So many say that they are "God fearing Christians". Question, why are you afraid of God?

And that they are faking it anyways.

They don't actually care, they just pretend to to fit in.

It's that simple is it? Fool. This is not a football game. You are here to find the truth for yourself. Not to do what you are told.

Talk about a slave mentality, "Either you're with him or you're against him.". So, if I don't pray to, fear and honor your God, then he will burn me? Can't you see how sick you sound?

I feel sorry for you...

they believe without knowing it, in Lucifer and satanism, that is why they are afraid. Once they come out of that, they won't be.

(KJV)Psalm 111:10
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments : his praise endureth for ever.

(KJV)Proverbs 1:7
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

(KJV)Proverbs 2:5
Then shalt thou understand the fear of the Lord , and find the knowledge of God.


Fearing God keeps us in line, because He punishes evil. The best way to explain it is this. A child fears doing something wrong and getting punished by their parents. It's this fear, that leads the child to not do anything stupid. It is also because of this, why spankings are now thought to be evil. With my own eyes, I have seen the ill effects of it. Children get everything they want, thus losing respect of the parents and when the parents DO try to assert authority, the child pays them no mind. Note, that fear also includes respect. A LOT of people do not respect the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and thus, we see many hypocrites.


(KJV)Proverbs 13:24
He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.


(KJV)Hebrews 12:5-17
And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

[6] For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

[7] If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

[8] But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

[9] Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us , and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

[10] For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.

[11] Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

[12] Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees;

[13] And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.

[14] Follow peace with all men , and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

[15] Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you , and thereby many be defiled;

[16] Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.

[17] For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.



Glory be to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!!!

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What your first line said is what Jesus came here to teach.
Live your life to the fullest and treat others with kindness and you will be blessed. You are born with everything you need to enter the kingdom of heaven. You know what right and wrong is. If you do or say something that makes you and/or others feel good about themselves then you did the right thing. This is getting closer to god.

Killing someone does not bring out good emotions unless your sick in the head. You know you did wrong and you know you wronged the other person. That is moving away from god and thus is sin. It doesn't matter WHY you killed him. God will judge that action accordingly.

Anything you do to bring out negative emotions is sinning.
Anything you do to bring out positive emotions is a blessing.

You don't need religion or even religious books (although they are great moral teachings and can help people who are lost) to go to heaven.

We are not lost children. Well, we aren't supposed to be...

Most christians don't realize they are with Satan! Jesus saving them by covering them in his blood, is about as satanic as you can get. Jesus did not institute their eucharist either, eating blood and bodies is a satanic ritual. Wearing crosses on a chain around necks with Jesus on it, is satanic, because you are being used to celebrate his being murdered on a cross. Only beloveds, guess what, he didn't die, which you bible tells you. He was not resurrected, he lived, was in a coma and when to Syria in a craft, which was not an ascension into heaven.

The supposed ascension of his BODY into heaven, is but another satanic belief, which is about you getting to stay on satanic worlds like this one. Animal meat suits do not thrive on the higher worlds, if he kept his meat suit, they are telling you they think they succeeded in keep him ON this world. Ponder these things, if you are able to ponder at all. Pondering is good, its godly in fact.

I suggest actually hearing from Jesus, before you speak things that you don't know.

Most Christians have never heard from Jesus, please enlighten us about what you have heard. Much of your signature file is not correct, shall I shred it for you?

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Says whom? When is the last time you did something wrong? But if you feared and respected Father, you wouldn't have done it, now would you? Only God's children will inherit the kingdom and they are those who obey His commands. For our benefit. Like I said to the other AC. Actually hear from the Lord, before you speak things that you do not know. Proverbs 3:5-7 and John 14:16.

Common sense statement. Doesn't God always speak to His people? If you don't hear from God, that should pretty much explain everything;


Baptism

Mark 16:16
16) He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
� KJV

John 3:3-8
3) Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4) Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5) Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6) That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7) Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8) The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

John 20:22
22) And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
� KJV

Acts 2:38
38) Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
� KJV

Romans 8:9-14
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

10) And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11) But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

12) Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

13) For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

14) For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
� KJV

1 John 3:24
24) And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
� KJV

1 John 5:7-8
7) For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

8) And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.


1 Corinthians 12:3
3) Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.


Acts 10
44) While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

45) And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

46) For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

47) Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

48) And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.


Acts 8:37-40 KJV
37) And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

38) And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

39) And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

40) But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Cæsarea.


Acts 8:15-17 KJV

15) Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:

16) (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)

17) Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.


Acts 8:12 KJV

But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.


Acts 5:29-32 KJV

29) Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

30) The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

31) Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

32) And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.


Acts 4:29-31 KJV

29) And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word,

30) By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus.

31) And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.


Acts 2:1-4 KJV

1) And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

2) And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

3) And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

4) And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.


Acts
10:42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.

10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.


Romans 5:3-11 KJV

3) And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;

4) And patience, experience; and experience, hope:

5) And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

6) For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

7) For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.

8) But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

9) Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

10) For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

11) And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

Teaching through punishment is evil. It's is as simple as that. If you could just see that small truth, maybe we could find some common ground for discussion. Obviously we can't.

Are you a robot just copying quotes from some book? Can't you speak for yourself? Are you just a lost controlled slave?

THINK FOR YOURSELF!

I was actually about to ask him the same thing. If Jesus's only purpose on earth was to die on the cross for our sins, I don't think he would have wasted much of his life teaching others how to find salvation.

Again...when did God tell you that?


(KJV)Proverbs 3:5-7
Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

[6] In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

[7] Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the Lord , and depart from evil.


(KJV)Isaiah 55:6-9
Seek ye the Lord while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:

[7] Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord , and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

[8] For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord .

[9] For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.



I think we both know that answer. Good day to you all.


35) Thus shall ye say every one to his neighbour, and every one to his brother, What hath the Lord answered? and, What hath the Lord spoken?

36) And the burden of the Lord shall ye mention no more: for every man's word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the Lord of hosts our God.

37) Thus shalt thou say to the prophet, What hath the Lord answered thee? and, What hath the Lord spoken?

38) But since ye say, The burden of the Lord; therefore thus saith the Lord; Because ye say this word, The burden of the Lord, and I have sent unto you, saying, Ye shall not say, The burden of the Lord;

39) Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly forget you, and I will forsake you, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and cast you out of my presence:
� KJV

God speaks to his people by mind to mind thru meditation. Jesus did not atone for you, he cannot do that. I see that after my nap I need to come back and shred your signature file. The holy ghost within you, is the Father Fragment, not the 3rd person of Trinity as to your Romans quotes. Christ did not die for the ungodly. He did not die. His body lived until he was 115 years old, although it was desire that they thought he was dead, so he could go peacefully away to teach more hungry ears in other other lands without pursuit. Because you copy and paste, does not mean you hear from god or Jesus. The bible is not the word of god, it has too many lies in it to be that.

If you hear from Jesus you hear mentally thru meditation. These people you quoted above, produced memorized hearsay plus much of it was corrupted later by your roman church and continues to be corrupted. The word JEW was not in the bible before the 1800's, as there were NO JEWS back then, did you know that? Judeans, Hebrews, Semites, but not a single Jew. The Jew word is the creation of the Khazars for themselves in the 1700's and they put it in the bible so they could steal the so called "holy land" and created the Diaspora story which didn't happen either.

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Sir, what we fear, is dissapointing God, and we are in awe of God. We are not afraid of God, as you put it...

Maybe it's just semantics- God Fearing _____ (Fill blank with religion of your choice) or just how a plain marketing slogan went wrong.

Could have sound better with God Loving _____

Anyway, IMHO, to fear something usually would mean you do not understand it well enough. Not enough information, not enough wisdom to make your own judgement on the issue or just plain mis-information at work.

It's not a good thing that you need to fear something to respect it. You can be awed by it, but something that instilling fear so that someone would believe what you preach is just so not civilized.

but you are, you ones are afraid of his "hell fire". I know, I have conversed on this with many and it does not exist, it is the story created by the antichrist thugs. You want hellfire in fact
This is what it means, as an acronym. HavingEverLastingLife, FieryIntelligenceReasonatingEternally. See how the antichrist LIES to you?

You are OF GOD and if you choose eternal life, you will be about working on becoming LIKE HIM. which Jesus taught! and is not understood.

Come on, don't talk in circles. Fear means being afraid. You do speak English do you not?

Oh, and so you needed to tell me that you are the Nobody? Why? Silly, lost, arrogant people. Sad really.

I said that! Me! I can think for myself unlike you...

Not semantics. It's just a plain ass lie. Now, that's real truth!

Why to fear doing wrong? Duh.

In truth, there is no doing wrong...

Once you begin to understand that you can begin to free yourself.

there are two basic emotions
Love........fear
most people have all kinds of fears
When one realizes that the worst possible thing anyone can do
is offend God,they begin to re order their focus and how they
organize their thinking and relationships.
One's personal responsibility in that relationship is primary, not taking God and His Love for us for granted.
Is fear merely animal based and self serving....
or through conscious choice do we "begin" to engage in
the most important relationship of this experience responsibly.

Denial wont bring you nowhere. Duality is and will always be about choices. Do not choose tomorrow worse than yesterday.

Why would God ever be offended? That is a flawed human emotion. Is he/she not a supreme, all knowing, all aware advanced being? Or is he just a control freak?

Why would you be afraid of offending God? He wants you to become an all knowing and advanced being also...

OP's argument is that they re-defined the word fear?
what if they redefined green too. what if grass is really pink?

oh the lies we have been told.

/sarcasm

If you cant go by the definitions in the dictionary then nothing has meaning.

Look up the definition so you know WTF your talking about.

fear and afraid have different meanings in your first sentance vs your second sentance.

Learn english MF!

It isn't "fear" as in "afraid" of.
It's deep, profound, highest "respect" in awe - worship.
We believers worship God.

What?