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Ahhhh time for bed. Wait, where am I all of a sudden?

A dream plane is somewhere you are. A place to do things, a place to be.

This is also somewhere where you and other people can do things together. Somewhat like physical reality. Each plane is relatively isolated from one another and what happens in one doesn't affect the others (unless you make it happen). What you do in the basement doesn't mean that it necessarily affects the main floor, but it can.

Here are a list of planes that have been universally recognized as follows (in order):

-Physical
-Etheric
-Astral
-Mental
-Spiritual

You use up more energy on the Etheric plane as opposed to the Astral plane, etc. So to become lucid in the Etheric plane is more difficult.

Each plane is a testing ground. This is the evolution of your spirit.

The etheric plane is mostly a testing ground for how you deal with things in physical situations. The etheric plane is an environment which helps you in obtaining your physical needs. Animals have etheric dreams in times of famine, and it helps them to find food / water.

The astral plane is the plane where your ego doesn't exist. It is a dream plane of emotions and feelings. If you can, ask your spirit guides that you meet here to teach you the nature of fear, which is very important.

This is why I STRONGLY suggest doing energy work like Tai-Chi, Qigong or Yoga. The energy you gather by doing this energy work is what helps you gain power in the astral realm. This is the energy required for you to remember your dreams, to fly, to control the situation in any of the dream planes, etc.



As per Seer777 she had requested that I explain "bridging" the dream planes.

When it comes to this, you need to refer yourself to my scrying thread:

Thread: So who's interested in scrying?

This is a small stepping stone in a HUGE journey if you can scry in the astral realm. You need to practice Magick in order to accomplish this and it isn't something that you can really wrap your mind around unless you have a good unerstanding of the basics.

May the divine number bless you hf

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As per Seer777 she had requested that I explain "bridging" the dream planes.


 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


:)

I was discussing this earlier with another, which is why I requested such of you.

As I know you are learned...


Perhaps this will explain where I am at with it...

I don't mean messing with others free will, more just what could be possible if one grew very apt at it.




I would imagine that all one would need to do, is imagine two spheres with proper intention.

One being your dream plane sphere, the other belonging to that which is your intention.

Once the two sphere are brought together a bridge appears, or portal between the two, allowing for the two dream planes to interact.

A bit like how 'Space' is folded in the movie, Dune...


Seem like it could be potentially dangerous as well, so perhaps there are gate keepers.

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


Do you have thoughts on this?

As it just came to me today.

:)



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4 a good dream.
In which plane so ever.

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As per Seer777 she had requested that I explain "bridging" the dream planes.


 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


:)

I was discussing this earlier with another, which is why I requested such of you.

As I know you are learned...


Perhaps this will explain where I am at with it...

I don't mean messing with others free will, more just what could be possible if one grew very apt at it.




I would imagine that all one would need to do, is imagine two spheres with proper intention.

One being your dream plane sphere, the other belonging to that which is your intention.

Once the two sphere are brought together a bridge appears, or portal between the two, allowing for the two dream planes to interact.

A bit like how 'Space' is folded in the movie, Dune...


Seem like it could be potentially dangerous as well, so perhaps there are gate keepers.

hmm
 Quoting: Seer777


Do you have thoughts on this?

As it just came to me today.

:)



hf
 Quoting: Seer777


I think that perhaps you might be confusing the course of your spirit evolution (Aeon) with your "intention" as you put it. They are the same in the long run but seperated temporarily.

Concerning free will: It is basically good or bad, black or white, light or shadow. It's recognizing the shadow that is the proper course of evolution. It's so buried in so many levels that you need certain experiences to bring it out and recognize it for what it is. The free will is what you do once you recognize it. Do you reject it or embrace it?

Once you reject it, you move to the next level so to speak. There are gate keepers for sure, who know when you're ready to move forward or not. These are angelic beings; the ones I talk about often.

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I thought you were talking about planes but it was really plains or is it????
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I think that perhaps you might be confusing the course of your spirit evolution (Aeon) with your "intention" as you put it. They are the same in the long run but seperated temporarily.

Concerning free will: It is basically good or bad, black or white, light or shadow. It's recognizing the shadow that is the proper course of evolution. It's so buried in so many levels that you need certain experiences to bring it out and recognize it for what it is. The free will is what you do once you recognize it. Do you reject it or embrace it?

Once you reject it, you move to the next level so to speak. There are gate keepers for sure, who know when you're ready to move forward or not. These are angelic beings; the ones I talk about often.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


I think what I am asking is if there are certain individuals whom are capable of bridging dream planes of another?



And I don't mean 4D entities.

I mean people.


And in doing so, the implications of such and also the enormous potential of said.

Say for instance, 7 individuals who were very capable at AP were to decide to come together in the Astral as separate Dream planes in the shape of spheres.

When placing one in the middle if you will, the other six could merge their dream planes creating the 'Seed of Life'.


hmm

Just a thought I am working with.


Musing.

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I don't know a lot about dream states or planes, but I do have a related question.

Sometimes (more often recently actually) I remember my dreams when I'm looking in the mirror. You know, normal stuff brushing teeth, or washing my face. And then boom, the dreams come flooding back to me.

What does that mean?
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I think what I am asking is if there are certain individuals whom are capable of bridging dream planes of another?

And I don't mean 4D entities.

I mean people.

And in doing so, the implications of such and also the enormous potential of said.

Say for instance, 7 individuals who were very capable at AP were to decide to come together in the Astral as separate Dream planes in the shape of spheres.

When placing one in the middle if you will, the other six could merge their dream planes creating the 'Seed of Life'.

hmm

Just a thought I am working with.

Musing.

tounge

 Quoting: Seer777


Everyone is capable of bridging these. But it takes work. There are very few people who are born with these abilities; but they are all innate within all of us.

Very interesting concept with the 7 individuals. Yes I believe this would work if the conditions are right.
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I don't know a lot about dream states or planes, but I do have a related question.

Sometimes (more often recently actually) I remember my dreams when I'm looking in the mirror. You know, normal stuff brushing teeth, or washing my face. And then boom, the dreams come flooding back to me.

What does that mean?
 Quoting: ntlatp


It's normal. The same way that people experience kundalini on the crapper (lol).

[link to homes.bio.psu.edu (secure)] Look at this picture and then look at the tree of life.

It is uncomfortable for your higher self to manifest in this dimension, but with a mirror you can see it. A mirror is like a window into another plane.

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Food for thought,,, tried a green thumb, already gave you one this week,,,
this too shall pass
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I think what I am asking is if there are certain individuals whom are capable of bridging dream planes of another?

And I don't mean 4D entities.

I mean people.

And in doing so, the implications of such and also the enormous potential of said.

Say for instance, 7 individuals who were very capable at AP were to decide to come together in the Astral as separate Dream planes in the shape of spheres.

When placing one in the middle if you will, the other six could merge their dream planes creating the 'Seed of Life'.

hmm

Just a thought I am working with.

Musing.

tounge

 Quoting: Seer777


Everyone is capable of bridging these. But it takes work. There are very few people who are born with these abilities; but they are all innate within all of us.

Very interesting concept with the 7 individuals. Yes I believe this would work if the conditions are right.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


I believe there are MANY more than we currently believe.

For instance, I think of it a bit like when Cerebro is utilized to find all the 'mutants'...and the shock at HOW many there Really are...


Perhaps THIS is how the the portal(bridge) between the 4th and 3rd is opened...

By utilizing this bit of Sacred Geometry...

hmm


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I love the info about dreaming and I have gotten into it before.
The problem arises that I must always take care of business in the "existence" world so often that I can not keep working on the other planes.
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I believe there are MANY more than we currently believe.

For instance, I think of it a bit like when Cerebro is utilized to find all the 'mutants'...and the shock at HOW many there Really are...


Perhaps THIS is how the the portal(bridge) between the 4th and 3rd is opened...

By utilizing this bit of Sacred Geometry...

hmm

 Quoting: Seer777


Interesting. Could you elaborate?

The bridge between the 3rd and 4th happens through meditation and astral projection of course, but configuring an equation to this process is something that is far beyond my ability (at this time).

Man, I love Pythagoras :)

Last Edited by Cheshire~Cat on 11/05/2012 08:17 PM
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I believe there are MANY more than we currently believe.

For instance, I think of it a bit like when Cerebro is utilized to find all the 'mutants'...and the shock at HOW many there Really are...


Perhaps THIS is how the the portal(bridge) between the 4th and 3rd is opened...

By utilizing this bit of Sacred Geometry...

hmm

 Quoting: Seer777


Interesting. Could you elaborate?

The bridge between the 3rd and 4th happens through meditation and astral projection of course, but configuring an equation to this process is something that is far beyond my ability (at this time).
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Absolutely.

I mean, more like a 'hole'...

vortex


I assume one would start by practicing with the vesica piscis, Two.

vesicapisces
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I assume one would start by practicing with the vesica piscis, Two.
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Indeed.
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I assume one would start by practicing with the vesica piscis, Two.
 Quoting: Seer777


Indeed.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Yes.


So herein lay the problem...

Are there gatekeepers on said individual dream planes?

And if there are, can one(s) be granted access through purely proper intention if they are skilled enough to do so?


Thoughts?

:)
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I assume one would start by practicing with the vesica piscis, Two.
 Quoting: Seer777


Indeed.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Yes.


So herein lay the problem...

Are there gatekeepers on said individual dream planes?

And if there are, can one(s) be granted access through purely proper intention if they are skilled enough to do so?


Thoughts?

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


The gatekeepers in which I reference are the governors of the Aethyrs. They're kind of like a mix between a place and an entity. Things are so much different in the astral realm than they are here that words can't even describe it.

This is where you get into Enochian Magick. The gatekeepers give you instruction and it's different for you than with everyone else they encounter for the most part.

Your evolution depends on circumstances unknown to dogma. But they are known to those who know better :)
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I assume one would start by practicing with the vesica piscis, Two.
 Quoting: Seer777


Indeed.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Yes.


So herein lay the problem...

Are there gatekeepers on said individual dream planes?

And if there are, can one(s) be granted access through purely proper intention if they are skilled enough to do so?


Thoughts?

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


The gatekeepers in which I reference are the governors of the Aethyrs. They're kind of like a mix between a place and an entity. Things are so much different in the astral realm than they are here that words can't even describe it.

This is where you get into Enochian Magick. The gatekeepers give you instruction and it's different for you than with everyone else they encounter for the most part.

Your evolution depends on circumstances unknown to dogma. But they are known to those who know better :)
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Okay...so let me go a bit further then...as we must be careful here.


Hellhounds for instance.

Said to guard...


What of individual dream planes?


Evolution backward= No IT, U Love.

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Okay...so let me go a bit further then...as we must be careful here.


Hellhounds for instance.

Said to guard...


What of individual dream planes?


Evolution backward= No IT, U Love.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


This is much different. There are no "gatekeepers" in regards to the different dream planes. It is all subject to what your spirit needs most. You are your own gatekeeper.

The gatekeepers I referred to were of the Aethyrs.

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Okay...so let me go a bit further then...as we must be careful here.


Hellhounds for instance.

Said to guard...


What of individual dream planes?


Evolution backward= No IT, U Love.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


This is much different. There are no "gatekeepers" in regards to the different dream planes. It is all subject to what your spirit needs most. You are your own gatekeeper.

The gatekeepers I referred to were of the Aethyrs.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


See, this is where I am at.

I am not so sure you are correct here being that, all are born with guardians and some acquire others with time.

I assume being generally 'Astral entities' that they would protect on the dream plane as well...

Correct?


Hellhound was reference.

I hope you see it.


hf
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Okay...so let me go a bit further then...as we must be careful here.


Hellhounds for instance.

Said to guard...


What of individual dream planes?


Evolution backward= No IT, U Love.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


This is much different. There are no "gatekeepers" in regards to the different dream planes. It is all subject to what your spirit needs most. You are your own gatekeeper.

The gatekeepers I referred to were of the Aethyrs.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


See, this is where I am at.

I am not so sure you are correct here being that, all are born with guardians and some acquire others with time.

I assume being generally 'Astral entities' that they would protect on the dream plane as well...

Correct?


Hellhound was reference.

I hope you see it.


hf
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Yes we are all born with varying degrees of guardians, etc. But you have to understand that the dream plane is the lowest of the low. It barely scratches the surface of the Aethyrs at the lowest level. The dream plane is for YOU, at its most primal level. The dream plane is for those who are unaware of the Aethyrs and is a natural spiritual evolution.

Going beyond the dream plane is mine and most other scryers' goal. We have achieved this, and continue forward to the ultimate goal.

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Okay...so let me go a bit further then...as we must be careful here.


Hellhounds for instance.

Said to guard...


What of individual dream planes?


Evolution backward= No IT, U Love.

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


This is much different. There are no "gatekeepers" in regards to the different dream planes. It is all subject to what your spirit needs most. You are your own gatekeeper.

The gatekeepers I referred to were of the Aethyrs.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


See, this is where I am at.

I am not so sure you are correct here being that, all are born with guardians and some acquire others with time.

I assume being generally 'Astral entities' that they would protect on the dream plane as well...

Correct?


Hellhound was reference.

I hope you see it.


hf
 Quoting: Seer777


Yes we are all born with varying degrees of guardians, etc. But you have to understand that the dream plane is the lowest of the low. It barely scratches the surface of the Aethyrs at the lowest level. The dream plane is for YOU, at its most primal level. The dream plane is for those who are unaware of the Aethyrs and is a natural spiritual evolution.

Going beyond the dream plane is mine and most other scryers' goal. We have achieved this, and continue forward to the ultimate goal.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Sure...but that is not my point.


I speak of the 4D specifically.

Being that, ALL go there...


Scrying is something completely different as far as I am concerned and can be utilized in a number of ways and locations if one is blessed with such...

As any reflective surface seems to work...


This is not a discipline question regarding planes, but that which I posed specifically.

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Sure...but that is not my point.


I speak of the 4D specifically.

Being that, ALL go there...

Scrying is something completely different as far as I am concerned and can be utilized in a number of ways and locations if one is blessed with such...

As any reflective surface seems to work...

This is not a discipline question regarding planes, but that which I posed specifically.

 Quoting: Seer777


Ah, how to bridge the 4D planes in other words. This is only done with scrying or by natural evolution (utilizing the dream planes to your advantage).

The problem with this is, the help you receive is not of the 3d world. If you were to collect 3d entities such as ourselves and put them to the purpose to bridge the dream planes, what would be accomplished?

There is a clear route of evolution ahead. I think that this endeavour would only set us back.
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Sure...but that is not my point.


I speak of the 4D specifically.

Being that, ALL go there...

Scrying is something completely different as far as I am concerned and can be utilized in a number of ways and locations if one is blessed with such...

As any reflective surface seems to work...

This is not a discipline question regarding planes, but that which I posed specifically.

 Quoting: Seer777


Ah, how to bridge the 4D planes in other words. This is only done with scrying or by natural evolution (utilizing the dream planes to your advantage).

The problem with this is, the help you receive is not of the 3d world. If you were to collect 3d entities such as ourselves and put them to the purpose to bridge the dream planes, what would be accomplished?

There is a clear route of evolution ahead. I think that this endeavour would only set us back.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Interesting...please elaborate.

I value your opinion which is why I ask.


As it seems to me that 3D and 4D are set to merge.


Only by that which I have currently yet to glean.

To what END, is my question...


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I assume one would start by practicing with the vesica piscis, Two.
 Quoting: Seer777


Indeed.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Yes.


So herein lay the problem...

Are there gatekeepers on said individual dream planes?

And if there are, can one(s) be granted access through purely proper intention if they are skilled enough to do so?


Thoughts?

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


The gatekeepers in which I reference are the governors of the Aethyrs. They're kind of like a mix between a place and an entity. Things are so much different in the astral realm than they are here that words can't even describe it.

This is where you get into Enochian Magick. The gatekeepers give you instruction and it's different for you than with everyone else they encounter for the most part.

Your evolution depends on circumstances unknown to dogma. But they are known to those who know better :)
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the domain/dimension(s) possess character/personality thus all things within the domain/dimension express the dimensional personality of the domain/dimension

the domain/dimensional personality it`self is recognisable therefore may be spoken with or expressed as a singular affect of multiple cause as all causes (units within the domain) express the personality of their collective singular affect
example: vortice
the vortice within all things affecting all things is the same nature of personality everywhere

the domain/dimensional personalities are hierarchical because they sequence in non material and material dimension in accordance to all dimensions synergistic singular affect as in:
the singular affect all all things maintains the direction (sequences of expression) all things maintain thus all things experience and continue to experience varying degrees of their synergistic singular affect which, for the purpose of this topic, can been seen as a self organizing attractor formed and maintained by that which is attracted to it, all things

the nature/motive of our environments overall synergistic singular affect may be expressed as
the structure of our universe forces eternal to function eternally
translating all experience (emotional expression/life) into expression of our environments motivational expression (self aware/self sufficient)

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Sure...but that is not my point.


I speak of the 4D specifically.

Being that, ALL go there...

Scrying is something completely different as far as I am concerned and can be utilized in a number of ways and locations if one is blessed with such...

As any reflective surface seems to work...

This is not a discipline question regarding planes, but that which I posed specifically.

 Quoting: Seer777


Ah, how to bridge the 4D planes in other words. This is only done with scrying or by natural evolution (utilizing the dream planes to your advantage).

The problem with this is, the help you receive is not of the 3d world. If you were to collect 3d entities such as ourselves and put them to the purpose to bridge the dream planes, what would be accomplished?

There is a clear route of evolution ahead. I think that this endeavour would only set us back.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Interesting...please elaborate.

I value your opinion which is why I ask.


As it seems to me that 3D and 4D are set to merge.


Only by that which I have currently yet to glean.

To what END, is my question...

 Quoting: Seer777


This is a relatively new concept to me to contemplate so you'll have to bear with me :)

I wonder if you're proposing using the 3d person to take the place of 4d instruction for the individual in terms of using a 3rd party from this dimension to bridge the gap?

In both the dream planes and the aeon itself, it is all about recognizing things about yourself to enable your spirit to grow. This is a very careful process especially in the dream planes. The dream planes are a nursery of sorts in the aeon.

By the way, I always love your illustrations :) Do you have a blog or library with the pictures somewhere?

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Re: Dream Planes
the domain/dimension(s) possess character/personality thus all things within the domain/dimension express the dimensional personality of the domain/dimension

the domain/dimensional personality it`self is recognisable therefore may be spoken with or expressed as a singular affect of multiple cause as all causes (units within the domain) express the personality of their collective singular affect
example: vortice
the vortice within all things affecting all things is the same nature of personality everywhere

the domain/dimensional personalities are hierarchical because they sequence in non material and material dimension in accordance to all dimensions synergistic singular affect as in:
the singular affect all all things maintains the direction (sequences of expression) all things maintain thus all things experience and continue to experience varying degrees of their synergistic singular affect which, for the purpose of this topic, can been seen as a self organizing attractor formed and maintained by that which is attracted to it, all things

the nature/motive of our environments overall synergistic singular affect may be expressed as
the structure of our universe forces eternal to function eternally
translating all experience (emotional expression/life) into expression of our environments motivational expression (self aware/self sufficient)
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You remind me of Thoth. I love it :)
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the domain/dimension(s) possess character/personality thus all things within the domain/dimension express the dimensional personality of the domain/dimension

the domain/dimensional personality it`self is recognisable therefore may be spoken with or expressed as a singular affect of multiple cause as all causes (units within the domain) express the personality of their collective singular affect
example: vortice
the vortice within all things affecting all things is the same nature of personality everywhere

the domain/dimensional personalities are hierarchical because they sequence in non material and material dimension in accordance to all dimensions synergistic singular affect as in:
the singular affect all all things maintains the direction (sequences of expression) all things maintain thus all things experience and continue to experience varying degrees of their synergistic singular affect which, for the purpose of this topic, can been seen as a self organizing attractor formed and maintained by that which is attracted to it, all things

the nature/motive of our environments overall synergistic singular affect may be expressed as
the structure of our universe forces eternal to function eternally
translating all experience (emotional expression/life) into expression of our environments motivational expression (self aware/self sufficient)
 Quoting: aether


You remind me of Thoth. I love it :)
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


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Hey seer I was still trying to understand your earlier proposal...

I wonder if you're proposing using the 3d person to take the place of 4d instruction for the individual in terms of using a 3rd party from this dimension to bridge the gap?

I hope I've been helpful. I think we might have a different understanding of the Aeon though.
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Sure...but that is not my point.


I speak of the 4D specifically.

Being that, ALL go there...

Scrying is something completely different as far as I am concerned and can be utilized in a number of ways and locations if one is blessed with such...

As any reflective surface seems to work...

This is not a discipline question regarding planes, but that which I posed specifically.

 Quoting: Seer777


Ah, how to bridge the 4D planes in other words. This is only done with scrying or by natural evolution (utilizing the dream planes to your advantage).

The problem with this is, the help you receive is not of the 3d world. If you were to collect 3d entities such as ourselves and put them to the purpose to bridge the dream planes, what would be accomplished?

There is a clear route of evolution ahead. I think that this endeavour would only set us back.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Interesting...please elaborate.

I value your opinion which is why I ask.


As it seems to me that 3D and 4D are set to merge.


Only by that which I have currently yet to glean.

To what END, is my question...

 Quoting: Seer777


This is a relatively new concept to me to contemplate so you'll have to bear with me :)

I wonder if you're proposing using the 3d person to take the place of 4d instruction for the individual in terms of using a 3rd party from this dimension to bridge the gap?

In both the dream planes and the aeon itself, it is all about recognizing things about yourself to enable your spirit to grow. This is a very careful process especially in the dream planes. The dream planes are a nursery of sorts in the aeon.

By the way, I always love your illustrations :) Do you have a blog or library with the pictures somewhere?
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Thank you. :)

No, I don't have a blog.


I have trouble grasping what the 'Aeon' is composed of. Could you give me a brief explanation of said?

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