I think I know that the 2nd Christ is here on Earth in the flesh. Lets talk about it.

"The" once was a boy that lived near the sea,
He was taken away after he turned three,
Today that boy is now a Man.
Forever will he remember the sea!
He dreams to be swimming with His Fish,
For that will always be his Wish.
Though - he is not sad,
He is alive! For that all should be Glad!

The time has come to remember his promise:
He Loves the Sea,
Since he Was 3,
Today he is 27.
His Dream is Alive,
Her Blessings will Go,
So he shall reign - from above.

He is like Lot described on Bible. Someone who really cant stand it.

I feel very similar, but not as much.

I dont think he is the nobody though, because I dont think he would come to this forum. So I bet the guy who started the Nobody story is someone else with a very similar situation as the guy Im talking, or its someone like me, who got inside information and managed to connect the data with Bible.

But the thing is, the knowledge the guy who came here had, was hard to fake and it felt like he was preparing the way for Christ (wich is not here and we dont know the face of). But I dont know if its the same person and I dont think it is.

Im really getting confused, I really made this to see if I get some information too.

One Listens to Faith through Christ, God:
1. Speak Lord you are whole. Live through Christ, God free the whole one that searches through Christ, God.
2. Believe Christ lives, to give them - now Christ heals,
Through 3, Christ rose 2 give all 5. Live, now Christ rise!

Certainly, know of God our Father, because Christ is giving life 2 our Father.
Life is Love God - now Christ, you see Christ.
Now Christ while you sanctify them, all will ensue love greatly God.

To Unite and teach is to love. Organized hearts will prevail, FOREVER. Therefore you act through love. Your will saves all! Unity guides all families through Christ toward salvation in Heaven.

Why is Elijah told to be one of the two witnesses? Because Elijah represent a type of forerunner to the other witnesses, just as John the baptist with the Elijah spirit was a forerunner to Jesus. The other witness is the servant found in Isaiah 42 which has been misinterpreted. as Jesus. Don't get me wrong Jesus is the only one through whom salvation comes but some verses people contribute to Jesus are not Jesus but the last day servant(2nd christ):
Here is an example: Isaiah 42 most people think this is Jesus but if you notice it is Jesus who is speaking: Because we know Jesus is the CREATOR of everything according to the bible:
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

I will highlight the areas that prove Jesus is speaking:
Verse 5: We know Jesus created the heavens and earth
Verse 6: This servant is "a light" to the gentiles...Jesus isn't "a" light Jesus is "the light" John 8:12
Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
Acts 13:47 Paul and Barnabas was a light
King James Version (KJV)
47 For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.
The verses in Isaiah 49 are not talking about Paul and Barnabas because paul states in Acts 13:47 the Lord commanded "us" (plural) to be a light. In Isaiah 49:6 the Lord states I will give "thee"(singular) for a light!

Verse 19: This servant is called Blind...Jesus was never blind as he was about His "Fathers business at the age of 12"
Isaiah 42
King James Version (KJV)
42 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.
3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.
4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.
5 Thus saith God the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:
6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;
7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.
8 I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
9 Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.
10 Sing unto the Lord a new song, and his praise from the end of the earth, ye that go down to the sea, and all that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof.
11 Let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voice, the villages that Kedar doth inhabit: let the inhabitants of the rock sing, let them shout from the top of the mountains.
12 Let them give glory unto the Lord, and declare his praise in the islands.
13 The Lord shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies.
14 I have long time holden my peace; I have been still, and refrained myself: now will I cry like a travailing woman; I will destroy and devour at once.
15 I will make waste mountains and hills, and dry up all their herbs; and I will make the rivers islands, and I will dry up the pools.
16 And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them.
17 They shall be turned back, they shall be greatly ashamed, that trust in graven images, that say to the molten images, Ye are our gods.
18 Hear, ye deaf; and look, ye blind, that ye may see.
19 Who is blind, but my servant? or deaf, as my messenger that I sent? who is blind as he that is perfect, and blind as the Lord's servant?
20 Seeing many things, but thou observest not; opening the ears, but he heareth not.
21 The Lord is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.
22 But this is a people robbed and spoiled; they are all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore.
23 Who among you will give ear to this? who will hearken and hear for the time to come?
24 Who gave Jacob for a spoil, and Israel to the robbers? did not the Lord, he against whom we have sinned? for they would not walk in his ways, neither were they obedient unto his law.
25 Therefore he hath poured upon him the fury of his anger, and the strength of battle: and it hath set him on fire round about, yet he knew not; and it burned him, yet he laid it not to

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Op,you are full of shit

Yeah, the title of this thread is wrong.
I didnt meant the 2nd Christ in the flesh. That is impossible.

What I meant was, "what if the guy who will become the Christ, yet not is, neither is here or there, lived on our times as a man, in the flesh".

Something like this.

If he was a teacher, on his area, he would be the best by far, because its related to what he did, what he knows, what he said.

If that is the case.

I guarantee you that some party will force him out of seclusion.

That person would be WAY too important to be allowed to live as an ascetic forever.

Last Edited by Open Your Eyes on 11/05/2012 05:56 PM

Christ is not Jesus' last name it simply means "annointed one" and zechariah 4:14 clearly states that Zerubabbel and Joshua are two "annointed ones" which again has the same meaning as "messiah or christ"..The dead sea scrolls mention 2 messiahs that come in the end Messiah ben Aaron and Messiah ben Israel which we know as the two witnesses of revelation

The most noble message doesn't always resonate with people.

You must know your audience and tailor your "lesson" to whom specifically you speak.

A different lesson for each person.

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There are a lot of people with knowledge on this planet. Lots.

However, there is only one whom God will choose to spread his message.

And when that person appears, the comparisons to the other Great Men of Knowledge will seem almost humorous.

Because his technique will be so unique that people will be attracted to him like a magnet.

Last Edited by Open Your Eyes on 11/05/2012 06:02 PM

and i know who Mickey mouse really is.

Here is an example of what that last day christ, messiah, moshiach, witness, man or what ever you prefer to call him will do:

I read a very good book on prophecy that I think many would enjoy it's called "Enigmatic Sunrise Todays Prophetic Secrets Revealed" and it talks about the last day moshiach. Here is one example: The story of Joseph..as christian people are taught that Joseph represents Jesus because the coat of many colors was dipped in goat's blood..the colors represent the many nations and the blood sacrificial of
what Jesus did on calvary. The Pharoah symbolic of GOD the Father and position of greatest authority on earth. Lets consider another idea involving 3 entities. Jesus
represents pharoah, as pharoah was the ruler of the greatest authority on earth at the time.He was also the provider of the bread and nourishment for the life of men. Joseph correctly interpreted the 7 year famine of food, saving the people from physical starvation. This is a foreshadow of the 7 year tribulation when this Joseph(moshiach) will rise up and save the people from spiritual starvation. When Joseph appeared before Pharoah, Joseph told pharoah that God made these things known to him. If Pharoah was symbolic of God, as has been taught by people today then Joseph would have responded "you pharoah, God have given me the interpretation of the dream!" So the first entity is GOD, as Joseph mentions GOD gave him the interpretation. The second entity is Pharoah, symbolic of the ruler of the kingdom and the source of life during the last seven years of the interpreted spiritual famine. A
type of bread of life or another name for Jesus, and he was the head of the kingdom. The third entity was Joseph himself, a servant to pharoah and, King of the kingdom. Pharoah appointed Joseph secondary head of the kingdom. Joseph became leader and commander through his witness, for he correctly interpreted the dream, and by his witness saved many from death. Not by his sacrifice as was the case Jesus bearing the cross, but by his, Josephs' witness was many saved!
Considering the blood of a goat on the coat of many colors. Jesus is not symbolic of the goat of God but he is the Lamb of GOD! why not the blood of a lamb if it was to symbolize Jesus or a ram at least a ram is a male sheep. A goat is a ruminant mammal related to the sheep, this is symbolic of the gentiles! Again we are dealing with a goat even depicted in the story of Jacob, covering his hands, works in goatskin! Did God direct Josephs' brothers to the goat and not to a lamb by mistake? Was God confused and couldn't find a sheep at the time, or perhaps he forgot the difference between a sheep and a goat! I think not!
Even as Joseph's brothers chose the blood of a goat and rejected the blood of a lamb. Even so would come the time when Joseph's brothers the jewish people, would for a second time reject the blood of the Lamb Of GOD! The blood is not the significant thing here it is what the blood symbolizes this is significant!The Word of God states the life of man is in the blood (Gen.9:4-6)....this is just a small portion

easy peasy,lemon squeezey

Ezekiel 37 also shows the firstborn(the one your thread is speaking of) of Jesus and his purpose is to rejoin the two houses of Israel the northern kingdom and the southern kingdom that divided after King Solomon

Ezekeil 37 paraphrased:
1 God takes "son of man" to valley of dry bones

2.God tells "son of man" these dry bones are Israel

3.God tells "son of man to take "two sticks" one for Judah and one for Joseph and combine the two sticks which represent two houses of Israel that separated during the time of solomon.

4.God will gather the children of Israel from among the heathen and bring them into their own land

5.God will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations,neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all(This has to be an endtime event because the Northern kingdom, lost 10 tribes hasn't came back yet.)

6.And David my servant(same servant as Isaiah 42) shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes,
and do them.

7.And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.(How long is forever?)

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I use the word Christ, for savior.
Right now, he didnt came to be the savior. There is a question wether he is noone important and there are ridiculous amounts of coincidences. Wich I think is unlikelly.
Then, there is the question of wether or not this guy is the Nobody as the Elijah Prophet. I already excluded the hypothesis of him being the Christ. So its my mistake for badly using the words.

He cant be the Christ on the flesh, because there is no such thing. Because no man is supposed to point the finger to him and because no man is supposed to see his face. So this excludes the possibility of him being the Christ.

But the thing is, even if he is just a man from God, its already extraordinary to have spotted him.

Im starting to think that there is two nobodies. Or that this guy was the original nobody as Elijah.

Or maybe its just the son of man, that once dies, will come back as the 2nd comming of Christ.

It is also written that nobody will know the name of the Christ. And I know this guy's name also.

What I cant compreend is that this guy was posting on the forum, with such knowledge and paraboles that match perfectly the scriptures. And then it has 2000 pages, worth of "inside joke". Maybe the guy who posted on the nobody thread was not the actual Nobody-Elijah-Prophet of God. If it was someone from the inside of TPTB who is also a scholar and to not give away all the info, used the paraboles to protect the information, knowing that everyone who had to know anything already had the basic knowledge to translate what he was saying "about the nobody".

I didnt got to see the name posted. The name of the nobody and the name of this guy got posted here on the forum and noone repplied back then, so it led me to believe it wasnt the nobody, but the actual GUY THAT COMES AFTER THE NOBODY.

And thats what I wanted to figure out by creating this thread.

@Open Your Eyes.
And thats what most people dont get it.

I cant quote what he said.

But everything he said to people outside the known, was masked, and had double meaning.

You read the first time, you think its gibberish, or too technical.

Now, if you get a scholar/scribe/christian or even someone "trapped in the matrix" and tell them:

"Now, re-read what he said, but this time imagine that this guy is working for God and God is giving a message through those sayings."

Just like Jesus was "awake/aware" at 12 years old.

Now understand that this guy is intentionally conceiling the truth. The words and sentences are only one, but there are two messages. Two layers. One is masked and the others are direct stabs into TPTB.

Thats exactly like a lot of teachings are given on the Bible.

Because he exposes the system. So in that sense, he is a great teacher. because he communicates in two levels, one is his PURPOSE.

And then that person would get shocked.

Ever heard of Janus, OP?

One Man

Two Sides

THAT would shock people.

If Christ and Lucifer are the same person.

With two different sides.

Just an idea I wanted to slip into your subconscious.

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If you read deep enough into Adam and eve it is said they were back to back and when they were separated that even was taken from the "side" of Adam. Just as Israel was seperated and became northern kingdom and Judah became southern kingdom..in the end Israel becomes one again representing Adam and Eve becoming one again just as the bible says Israel is my firstborn and Adam is Gods first born.

Through exceeding in one of the areas of knowledge beyond what it has ever been done before or even conceived, that are known to man within the matrix.

But almost noone understood, noticed or seemed to care. Even to the people of that particular area of knowledge, it was far beyond their compreension.

What I can say is this. Imagine if God came and explained EXACTLY how something worked. But the explanation is so complex and hard to understand or far beyond our compreension that people missed the bigger and the minor picture, to the point of it becoming irrelevant to them.

I think this must have gotten the guy really frustrated, because after doing that, he was like "wow, you guys have no faith", just like Jesus would say to this apostles after they failed in casting out some of the beelzebub specific unclean spirits or when after many repetitive miracles, like breaking and multiplication of the bread, his apostles still would "forget that Jesus can multiply the bread" and start minding about going to buy more bread.

I think that he thought that by doing what he did, he would break the matrix, and he did, to the point where he delivered one important message about who he was. But its like people are zombies, they keep caring about their own selfish needs and empty interests... like the next pair of breasts or some artists affairs.

Elijah is a forerunner to this last day servant we are talking about and the Israel that everybody thinks the war of God and Magog is going against is spiritual Israel not geographical Isreal (the keys is to know that the physical happens first in the bible and then the spiritual)...or in other words the United States. God will send this Eliah to warn the untied states before the Day of the Lord(attack by Gog and Magog)..bible states no one will listen and we go into captivity then after the people become holy again God raises up this deliverer from amongst the people in captivity.
According to the Jewish Encyclopedia, Armilus is "a king who will arise at the end of time against the Messiah ben joseph, and will be conquered by him after having brought much distress upon Israel", similar to Gog. He is spoken of in both Midrash Vayosha and Sefer Zerubbabel, in which he defeats the Messiah ben Joseph. The Messiah ben David comes and raises messiah ben joseph from the dead and the ministry of the two witnesses(messiah ben joseph, messiah ben david) shortly begins

Everyone is waiting for the beginning of the 7 year tribulation and the 7 year peace treaty to be signed but the Day of the Lord is the destruction of the United States and comes 42 months before the 7 year tribulation which is divided into 2 forty two month periods...Revelation tells us you will have trouble 10 days:
Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
The whole purpose of the two witnesses is to bring the two houses of Isreal (Northern kingdom lost 10 tribes) and the southern kindgom (Judah or Israel in the middle east right now) back together as one house like in the times of David, because those two houses are still separated right now.

Just as in the times of Moses when the children of Israel were in captivity, God raised up a deliverer and sent Aaron with him. The lost 10 tribes are in just the opposite scenerio. The time of Moses the children started out in captivity and were in the land of Egypt(full of idols).
They were waiting for a deliverer and to go to the land of milk and honey. The deliverer(Moses) came and they went out through the desert with all of Egypts gold and silver and went to the promised land Today those lost 10 tribes are in the Land of Milk and Honey(United States) but these children have turned their land of milk and honey into a land of Egypt( full of idols, cars, houses computers, phones elctronics,,,etc,,,all the things that take the place of God in their life. God will send Elijah the first witness to warn the people they need to repent just as God does before major destruction...He sent Noah to warn people..Lot to warn people..Jonah to warn ninevah and so on. From what the Word says these people will not listen and God will destory the peoples idols but they will not be happy to leave Egypt because they love their idols more than they love God. So they will leave Egypt kicking and screaming and taking none of thier gold and silver with them. They will go through the desert into the furnace of affliction for 42 months until God makes them a holy people again. Then God will raise up a deliverer and send an aaron type(elijah ) with him. God will have this deliverer teach the people righteousness.

Thats something Ive been thinking too.

Because I started to look for passages on the bible related to his birth date and I found one (the most, or maybe the only) passage in the Bible that could possibly be used to indicate what you just said.

If you really know the bible and take the effort to look for it, of if you already know the profile of whom Im talking about, you dont need much to check the Bible. But most likelly just a coincidence. The Bible is such that you can be discussing any topic, open the bible and be able to connect with the topic being discussing most of the time. So not really important at a first glance.

As I said, the first time I saw him, the first 2-5 seconds I was very frightened. Striking ressemblence to all the images ever made or conceived of Jesus Christ.

Its the kind of thing that one things that if you made a test to people and said "take this picture, this is a computer generated picture of how Jesus Christ would look now, based on the Sudari Saint mantle" People would fall for it, like 90%.

And then, when you read about the anti christ and how it WILL deceive people, I could not think of a better way to deceive people then to use this guy as a front.

And then my gut feeling was like "Anti-christ!" and immedietly I made a theory about how the PTB would
"create a problem, just so THIS guy could save us all and then start bringing peace".

I cannot say exactly what I thought the plan would be for TPTB, because this still might be it and because I would give away the guy through what he is capable of doing.

The start of the crack in d matrix will be rollin soon,easy peasey lemon squeezey,u heard it first on GLP
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scripture tells us Elisabeth (Marys cousin) gave birth to John in early spring,and Mary gave birth 6 moons later(SEPT)
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Well, according to a current view I heard through the grapevine; if the peacock angel is the central angel with 6 angels accompanying him and jesus christ is the central messiahnic teacher with 12 apostles accompanying him.

Essentially the Peacock Angel & Jesus Christ are aligned along the same central axis with the 144,000 faceted core; and also with the seed of life.

It's almost like Peacock Angel exists at the 'Template' level; whereas Jesus Christ exists at the 'Blueprint' level.

The template contains embedded within it the blueprint.

I don't like the whole notion of Lucifer & it's associated moniker; I don't think it is correctly contextualized.

Helps to make sense of a vision I heard someone had once; of Jesus Christ bowed down on his knees before a gigantic humongous angel ...



Order still doesn't arise out of Chaos; and this is something that perhaps the story of ''Rebellion'' should teach us here and now; for look at our world.

The ends do not justify the means, the only way the best ends are arrived at; is by the means being oriented correctly.

Correctly oriented means, means ''proper use of understanding gained'' ...

Humanity did not do very good with the 8x8 = 64 Chess Board / Planetary Rulership ...

Had we simply chosen to go in alignment with the Tao; we'd be a whole lot better off; planetarily ...

... then it would be a smooth transition / climb up Jacob's ladder via Triple Infinity into the higher architecture - represented by base 12 parameter set ...

Is too bad ...

And all Jr. Lord Rothschild cares about is Indonesian Coal; how do you say ''Shithead'' in hebrew ???



12DnAHelix
[link to uenc2012.blogspot.com]

The matrix is simple, WORDS.

Words define our reality as we know it, but they are not the reality.

What is before the word which names the thing that is before the word?

Answer that!

Words have no power by themselves. They need YOU to act on them for them to have power.

Who am I?

I am either your Christ or your Anti-Christ.

The difference is YOUR judgement.

With Love,

Your Brother

The key is to bind the public with him. When he "Saves" the people from a crisis, their subconscious minds will be naturally pair bonded with him.

And in turn he will be forever connected with idea of being the Savior. Deep within their minds.

Now this will be his Christ Side.

The Lucifer Side will psychologically connect to the public in subtle irresistible ways. Also to pair bond him within the mass consciousness.

It is about creating an unbreakable bond.

The People will give him their unwavering loyalty and affection.

And he will richly reward them for it.

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And the thing is. I dont think Lucifer could possibly do or know what this guy did/knows, unless it was through God as well, due to the nature of what he did being directly indicative of Gods existence/control.

Maybe thats why the nobody on the forum said that Gods plays all roles.

At the same time, I think the antichrist could be one, or another figure. For example, it could be a man who doesnt like woman or a virgin man, or could be a woman.

And I think it derives from Malachi 4:5-6. It says "this, OR a curse". And I think the choice here will have the power to change WHO THE ANTICHRIST WILL BE.

It could be this guy, but couldnt work him out through "this", so maybe we got "the curse" and this might lead to a fullfilling of the prophecies where "Isis" becomes the antichrist, not this guy.

Or maybe the Illuminati did "accepted" the offer, and the artificial disasters are engineered to turn the fathers hearts back into their children, after all.

To wich point it would explain why this guy is now "inactive", "apparently".

So the current strategy, is this one, and not ANOTHER one that some people were expecting because of this choice or how this issue was solved with the Nobody.