THE LEFT/RIGHT PARADIGM AND THE NWO ARE A BATTLE OF IDEAS.

You are absolutely right. America has abandoned and forgotten the principles that made her great. Principles of freedom and independence and the common sense responsibility that comes with it.

This nation is in need of a serious dose of "Common Sense". [link to www.amazon.com]

Followed by a history lesson about about "Liberal Facism". [link to www.amazon.com]

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Thanks bud. I havn't read that book yet, I am going to order it now actually.

Which one? For me, Common Sense (the Thomas Paine re-print as well as Glenn Beck's book) were simply confirmations of what and why I believe the way I do. I really learned more about our history from Liberal Facism though. Great book.

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Oh, both of your links took me to the same book..I will check out both!

I agree 100%. I believe that this is at the heart of the 'awakening' that is going on and that is necessary for the NWO agenda to be thwarted. It didn't make many waves, but I will also offer a link, a repost, actually, of some information that may be of assistance or insight.

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Thanks.

And thanks for the link!

Can't really add anything to that!



Good post!

Thanks bud!

ha ha oops. Here is the link to Liberal Facism. [link to www.amazon.com]

I edited my post above for the right link.

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Thanks man.

LOL at a Glenn Beck book being used as something to ignite change.

Usury (interest on money) causes the poor to become the majority.

The economic problems we face now revive the controversy of Capitalism versus Socialism. Both economic systems have their limitations. Supporters of Capitalism will argue that the problems are caused by government intervention in the markets. Proponents of Socialism will argue that the problems are caused by too little regulation of the markets. Both arguments seem reasonable but they conflict. The spread of poverty caused by the failure of the money system creates the need for new ways of thinking.

The real cause of the problems lies in the nature of our money system in which interest on money is charged. Interest causes wealth to concentrate as the poor pay interest to the rich. Interest can therefore be seen as a tax on poverty to the benefit of the rich. Money in the bank is backed by debt, so interest is a fraud that forces the poor into debt if the rich do not take the money out of their accounts and spend it. The following example demonstrates this and also that interest on money is unsustainable and leads to crisis:

"If someone brought a 1/10 oz gold coin to the bank in the year 1 AD, and the money remained there until the year 2000 AD, collecting a yearly interest of 4%, the amount of gold in the account would have been 3.6 * 10^31 kilogramme of gold weighing 6,000,000 times the complete mass of the Earth."

When interest is charged on a limited scale or over a short timeframe then those problems do not surface. Interest is an insidious process. Over time it is inescapable that it reduces large numbers of people to a state of servitude to the money lenders. This is a long term development that transcends the life span of a human. Interest is the main reason why a number of civilisations have failed and why Western civilisation is about to fail. Therefore all interest is usury and the current financial system is a usury financial system. Interest is also the cause of inflation as more and more money has to be created to keep the economy going. To get an understanding of the issue, you can view the documentary "Money as Debt" on our current money system.

See: Money of the Natural Economic Order (link below)

See also: The collapse of civilisation by usury

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Common Sense was writen by Thomas Paine. Glenn Beck's book is a re-print of that plus his own take on it in one book. It isn't something to "ignite change" so much as a look back at what made sense and worked in the past that we should re-learn.

the problem is the undo corporate influence on the political process

If we want change we need serious revamping of a few key topics.

Money
Religion
The Social Contract

NOT changing any of these will just lead us down the same path regardless of all other changes. I know it's a broad brush statement but there is no way to explain it in a forum without hours of work typing. I'm confident though that all of these subject matters have been covered extensively.

If we want change we need serious revamping of a few key topics.

Money
Religion
The Social Contract

NOT changing any one of these will just lead us down the same path regardless of all other changes. I know it's a broad brush statement but there is no way to explain it in a forum without hours of work typing. I'm confident though that all of these subject matters have been covered extensively.

I think it's more than just giving up. So many people today take our high standard of living for granted, act like the world owes them a living, and expect the government to pay for it all. It isn't just about believing you can make it big on your own. It is about the basics of right and wrong as it pertains to freedom and being responsible for your own life regardless of whether you earn a lot of money and are financially successful or are dirt poor.

There is no more battle anymore, maybe some groups are, but the majority of humanity are co- creating with God , or the daughter of god, our Goddess!!! Very soon most of us will be working with Christ and unity consciousness.
We are one love!!!!
Welcome the Golden age of Aquarius

I agree that our monetary system is a huge problem. It's one of the biggest reasons I supported Ron Paul. He was the only candidate willing to even discuss it.

That part was well said!

Read Glenn Beck and Jonah Goldberg? Seriously? How can a sane individual promote these shills?

Allow me::bsflag:

You said it Resister.

I even saw a poll that said Americans aged 18-29 prefer socialism over capitalism....

Remember the vid of the KGB agent who said they would do this? That through stealth, they would get us to accept socialism?

It seems to be working on a lot of people.

The fact that you criticise those books without ever reading them tells me who the real shill is...

I like you're OP. Capitalism isn't the problem, - out of control capitalism is the problem. Anything can be corrupted.

The solution is passing a single law: Maximum earnings, capital gains, profit, and fair IP legislation.

What range of earnings is reasonable for full time positions? 25K to 350K? This can be discussed ongoing and we can certainly have realistic conversations on what multiple between the lowest and highest is correct given very real differences in ability and contribution.

What if I somehow earn the maximum per year in a single day, why would I have incentive to do any more work the rest of the year? The law will be written to have a maximum per day and per year. The details of this will examine the various loopholes that can come about and close them.

What about company profit? Well, companies can fill up a savings to help with economic slow times, of course, and beyond that they would direct profit funds towards R&D, better capital equipment, paying the employees more, lowering the prices of goods, etc.

What if I get lucky and exceed the capital gains for a given year? You have to distribute that extra to the employees of the respective companies in a fair way. A fair way does not necessarily mean in an equal way… people are not all “equal” so to speak, and we need to give according to the contribution people have given to the company.

What about the fair IP legislation? What’s that all about? That’s about companies today making everyone sign something that says the company owns everything you think. Essentially, companies have become farms to harvest IP from their employees, and then the employees can be discarded. This situation needs to be fixed so it doesn’t shunt the motivation of employees. Frankly, why would employees have any motivation at all to truly creatively contribute to their company under rules like this? They would not. It’s really easy to write a few words within legislation to fix this and that’s the key to the legislation – to focus on what maximizes motivation for EVERYBODY!

What about the idea of stocks and shareholders? That can remain as is. Frankly, many more people would become legitimate shareholders and it would be a much more thriving and democratic process as there wouldn’t be the 51% which might be just a few (or just one) very moneyed top classers that dictate policies to everyone else.

Isn’t this like communism? Nope. It doesn’t resemble it at all. It’s free market capitalism with healthy limits such that many, many more people have savings and are able to become shareholders in companies. It empowers a lot more people than the former system where only a tiny % of the population decides where money goes, where jobs are created, etc.

Is this like socialism? Nope. You can still strive for a smaller government under this kind of legislation. The government isn’t redistributing funds by taxing more. In fact, there will be a flat tax coupled with this legislation… so we can strive to lower the tax as much as possible to give people more freedom of choice with their own money.

What about luxury items, and large houses? They would remain exactly as is. Remember, the maximum has a FLAT TAX. This means 300K is very similar to what 500K is today, and all kinds of big housing can be purchased with that. Couple this with the fact that housing will no longer be inflated and you can see the type of world that is just around the corner if we simply do it. A LOT more people would have big houses; that’s what would happen.

What about a super-mansion or big castle? Well, an individual can’t have one… but a family can pull their resources and if they want to have a castle, then they can have a castle; sure.

What about Hollywood, celebrities, and stars? That will still be whatever it naturally will be. There will still be talent shows with judges that highlight interesting and talented things that people do. People will simply lose the irrationally overwhelming endocrine system reaction to become “rich stars.” Instead, they will activate their endocrine systems – with the same amazing feelings they previously were educated to think they could only have if they become rich – as they accomplish things throughout their lives; everyone will do this.

Comment: Most fundamentally, this law would involve more people in the decision making processes of society. People would not be completely detached from it and almost everyone would become an investor… REAL investors that matter because small amounts matter. The goal of the investment would not be to get rich, or to get a huge return – because of the maximum earnings law. The goal would become being highly motivated to make great products in order to make a great and amazing society with immaculately healthy cultures all around the world. This is the essence of people power, and you simply have to do it to make it so; you don’t need to wait for someone to give you permission. Just gather together, talk the talk, and make it so. In addition, to fix the 51% problem (if there is a 49% that doesn’t like the decisions), the 49% can form a competing company with the fair intellectual property aspect of this law. This creates, on a very fundamental level, an amazing positive driving force to make the right decisions so people don’t want to spawn off another company.

I'd prefer socialism over corporate fascism anyday, but it's not like we have a say in it. Corporations are the new feudal lords and we're just serfs. Keep giving your money to idiots like Goldberg and Beck and see who gets richer.

See above post.

I'll make a deal with you--I'll read both of these books if you read two books by Al Franken.

OP you are a little confused.

The ideological struggle going on right now is...

Neoconservatism/Neoliberalism VS. Classical Liberalism aka Libertarianism.

The establishment Left and the establishment Right don't agree with each other on the surface, but they are both working toward the same ends...creating debts to the banks.

Libertarians want to actually shrink the size of government so that the banks have less control over the population.

Al Franken writes more than just bad SNL comedy and cover stories for how he "won" his election after 3 recounts with a little help from convicted felons whose votes were thrown out after he was sworn in?

I don't want either. I want what our founders wanted.


As for Beck, I have done well in my life by living and applying the same principles he promotes....so

If you don't like him, that's fine. I wouldn't expect everyone to..