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As A Registered Libertarian Why Should I Vote for Romney & Not Gary Johnson??

 
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As A Registered Libertarian Why Should I Vote for Romney & Not Gary Johnson??
Okay Republicans here's your chance to make your plea to me, a still undecided voter. I truly wish to see Obama out of office, but cannot bring myself to vote for someone who my views do not align with. My main issues in this election are the economy, the value of the dollar, energy prices, the endless wars in the middle east, the ability to play online poker legally, and the legalization of industrial hemp.

Why Should I Not "waste" my vote on Gary Johnson?

EDIT: I Live in Florida If That Matters.

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Because dumb ass, and IM SO FUCKING you know what Vote for w.e the fuck you want
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You are like me. I can't vote for Obama or Romney. I figure whoever I vote for I will be throwing my vote away so I may as well throw it to Johnson. Then at least I won't be ashamed.
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You should vote for Gary Johnson.
THREE LAWS OF TYRANNY


Tyranny Law #1:
"Any power that can be abused will be abused."

Tyranny Law #2:
"Abuse always expands to fill the limits of resistance to it."

Tyranny Law #3:
"If people don't resist the abuses of others, they will have no one to resist the abuses of themselves, and tyranny will prevail."
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Re: As A Registered Libertarian Why Should I Vote for Romney & Not Gary Johnson??
a psychopath holds no real human opinions, so he'll say whatever he's learned his audience wants to hear. he'll flip-flop whenever it suits him to gain advantage. psychopaths are very good in business and politics. a ruthless liar with no conscience is a deadly opponent.

although grinning glib on the surface, his real self will emerge, like he may get a police uniform and car, and pull people over and threaten them, or worse, murder like the hillside stranglers.

he'll sooner or later become violent, like attacking a weaker person, and shaving their head, or some other assault. psychopaths lose their composure easily if questioned. the mask WILL drop.

psychos LOVE death and war, but will avoid the risk personally by perhaps fleeing to a foreign country, all the while laughingly calling for more people to be drafted, sent, used etc.

psychopaths are dangerous. real people are sheep to be slaughtered.

vote pathocracy. vote Romney.
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You are like me. I can't vote for Obama or Romney. I figure whoever I vote for I will be throwing my vote away so I may as well throw it to Johnson. Then at least I won't be ashamed.
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if libertarians get 5% vote they get the fed $$$
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You are like me. I can't vote for Obama or Romney. I figure whoever I vote for I will be throwing my vote away so I may as well throw it to Johnson. Then at least I won't be ashamed.
 Quoting: strgzr


This is my thinking.

Can anyone confirm the rumors I'm hearing that if he gets over 5% of the vote he will get millions in federal election money for the next election??
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I would not just like hemp legalized but marijuana. Online poker would be huge as well as sports betting. I am sick of having to use overseas servers.

However, I can't bring myself to vote for Gary Johnson or any other know-nothing extremist who wants to end the fed, have states print their own currencies, have PRIVATE corporations print their own currencies, and who wants to abandon NATO and global US military hegemony which allows the bretton woods system to continue and US dollar reserve currency status to be maintained.

Frankly, I don't give a shit who you vote for, because someone with such insane ideas will never be president, and Obama is good president. Not great, but good.
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if libertarians get 5% vote they get the fed $$$
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Can you provide a source for this?
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You are like me. I can't vote for Obama or Romney. I figure whoever I vote for I will be throwing my vote away so I may as well throw it to Johnson. Then at least I won't be ashamed.
 Quoting: strgzr


This is my thinking.

Can anyone confirm the rumors I'm hearing that if he gets over 5% of the vote he will get millions in federal election money for the next election??
 Quoting: MikeOxmaul


Its not rumors its a fact. Google it.
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WRONG OP YOU WILL HAVE VOTED FOR BOTH!!!!!!

I can see you know. Late 30's middle class proly work in marketing have a wife. ONE THING I KNOW ABOUT YOU YOU NEVER TAKE RISKS!
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a psychopath holds no real human opinions, so he'll say whatever he's learned his audience wants to hear. he'll flip-flop whenever it suits him to gain advantage. psychopaths are very good in business and politics. a ruthless liar with no conscience is a deadly opponent.

although grinning glib on the surface, his real self will emerge, like he may get a police uniform and car, and pull people over and threaten them, or worse, murder like the hillside stranglers.

he'll sooner or later become violent, like attacking a weaker person, and shaving their head, or some other assault. psychopaths lose their composure easily if questioned. the mask WILL drop.

psychos LOVE death and war, but will avoid the risk personally by perhaps fleeing to a foreign country, all the while laughingly calling for more people to be drafted, sent, used etc.

psychopaths are dangerous. real people are sheep to be slaughtered.

vote pathocracy. vote Romney.
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Re: As A Registered Libertarian Why Should I Vote for Romney & Not Gary Johnson??
As a fellow Libertarian, don't.

Romney is a continuation of the perpetual decline of America.

He represents everything the status-quo represents, and that is what is killing this nation.

The status-quo needs to die and be replaced.

The status-quo has failed.

We need a fundamental restructuring of our political ideologies before any true progress can be made, and that will never happen with Democrats or Republicans in power. They're what is being used to keep the American people in the dark regarding how bad our government has been corrupted by corporatism.
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Re: As A Registered Libertarian Why Should I Vote for Romney & Not Gary Johnson??
Okay Republicans here's your chance to make your plea to me, a still undecided voter. I truly wish to see Obama out of office, but cannot bring myself to vote for someone who my views do not align with. My main issues in this election are the economy, the value of the dollar, energy prices, the endless wars in the middle east, the ability to play online poker legally, and the legalization of industrial hemp.

Why Should I Not "waste" my vote on Gary Johnson?

EDIT: I Live in Florida If That Matters.
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Live and Vote Libertarian. One day the masses will wake up and realize we are all Libertarian!
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Re: As A Registered Libertarian Why Should I Vote for Romney & Not Gary Johnson??
if libertarians get 5% vote they get the fed $$$
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Can you provide a source for this?
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Thread: If Gary Johnson gets 5% of the vote, the Libertarian Party has access to millions of government dollars in 2016.

P.S. it's YOUR vote - vote for the person you honestly feel would govern the way you see fit. We're screwed either way, might as well get your say...

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Re: As A Registered Libertarian Why Should I Vote for Romney & Not Gary Johnson??
if libertarians get 5% vote they get the fed $$$
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Can you provide a source for this?
 Quoting: MikeOxmaul


Thread: If Gary Johnson gets 5% of the vote, the Libertarian Party has access to millions of government dollars in 2016.

P.S. it's YOUR vote - vote for the person you honestly feel would govern the way you see fit. We're screwed either way, might as well get your say...
 Quoting: notgonna


With this added bit of information I don't see how I can vote for anyone other then Johnson now. Thanks for the input everyone.
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Yeah, don't vote for Romney. That's the problem with politics today, everyone has been convinced there are only two choices which when it comes down to it, are pretty much the same shit with a different label. One jar of shit with a donkey. One jar of shit with an elephant. Maybe one smells a bit more than the other, but come on, are you actually going to eat shit?

With either party, there is no accountability. They provide the illusion that they're always at each other's throats, but they continue to slowly erode our civil liberties, frisking us at airports major airports (but not at many small ones!), watching our every electronic move... they both send bombs overseas which have killed hundreds of thousands of innocents. They both support bailouts and the watering down of our currency. Meanwhile doing all kinds of favors for big business. Think Libertarians are the big business slaves? Think again. Look at corporate donations, and you'll see who the real slaves are.

So tomorrow, OP, don't eat shit.
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a psychopath holds no real human opinions, so he'll say whatever he's learned his audience wants to hear. he'll flip-flop whenever it suits him to gain advantage. psychopaths are very good in business and politics. a ruthless liar with no conscience is a deadly opponent.

although grinning glib on the surface, his real self will emerge, like he may get a police uniform and car, and pull people over and threaten them, or worse, murder like the hillside stranglers.

he'll sooner or later become violent, like attacking a weaker person, and shaving their head, or some other assault. psychopaths lose their composure easily if questioned. the mask WILL drop.

psychos LOVE death and war, but will avoid the risk personally by perhaps fleeing to a foreign country, all the while laughingly calling for more people to be drafted, sent, used etc.
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Thanks OP for that VERY accurate description of Barack Hussein Obama. Chilling!
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who the fuck is gary johnson ?
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a psychopath holds no real human opinions, so he'll say whatever he's learned his audience wants to hear. he'll flip-flop whenever it suits him to gain advantage. psychopaths are very good in business and politics. a ruthless liar with no conscience is a deadly opponent.

although grinning glib on the surface, his real self will emerge, like he may get a police uniform and car, and pull people over and threaten them, or worse, murder like the hillside stranglers.

he'll sooner or later become violent, like attacking a weaker person, and shaving their head, or some other assault. psychopaths lose their composure easily if questioned. the mask WILL drop.

psychos LOVE death and war, but will avoid the risk personally by perhaps fleeing to a foreign country, all the while laughingly calling for more people to be drafted, sent, used etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26579062


Thanks OP for that VERY accurate description of Barack Hussein Obama. Chilling!
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Romney is that good at what he does, he got you fooled.
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who the fuck is gary johnson ?
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A Candidate who puts his faith in the People.


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You are like me. I can't vote for Obama or Romney. I figure whoever I vote for I will be throwing my vote away so I may as well throw it to Johnson. Then at least I won't be ashamed.
 Quoting: strgzr


This is my thinking.

Can anyone confirm the rumors I'm hearing that if he gets over 5% of the vote he will get millions in federal election money for the next election??
 Quoting: MikeOxmaul


Yes, so next election, even though still only 2 parties have a chance of winning, the taxpayers will fund 3 parties and there will be a strong enough Libertarian candidate to throw the election to one side or the other, by dropping out at the last minute and endorsing one of the major party candidates.

Hm, come to think of it, since I generally like Libertarian positions, that may not be a bad idea ...

But no this election is very important, Romney may or may not be a great President, but Obama is clearly a terrible one, dangerous, and even ineligible. So I am voting for Romney.
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You are like me. I can't vote for Obama or Romney. I figure whoever I vote for I will be throwing my vote away so I may as well throw it to Johnson. Then at least I won't be ashamed.
 Quoting: strgzr


This is my thinking.

Can anyone confirm the rumors I'm hearing that if he gets over 5% of the vote he will get millions in federal election money for the next election??
 Quoting: MikeOxmaul


Yes, so next election, even though still only 2 parties have a chance of winning, the taxpayers will fund 3 parties and there will be a strong enough Libertarian candidate to throw the election to one side or the other, by dropping out at the last minute and endorsing one of the major party candidates.

Hm, come to think of it, since I generally like Libertarian positions, that may not be a bad idea ...

But no this election is very important, Romney may or may not be a great President, but Obama is clearly a terrible one, dangerous, and even ineligible. So I am voting for Romney.
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This is the logic of a third-grader.
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Okay Republicans here's your chance to make your plea to me, a still undecided voter. I truly wish to see Obama out of office, but cannot bring myself to vote for someone who my views do not align with. My main issues in this election are the economy, the value of the dollar, energy prices, the endless wars in the middle east, the ability to play online poker legally, and the legalization of industrial hemp.

Why Should I Not "waste" my vote on Gary Johnson?

EDIT: I Live in Florida If That Matters.
 Quoting: MikeOxmaul


Your wasting your vote if you vote establishment. The only way it counts is to vote 3rd party.
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if libertarians get 5% vote they get the fed $$$
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Can you provide a source for this?
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Thread: If Gary Johnson gets 5% of the vote, the Libertarian Party has access to millions of government dollars in 2016.

P.S. it's YOUR vote - vote for the person you honestly feel would govern the way you see fit. We're screwed either way, might as well get your say...
 Quoting: notgonna


With this added bit of information I don't see how I can vote for anyone other then Johnson now. Thanks for the input everyone.
 Quoting: MikeOxmaul



In the same boat! I am probably going to do the same after I do some final checking on the three.
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I'm a Libertarian Constitutionalist.

I don't give a shit what you do with your own life, whether you make it a success or a failure, that is the outcome of the choices you make, but please take responsibility for yourself and don't make ME pay for YOUR choices and we're all good.

Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Apportionment Act of 1911!

Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be.

Restore the Republic.

It's a flower, not something to be feared.

cow - Moo!
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Re: As A Registered Libertarian Why Should I Vote for Romney & Not Gary Johnson??
I am an objectivist, which is a libertarian with a brain.
It doesn't matter who you vote for, the game is rigged
in the easiest way possible, mainly that both canidates
are on the same side.
If Republicans "win"(the right wing of the demopublican
party) then doom will be forestalled, just not for long.
Romney will buy time. And a worthless vote for johnson
might help Obamanation get back in, in which case we
will go to hell on greased skids, as Ob ama finishes
destroying the country he grew up hating so much.
Of course the best route is to not vote at all, the new world odor looks to the vote to ligitimize their
takeover of the planet, Romney in slow motion, Obama
(a self professed employee of the UN) A RAPID DESCENT
into a new worldwide dark age.
Personally as a cow going to slaugter, I refuse the
ultimate humiliation of picking my own executioner,
just so the leftist looters can feel better about killing me
You can ignore the consequences of
your actions, but you cannot ignore
the RESULTS of the consequences of your actions

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It comes down to your principles vs. your ability to accept a second term Marxist. Which one do you want to keep?
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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You should vote for Gary Johnson.
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