I think I know that the 2nd Christ is here on Earth in the flesh. Lets talk about it.

I'm telling you people: She is here, being protected.

God is non denominational. God is not of the torah or the bible, or the quran. Those are all guides, and there are many roads towards God.

A few decades ago, the US government received a device from our friends in the galaxy. It was provided to us to help us, and to provide us with answers and to alert us to when our God arrived again. The person was found 30 years ago after her psychic abilities began alerting tptb, making it rain in rooms, and when she began channeling spirits as a child. When the device was synched up to her, they began receiving the readings.

She has been protected her entire life, and has worked very hard in trying to help humanity connect with God within ourselves. She is going public in a few months.

And further to her, she knows the leaders of the top nations and is on a first name basis with 3 of the last 4 presidents. She is well known to all of them.

...you have received the truth and just as the spirit said before in metaphors and parables..you rejected it for your flesh and your concepts...so let the dead bury the dead if you refuse your spirit to rise within and your flesh to die to the concepts...later co-creator spirits,may we all find our self within ,for we are not of the world,we are of spirit...

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The antichrist as a she, as the woman of scars, as the queen of harlots, as the queen of the south, as the queen of the dead, as "Isis", or as "Aparecida" (as we call in Brazil) is ONE of the possible multiverses.

But this guy I talking about in this thread, has much more potential to be used as "antichrist" than any female, or "motherly figure".

So it begs the question, what is the role/purpose of this man after all.

The Bible provides an open enough interpretation of the antichrist, atleast from the little I know, so as to even allow these multiverses.

You might think its US. But it might end up being UK.

It is really easy to build up US to deceive the interpretation, while its the UK that matches it.

Im not saying it is one or the other. I barelly started paying attention to this aspect of the prophecies.

Wow wow wow. Hold there a minute.

There is only one way. One Living God.
"Im the the truth, the way and the life"

The Judaism/Christianity is essentially the same, with a few exceptions. Im talking about the ortodox semite jews, the true jews. Like how I call true christians the ones that follow the KJV of the Bible. I know that every other denomination of jew and christian are deceptions. The weight of millions of deaths during different points on the history tells me that. But the Bible itself states that the jews are the sons of God, they do have the zeal, but the doctrine is off in some points. So its essentially the same thing, wich exception that the semite jews are ok to keep on their ways, since we know that before the end of the time they will awake.

Now Quran is clearly designed religion to make war against Christianity. This is basic premise at this point.
We might discuss wether or not the False Prophet will arrive from the Muslim world or not, but thats about the limits of your comparison.


Ok, I just read "device from friends in the galaxy". Ok, you are totally off, sorry, Im not a feather on the wind anymore.

Oh great... another dude telling us all how a woman is evil, lol. Sigh. Yawn. And go on with your little game... I'm sure the departments watching this thread is profiling you as you read this. Perhaps you should be afraid if you speak of someone that should be dead, on all pages of this thread.

I'm not sure what else I should say about her until she's ready to come out herself. Here are some things I can share:

The first president she met was George Bush Sr. and still has very nice things to say about him. She also speaks very highly of Bill Clinton, and encouraged him to start his Global Initiatives Project, which he did...much to her delight.

She hand picked Obama in 1997, from messages she received from the spirits. She told her people to look for a lawyer who recently graduated from law school who had a wife named Michelle. At the same time she asked her contact to reach out to Oprah and tell her she needed to help this man in his pursuit of the Presidency. She couldn't provide his first name because she hadn't heard it before. Usually when the spirits send her a message, they 'show' her people she knows or references she will get so she can work through it. For first names of someone, the spirit will show her someone she knows with the same first name. Since she couldn't provide a first name all she could say is that Oprah already met him, they run in similar circles, he has a wife Michelle. A month later, they found Barrack.

She was worried because she couldn't see his first name. She said it was probably because she hadn't heard it before and it must have been an odd first name. But the message was clear. The world needed unity, love, freedom, community...and he was the best choice in helping to provide that.

She is very real, very powerful, very patient and carries so much on her shoulders.

"he didn't have a different spirit from anyone else who lives and breaths and moves and talk" are you talking about the Holy Ghost?

"a god is incomplete because..." you start by saying that "that God is, must be, or must have..." None of those even apply, unless they are stated by the system of belief itself within the system of belief.
You cant really argument outside of it either using "human thinking". "Natural Law", "Categoric Imperatives", "Aristotelic Rethoric".

The logic structure utilized on the Bible is way more advanced than anything we have "developed" during all our history for someone to come and attempt to bypass it with their own system of belief. Doesnt work that way.

There is no 2nd Christ. Christ is God. Stop listening to ass hole jewish freemasons.

lol

thats what you get for just reading the title.

It's very simple to see where the lost 10 tribes are. They are the ones that deuteronomy 28 blessings and curses apply to and that is clearly the blessings of the Unites States and clearly the curses on on the way....Here are the blessings we had and the curses that are coming:

28 “Now it shall come to pass, if you diligently obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all His commandments which I command you today, that the Lord your God will set you high above all nations of the earth. 2 And all these blessings shall come upon you and overtake you, because you obey the voice of the Lord your God:

3 “Blessed shall you be in the city, and blessed shall you be in the country.

4 “Blessed shall be the fruit of your body, the produce of your ground and the increase of your herds, the increase of your cattle and the offspring of your flocks.

5 “Blessed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl.

6 “Blessed shall you be when you come in, and blessed shall you be when you go out.

7 “The Lord will cause your enemies who rise against you to be defeated before your face; they shall come out against you one way and flee before you seven ways.

8 “The Lord will command the blessing on you in your storehouses and in all to which you set your hand, and He will bless you in the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

9 “The Lord will establish you as a holy people to Himself, just as He has sworn to you, if you keep the commandments of the Lord your God and walk in His ways. 10 Then all peoples of the earth shall see that you are called by the name of the Lord, and they shall be afraid of you. 11 And the Lord will grant you plenty of goods, in the fruit of your body, in the increase of your livestock, and in the produce of your ground, in the land of which the Lord swore to your fathers to give you. 12 The Lord will open to you His good treasure, the heavens, to give the rain to your land in its season, and to bless all the work of your hand. You shall lend to many nations, but you shall not borrow. 13 And the Lord will make you the head and not the tail; you shall be above only, and not be beneath, if you heed the commandments of the Lord your God, which I command you today, and are careful to observe them. 14 So you shall not turn aside from any of the words which I command you this day, to the right or the left, to go after other gods to serve them.
Curses on Disobedience

15 “But it shall come to pass, if you do not obey the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all His commandments and His statutes which I command you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:

16 “Cursed shall you be in the city, and cursed shall you be in the country.

17 “Cursed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl.

18 “Cursed shall be the fruit of your body and the produce of your land, the increase of your cattle and the offspring of your flocks.

19 “Cursed shall you be when you come in, and cursed shall you be when you go out.

20 “The Lord will send on you cursing, confusion, and rebuke in all that you set your hand to do, until you are destroyed and until you perish quickly, because of the wickedness of your doings in which you have forsaken Me. 21 The Lord will make the plague cling to you until He has consumed you from the land which you are going to possess. 22 The Lord will strike you with consumption, with fever, with inflammation, with severe burning fever, with the sword, with scorching, and with mildew; they shall pursue you until you perish. 23 And your heavens which are over your head shall be bronze, and the earth which is under you shall be iron. 24 The Lord will change the rain of your land to powder and dust; from the heaven it shall come down on you until you are destroyed.

25 “The Lord will cause you to be defeated before your enemies; you shall go out one way against them and flee seven ways before them; and you shall become troublesome to all the kingdoms of the earth. 26 Your carcasses shall be food for all the birds of the air and the beasts of the earth, and no one shall frighten them away. 27 The Lord will strike you with the boils of Egypt, with tumors, with the scab, and with the itch, from which you cannot be healed. 28 The Lord will strike you with madness and blindness and confusion of heart. 29 And you shall grope at noonday, as a blind man gropes in darkness; you shall not prosper in your ways; you shall be only oppressed and plundered continually, and no one shall save you.

30 “You shall betroth a wife, but another man shall lie with her; you shall build a house, but you shall not dwell in it; you shall plant a vineyard, but shall not gather its grapes. 31 Your ox shall be slaughtered before your eyes, but you shall not eat of it; your donkey shall be violently taken away from before you, and shall not be restored to you; your sheep shall be given to your enemies, and you shall have no one to rescue them. 32 Your sons and your daughters shall be given to another people, and your eyes shall look and fail with longing for them all day long; and there shall be no strength in your hand. 33 A nation whom you have not known shall eat the fruit of your land and the produce of your labor, and you shall be only oppressed and crushed continually. 34 So you shall be driven mad because of the sight which your eyes see. 35 The Lord will strike you in the knees and on the legs with severe boils which cannot be healed, and from the sole of your foot to the top of your head.

36 “The Lord will bring you and the king whom you set over you to a nation which neither you nor your fathers have known, and there you shall serve other gods—wood and stone. 37 And you shall become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword among all nations where the Lord will drive you.

38 “You shall carry much seed out to the field but gather little in, for the locust shall consume it. 39 You shall plant vineyards and tend them, but you shall neither drink of the wine nor gather the grapes; for the worms shall eat them. 40 You shall have olive trees throughout all your territory, but you shall not anoint yourself with the oil; for your olives shall drop off. 41 You shall beget sons and daughters, but they shall not be yours; for they shall go into captivity. 42 Locusts shall consume all your trees and the produce of your land.

43 “The alien who is among you shall rise higher and higher above you, and you shall come down lower and lower. 44 He shall lend to you, but you shall not lend to him; he shall be the head, and you shall be the tail.

45 “Moreover all these curses shall come upon you and pursue and overtake you, until you are destroyed, because you did not obey the voice of the Lord your God, to keep His commandments and His statutes which He commanded you. 46 And they shall be upon you for a sign and a wonder, and on your descendants forever.

47 “Because you did not serve the Lord your God with joy and gladness of heart, for the abundance of everything, 48 therefore you shall serve your enemies, whom the Lord will send against you, in hunger, in thirst, in nakedness, and in need of everything; and He will put a yoke of iron on your neck until He has destroyed you. 49 The Lord will bring a nation against you from afar, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flies, a nation whose language you will not understand, 50 a nation of fierce countenance, which does not respect the elderly nor show favor to the young. 51 And they shall eat the increase of your livestock and the produce of your land, until you are destroyed; they shall not leave you grain or new wine or oil, or the increase of your cattle or the offspring of your flocks, until they have destroyed you.

52 “They shall besiege you at all your gates until your high and fortified walls, in which you trust, come down throughout all your land; and they shall besiege you at all your gates throughout all your land which the Lord your God has given you. 53 You shall eat the fruit of your own body, the flesh of your sons and your daughters whom the Lord your God has given you, in the siege and desperate straits in which your enemy shall distress you. 54 The sensitive and very refined man among you will be hostile toward his brother, toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the rest of his children whom he leaves behind, 55 so that he will not give any of them the flesh of his children whom he will eat, because he has nothing left in the siege and desperate straits in which your enemy shall distress you at all your gates. 56 The tender and delicate woman among you, who would not venture to set the sole of her foot on the ground because of her delicateness and sensitivity, will refuse[a] to the husband of her bosom, and to her son and her daughter, 57 her placenta which comes out from between her feet and her children whom she bears; for she will eat them secretly for lack of everything in the siege and desperate straits in which your enemy shall distress you at all your gates.

58 “If you do not carefully observe all the words of this law that are written in this book, that you may fear this glorious and awesome name, THE LORD YOUR GOD, 59 then the Lord will bring upon you and your descendants extraordinary plagues—great and prolonged plagues—and serious and prolonged sicknesses. 60 Moreover He will bring back on you all the diseases of Egypt, of which you were afraid, and they shall cling to you. 61 Also every sickness and every plague, which is not written in this Book of the Law, will the Lord bring upon you until you are destroyed. 62 You shall be left few in number, whereas you were as the stars of heaven in multitude, because you would not obey the voice of the Lord your God. 63 And it shall be, that just as the Lord rejoiced over you to do you good and multiply you, so the Lord will rejoice over you to destroy you and bring you to nothing; and you shall be plucked from off the land which you go to possess.

64 “Then the Lord will scatter you among all peoples, from one end of the earth to the other, and there you shall serve other gods, which neither you nor your fathers have known—wood and stone. 65 And among those nations you shall find no rest, nor shall the sole of your foot have a resting place; but there the Lord will give you a trembling heart, failing eyes, and anguish of soul. 66 Your life shall hang in doubt before you; you shall fear day and night, and have no assurance of life. 67 In the morning you shall say, ‘Oh, that it were evening!’ And at evening you shall say, ‘Oh, that it were morning!’ because of the fear which terrifies your heart, and because of the sight which your eyes see.

68 “And the Lord will take you back to Egypt in ships, by the way of which I said to you, ‘You shall never see it again.’ And there you shall be offered for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.”

They do that with all spiritually powerful women. Look at what they did to Jesus' wife Mary. Turned her into a hooker.

Alright, why dont you copy paste more about this wonderfull woman that is "going public in a few months"? Im sure some people would read.

That I cannot share. Other than the world will not end in December, I can't share her message. That's for her to share when the time is right.

But for everyone who is worried about the end of time this December, don't worry. December will not mark the end of the world as so many think, but rather, it will mark the end of the old ways, and a birth of a new consciousness. She will speak about it.

Sorry for hijacking your thread OP. I meant no malice.

Frankly, I posted here because it seemed like a friendly thread. If I were to make another post about this, I'd be afraid of the barrage of abuse I'd face.

I was thinking that people on this topic were operating under the premise that we already know that TPTB will do regarding the spirituality/female/mother.

Thats not what God refered to "deceive even the ellect".

That cant fool any Christian.

Now, the guy Im thinking about is the real danger to christians, because he has been prepared by God and can potentially deceive his own people.

you mentioned something about astrological signs in your first posts? could you enlarge upon what type of signs?

The rib was takin' from men to make him always want her.

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Why do people always quote the religious books verbatim and insist that every word of it is an absolute? It is not and all you are doing is denying your own connection with God by putting another layer in between you and God. God wants you to refer to it for guidance but speak directly to God. THAT is how you walk with God and develop your relationship.

It's just so disheartening. These books that were meant to help us, hinder us by keeping us away from our power and our God.

Promise? I am feeling a little anxious and overwhelmed.

Ok let's go then.

she is the woman of purple and scarlet who is dressed in fancy garb, not the Bride of Christ.

...i remote view both the past and the future including the correct metaphor versions the Vatican has locked up in its vaults...never mind about the rest,i deleted..

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Hi Ceti,
I remote viewed under many levels under the Vatican too. It was hot as hell down below there.

It is ZAKK!

Yes I am here now

John 3
Apart from the clear message of keeping the commandments, not sinning, loving one another, there seems to be clues for recognizing the second comming of the Lord. One of them is not using the terminology of Christ. It matches the idea that the Lord will not come to save from sins, so its not called the Christ. This is incredible. Basically it tells you not expect someone who comes to save us from our sins!

Maybe thats why one cant point the finger to "the Christ". Because there wont be any salvation from sins and we should not be expecting that.

Talks about "the son of god manifested", as if creating a counter point for him being NOT manifested when he comes as the Lord.

It creates a series of conditions:
since you know the truth (or you should know if you followed the way, i.e. all the carefully placed clues on this book)

[wich should raise eyebrows, because there are so many clues and puzzles and interpretations and indications of people not understanding, not hearing, not seeing, not having wisdom, being in darkness and so on to the point that you ask yourself, how come the culture never mentions how cryptic the Bible is, because its a feat of itself]

Wich also lets clear that there will be deception and the people who really didnt "got the message" will fall for it. But its not that what will happen in real life will be great wonders and miracles that will deceive people only. It seems like the Bible itself plays a role by being the way it is, so that there are many locks, keys and layers of understanding.

And then it continues

"the world knoweth us not, because it him it not". The Sons of God were not known. But its not talking about christians only, this Gospel is of John the Baptist, wich had the spirit of the prophecy. So it this "knoweth us not", might mean "therefore the world DID NOT RECOGNIZED US".

And that seems to be sense of that part of the Gospel, give clues so that people could "knoweth", but in the sense of identify, recognize, diferentiate.

And then it goes (John 3:2) "Beloved, now we are the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is."

This "not yet appear what we shall be" might indicate the remmants sons of God alone, or it might include also the angels (if they dwell amongst us).

"when he shall appear" to me its clear, its about the 2nd comming, the return of the Lord.

now the last part is the most important: "if you are like him, then you will see him, AS HE IS".

This indicate that everyone who is not like him, WILL NOT SEE HIM AS HE IS.

So many people might be thinking about some grandiose, glorious return. But what this imply, is that most will not recognize him, because IT WILL LOOK LIKE HE IS A NOBODY.

But then again, if YOU ARE LIKE HIM, then you CAN recognize him.

Now, knowing all the story of Jesus Christ from the first time, if he were to come again, "without being manifested" (wich will be mentioned a little later on the scripture), how would he be like? And then you have to imagine a cross over of ortodox semite jew with true/hardcore/fundamentalist/scripturalist christian. Wich is completelly different from the Christ, or "manifested form", or the one described with special effects "heavens scrolling open and bright light..."

At John 3:6, it seems to indicate again, that those who sinned, or were in sin, did not know him. But if you keep interpreting "know" as "recognize/identify", then its a clear message saying, THOSE WHO ARE IN SIN WILL NOT RECOGNIZE HIM.

And it keeps talking about the FIRST comming of the Lord as him being MANIFESTED. But then you think, "why is scripture telling me that?" It doesnt have any other purpose unless it is to create a counter paralel to say that "When he comes the second time, it is not to remove the sins, therefore he will not be manifested!"

John 3:9 is a circling argument, if you are born of god you dont sin, and you keep your seed, and you cannot sin, because you are born of God. This is to reinforce the idea of not Sin, but also indicates the need to keep "the seed". Maybe it refers to the "life", to the "connection with God". The 777 as opposed to the 666, and if you lose the seed, you go from 777 to 666, through Sin. Something like that I heard earlier on the thread. I dont saw it on the Bible though.

John 3:10, talks about being manifested BY KEEPING THE SEED, i.e. Not sinning. But also by being righteous and loving their brothers.

This goes right back into Malachi 4:5-6. Wich states that in the later days Elijah would come back to turn the hearts of the father back to the children and vice-versa, or a curse.