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Why people attack someone who says something they disagree with...

 
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Why people attack someone who says something they disagree with...
this is my opinion... I realize I will be attacked for it.

The way the human mind works is

1. When information is gained from a source, the first thing people ask themselves is... does this information agree with what I already know/believe? If it does, they then mentally label the source of the information as 'more credible.' And do nothing else.

2. If the information does not agree with what the already know/believe, then they look to how credible the source of the information is. If the source of information is not credible, the information is dismissed.

However, if the source of information IS CREDIBLE they have two options...

1. Change their beliefs. Which is a hard, painful, grueling process that requires a lot of thought and risk and pain.

2. Destroy the source's credibility. And then dismiss the information. A.K.A. attack the person. Call them stupid, a shill, liar, etc.

And so people usually choose option two.
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11/06/2012 01:14 AM
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Re: Why people attack someone who says something they disagree with...
I disagree...


grinning

firstly, even if I agree with a viewpoint, if the source is dodgy, I don't just swallow it.

secondly, what is a credible source anyway?

but I agree that, unfortunately, most people are just stuck in their box. why bother looking at any new info at all?
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Re: Why people attack someone who says something they disagree with...
I disagree...


grinning

firstly, even if I agree with a viewpoint, if the source is dodgy, I don't just swallow it.

secondly, what is a credible source anyway?

but I agree that, unfortunately, most people are just stuck in their box. why bother looking at any new info at all?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27108517


You know, I thought about that a lot. What is a credible source of information?

After a lot of thought, I decided that when a source of information tells me something I agree with- something I have already determined to be true- I give them more 'credibility'.

And when someone tells me something that I later find to be untrue. They lose 'credibility.'

So take a physics textbook. A lot of the information in there can be tested first hand. So after experimenting a bit, I find the makers of the textbook Credible. And in a pinch, I am willing to take them at their word if I have to.

Meanwhile, a bible on the other hand. I have found very few things in a bible to be true. So the bible and the people who make bibles, I do not find credible. So I dismiss everything they say.
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11/06/2012 01:32 AM

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Re: Why people attack someone who says something they disagree with...
this is my opinion... I realize I will be attacked for it.

The way the human mind works is

1. When information is gained from a source, the first thing people ask themselves is... does this information agree with what I already know/believe? If it does, they then mentally label the source of the information as 'more credible.' And do nothing else.

2. If the information does not agree with what the already know/believe, then they look to how credible the source of the information is. If the source of information is not credible, the information is dismissed.

However, if the source of information IS CREDIBLE they have two options...

1. Change their beliefs. Which is a hard, painful, grueling process that requires a lot of thought and risk and pain.

2. Destroy the source's credibility. And then dismiss the information. A.K.A. attack the person. Call them stupid, a shill, liar, etc.

And so people usually choose option two.
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I think you have to look at the "Agenda" of the source of information as well. And "Agenda" and "Credibility" are two different things. Because even if facts within an argument are true, or have a grain of truth, it often depends on how these facts are deseminated and organized within the argument as to what conclussion will be drawn from that argument...

In other words, left wingers and right wingers may present the same facts, both from credible sources, but the conclussions may be polar opposites...

I believe Agenda matters in this, because it is a rare thing to find a totally neutral party within the information business these days...

So I believe people have the right to take an Agenda into consideration when they determine the credibility of an argument from their perspective...

After all, if you're Agenda, is not in line with my Agenda, there's going to be an automatic level of distrust for any information you provide...

Last Edited by Saddletramp on 11/06/2012 02:11 AM
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Re: Why people attack someone who says something they disagree with...
the thing about 'testing' the source's credibility is, that it might be right about some things, but then throws in a lot of nonsense, which is how disinfo works. if they only lied, no one would listen to them.

for example, David dIcke points out many things I happen to agree with. does that mean I take every story he posts or every new idea he comes up with as gospel? no.

I think for myself. funny to read this thread today, was just talking with my other half about the same thing.
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Re: Why people attack someone who says something they disagree with...
I disagree...


grinning

firstly, even if I agree with a viewpoint, if the source is dodgy, I don't just swallow it.

secondly, what is a credible source anyway?

but I agree that, unfortunately, most people are just stuck in their box. why bother looking at any new info at all?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27108517


You know, I thought about that a lot. What is a credible source of information?

After a lot of thought, I decided that when a source of information tells me something I agree with- something I have already determined to be true- I give them more 'credibility'.

And when someone tells me something that I later find to be untrue. They lose 'credibility.'

So take a physics textbook. A lot of the information in there can be tested first hand. So after experimenting a bit, I find the makers of the textbook Credible. And in a pinch, I am willing to take them at their word if I have to.

Meanwhile, a bible on the other hand. I have found very few things in a bible to be true. So the bible and the people who make bibles, I do not find credible. So I dismiss everything they say.
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