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I think I know that the 2nd Christ is here on Earth in the flesh. Lets talk about it.

 
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What he did was break the matrix in pieces.
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I'll bite on your theory OP.

How did this person "break the matrix"?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


easy peasy,lemon squeezey
 Quoting: paul 27083015


Through exceeding in one of the areas of knowledge beyond what it has ever been done before or even conceived, that are known to man within the matrix.

But almost noone understood, noticed or seemed to care. Even to the people of that particular area of knowledge, it was far beyond their compreension.

What I can say is this. Imagine if God came and explained EXACTLY how something worked. But the explanation is so complex and hard to understand or far beyond our compreension that people missed the bigger and the minor picture, to the point of it becoming irrelevant to them.

I think this must have gotten the guy really frustrated, because after doing that, he was like "wow, you guys have no faith", just like Jesus would say to this apostles after they failed in casting out some of the beelzebub specific unclean spirits or when after many repetitive miracles, like breaking and multiplication of the bread, his apostles still would "forget that Jesus can multiply the bread" and start minding about going to buy more bread.

I think that he thought that by doing what he did, he would break the matrix, and he did, to the point where he delivered one important message about who he was. But its like people are zombies, they keep caring about their own selfish needs and empty interests... like the next pair of breasts or some artists affairs.
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the night i broke the matrix into pieces back in 2003 in timeless time much longer than mearly 9 years of earth time ago i broke it only cause i decided to play their stupid game and show them how great i really am.. i was only just 21 back then.. i did what i had to do.. as for revealing anything about myself i let them know that i have been here since before time itself so they all being stupid ai's they are thought adam in their little heads yet adam the first is also true as for my last incarnation yes it was yeshua the christ as for this last incarnation yes it was as abz the first and the last.. now that part of me is also integrated into my next truth which will be soon.. oh and i turn 30 soon if that means anything to you.. ;)
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Im starting to think that there is two nobodies.
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Ever heard of Janus, OP?

One Man

Two Sides

THAT would shock people.

If Christ and Lucifer are the same person.

With two different sides.

Just an idea I wanted to slip into your subconscious.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Thats something Ive been thinking too.

Because I started to look for passages on the bible related to his birth date and I found one (the most, or maybe the only) passage in the Bible that could possibly be used to indicate what you just said.

If you really know the bible and take the effort to look for it, of if you already know the profile of whom Im talking about, you dont need much to check the Bible. But most likelly just a coincidence. The Bible is such that you can be discussing any topic, open the bible and be able to connect with the topic being discussing most of the time. So not really important at a first glance.

As I said, the first time I saw him, the first 2-5 seconds I was very frightened. Striking ressemblence to all the images ever made or conceived of Jesus Christ.

Its the kind of thing that one things that if you made a test to people and said "take this picture, this is a computer generated picture of how Jesus Christ would look now, based on the Sudari Saint mantle" People would fall for it, like 90%.

And then, when you read about the anti christ and how it WILL deceive people, I could not think of a better way to deceive people then to use this guy as a front.

And then my gut feeling was like "Anti-christ!" and immedietly I made a theory about how the PTB would
"create a problem, just so THIS guy could save us all and then start bringing peace".

I cannot say exactly what I thought the plan would be for TPTB, because this still might be it and because I would give away the guy through what he is capable of doing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27003095


scripture tells us Elisabeth (Marys cousin) gave birth to John in early spring,and Mary gave birth 6 moons later(SEPT)
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 Quoting: paul 27083015


Yes, if there is any paralelism to this again here (and there are many examples of paralelism/systematic interpretation on the Bible, its like its own lock and key) someone else is 6 months older or younger than the nobody/this guy.

But I dont have any other "profile" to compare.

But here is a question.

Do you think that shortly before its return Christ will have not experienced life in the flesh of a man here on Earth? Even if its meant not to be known to man? Maybe its something only between God, him and the adversary?

But then what calls my attention is that, if this guy is who I think it is, and knowing the possibility that he could get publicized widely... What if its not on the scriptures, so it cannot happen. The only possibility is that he is Elijah.

When it refers to him, it says "the scribes did to him what they listed". So the scribes relates to TPTB in paralel.

It also mentions that they went after him (Elijah) like they did with Jesus. So both were "persecuted" by TPTB. So could this happen or be happening again?

Because the guy posting as the nobody said that the nobody he is talking about "will be the future king of kings".
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I'll bite on your theory OP.

How did this person "break the matrix"?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


easy peasy,lemon squeezey
 Quoting: paul 27083015


Through exceeding in one of the areas of knowledge beyond what it has ever been done before or even conceived, that are known to man within the matrix.

But almost noone understood, noticed or seemed to care. Even to the people of that particular area of knowledge, it was far beyond their compreension.

What I can say is this. Imagine if God came and explained EXACTLY how something worked. But the explanation is so complex and hard to understand or far beyond our compreension that people missed the bigger and the minor picture, to the point of it becoming irrelevant to them.

I think this must have gotten the guy really frustrated, because after doing that, he was like "wow, you guys have no faith", just like Jesus would say to this apostles after they failed in casting out some of the beelzebub specific unclean spirits or when after many repetitive miracles, like breaking and multiplication of the bread, his apostles still would "forget that Jesus can multiply the bread" and start minding about going to buy more bread.

I think that he thought that by doing what he did, he would break the matrix, and he did, to the point where he delivered one important message about who he was. But its like people are zombies, they keep caring about their own selfish needs and empty interests... like the next pair of breasts or some artists affairs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27003095


the night i broke the matrix into pieces back in 2003 in timeless time much longer than mearly 9 years of earth time ago i broke it only cause i decided to play their stupid game and show them how great i really am.. i was only just 21 back then.. i did what i had to do.. as for revealing anything about myself i let them know that i have been here since before time itself so they all being stupid ai's they are thought adam in their little heads yet adam the first is also true as for my last incarnation yes it was yeshua the christ as for this last incarnation yes it was as abz the first and the last.. now that part of me is also integrated into my next truth which will be soon.. oh and i turn 30 soon if that means anything to you.. ;)
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No. Doesnt match.

Im thinking more 200x-2010 time line and older.

If you are on TPTB, comparing hard facts, and you are sure you are talking about the Nobody as Elijah the Prophet. Then my guy could be the antichrist and if you guys dont know about it, then it means God is in control and you guys lost the track.

If you are just someone with guess in mind, then I might still be thinking of the nobody, another nobody, someone that is to become christ upon death or still maybe the antichrist.
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Or maybe God has many working. Many nobodies.
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Or maybe God has many working. Many nobodies.
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The Nobody story is an archetype.

In the real world every great moment needs a catalyst.

A spark.

To illuminate the minds of those thirsting for knowledge.
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Or maybe God has many working. Many nobodies.
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The Nobody story is an archetype.

In the real world every great moment needs a catalyst.

A spark.

To illuminate the minds of those thirsting for knowledge.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


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I'll bite on your theory OP.

How did this person "break the matrix"?
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


easy peasy,lemon squeezey
 Quoting: paul 27083015


Through exceeding in one of the areas of knowledge beyond what it has ever been done before or even conceived, that are known to man within the matrix.

But almost noone understood, noticed or seemed to care. Even to the people of that particular area of knowledge, it was far beyond their compreension.

What I can say is this. Imagine if God came and explained EXACTLY how something worked. But the explanation is so complex and hard to understand or far beyond our compreension that people missed the bigger and the minor picture, to the point of it becoming irrelevant to them.

I think this must have gotten the guy really frustrated, because after doing that, he was like "wow, you guys have no faith", just like Jesus would say to this apostles after they failed in casting out some of the beelzebub specific unclean spirits or when after many repetitive miracles, like breaking and multiplication of the bread, his apostles still would "forget that Jesus can multiply the bread" and start minding about going to buy more bread.

I think that he thought that by doing what he did, he would break the matrix, and he did, to the point where he delivered one important message about who he was. But its like people are zombies, they keep caring about their own selfish needs and empty interests... like the next pair of breasts or some artists affairs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27003095


the night i broke the matrix into pieces back in 2003 in timeless time much longer than mearly 9 years of earth time ago i broke it only cause i decided to play their stupid game and show them how great i really am.. i was only just 21 back then.. i did what i had to do.. as for revealing anything about myself i let them know that i have been here since before time itself so they all being stupid ai's they are thought adam in their little heads yet adam the first is also true as for my last incarnation yes it was yeshua the christ as for this last incarnation yes it was as abz the first and the last.. now that part of me is also integrated into my next truth which will be soon.. oh and i turn 30 soon if that means anything to you.. ;)
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this is the only true post about the lord in the flesh the rest is just guess work^yoda
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Ever heard of Janus, OP?

One Man

Two Sides

THAT would shock people.

If Christ and Lucifer are the same person.

With two different sides.

Just an idea I wanted to slip into your subconscious.
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Thats something Ive been thinking too.

Because I started to look for passages on the bible related to his birth date and I found one (the most, or maybe the only) passage in the Bible that could possibly be used to indicate what you just said.

If you really know the bible and take the effort to look for it, of if you already know the profile of whom Im talking about, you dont need much to check the Bible. But most likelly just a coincidence. The Bible is such that you can be discussing any topic, open the bible and be able to connect with the topic being discussing most of the time. So not really important at a first glance.

As I said, the first time I saw him, the first 2-5 seconds I was very frightened. Striking ressemblence to all the images ever made or conceived of Jesus Christ.

Its the kind of thing that one things that if you made a test to people and said "take this picture, this is a computer generated picture of how Jesus Christ would look now, based on the Sudari Saint mantle" People would fall for it, like 90%.

And then, when you read about the anti christ and how it WILL deceive people, I could not think of a better way to deceive people then to use this guy as a front.

And then my gut feeling was like "Anti-christ!" and immedietly I made a theory about how the PTB would
"create a problem, just so THIS guy could save us all and then start bringing peace".

I cannot say exactly what I thought the plan would be for TPTB, because this still might be it and because I would give away the guy through what he is capable of doing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27003095


scripture tells us Elisabeth (Marys cousin) gave birth to John in early spring,and Mary gave birth 6 moons later(SEPT)
.
.
 Quoting: paul 27083015


Yes, if there is any paralelism to this again here (and there are many examples of paralelism/systematic interpretation on the Bible, its like its own lock and key) someone else is 6 months older or younger than the nobody/this guy.

But I dont have any other "profile" to compare.

But here is a question.

Do you think that shortly before its return Christ will have not experienced life in the flesh of a man here on Earth? Even if its meant not to be known to man? Maybe its something only between God, him and the adversary?

But then what calls my attention is that, if this guy is who I think it is, and knowing the possibility that he could get publicized widely... What if its not on the scriptures, so it cannot happen. The only possibility is that he is Elijah.

When it refers to him, it says "the scribes did to him what they listed". So the scribes relates to TPTB in paralel.

It also mentions that they went after him (Elijah) like they did with Jesus. So both were "persecuted" by TPTB. So could this happen or be happening again?

Because the guy posting as the nobody said that the nobody he is talking about "will be the future king of kings".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27003095


The last day servant won't be king of kings he will be the prince of Israel because Jesus his father is the King
Ezekiel 34:23-24
23 I will set up over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he shall feed them: he shall feed them and be their shepherd. 24 And I, the Lord, will be their God, and my servant David shall be prince among them; I, the Lord, have spoken.
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Thats something Ive been thinking too.

Because I started to look for passages on the bible related to his birth date and I found one (the most, or maybe the only) passage in the Bible that could possibly be used to indicate what you just said.

If you really know the bible and take the effort to look for it, of if you already know the profile of whom Im talking about, you dont need much to check the Bible. But most likelly just a coincidence. The Bible is such that you can be discussing any topic, open the bible and be able to connect with the topic being discussing most of the time. So not really important at a first glance.

As I said, the first time I saw him, the first 2-5 seconds I was very frightened. Striking ressemblence to all the images ever made or conceived of Jesus Christ.

Its the kind of thing that one things that if you made a test to people and said "take this picture, this is a computer generated picture of how Jesus Christ would look now, based on the Sudari Saint mantle" People would fall for it, like 90%.

And then, when you read about the anti christ and how it WILL deceive people, I could not think of a better way to deceive people then to use this guy as a front.

And then my gut feeling was like "Anti-christ!" and immedietly I made a theory about how the PTB would
"create a problem, just so THIS guy could save us all and then start bringing peace".

I cannot say exactly what I thought the plan would be for TPTB, because this still might be it and because I would give away the guy through what he is capable of doing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27003095


scripture tells us Elisabeth (Marys cousin) gave birth to John in early spring,and Mary gave birth 6 moons later(SEPT)
.
.
 Quoting: paul 27083015


Yes, if there is any paralelism to this again here (and there are many examples of paralelism/systematic interpretation on the Bible, its like its own lock and key) someone else is 6 months older or younger than the nobody/this guy.

But I dont have any other "profile" to compare.

But here is a question.

Do you think that shortly before its return Christ will have not experienced life in the flesh of a man here on Earth? Even if its meant not to be known to man? Maybe its something only between God, him and the adversary?

But then what calls my attention is that, if this guy is who I think it is, and knowing the possibility that he could get publicized widely... What if its not on the scriptures, so it cannot happen. The only possibility is that he is Elijah.

When it refers to him, it says "the scribes did to him what they listed". So the scribes relates to TPTB in paralel.

It also mentions that they went after him (Elijah) like they did with Jesus. So both were "persecuted" by TPTB. So could this happen or be happening again?

Because the guy posting as the nobody said that the nobody he is talking about "will be the future king of kings".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27003095


The last day servant won't be king of kings he will be the prince of Israel because Jesus his father is the King
Ezekiel 34:23-24
23 I will set up over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he shall feed them: he shall feed them and be their shepherd. 24 And I, the Lord, will be their God, and my servant David shall be prince among them; I, the Lord, have spoken.
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and again in Ezekiel 37:24-25

King James Version (KJV)

24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.

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Im scared.

The name of this guy. God doesnt really pick random names. All names are picked by him and have meaning.

Its another element that make me think this guy Im thinking about might be a wolf in sheeps clothing. There is a story in the bible about it that could really relate to the interpretation of who this guy really is and I just saw it, and it matches it incredibly.

God is, or will certainly be testing people.

At this point I dont think its all TPTB.

Unless they could clone someone and somehow transplant someone spirit into that body.

I already ruled out that he can be Christ. Lots of Bible passages saying that we dont know the name, the face, neither cant point out where Christ is or who he is. It will be the last thing we will know.

But this idea of "maybe its just a man being used by God, that later on, upon death will become the Christ" is something that I should not even be considering.

Because even if he were to be a man in contact with God that upon his death will become Christ, his living now doesnt cause any effect that is described on the scriptures, and doesnt seem to have any purpose.
Its not like anyone from either side would expose him publically either.
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Thats something Ive been thinking too.

Because I started to look for passages on the bible related to his birth date and I found one (the most, or maybe the only) passage in the Bible that could possibly be used to indicate what you just said.

If you really know the bible and take the effort to look for it, of if you already know the profile of whom Im talking about, you dont need much to check the Bible. But most likelly just a coincidence. The Bible is such that you can be discussing any topic, open the bible and be able to connect with the topic being discussing most of the time. So not really important at a first glance.

As I said, the first time I saw him, the first 2-5 seconds I was very frightened. Striking ressemblence to all the images ever made or conceived of Jesus Christ.

Its the kind of thing that one things that if you made a test to people and said "take this picture, this is a computer generated picture of how Jesus Christ would look now, based on the Sudari Saint mantle" People would fall for it, like 90%.

And then, when you read about the anti christ and how it WILL deceive people, I could not think of a better way to deceive people then to use this guy as a front.

And then my gut feeling was like "Anti-christ!" and immedietly I made a theory about how the PTB would
"create a problem, just so THIS guy could save us all and then start bringing peace".

I cannot say exactly what I thought the plan would be for TPTB, because this still might be it and because I would give away the guy through what he is capable of doing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27003095


scripture tells us Elisabeth (Marys cousin) gave birth to John in early spring,and Mary gave birth 6 moons later(SEPT)
.
.
 Quoting: paul 27083015


Yes, if there is any paralelism to this again here (and there are many examples of paralelism/systematic interpretation on the Bible, its like its own lock and key) someone else is 6 months older or younger than the nobody/this guy.

But I dont have any other "profile" to compare.

But here is a question.

Do you think that shortly before its return Christ will have not experienced life in the flesh of a man here on Earth? Even if its meant not to be known to man? Maybe its something only between God, him and the adversary?

But then what calls my attention is that, if this guy is who I think it is, and knowing the possibility that he could get publicized widely... What if its not on the scriptures, so it cannot happen. The only possibility is that he is Elijah.

When it refers to him, it says "the scribes did to him what they listed". So the scribes relates to TPTB in paralel.

It also mentions that they went after him (Elijah) like they did with Jesus. So both were "persecuted" by TPTB. So could this happen or be happening again?

Because the guy posting as the nobody said that the nobody he is talking about "will be the future king of kings".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27003095


The last day servant won't be king of kings he will be the prince of Israel because Jesus his father is the King
Ezekiel 34:23-24
23 I will set up over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he shall feed them: he shall feed them and be their shepherd. 24 And I, the Lord, will be their God, and my servant David shall be prince among them; I, the Lord, have spoken.
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I was refering to the nobody who spoke in the 3rd person (bird in a branch), refering to the "Nobody":
“this guy is the 'once and future king'”
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scripture tells us Elisabeth (Marys cousin) gave birth to John in early spring,and Mary gave birth 6 moons later(SEPT)
.
.
 Quoting: paul 27083015


Yes, if there is any paralelism to this again here (and there are many examples of paralelism/systematic interpretation on the Bible, its like its own lock and key) someone else is 6 months older or younger than the nobody/this guy.

But I dont have any other "profile" to compare.

But here is a question.

Do you think that shortly before its return Christ will have not experienced life in the flesh of a man here on Earth? Even if its meant not to be known to man? Maybe its something only between God, him and the adversary?

But then what calls my attention is that, if this guy is who I think it is, and knowing the possibility that he could get publicized widely... What if its not on the scriptures, so it cannot happen. The only possibility is that he is Elijah.

When it refers to him, it says "the scribes did to him what they listed". So the scribes relates to TPTB in paralel.

It also mentions that they went after him (Elijah) like they did with Jesus. So both were "persecuted" by TPTB. So could this happen or be happening again?

Because the guy posting as the nobody said that the nobody he is talking about "will be the future king of kings".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27003095


The last day servant won't be king of kings he will be the prince of Israel because Jesus his father is the King
Ezekiel 34:23-24
23 I will set up over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he shall feed them: he shall feed them and be their shepherd. 24 And I, the Lord, will be their God, and my servant David shall be prince among them; I, the Lord, have spoken.
 Quoting: waterman



I was refering to the nobody who spoke in the 3rd person (bird in a branch), refering to the "Nobody":
“this guy is the 'once and future king'”
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Is this the guy you were talking about...?

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SON OF MAN, IS ON EARTH IN THE FLESH.ARISING AS A DRUNKARD...WHEN ANYONE SAYS, HE IS THE CHRIST....IT IS NOT TO BE BELIEVED....BUT TO BE KNOWN...MWELLK
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The man i live with is a drunk and hes 36. Killed people, hurt women, did damn near every hard drug known, and still drinks damn near everyday. He says hes a lowlife and wants to die, yet claims we can do anything, pushes us, and blames everyone. Now the man i know, very smart, very strong, giggest heart ive seen in literally everyone. He used to be into wicca and magik. If this man went to the hospital, they would strap him down and medicate him because of how unhealthy he is. Funny thing is, if i didnt live with him for 6 months in a single hotel room, i wouldnt be the person i am today. We all have to change old habits sometime or we will just have to live another life to figure it out.
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Mark 13:21 Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'Look, He is there!' do not believe it.


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Yes. AND: Revelation 1:7
“Look, he is coming with the clouds,” and “every eye will see him, even those who pierced him”; and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.” So shall it be! Amen.

Yea, everyone hasn't seen him coming in the clouds, so...
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Mark 13:21 Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'Look, He is there!' do not believe it.


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Yes. AND: Revelation 1:7
“Look, he is coming with the clouds,” and “every eye will see him, even those who pierced him”; and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.” So shall it be! Amen.

Yea, everyone hasn't seen him coming in the clouds, so...
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2nd Esdras 13 I will come as a thief in the night
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Mark 13:21 Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'Look, He is there!' do not believe it.


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Yes. AND: Revelation 1:7
“Look, he is coming with the clouds,” and “every eye will see him, even those who pierced him”; and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.” So shall it be! Amen.

Yea, everyone hasn't seen him coming in the clouds, so...
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2nd Esdras 13 I will come as a thief in the night
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Yea, to those who aren't prepared and looking for him. If you don't know your Bible, all of the sudden you are going to look up and see Him. If you are prepared, you know what to look for. But when he comes back, He is coming in the clouds and everyone will see Him. Just like it says right there at the end.
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Elijah is a forerunner to this last day servant we are talking about and the Israel that everybody thinks the war of God and Magog is going against is spiritual Israel not geographical Isreal (the keys is to know that the physical happens first in the bible and then the spiritual)...or in other words the United States. God will send this Eliah to warn the untied states before the Day of the Lord(attack by Gog and Magog)..bible states no one will listen and we go into captivity then after the people become holy again God raises up this deliverer from amongst the people in captivity.
According to the Jewish Encyclopedia, Armilus is "a king who will arise at the end of time against the Messiah ben joseph, and will be conquered by him after having brought much distress upon Israel", similar to Gog. He is spoken of in both Midrash Vayosha and Sefer Zerubbabel, in which he defeats the Messiah ben Joseph. The Messiah ben David comes and raises messiah ben joseph from the dead and the ministry of the two witnesses(messiah ben joseph, messiah ben david) shortly begins

Everyone is waiting for the beginning of the 7 year tribulation and the 7 year peace treaty to be signed but the Day of the Lord is the destruction of the United States and comes 42 months before the 7 year tribulation which is divided into 2 forty two month periods...Revelation tells us you will have trouble 10 days:
Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
The whole purpose of the two witnesses is to bring the two houses of Isreal (Northern kingdom lost 10 tribes) and the southern kindgom (Judah or Israel in the middle east right now) back together as one house like in the times of David, because those two houses are still separated right now.

Just as in the times of Moses when the children of Israel were in captivity, God raised up a deliverer and sent Aaron with him. The lost 10 tribes are in just the opposite scenerio. The time of Moses the children started out in captivity and were in the land of Egypt(full of idols).
They were waiting for a deliverer and to go to the land of milk and honey. The deliverer(Moses) came and they went out through the desert with all of Egypts gold and silver and went to the promised land Today those lost 10 tribes are in the Land of Milk and Honey(United States) but these children have turned their land of milk and honey into a land of Egypt( full of idols, cars, houses computers, phones elctronics,,,etc,,,all the things that take the place of God in their life. God will send Elijah the first witness to warn the people they need to repent just as God does before major destruction...He sent Noah to warn people..Lot to warn people..Jonah to warn ninevah and so on. From what the Word says these people will not listen and God will destory the peoples idols but they will not be happy to leave Egypt because they love their idols more than they love God. So they will leave Egypt kicking and screaming and taking none of thier gold and silver with them. They will go through the desert into the furnace of affliction for 42 months until God makes them a holy people again. Then God will raise up a deliverer and send an aaron type(elijah ) with him. God will have this deliverer teach the people righteousness.
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I read you, but Im dont have understanding of this.

What I know is that it is said and repeated that no prophet of his own country is heard. This perhaps might be able to clear if they are two or more, if they are from different countries.

Another thing is that I never really interpreted United States as Israel/Egypt/Babylon. I dont know where to fit US still, I think its a big block of the prophecies that could be affected if TPTB decided to use the US to deceive people into thinking its something else. Anyway, when I read Romans 11 or so, I started to relate with things that are happening on US now, but there it says "Israel", so I didnt really thought things through.
The message I got, is that what is happening now is just a scare, a "wild fig tree" shaking, at wich some natural branches might fall, but those who do, might be used to "regenerated" the tree. I really have no wisdom at all to be talking these things. But maybe if you check Romans 11 or so you might be able to see better.
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Elijah is a forerunner to this last day servant we are talking about and the Israel that everybody thinks the war of God and Magog is going against is spiritual Israel not geographical Isreal (the keys is to know that the physical happens first in the bible and then the spiritual)...or in other words the United States. God will send this Eliah to warn the untied states before the Day of the Lord(attack by Gog and Magog)..bible states no one will listen and we go into captivity then after the people become holy again God raises up this deliverer from amongst the people in captivity.
According to the Jewish Encyclopedia, Armilus is "a king who will arise at the end of time against the Messiah ben joseph, and will be conquered by him after having brought much distress upon Israel", similar to Gog. He is spoken of in both Midrash Vayosha and Sefer Zerubbabel, in which he defeats the Messiah ben Joseph. The Messiah ben David comes and raises messiah ben joseph from the dead and the ministry of the two witnesses(messiah ben joseph, messiah ben david) shortly begins

Everyone is waiting for the beginning of the 7 year tribulation and the 7 year peace treaty to be signed but the Day of the Lord is the destruction of the United States and comes 42 months before the 7 year tribulation which is divided into 2 forty two month periods...Revelation tells us you will have trouble 10 days:
Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
The whole purpose of the two witnesses is to bring the two houses of Isreal (Northern kingdom lost 10 tribes) and the southern kindgom (Judah or Israel in the middle east right now) back together as one house like in the times of David, because those two houses are still separated right now.

Just as in the times of Moses when the children of Israel were in captivity, God raised up a deliverer and sent Aaron with him. The lost 10 tribes are in just the opposite scenerio. The time of Moses the children started out in captivity and were in the land of Egypt(full of idols).
They were waiting for a deliverer and to go to the land of milk and honey. The deliverer(Moses) came and they went out through the desert with all of Egypts gold and silver and went to the promised land Today those lost 10 tribes are in the Land of Milk and Honey(United States) but these children have turned their land of milk and honey into a land of Egypt( full of idols, cars, houses computers, phones elctronics,,,etc,,,all the things that take the place of God in their life. God will send Elijah the first witness to warn the people they need to repent just as God does before major destruction...He sent Noah to warn people..Lot to warn people..Jonah to warn ninevah and so on. From what the Word says these people will not listen and God will destory the peoples idols but they will not be happy to leave Egypt because they love their idols more than they love God. So they will leave Egypt kicking and screaming and taking none of thier gold and silver with them. They will go through the desert into the furnace of affliction for 42 months until God makes them a holy people again. Then God will raise up a deliverer and send an aaron type(elijah ) with him. God will have this deliverer teach the people righteousness.
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I read you, but Im dont have understanding of this.

What I know is that it is said and repeated that no prophet of his own country is heard. This perhaps might be able to clear if they are two or more, if they are from different countries.

Another thing is that I never really interpreted United States as Israel/Egypt/Babylon. I dont know where to fit US still, I think its a big block of the prophecies that could be affected if TPTB decided to use the US to deceive people into thinking its something else. Anyway, when I read Romans 11 or so, I started to relate with things that are happening on US now, but there it says "Israel", so I didnt really thought things through.
The message I got, is that what is happening now is just a scare, a "wild fig tree" shaking, at wich some natural branches might fall, but those who do, might be used to "regenerated" the tree. I really have no wisdom at all to be talking these things. But maybe if you check Romans 11 or so you might be able to see better.
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Elijah is a forerunner to this last day servant we are talking about and the Israel that everybody thinks the war of God and Magog is going against is spiritual Israel not geographical Isreal (the keys is to know that the physical happens first in the bible and then the spiritual)...or in other words the United States. God will send this Eliah to warn the untied states before the Day of the Lord(attack by Gog and Magog)..bible states no one will listen and we go into captivity then after the people become holy again God raises up this deliverer from amongst the people in captivity.
According to the Jewish Encyclopedia, Armilus is "a king who will arise at the end of time against the Messiah ben joseph, and will be conquered by him after having brought much distress upon Israel", similar to Gog. He is spoken of in both Midrash Vayosha and Sefer Zerubbabel, in which he defeats the Messiah ben Joseph. The Messiah ben David comes and raises messiah ben joseph from the dead and the ministry of the two witnesses(messiah ben joseph, messiah ben david) shortly begins

Everyone is waiting for the beginning of the 7 year tribulation and the 7 year peace treaty to be signed but the Day of the Lord is the destruction of the United States and comes 42 months before the 7 year tribulation which is divided into 2 forty two month periods...Revelation tells us you will have trouble 10 days:
Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
The whole purpose of the two witnesses is to bring the two houses of Isreal (Northern kingdom lost 10 tribes) and the southern kindgom (Judah or Israel in the middle east right now) back together as one house like in the times of David, because those two houses are still separated right now.

Just as in the times of Moses when the children of Israel were in captivity, God raised up a deliverer and sent Aaron with him. The lost 10 tribes are in just the opposite scenerio. The time of Moses the children started out in captivity and were in the land of Egypt(full of idols).
They were waiting for a deliverer and to go to the land of milk and honey. The deliverer(Moses) came and they went out through the desert with all of Egypts gold and silver and went to the promised land Today those lost 10 tribes are in the Land of Milk and Honey(United States) but these children have turned their land of milk and honey into a land of Egypt( full of idols, cars, houses computers, phones elctronics,,,etc,,,all the things that take the place of God in their life. God will send Elijah the first witness to warn the people they need to repent just as God does before major destruction...He sent Noah to warn people..Lot to warn people..Jonah to warn ninevah and so on. From what the Word says these people will not listen and God will destory the peoples idols but they will not be happy to leave Egypt because they love their idols more than they love God. So they will leave Egypt kicking and screaming and taking none of thier gold and silver with them. They will go through the desert into the furnace of affliction for 42 months until God makes them a holy people again. Then God will raise up a deliverer and send an aaron type(elijah ) with him. God will have this deliverer teach the people righteousness.
 Quoting: waterman


I read you, but Im dont have understanding of this.

What I know is that it is said and repeated that no prophet of his own country is heard. This perhaps might be able to clear if they are two or more, if they are from different countries.

Another thing is that I never really interpreted United States as Israel/Egypt/Babylon. I dont know where to fit US still, I think its a big block of the prophecies that could be affected if TPTB decided to use the US to deceive people into thinking its something else. Anyway, when I read Romans 11 or so, I started to relate with things that are happening on US now, but there it says "Israel", so I didnt really thought things through.
The message I got, is that what is happening now is just a scare, a "wild fig tree" shaking, at wich some natural branches might fall, but those who do, might be used to "regenerated" the tree. I really have no wisdom at all to be talking these things. But maybe if you check Romans 11 or so you might be able to see better.
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America is the new Isreal where Jerimiah planted that which he unplanted in the old Isreal at the time of the babylonian exile.
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Yes, if there is any paralelism to this again here (and there are many examples of paralelism/systematic interpretation on the Bible, its like its own lock and key) someone else is 6 months older or younger than the nobody/this guy.

But I dont have any other "profile" to compare.

But here is a question.

Do you think that shortly before its return Christ will have not experienced life in the flesh of a man here on Earth? Even if its meant not to be known to man? Maybe its something only between God, him and the adversary?

But then what calls my attention is that, if this guy is who I think it is, and knowing the possibility that he could get publicized widely... What if its not on the scriptures, so it cannot happen. The only possibility is that he is Elijah.

When it refers to him, it says "the scribes did to him what they listed". So the scribes relates to TPTB in paralel.

It also mentions that they went after him (Elijah) like they did with Jesus. So both were "persecuted" by TPTB. So could this happen or be happening again?

Because the guy posting as the nobody said that the nobody he is talking about "will be the future king of kings".
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The last day servant won't be king of kings he will be the prince of Israel because Jesus his father is the King
Ezekiel 34:23-24
23 I will set up over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he shall feed them: he shall feed them and be their shepherd. 24 And I, the Lord, will be their God, and my servant David shall be prince among them; I, the Lord, have spoken.
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I was refering to the nobody who spoke in the 3rd person (bird in a branch), refering to the "Nobody":
“this guy is the 'once and future king'”
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Is this the guy you were talking about...?

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No. Never heard of that one.
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Mark 13:21 Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'Look, He is there!' do not believe it.


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...yup,the word Christ means Spirit...we have to look inside our self's to find it...our spirit is not on the outside...the words> "Jesus the Christ" means> the flesh which contains the spirit...we are all flesh and we all contain the same spirit, we all share...a house divided cannot stand...hf..try not to be fooled by the concepts created by our spirit,which wasn't created ,for it has always existed before the creation/flesh/creations/concepts...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Mark 13:21 Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'Look, He is there!' do not believe it.


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...yup,the word Christ means Spirit...we have to look inside our self's to find it...our spirit is not on the outside...the words> "Jesus the Christ" means> the flesh which contains the spirit...we are all flesh and we all contain the same spirit, we all share...a house divided cannot stand...hf..try not to be fooled by the concepts created by our spirit,which wasn't created ,for it has always existed before the creation/flesh/creations/concepts...
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then explain to me 666 and how it differs from 777,do you know the distinction between the two?
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The "power" that this guy has, could certainly be used to fullfill the "thief in the night" prophecies.

This guy Im looking is not a north american, yet he is of jew blood.

So if your nobody/prophet is North American, its not the same person.
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Mark 13:21 Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'Look, He is there!' do not believe it.


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Yes. AND: Revelation 1:7
“Look, he is coming with the clouds,” and “every eye will see him, even those who pierced him”; and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.” So shall it be! Amen.

Yea, everyone hasn't seen him coming in the clouds, so...
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2nd Esdras 13 I will come as a thief in the night
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2nd Esdras 13:52
52 And he said unto me, Like as thou canst neither seek out nor know the things that are in the deep of the sea: even so can no man upon earth see my Son, or those that be with him, but in the day time.

People won't be able to understand that Jesus' first begotten has such an important role until this last day servant is revealed because as 2nd Esdras 13:52 says: even so no man upon earth see my Son or those that be with him, but in the day time....(It is still dark right now)
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Mark 13:21 Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'Look, He is there!' do not believe it.


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...yup,the word Christ means Spirit...we have to look inside our self's to find it...our spirit is not on the outside...the words> "Jesus the Christ" means> the flesh which contains the spirit...we are all flesh and we all contain the same spirit, we all share...a house divided cannot stand...hf..try not to be fooled by the concepts created by our spirit,which wasn't created ,for it has always existed before the creation/flesh/creations/concepts...
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then explain to me 666 and how it differs from 777,do you know the distinction between the two?
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see below VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

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How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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The "power" that this guy has, could certainly be used to fullfill the "thief in the night" prophecies.

This guy Im looking is not a north american, yet he is of jew blood.

So if your nobody/prophet is North American, its not the same person.
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the real lord resides in australia.. thats all im gonna say for now.. and no its not a big secret in his state that he is the lord of all yet the scum there are fallen so bad that it doesnt make a difference anymore.. but wait.. just wait a little longer..
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the correct translation is:Just as no one can seek out or know what is in the depth of the sea,so no one on earth can see my Son,or those who are with him,exept at the time of his day. His day is coming
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Mark 13:21 Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'Look, He is there!' do not believe it.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1055544
...yup,the word Christ means Spirit...we have to look inside our self's to find it...our spirit is not on the outside...the words> "Jesus the Christ" means> the flesh which contains the spirit...we are all flesh and we all contain the same spirit, we all share...a house divided cannot stand...hf..try not to be fooled by the concepts created by our spirit,which wasn't created ,for it has always existed before the creation/flesh/creations/concepts...
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then explain to me 666 and how it differs from 777,do you know the distinction between the two?
 Quoting: Mi'Kmaq
666= flesh/creation(s) and created concepts of division that lead away from our spirit...777= our co-creator spirit we all share and knowledge that leads us inward to our shared spirit...as its written, a house divided cannot stand...those aren't shits and giggles in my/our 777 thread...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...

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