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So many say that they are "God fearing Christians". Question, why are you afraid of God? | |
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| God Loves ALL User ID: 26916259 United States11/05/2012 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10793047 It was you who said, you believe I have no clue. The next logical questions of mine is what do you mean by that? Basic conversation. Logic and reason are enemies of truth REALLY? NOW where did you get that DUMB idea? Logic and reason will produce the truth. Because so many of this world prefer fairy tales, they "believe" the bs of religion. Jesus taught that man who will not learn the nature of God by studying Nature, will remain FOOLS. You are born with "Truth", then the ememy starts to infest our fractured minds and convince us through our "Wonderful" gift of thought of what's true and what's not. Logic begins to reason, then the reason becomes nothing more than a rational excuse to back up the minds illusion of materialism. The end is where you begin, the end is "Truth" In the end we are all living in our own delusion, when you destroy your own delusion you may know "Truth" NO. People loss their logic over time living on this world and its propaganda. If they would but retain it, or return to it, they would come into knowing. I am not living in my own delusion by the way, because I never gave up logic and reasoning. I never became a follower. The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago. "MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER, AMEN. Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23223519 United States11/05/2012 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my humble view, Russell, Fuller, Tesla and Rodin are all telling us what our reality is and how it works. It is about energy, magnetics and vortexes... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26211827 The why comes from the Tao Te Ching and Casteneda, especially his book, Journey to Ixtlan. You are following empty shadows to nowhere. Energy, magnetics, and vortexes do not create the physical reality nor the very natural laws which those energies are beholden to. Our reality stems from a supreme Intelligent, Moral Creator God. We learn about this Truth in the intricate specified complexity of biological systems. These were intelligently designed, not the result of swirling energy fields. You can't escape the Absolute Truth of God. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Romans 1:20 |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26211827 United States11/05/2012 05:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my humble view, Russell, Fuller, Tesla and Rodin are all telling us what our reality is and how it works. It is about energy, magnetics and vortexes... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26211827 The why comes from the Tao Te Ching and Casteneda, especially his book, Journey to Ixtlan. You are following empty shadows to nowhere. Energy, magnetics, and vortexes do not create the physical reality nor the very natural laws which those energies are beholden to. Our reality stems from a supreme Intelligent, Moral Creator God. We learn about this Truth in the intricate specified complexity of biological systems. These were intelligently designed, not the result of swirling energy fields. You can't escape the Absolute Truth of God. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Romans 1:20 Words from someone who follows a book that the author is unknown, the content is misleading and full of contradictions and the message just causes people to become even more lost... Your choice. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26211827 United States11/05/2012 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO. People loss their logic over time living on this world and its propaganda. If they would but retain it, or return to it, they would come into knowing. I am not living in my own delusion by the way, because I never gave up logic and reasoning. I never became a follower. Quoting: God Loves ALL Yes. This is a very solitary journey. It is a time to be brave and stand alone, following your own truth. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23223519 United States11/05/2012 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In my humble view, Russell, Fuller, Tesla and Rodin are all telling us what our reality is and how it works. It is about energy, magnetics and vortexes... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26211827 The why comes from the Tao Te Ching and Casteneda, especially his book, Journey to Ixtlan. You are following empty shadows to nowhere. Energy, magnetics, and vortexes do not create the physical reality nor the very natural laws which those energies are beholden to. Our reality stems from a supreme Intelligent, Moral Creator God. We learn about this Truth in the intricate specified complexity of biological systems. These were intelligently designed, not the result of swirling energy fields. You can't escape the Absolute Truth of God. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Romans 1:20 Words from someone who follows a book that the author is unknown, the content is misleading and full of contradictions and the message just causes people to become even more lost... Your choice. That Book is the Word of God. When you stray from it you begin ranting about utter nonsense, like your previous post about reality being the product of vortexes. Similar to the athiestic delusion of everything being the product of mystical random forces and mutations. DNA alone refutes all of your superstitious mystical beliefs. All of nature points back to an intelligent, purposeful designing Creator. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23223519 United States11/05/2012 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO. People loss their logic over time living on this world and its propaganda. If they would but retain it, or return to it, they would come into knowing. I am not living in my own delusion by the way, because I never gave up logic and reasoning. I never became a follower. Quoting: God Loves ALL Yes. This is a very solitary journey. It is a time to be brave and stand alone, following your own truth. "Follow your own truth." The lost and misguided frequently contradict themselves in a single sentence. Nobody has their "own truth", there is only ONE ABSOLUTE TRUTH irrespective of others opinions. You are not brave for embracing lies. |
| God Loves ALL User ID: 26916259 United States11/05/2012 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO. People loss their logic over time living on this world and its propaganda. If they would but retain it, or return to it, they would come into knowing. I am not living in my own delusion by the way, because I never gave up logic and reasoning. I never became a follower. Quoting: God Loves ALL Yes. This is a very solitary journey. It is a time to be brave and stand alone, following your own truth. "Follow your own truth." The lost and misguided frequently contradict themselves in a single sentence. Nobody has their "own truth", there is only ONE ABSOLUTE TRUTH irrespective of others opinions. You are not brave for embracing lies. I haven't seen OP make one lie here yet or conflict of posting. Those that have their own truth KNOW IT deep within. It is a solitary journey into truth, its the responsibility of each soul and it requires experience and thinking about that experience. It cannot be found in religions. One cannot follow to find it. One has to do individual work in each and every life. The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago. "MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER, AMEN. Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27043566 United States11/05/2012 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | REALLY? NOW where did you get that DUMB idea? Logic and reason will produce the truth. Because so many of this world prefer fairy tales, they "believe" the bs of religion. Jesus taught that man who will not learn the nature of God by studying Nature, will remain FOOLS. You are born with "Truth", then the ememy starts to infest our fractured minds and convince us through our "Wonderful" gift of thought of what's true and what's not. Logic begins to reason, then the reason becomes nothing more than a rational excuse to back up the minds illusion of materialism. The end is where you begin, the end is "Truth" In the end we are all living in our own delusion, when you destroy your own delusion you may know "Truth" NO. People loss their logic over time living on this world and its propaganda. If they would but retain it, or return to it, they would come into knowing. I am not living in my own delusion by the way, because I never gave up logic and reasoning. I never became a follower. You wouldn't be here if you wern't in a delusion.You don't need logic and reason to just "Be" and live. You need logic and reason to inflate your false self(Body) delusions that it is real. Do you really think this is real life? This is the world of delusioned minds. Ifr all that was know was "Truth", then there would be no reason for "reason" and "logic", those are concepts of false mind. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26211827 United States11/05/2012 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NO. People loss their logic over time living on this world and its propaganda. If they would but retain it, or return to it, they would come into knowing. I am not living in my own delusion by the way, because I never gave up logic and reasoning. I never became a follower. Quoting: God Loves ALL Yes. This is a very solitary journey. It is a time to be brave and stand alone, following your own truth. "Follow your own truth." The lost and misguided frequently contradict themselves in a single sentence. Nobody has their "own truth", there is only ONE ABSOLUTE TRUTH irrespective of others opinions. You are not brave for embracing lies. *smile* Following your "own truth" means doing what YOU think is right. Not what I think. In other words, believe what you like. However, no matter what any of us believe, there is only one Truth. Some will find it and some won't. We'll see soon what that truth is... Peace |
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| God Loves ALL User ID: 26916259 United States11/05/2012 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: God Loves ALL REALLY? NOW where did you get that DUMB idea? Logic and reason will produce the truth. Because so many of this world prefer fairy tales, they "believe" the bs of religion. Jesus taught that man who will not learn the nature of God by studying Nature, will remain FOOLS. You are born with "Truth", then the ememy starts to infest our fractured minds and convince us through our "Wonderful" gift of thought of what's true and what's not. Logic begins to reason, then the reason becomes nothing more than a rational excuse to back up the minds illusion of materialism. The end is where you begin, the end is "Truth" In the end we are all living in our own delusion, when you destroy your own delusion you may know "Truth" NO. People loss their logic over time living on this world and its propaganda. If they would but retain it, or return to it, they would come into knowing. I am not living in my own delusion by the way, because I never gave up logic and reasoning. I never became a follower. You wouldn't be here if you wern't in a delusion.You don't need logic and reason to just "Be" and live. You need logic and reason to inflate your false self(Body) delusions that it is real. Do you really think this is real life? This is the world of delusioned minds. Ifr all that was know was "Truth", then there would be no reason for "reason" and "logic", those are concepts of false mind. I am quite secure in who I AM. And my role. I am in no delusion. I know exactly how I live. The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago. "MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER, AMEN. Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread |
| Ozicell User ID: 25884429  Australia11/05/2012 05:45 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There may be only one truth but no one has all the pieces of the puzzle. Until all the pieces are known, truth remains a subjective perspective! Last Edited by Ozicell on 11/05/2012 05:46 PM That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26211827 United States11/05/2012 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't be afraid. There is nothing to fear. We are not these frail, weak and finite physical bodies. We are SO much more than that. In truth, we are powerful, infinite spiritual beings. In other words, we were never born and will never die. So, don't be afraid. You are doing fine and you don't have to be perfect, you are perfect the way you are. |
| Ozicell User ID: 25884429 Australia11/05/2012 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Christ never taught about fearing God but rather being childlike in your relationship with Him! John wrote "There is no fear in love". That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon. |
| God Loves ALL User ID: 26916259 United States11/05/2012 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There may be only one truth but no one has all the pieces of the puzzle. Until all the pieces are known, truth remains a subjective perspective! Quoting: Ozicell there are some truths that do change. And some hold things to be true that are not. most of the time they will couch this as "beliefs" whether its about religion, or politics, or all sorts of other stuff but beliefs are postulates, not truths. The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago. "MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER, AMEN. Nice video: [link to www.youtube.com] Make this World a Better One Thread: Walter Russell Quotes Walter Russell thread |
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| Ozicell User ID: 25884429 Australia11/05/2012 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There may be only one truth but no one has all the pieces of the puzzle. Until all the pieces are known, truth remains a subjective perspective! Quoting: Ozicell there are some truths that do change. And some hold things to be true that are not. most of the time they will couch this as "beliefs" whether its about religion, or politics, or all sorts of other stuff but beliefs are postulates, not truths. Read again what I said and you'll see that while the truth remains, it is subjective perspective that changes. Example, you and I are sitting on opposite side of the table, in the middle is a mug. I see and describe the mug as having its handle to the left while see and describe it as being to the right! The mug is a mug - that doesn't change but our perspective can. That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon. |
| Ozicell User ID: 25884429 Australia11/05/2012 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Christ never taught about fearing God but rather being childlike in your relationship with Him! John wrote "There is no fear in love". Quoting: Ozicell I will say this one more time. I am not a child. I am not inferior or weak. I am a powerful being of light. As are you... A child is bold and loving in their approach to a parent and should not be full of fear in their presence! This is the Christ's teaching - approach the Father as an offspring not a fearful subject! That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26211827 United States11/05/2012 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Christ never taught about fearing God but rather being childlike in your relationship with Him! John wrote "There is no fear in love". Quoting: Ozicell I will say this one more time. I am not a child. I am not inferior or weak. I am a powerful being of light. As are you... A child is bold and loving in their approach to a parent and should not be full of fear in their presence! This is the Christ's teaching - approach the Father as an offspring not a fearful subject! As the other Christians on this thread tried to do, you are trying to twist your view of Christianity around to fit your needs. That's cool, but I don't need it. Thanks though. |
| Ozicell User ID: 25884429 Australia11/05/2012 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Christ never taught about fearing God but rather being childlike in your relationship with Him! John wrote "There is no fear in love". Quoting: Ozicell I will say this one more time. I am not a child. I am not inferior or weak. I am a powerful being of light. As are you... A child is bold and loving in their approach to a parent and should not be full of fear in their presence! This is the Christ's teaching - approach the Father as an offspring not a fearful subject! As the other Christians on this thread tried to do, you are trying to twist your view of Christianity around to fit your needs. That's cool, but I don't need it. Thanks though. No probs! We are all entitled to our beliefs.  That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26211827 United States11/05/2012 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26211827 I will say this one more time. I am not a child. I am not inferior or weak. I am a powerful being of light. As are you... A child is bold and loving in their approach to a parent and should not be full of fear in their presence! This is the Christ's teaching - approach the Father as an offspring not a fearful subject! As the other Christians on this thread tried to do, you are trying to twist your view of Christianity around to fit your needs. That's cool, but I don't need it. Thanks though. No probs! We are all entitled to our beliefs. Thank you my friend for your respectful reply. Maybe some day, when we have each found the truth we are searching for, we can meet again and laugh at our struggles getting there. Peace |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27043566 United States11/05/2012 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Christ never taught about fearing God but rather being childlike in your relationship with Him! John wrote "There is no fear in love". Quoting: Ozicell I will say this one more time. I am not a child. I am not inferior or weak. I am a powerful being of light. As are you... Show your power, Jumble the words on my computer screen. If you cannot your claims are empty. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26211827 United States11/05/2012 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Christ never taught about fearing God but rather being childlike in your relationship with Him! John wrote "There is no fear in love". Quoting: Ozicell I will say this one more time. I am not a child. I am not inferior or weak. I am a powerful being of light. As are you... Show your power, Jumble the words on my computer screen. If you cannot your claims are empty. *grin* I am just a simple man. No powers, but my heart. I can't move objects, turn water into wine or walk on water. But, do I know who I really am? Yes. Am I this physical body? No. This body is my tool to experience this dense physical reality. I now have remembered who I am and that's all the power I need. I don't need to prove anything to you. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23223519 United States11/05/2012 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't be afraid. There is nothing to fear. We are not these frail, weak and finite physical bodies. We are SO much more than that. In truth, we are powerful, infinite spiritual beings. In other words, we were never born and will never die. So, don't be afraid. You are doing fine and you don't have to be perfect, you are perfect the way you are. "Ye will not surely die, Ye will be as Gods" The same Lie over and over again. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27043566 United States11/05/2012 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Christ never taught about fearing God but rather being childlike in your relationship with Him! John wrote "There is no fear in love". Quoting: Ozicell I will say this one more time. I am not a child. I am not inferior or weak. I am a powerful being of light. As are you... Show your power, Jumble the words on my computer screen. If you cannot your claims are empty. *grin* I am just a simple man. No powers, but my heart. I can't move objects, turn water into wine or walk on water. But, do I know who I really am? Yes. Am I this physical body? No. This body is my tool to experience this dense physical reality. I now have remembered who I am and that's all the power I need. I don't need to prove anything to you. Then why did you choose to leave the Light to come here? Why leave the limtless to go into the limited? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27043566 United States11/05/2012 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't be afraid. There is nothing to fear. We are not these frail, weak and finite physical bodies. We are SO much more than that. In truth, we are powerful, infinite spiritual beings. In other words, we were never born and will never die. So, don't be afraid. You are doing fine and you don't have to be perfect, you are perfect the way you are. "Ye will not surely die, Ye will be as Gods" The same Lie over and over again. What's the truth then? |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 26211827 United States11/05/2012 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26211827 I will say this one more time. I am not a child. I am not inferior or weak. I am a powerful being of light. As are you... Show your power, Jumble the words on my computer screen. If you cannot your claims are empty. *grin* I am just a simple man. No powers, but my heart. I can't move objects, turn water into wine or walk on water. But, do I know who I really am? Yes. Am I this physical body? No. This body is my tool to experience this dense physical reality. I now have remembered who I am and that's all the power I need. I don't need to prove anything to you. Then why did you choose to leave the Light to come here? Why leave the limtless to go into the limited? To learn. Why do we accept difficult challenges like climbing a mountain? To experience it first hand. And like a guide, to help others with their adventure and then return Home. Simple. |
