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Jews Speak the TRUTH About The Holocaust.

 
Dutch Rebel
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Hmmm, there does seem to be a helluva lot of "holocaust survivers" considering they were supposed to be "death camps" and its true, whenever you see that one horrendous clip of the bulldozer, bulldozing hundreds of bodies in that hole, they are all emaciated bodies.

If the Nazis were so efficient none of them would have the chance to starve to death..

Anne Frank died of Typhus not being gassed..
 Quoting: LosTLocos


It's about time to investigate this whole issue, although it would be difficult to get past the ADLs' of this world and laws directly prohibiting any doubts about the Holocaust.
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RE Anne Frank died of Typhus not being gassed:

That's because Anne Frank was sent to Bergen-Belsen. Bergen-Belsen didn't have gas chambers. Bergen-Belsen was originally a concentration camp for political opponents of the Nazi's. Tens of thousends of them, including resistance fighters from all over occupied Europe and Russian POW were killed in Bergen-Belsen. From April 1943 also Jewish people were interned there.

RE If the Nazis were so efficient none of them would have the chance to starve to death:

In the death camps with gas chambers 3 out of 4 people were selected to be gassed immediately. Mainly the young, the old and the sick. The rest would be forced to do slave labour for the Germans untill they were starved to death.
Germany needed as much slave labour as possible to keep the war industry going, and fit Jewish men and women were used for that.
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Hmmm, there does seem to be a helluva lot of "holocaust survivers" considering they were supposed to be "death camps" and its true, whenever you see that one horrendous clip of the bulldozer, bulldozing hundreds of bodies in that hole, they are all emaciated bodies.

If the Nazis were so efficient none of them would have the chance to starve to death..

Anne Frank died of Typhus not being gassed..
 Quoting: LosTLocos


It's about time to investigate this whole issue, although it would be difficult to get past the ADLs' of this world and laws directly prohibiting any doubts about the Holocaust.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310161


RE Anne Frank died of Typhus not being gassed:

That's because Anne Frank was sent to Bergen-Belsen. Bergen-Belsen didn't have gas chambers. Bergen-Belsen was originally a concentration camp for political opponents of the Nazi's. Tens of thousends of them, including resistance fighters from all over occupied Europe and Russian POW were killed in Bergen-Belsen. From April 1943 also Jewish people were interned there.

RE If the Nazis were so efficient none of them would have the chance to starve to death:

In the death camps with gas chambers 3 out of 4 people were selected to be gassed immediately. Mainly the young, the old and the sick. The rest would be forced to do slave labour for the Germans untill they were starved to death.
Germany needed as much slave labour as possible to keep the war industry going, and fit Jewish men and women were used for that.
 Quoting: Dutch Rebel 1568275


Hahaha. There were no gas chambers at ANY camp. But of course, you're just going to believe what you're told on TV.

That's ok, you don't need to bother researching it for yourself. The government authorities have already done it all for you.
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11/07/2012 07:37 AM
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Hahaha. There were no gas chambers at ANY camp. But of course, you're just going to believe what you're told on TV.

That's ok, you don't need to bother researching it for yourself. The government authorities have already done it all for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310161


That's right sunshine. I believe it from watching dozens of documentaries from different producers on t.v.
I believe it from interviews with survivors and witnesses (incl. Polish resistance fighters) shown on t.v.
I believe it from reading dozens of history books (with pictures of victims and of German documentation about the ordering of Zyklon B, and the numbers of prisoners transported) and autobiographies from survivors.
I do believe you could call that doing research into this matter.

So far I haven't come accross proof that the gas chambers did not exist. Maybe you could enlighten me?

Or did you crawl al the way from Thailand to Poland to check if these gas chambers were there yourself?

Tell me, what research HAVE YOU done?

Hmpf, to stay in Blues Brother terms.... I not only hate Illinois nazi's, I hate Thai nazi's too.
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11/07/2012 10:20 AM
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Hahaha. There were no gas chambers at ANY camp. But of course, you're just going to believe what you're told on TV.

That's ok, you don't need to bother researching it for yourself. The government authorities have already done it all for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310161


That's right sunshine. I believe it from watching dozens of documentaries from different producers on t.v.
I believe it from interviews with survivors and witnesses (incl. Polish resistance fighters) shown on t.v.
I believe it from reading dozens of history books (with pictures of victims and of German documentation about the ordering of Zyklon B, and the numbers of prisoners transported) and autobiographies from survivors.
I do believe you could call that doing research into this matter.

So far I haven't come accross proof that the gas chambers did not exist. Maybe you could enlighten me?

Or did you crawl al the way from Thailand to Poland to check if these gas chambers were there yourself?

Tell me, what research HAVE YOU done?

Hmpf, to stay in Blues Brother terms.... I not only hate Illinois nazi's, I hate Thai nazi's too.
 Quoting: Dutch Rebel 1568275

Dutch Rebel, first let me thank you for the link to the article regarding the 1400 British POW's at Monowitz.
Although to look at them in the photos one would think they are a well-fed happy group of footballers out for a game.

Their clothing is in good physical shape, they do not appear to be under any duress, nor do they appear to be starving. There are no Nazi SS guarding them as they pose for photo's. and essentially they appear to be content within their captivity...not a very good example of the alleged horrors in a Nazi Camp, wouldn't you say?

I encourage all readers to visit the page that the Dutch Rebel has linked to here.
[link to www.scrapbookpages.com]

Do these gentlemen look to be abused prisoner's?

As for your other offerings, I feel the need to disabuse you of several misconceptions you have.

You claim above that you believe in the gas chamber story because you watched television?

Are you serious?

Then you state you have read several books on the subject.
Were any of those books forensic in nature, or merely people spewing the same tripe as others who hopped onto the Holocaust bandwagon?

Finally you offer that Holy Grail of Holocaustianity....survivor testimonies.

These in combination form the basis for your beliefs regarding gas chambers..is that correct?

If you would like, I will clarify any aspect of the Holocaust for you. Not from watching television, not from reading books that blather the same unproven nonsense, not from German military leaders that have had their balls crushed until they confessed, and certainly not from survivor's who when you really research it can not even agree upon what they claimed to have witnessed.

We can start with the value of survivor testimonies if you wish.
Here is a thread I started a while back on that very subject.
Thread: Every time I try to discuss World War 2 and the Holocaust...

I will leave it to you to take the conversation any further or if you have questions, I will be glad to answer them.

Have a good day.

Last Edited by A_Historian on 11/07/2012 11:42 AM
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Great video. Thanks OP.

That British POW soccer team pic is priceless. You think German POW's that the British held were that happy?

It seems Germany ran a more civilized set of POW camps than anyone else. Until they starting losing of course.
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11/07/2012 11:47 AM
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for those who disagree with op:


do you have any arguments based on facts

or just those based on programmed emotional responses ?
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11/07/2012 11:51 AM
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( watch this video for advice on how to deal with automatic emotional reactions )




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"One who has a stiff upper lip displays fortitude in the face of adversity, or exercises great self-restraint in the expression of emotion.[1] The phrase is most commonly heard as part of the idiom "keep a stiff upper lip", and has traditionally been used to describe an attribute of British people (particularly upper-middle and upper class), who are sometimes perceived by other cultures as being unemotional.["

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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So in your opinion (not proven with facts or anything) you doubt the reliability of 3 survivors testimony from the thousands available, and that is proof for you the gas chambers didn't exist?

You claim that the testimonies from Germans were forced because they had their balls crushed, i.e. were tortured? Where is that proof? From all the footage of the Nurnberg trials, all Germans look in surprising fine shape to me.

[link to www.hdot.org]

What about the documents proving the orders for doors for gas chambers by the architect who built Auschwitz, available in the Auschwitz museum?
A_Historian

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Dutch Rebel wrote:
So in your opinion (not proven with facts or anything) you doubt the reliability of 3 survivors testimony from the thousands available, and that is proof for you the gas chambers didn't exist?

You claim that the testimonies from Germans were forced because they had their balls crushed, i.e. were tortured? Where is that proof? From all the footage of the Nurnberg trials, all Germans look in surprising fine shape to me.

[link to www.hdot.org]

What about the documents proving the orders for doors for gas chambers by the architect who built Auschwitz, available in the Auschwitz museum?
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There are many elements to think about with a crime of such magnitude.

There are the forensics aspects along with the sheer impossibility of body disposal, total lack of fuel, and absent photographic evidence to consider.

With respect to Nuremberg, I am certain from your comment that it is an area you have not studied.

The Allied captors admitted to torturing the Germans

But I am getting ahead of myself. We can discuss any singular topic you wish but not several at once.

Pick any of the above elements and can talk about it, okay?

Last Edited by A_Historian on 11/07/2012 07:31 PM
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"If everyone who claims to be a survivor actually is one," my mother used to exclaim, "who did Hitler kill?

- Norman Finkelstein
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Oh yay! So camp FEMA is really going to be like a super fun summer camp! Awesome! Can't wait!


crazy
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Oh yay! So camp FEMA is really going to be like a super fun summer camp! Awesome! Can't wait!


crazy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1258659


The difference is hitler had communists locked up in those camps and from these videos seemed to have treated them well until they could be deported.

How did the communists treat those in russia that wanted freedom from their tyrannical grips?
They killed them by themillions.

Now who do you think has infiltrated this country from top to bottom and inside out?
Those camps are for people against communism and guess what bud?
If i live to see them put into use i will fight to my dying breath to save this nation from complete takeover by these criminals.
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"If everyone who claims to be a survivor actually is one," my mother used to exclaim, "who did Hitler kill?

- Norman Finkelstein

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Indeed...if we are to believe the testimony of all the "survivors", the nazis must have been a bunch of bumbling idiots, not far off from Hogans Heroes.
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If they had been a valid Military enemy, they would've been handled differently, but because the Jews made themselves so subversive and so pervasive as economic and social enemies, they were physically gathered and confined, where they met their fates one way or another by one hand or another.

Do you deny that the Jews made themselves enemies of Germany?
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i have no proof that the jews made themselves the enemy of germany , i doubt if you do.

 Quoting: Lada D


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Holocaust movies.make the best.movies!!! Thats why i think the holocaust happened!!!!
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"If everyone who claims to be a survivor actually is one," my mother used to exclaim, "who did Hitler kill?

- Norman Finkelstein

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do you have any arguments based on facts

or just those based on programmed emotional responses ?
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Yeah.....sunnysmilepromisedland

About 800 of them. missile1missile1
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Himmler Speaks the TRUTH About The Holocaust

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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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