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Survival Med stuff ?s

 
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Survival Med stuff ?s
1: fish med same as human antibiotics ?
2: liquid skin close to high hold hairspray?

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11/05/2012 11:16 PM
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1: fish med same as human antibiotics ?
2: liquid skin close to high hold hairspray?

tell me more
thanks in advance
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7280888


Yes on the antibiotics they are even filled by a licensed pharmacist I have a good site if you want they are cheap... The cipro is the same brand as walmart sells
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Re: Survival Med stuff ?s
1: fish med same as human antibiotics ?
2: liquid skin close to high hold hairspray?

tell me more
thanks in advance
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7280888


pet antibiotics are the same as human if the name is the same.
If it is labled USP it is same standard as human.

'Liquid skin' aka flexible collodion is not hairspray and is not enough for anything of significance
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www.countrysidepet.com 800-313-5737
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thanks
that's what i thought.
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USP for the win

thanks
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[link to www.countrysidepet.com]
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Go to a farm supply store like Tractor Supply Company. They have lots of meds for farm animals that are just like we use. They are also about a 1000 times cheaper than what you would be charged if you bought the same amount (or could) of "Human Grade" antibiotics.

Related... If you live near a Mil. Base, keep a look out on Craigslist for a medical pack. LOTS of good supplies in them if full like sutures, clamps, bandages, airway tubes etc, etc..
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thank you for the proper bandage arena my friend !
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Super glue is effectively the same as skin glue. I use it regularly - way better than a bandage when you need to keep a cut clean. The dollar store stuff works just fine.
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Super glue is effectively the same as skin glue. I use it regularly - way better than a bandage when you need to keep a cut clean. The dollar store stuff works just fine.
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I understand that but I was wondering if a High hold hairspray could cover larger wounds as a basic "skin" type covering post alcohol disinfection kind of a light version of liquid skin if needed for a larger area if needed
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Super glue is effectively the same as skin glue. I use it regularly - way better than a bandage when you need to keep a cut clean. The dollar store stuff works just fine.
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I understand that but I was wondering if a High hold hairspray could cover larger wounds as a basic "skin" type covering post alcohol disinfection kind of a light version of liquid skin if needed for a larger area if needed
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I dont know, Hair spray is poly vinyl chloride mixed with alcohol... That would be pretty fucked up... might kill some one
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Liquid Bandage Ingredients Photo Credit Digital Vision./Digital Vision/Getty Images

Liquid bandages are intended for use on clean, dry wounds to facilitate closure and promote healing. Many commercial brands are available, and while the active ingredients are usually the same across various brands, the additives may vary. Liquid bandage research is an ongoing effort to improve functionality, availability and uses.
Carrier

The largest component of any liquid bandage is the carrier, or vehicle of the adhesive component. Most commercial liquid bandages contain an alcohol component, referred to as isooctane, as the base ingredient. This is the ingredient responsible for the initial sting when placed on a cut. The isooctane also allows the bandage to dry within minutes. Application of an additional alcohol on the cut will disrupt the polymer-alcohol mix in the bandage and remove it. Not all liquid bandages contain alcohol, however, as some use a permeable liquid base.
Polymer

Polymers come in many forms and usually have the longest scientific-sounding name on the label. Polymers are the nontoxic glue in liquid bandages and may read as methyacrylate or acrylate, but will always have the word "polymer" somewhere in the mix. The chemical composition of this skin polymer is only a few molecules away from that used in commercial hair preparations such as hairspray. The polymer is engineered to start breaking down after only a few days.
Additives

Most commercial liquid bandages have additional additives promoted to heal the wound faster. These additives can include an antiseptic component, which is sometimes the alcohol carrier or an additional component to prevent bacterial growth in the cut. Nexcare's 3M liquid bandage has an additive of tea tree oil, a herbal preparation known for its antimicrobial effects when used topically. The U.S. Army has engineered a liquid bandage that harbors lidocaine and antibiotics to effectively block wound pai

[link to www.livestrong.com]
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op....


[link to tsc.tractorsupply.com]

your welcome...

Also do some reading on Injec. Antibiotics
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the point


The chemical composition of this skin polymer is only a few molecules away from that used in commercial hair preparations such as hairspray. The polymer is engineered to start breaking down after only a few days.
Additives
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Super glue is effectively the same as skin glue. I use it regularly - way better than a bandage when you need to keep a cut clean. The dollar store stuff works just fine.
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I understand that but I was wondering if a High hold hairspray could cover larger wounds as a basic "skin" type covering post alcohol disinfection kind of a light version of liquid skin if needed for a larger area if needed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7280888


no, it's not worth the trouble.
Wound care is NOT simply sealing dirt under a wrapper
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The chemical composition of this skin polymer is only a few molecules away from that used in commercial hair preparations such as hairspray. The polymer is engineered to start breaking down after only a few days.
Additives

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no, liquid skin is pretty much nitrocellulose and ether or a blend of solvents.
It doesnt break down, it simply falls off from moisture.
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11/05/2012 11:46 PM
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think blood stopper products. there will be no 911....
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The chemical composition of this skin polymer is only a few molecules away from that used in commercial hair preparations such as hairspray. The polymer is engineered to start breaking down after only a few days.
Additives

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no, liquid skin is pretty much nitrocellulose and ether or a blend of solvents.
It doesnt break down, it simply falls off from moisture.
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is a hairspray just a light er version of this?
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why dont you just buy the real thing by 3m
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I am just curious and appreciate all input
super glue wins, liquid skin next but would strong hairspray work as a 3rd ? in an extreme situation.
Yes or no?

thanks for any input.
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why dont you just buy the real thing by 3m
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not the exact thread point
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11/06/2012 12:02 AM
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The chemical composition of this skin polymer is only a few molecules away from that used in commercial hair preparations such as hairspray. The polymer is engineered to start breaking down after only a few days.
Additives

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7280888


no, liquid skin is pretty much nitrocellulose and ether or a blend of solvents.
It doesnt break down, it simply falls off from moisture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


is a hairspray just a light er version of this?
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dunno about all, but probably not.

Your first frikken clue should be that nobody in the biz uses the stuff for anything by small scrapes, or sticking EEG leads to the scalp.
Ask any doctor, they dont use the stuff, and someone without any real training will just get hurt imagining it will do more that it really can.
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why dont you just buy the real thing by 3m
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26142676


the 'real' stuff is still cyanoacrylate, but costs roughly 20 times as much.

If you have something more than just a small cut that cant be glued or steristripped together, you either stitch it, or staple it.
You can buy staple sets pretty cheaply, and they work fast and are easy. You can get the large size for large size slashes, or small ones for smaller cuts.
The problem always remains that most people dont understand wound closure do's and donts, and what you get wrong can kill someone
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if you fucking idiots need spray on bandages... you won't make it a week
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11/06/2012 12:15 AM
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thanks to all

the hairspray was about a minor large area skin abrasion
not a punctured area nor deep cut requiring stitches.
thank you all

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