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Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.

 
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Jesus allows us to choose - asks us to make the right choices and to ask for forgiveness when we sin. Giving money in a forced way to a corrupt government for some minimal good is not the choice he would advocate. He would want people to help others as individuals where not only are they helping the people by measured goods but also in a way where love is shared and passed along.
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Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.
Obama:
A sick child with pre-existing condition = healed
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No, OP, Obamacare is going to crash because it's no fucking good. It's a total scam.
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Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.
Romneycare IS universal and more affordable for all.
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Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.
Let me get this right. OBAMA needs to get his hands off your body, how damn him poke his nose into your business with Obamacare and YOUR body.

!!YET!!

In the next breath you have Romney forcing women to do as he says with their bodies (re: abortion). Wow, talk about double standards. Not to mention Romney supports "Rape Exclusions". So who is focing people to do what they want with their bodies? Pfftt get real.

Oh and Romney says I can't smoke a bit of weed ever if he is elected, more Romney's hands on my body when he shoulf F^@! off.

You repubs are good at forcing your views on others as long as you agree with them. Don't for a second play like Romney will keep his hands off your body.
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Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.
I don't want you to vote for Romney or Obama, but I will tell you this simple fact.

Jesus opposed government of all types, shapes, forms and it's very existence.

He was the original Rebel.

& Would be against any government mandating, or demanding something from it's so called, "people."

Government creates problems.

Jesus stood for solutions.
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Agree
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Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.
obamacare is a lie force on the people against their will. God wants us to be free and happy, obamacare does the opposite.
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Jesus healed the sick but not all of them. It didn't cost a penny either. Wouldn't he of healed every sick person if he was in favor of universal healthcare?
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Let me get this right. OBAMA needs to get his hands off your body, how damn him poke his nose into your business with Obamacare and YOUR body.

!!YET!!

In the next breath you have Romney forcing women to do as he says with their bodies (re: abortion). Wow, talk about double standards. Not to mention Romney supports "Rape Exclusions". So who is focing people to do what they want with their bodies? Pfftt get real.

Oh and Romney says I can't smoke a bit of weed ever if he is elected, more Romney's hands on my body when he shoulf F^@! off.

You repubs are good at forcing your views on others as long as you agree with them. Don't for a second play like Romney will keep his hands off your body.
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So you want to be convinced by the standards of Jesus yet argue for abortion? Run along moran.
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obamacare is a lie force on the people against their will. God wants us to be free and happy, obamacare does the opposite.
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Tell that to all the families facing bankruptcy over insurance companies turning their backs on pre-existing conditions. And NOW they are surviving thanks to Obamas changes which stuck it to these corrupt ass insurance companies. You think those people hate Obamacare? Fuck the insurance companies. Enjoy your insurance when Romney deregulates them, good luck getting covered for ANYTHING lol
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Obamacare is for funding Abortions.

Do you think Jesus would say its OK to kill babies with a heartbeat just so everyone can be on the government managed health paycheck?
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Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.
I don't want you to vote for Romney or Obama, but I will tell you this simple fact.

Jesus opposed government of all types, shapes, forms and it's very existence.

He was the original Rebel.

& Would be against any government mandating, or demanding something from it's so called, "people."

Government creates problems.

Jesus stood for solutions.
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Agreed. While the OP is clearly just trolling, a vote for Romney wouldn't exactly be a vote for what Jesus would do, either.

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Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.
Let me get this right. OBAMA needs to get his hands off your body, how damn him poke his nose into your business with Obamacare and YOUR body.

!!YET!!

In the next breath you have Romney forcing women to do as he says with their bodies (re: abortion). Wow, talk about double standards. Not to mention Romney supports "Rape Exclusions". So who is focing people to do what they want with their bodies? Pfftt get real.

Oh and Romney says I can't smoke a bit of weed ever if he is elected, more Romney's hands on my body when he shoulf F^@! off.

You repubs are good at forcing your views on others as long as you agree with them. Don't for a second play like Romney will keep his hands off your body.
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I got news for ya, I'm a woman and when you are pregnant that body belongs to you and your baby, both! You are responsible for YOUR actions, if you get pregnant that is YOUR DAM fault not the unborn childs!!

It's dam well time that women stopped using abortion as a means of birth control, how arrogant we have become to think that the child in us does not deserve a life because it would be inconvenient for us!

You should have thought of that before you opened your legs!
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OP your a tard. What part of Obamacare means universal healthcare?

Its a hot mess of regulations that only benefits:

1) Large well funded corporations with an army of lawyers to figure out the complex regulations, who then use it to thwart and bludgeon smaller companies, doctors, and customers who are not as well versed in details of the regulations
2) Government, to arbitrarily select a regulation to prosecute a particular person or organization with
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A lot of repubs (christians) rail against those in need with a "not our problem, fuck em" attitude. This is extremely unChrist like. Jesus would be giving free healthcare to all regardless of the cost, he would feed and clothe the needy regardless of cost, he would certainly tax the wealthy to the extreme. Discuss.
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I'm a conservative, not a republican. I would like to know that my health expenses are covered by a tax-funded system, and of course they aren't. But the way Obamacare was implemented structured, it divided the country and will bankrupt it.

The democrat party has as one of its main principles class warfare. They can't discuss ideas with the opposition because, frankly, the opposition will always be the enemy.

Republicans are different. They have a consensus-building approach that DOES work, when it is used.

So, democrats, shed all of your class-warfare rhetoric and ideologues.
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I don't want you to vote for Romney or Obama, but I will tell you this simple fact.

Jesus opposed government of all types, shapes, forms and it's very existence.

He was the original Rebel.

& Would be against any government mandating, or demanding something from it's so called, "people."

Government creates problems.

Jesus stood for solutions.
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Jesus had infinite patience for individuals and NONE for institutions or systems. It is a pretty awesome testament to His way and a clear indication as to what REALLY matters in life, don't you think?
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Let me get this right. OBAMA needs to get his hands off your body, how damn him poke his nose into your business with Obamacare and YOUR body.

!!YET!!

In the next breath you have Romney forcing women to do as he says with their bodies (re: abortion). Wow, talk about double standards. Not to mention Romney supports "Rape Exclusions". So who is focing people to do what they want with their bodies? Pfftt get real.

Oh and Romney says I can't smoke a bit of weed ever if he is elected, more Romney's hands on my body when he shoulf F^@! off.

You repubs are good at forcing your views on others as long as you agree with them. Don't for a second play like Romney will keep his hands off your body.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3607425


I got news for ya, I'm a woman and when you are pregnant that body belongs to you and your baby, both! You are responsible for YOUR actions, if you get pregnant that is YOUR DAM fault not the unborn childs!!

It's dam well time that women stopped using abortion as a means of birth control, how arrogant we have become to think that the child in us does not deserve a life because it would be inconvenient for us!

You should have thought of that before you opened your legs!
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Last i checked we as humans have not become Gods, we do not have the right to say who lives and who dies, in this instance.
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Jesus would despise Obamacare. It's a corrupt system which will force you to pay. Jesus would want you to CHOOSE to help others.

Remember the story about Jesus throwing the money plates at the temple because he saw the corruptness of the church and priests? He'd not like Obamacare equally as much.
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Our healthcare system does not make people well...in fact it does the exact opposite. More people die every year from legal pharmaceuticals than you realize. Do your research. Our healthcare system is more about making money than healing people. Jesus would be against it.
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Jesus taught by example, not by force. At no time did he advocate that anyone should be forced to do unto others as we would have done unto us. It is about choice.

Communism is about force. It forcefully takes from one to do for another, forcing the first to hope that the government will come back and care for him when the time comes. There is no place left for heartfelt giving. Over and over, socialism and communism have failed to truly provide for ALL of its citizens. Good example: UK now is demanding that all doctors designate 1 out of 100 patients to be taken off of life preserving care and instead placed in "hospice" which is basicly a death sentence. UK doctors are being ordered by their Socialist government to push patients out of life saving care. That's what Obamacare will do for your mom and dad and eventually you. Obamacare calls them "commissions", others call them death panels.

While the personal choice towards charity that Christ advocates won't save everyone, the lack of choice has already proven to be even more disasterous.
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obamacare is a lie force on the people against their will. God wants us to be free and happy, obamacare does the opposite.
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Tell that to all the families facing bankruptcy over insurance companies turning their backs on pre-existing conditions. And NOW they are surviving thanks to Obamas changes which stuck it to these corrupt ass insurance companies. You think those people hate Obamacare? Fuck the insurance companies. Enjoy your insurance when Romney deregulates them, good luck getting covered for ANYTHING lol
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regulations on insurance companies can exist without obamacare which runs money through the wasteful government if you think for one minute that the government will be more efficent than the private insurance companies then there is no hope for you and you cannot be changed at this point
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Hey OP,
I know you probably can't read, but if you can take a look here:

[link to mittromneycentral.com]
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A lot of repubs (christians) rail against those in need with a "not our problem, fuck em" attitude. This is extremely unChrist like. Jesus would be giving free healthcare to all regardless of the cost, he would feed and clothe the needy regardless of cost, he would certainly tax the wealthy to the extreme. Discuss.
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He damm sure wouldnt want a Muslim in charge since the don't believe in him or his father. LMFAO !
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Part of the problem here is that insurance companies need to be regulated, state by state according to each state's needs.
Regulate them so insurance companies cannot get away with some of the things they do.
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I can guarantee you that Jesus would not be fond of Obamacare in its present form.
ie having to pay penalties if you can't afford to buy insurance.
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Re: Convince me that Jesus would not want universal healthcare for all Americans, if you can I'll vote Romney.
Besides the word "Universal" does not or will never apply here, everyone is different, if everyone was the same it would be a very boring world and would stagnate and go out with no more than a whimper.
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A lot of repubs (christians) rail against those in need with a "not our problem, fuck em" attitude. This is extremely unChrist like. Jesus would be giving free healthcare to all regardless of the cost, he would feed and clothe the needy regardless of cost, he would certainly tax the wealthy to the extreme. Discuss.
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you accuse then you say what's your opinion.....like it really it did matter to you...

your understanding is looking kinda warped.....

oh and quit misrepresenting the Savior..........
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Because Jesus is against socialism.

Socialism = Theft with another name
Universal Healthcare = Financed by Socialistic theft

So now you can vote for Romney, not that I recommend you vote for either Obama or Romney.
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Barry was chosen in 1998 to lead the cause.

God saw a country divided and knew that it was by design by the dark forces. God saw the next 20 years, a world out of control, a country misusing its power, its people lost, divided and struggling.

First thing to do was put a black man in office, in hopes of uniting us and demonstrating that our colors of skin are just our shells. God is all about unity, while the dark forces are all about dividing us. The fact that there are two political parties in the US is no coincidence. It was by design. And God is trying to show the world that this division is taking us away from our strength and power.

Barry was also chosen because of his integrity and his inner compass. A flawed human with a true desire to strengthen the community, to create strengths in our individuality...which is the cornerstone of humanity.

God also noticed how the good always gets attacked. He saw the work Lincoln did with the GOP and freeing the slaves, and then saw the beginning of the attack on the party. Since then, there has been a systematic assault on the party...attacking it until what it is now...a Godless controlling de-humanizing entity. Make no mistakes, there was much effort put in to it.

God worries that everyone has moved so far away from what is important. Love is the answer to every question.
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what would jesus do when overpopulation and consumption has pushed mankind to the brink? Save us all? Well it will be his ways that led us there... The sharing and peace only lead to no conflicts and more and more people. Helping the weak only allows the them to continue degrading the human genome. God made us perfect, that includes our passion to dominate. Lets stop holding hands and follow the natural order.
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I bet Jesus wants everyone to be millionaires too. He also wants world peace.

Jesus wants a Utopian society. Unfortunately a utopian society isn't realistic.
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