals quit using your lies to try to throw something in our faces you could share in our joy of adopting and giving mothers an alternative to abortion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19011623 liberals know what is best for that child and whats best is no life whatsoever cunts |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26936404 United States 11/05/2012 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives? This thread's being co-opted, as usual, but the abortion tards on both sides. Nobody will change their mind on this issue, so let's leave it alone and have everyone take responsibility for the consequences of their actions - whatever they may be. FREEDOM of action, belief, understanding, feeling, motivation, etc., is what made this country great. The idea of radical self-reliance, helping those who ASK for help, taking responsibility, leaving those alone who make it clear that they want to be left alone, and empowering the idea of each person having full ability to do what they wish unless it infringes on the rights or property of someone else. Since we are human, we can't separate a woman from her fetus prematurely for legal purposes, so it is incumbent on that woman to make her own choices - hopefully in consultation with her boyfriend/husband, or other trusted persons. We, as a society, can't second guess that decision - it's not our right. We can take care of ourselves, and cease to exacerbate the problem. Regarding drugs - it's all about personal choice and responsibility. I'll fight for the right of a meth head to have his drugs and do himself in, but I'll shoot him dead if he comes on my property to take my stuff. Regarding sex, people should be able to contract for sex, love, cooking, cleaning, or pregnancy under any terms they wish as long as outsiders are not harmed. Regarding everything - if people leave each other alone - few regulations and lots of understanding, we may yet evolve into a decent society. Without that, we have little if any hope, other than massive doom to thin the population. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19011623 United States 11/05/2012 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives? Somehow it is always the liberals spreading fear about adoption. I've adopted two "crack babies" who are perfectly healthy. Maybe if you liberals quit using your lies to try to throw something in our faces you could share in our joy of adopting and giving mothers an alternative to abortion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19011623 liberals know what is best for that child and whats best is no life whatsoever cunts Unsurprisingly, you are not the first person who as not met my children to say they are better off dead. Yeah, I'm the cunt. Sure. Thanks for proving pro choice actually does mean pro abortion. |
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Linda's613 User ID: 21102346 United States 11/05/2012 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives? Why are republicans obsessed with killing everything else. I don't think anyone want to terminate a babies life, in a perfect world we would love and care for every life and see it as precious. But if you can't support a child, and have no future to offer, I can see why some make that choice. To the republicans on this site who think an infants life is so worth saving, where are you when it comes to helping the mother. To provide them with food, then you want no part of it and call the mother a burden on society, those damn lazy people on welfare, food stamps, wic. Well you can't have both ways. You can't complain about abortions and then give people shit for being in welfare. A lot of times that's the choice. Until people stop making mistakes this is reality. And shitting on people, like you like to do, makes you a part of the problem not part of the solution. Peace! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26849823 United States 11/05/2012 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives? This thread's being co-opted, as usual, but the abortion tards on both sides. Nobody will change their mind on this issue, so let's leave it alone and have everyone take responsibility for the consequences of their actions - whatever they may be. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26936404 FREEDOM of action, belief, understanding, feeling, motivation, etc., is what made this country great. The idea of radical self-reliance, helping those who ASK for help, taking responsibility, leaving those alone who make it clear that they want to be left alone, and empowering the idea of each person having full ability to do what they wish unless it infringes on the rights or property of someone else. Since we are human, we can't separate a woman from her fetus prematurely for legal purposes, so it is incumbent on that woman to make her own choices - hopefully in consultation with her boyfriend/husband, or other trusted persons. We, as a society, can't second guess that decision - it's not our right. We can take care of ourselves, and cease to exacerbate the problem. Regarding drugs - it's all about personal choice and responsibility. I'll fight for the right of a meth head to have his drugs and do himself in, but I'll shoot him dead if he comes on my property to take my stuff. Regarding sex, people should be able to contract for sex, love, cooking, cleaning, or pregnancy under any terms they wish as long as outsiders are not harmed. Regarding everything - if people leave each other alone - few regulations and lots of understanding, we may yet evolve into a decent society. Without that, we have little if any hope, other than massive doom to thin the population. Excellent points. My question really wasn't specifically about abortions, it's the idea behind federally mandating a person to do something that will affect THEIR life, not anyone else. They just can't get past their "moral" issues, but I would like for people to think about the societal issues when we continue down the path of taking away civil liberties. My beliefs may not be the same as Joe Smith's down the street, so should he tell me what I should eat, where I should live, who I should marry, what church I should go to, etc.? It just feels as if we allowing religion to get in the way of politics and the two should be very separate. At least that is what our constitution intended. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19011623 United States 11/05/2012 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives? Why are republicans obsessed with killing everything else. I don't think anyone want to terminate a babies life, in a perfect world we would love and care for every life and see it as precious. But if you can't support a child, and have no future to offer, I can see why some make that choice. To the republicans on this site who think an infants life is so worth saving, where are you when it comes to helping the mother. To provide them with food, then you want no part of it and call the mother a burden on society, those damn lazy people on welfare, food stamps, wic. Well you can't have both ways. You can't complain about abortions and then give people shit for being in welfare. A lot of times that's the choice. Until people stop making mistakes this is reality. And shitting on people, like you like to do, makes you a part of the problem not part of the solution. Peace! You didn't see the guy above say my kids would have been better off dead? It is a very common opinion among "pro-choicers." Adoptive parents hear it all e time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27063840 Germany 11/05/2012 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives? Why are republicans obsessed with killing everything else. I don't think anyone want to terminate a babies life, in a perfect world we would love and care for every life and see it as precious. But if you can't support a child, and have no future to offer, I can see why some make that choice. To the republicans on this site who think an infants life is so worth saving, where are you when it comes to helping the mother. To provide them with food, then you want no part of it and call the mother a burden on society, those damn lazy people on welfare, food stamps, wic. Well you can't have both ways. You can't complain about abortions and then give people shit for being in welfare. A lot of times that's the choice. Until people stop making mistakes this is reality. And shitting on people, like you like to do, makes you a part of the problem not part of the solution. Peace! Doesn't make sense. They do get all those programs handed to them since LBJ's great society. So the kid will be funded, either way. I'm not into either political party, as I know enough to realize that there is no difference. I'm not a christian, have no religion, not into politics. But I can see an immoral act for what it is. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6630717 Canada 11/05/2012 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives? Why are republicans obsessed with killing everything else. I don't think anyone want to terminate a babies life, in a perfect world we would love and care for every life and see it as precious. But if you can't support a child, and have no future to offer, I can see why some make that choice. To the republicans on this site who think an infants life is so worth saving, where are you when it comes to helping the mother. To provide them with food, then you want no part of it and call the mother a burden on society, those damn lazy people on welfare, food stamps, wic. Well you can't have both ways. You can't complain about abortions and then give people shit for being in welfare. A lot of times that's the choice. Until people stop making mistakes this is reality. And shitting on people, like you like to do, makes you a part of the problem not part of the solution. Peace! You didn't see the guy above say my kids would have been better off dead? It is a very common opinion among "pro-choicers." Adoptive parents hear it all e time. Actually, the person you're talking about was siding with you. You're just a little to thick to realize it. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26849823 United States 11/05/2012 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives? Why are republicans obsessed with killing everything else. I don't think anyone want to terminate a babies life, in a perfect world we would love and care for every life and see it as precious. But if you can't support a child, and have no future to offer, I can see why some make that choice. To the republicans on this site who think an infants life is so worth saving, where are you when it comes to helping the mother. To provide them with food, then you want no part of it and call the mother a burden on society, those damn lazy people on welfare, food stamps, wic. Well you can't have both ways. You can't complain about abortions and then give people shit for being in welfare. A lot of times that's the choice. Until people stop making mistakes this is reality. And shitting on people, like you like to do, makes you a part of the problem not part of the solution. Peace! Exactly! That is the crux of the issue in my eyes. It is complete and utter hypocrisy. On top of that, they are completely fine with going to war and killing thousands of innocent people, so if they are going to use the moral issue than they can't pick and choose what life is more valuable than another. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27063840 Germany 11/05/2012 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives? This thread's being co-opted, as usual, but the abortion tards on both sides. Nobody will change their mind on this issue, so let's leave it alone and have everyone take responsibility for the consequences of their actions - whatever they may be. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26936404 FREEDOM of action, belief, understanding, feeling, motivation, etc., is what made this country great. The idea of radical self-reliance, helping those who ASK for help, taking responsibility, leaving those alone who make it clear that they want to be left alone, and empowering the idea of each person having full ability to do what they wish unless it infringes on the rights or property of someone else. Since we are human, we can't separate a woman from her fetus prematurely for legal purposes, so it is incumbent on that woman to make her own choices - hopefully in consultation with her boyfriend/husband, or other trusted persons. We, as a society, can't second guess that decision - it's not our right. We can take care of ourselves, and cease to exacerbate the problem. Regarding drugs - it's all about personal choice and responsibility. I'll fight for the right of a meth head to have his drugs and do himself in, but I'll shoot him dead if he comes on my property to take my stuff. Regarding sex, people should be able to contract for sex, love, cooking, cleaning, or pregnancy under any terms they wish as long as outsiders are not harmed. Regarding everything - if people leave each other alone - few regulations and lots of understanding, we may yet evolve into a decent society. Without that, we have little if any hope, other than massive doom to thin the population. Excellent points. My question really wasn't specifically about abortions, it's the idea behind federally mandating a person to do something that will affect THEIR life, not anyone else. They just can't get past their "moral" issues, but I would like for people to think about the societal issues when we continue down the path of taking away civil liberties. My beliefs may not be the same as Joe Smith's down the street, so should he tell me what I should eat, where I should live, who I should marry, what church I should go to, etc.? It just feels as if we allowing religion to get in the way of politics and the two should be very separate. At least that is what our constitution intended. I agree with most of what you posted. I want the government out of my life as much as possible. But if someone was hurting a child or animal, I would want the police involved, or anyone to step in and prevent that. No one has ever told me what to eat or what car to drive or what to wear. And no one is telling women that; either. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1015009 United States 11/05/2012 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I don't get it, why are Republicans so obsessed with telling other people what they can or cannot due with their own bodies and lives? alot of them are christian and its not that they personally want to tell you what to do, they just feel they have to for their religion. now you take one of these people and if they didnt believe in jesus or the bible they wouldnt give 2 shits about u. |