I Waited In Line One Hour To Vote This Morning, In A Small Precinct- OHIO

I think more democrats would vote for the libertarian than the Republicans would.

Libertarians are very liberal socially. That drives Republicans crazy. Also Libertarians are very anti war...more so then dems, which also drives republicans crazy.

I refuse to believe that. I sat here in NY thinking my vote would probably not count because the lame stream media continues to tell me that Ovomit has this state - no problems. Yet I remember when NY went for Regan. It shocked everyone.

I truly believe this could happen again - and in THIS election!

VOTE!!!!!!!!! No matter what! VOTE!

You just never know.

So which Romney do you think is the real Romney? The primary Romney or the general election Romney?

I think the general election Romney is closer to how he really is...very moderate republican...

Yes, but just as importantly Romney did NOT gain a vote.

And even though I was addressing Evan re: your post, I was speaking more GENERALLY --- I know it's hard for spoiled, sltered, self-centered, immature Libertarians to understand this BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU OR YOUR GOLD-BACKED RAINBOW UNICORN NONSENSE; IT'S ABOUT THIS GREAT COUNTRY. It's about both its past and its future, which are intertwined.

Ok?

Double post

Last Edited by *Evan on 11/06/2012 01:56 PM

Not in our area..... it is Romney all the way in our part of Florida.

How the fuck is a vote for Gary Johnson a vote for Barrack Obama?

Me, and many like me, would either not vote or vote for ANOTHER third party candidate if we weren't voting for Gary Johnson, Jill Stein, or Rocky Anderson.

Where does this reh tard logic come from?

Yeah, but very moderate republican Romney is better than socialist Middle-class hating Obama anyday.

Last Edited by Sleeping Giant on 11/06/2012 01:57 PM

I agree

That is quite poor, because I think NM is a poor state generally.

The problems that have come out about Obama, from his eligibility and identity, to his performance in Benghazi, are enough to deter a lot of people rich and poor. For hispanics their enthusiasm won't be great, given Obama's failure to get them what most wanted in terms of amnesties and a path to a green card for border crossers.

I think NM was assumed to go to O, maybe Romney can get it!

"I think we’re going to win in Ohio…we’ve got the momentum. Folks are really fired up….They like the fact that Mitt Romney is finishing with a positive optimistic message about the future.” - Sen. Rob Portman

I share your optimism!!

Yeah, I'm an anti-war, anti-abortion, anti-welfare (corporate and citizen), anti-gay marriage (another reason I couldn't vote Obama), anti-credit, pro-science (I'm a Physicist), fiscal conservative. Gary Johnson was the closet thing to that in this election.

Yes, he's not going to be nearly as Liberal as he was in Massachussets, but less hawkish than he was during primaries. But you know what? Right now, on November 6, 2012, It doesn't matter right now.

All that matter is preventing the Soros-China-Russia-Iran-Venezuela Cabal from PERMANENTLY securing their choke-hold on the American throat (and balls).

Maya Angelou likes to say "when someone tells you who they are and what they will do, LISTEN to them"

So when Hitler told Jews he was gonna fuck them up but good in 1920s and early 1930s, many "enlightened" and "progressive" Jews dismissed it as empty rheotoric designed for political purposes..... Then came the 1940s ---- Auschwitz, Treblinka, Sobibor, Belzec, Dachau, Maidenek, Birkinau... well you get the point.

Likewise, when Vladimir Lenin, Trotsky, John Reed, Saul Alinsky, Frank Mashall Davis, Angela Davis, Clovard-Piven, Jeremiah Wright, William Ayres.... and few days ago Valerie Jarret TOLD you what their plan was for Obama's 2nd terms ---- and Hillary Clinton for 8 years after that...... LISTEN TO THEM. BELIEVE THEM. THEY DON'T PLAY GAMES. THEY DON'T FUCK AROUND WHEN POWER IS AT THE SAKE.


Don't Libertarian realize that they will be the FIRST ones who end up in FEMA Gulag???? Way before Mitt Romney ends up there? At least Mitt Romney can pay the Communist Totalitarian thugs off until he runs out of his personal money -- and only then will they arrest him..... But Paul Tards will be rounded up as soon as possible.

LOL

That's pretty much my positions too. But since only Obama or Romney can win, I chose the better of those two, Romney.

Romney brings an actually useful skill: he knows as much as anyone what sort of business can succeed. So if he makes investments in private industry, they're less likely to turn out like Solyndra, which wasted a lot of money and did us no good.

Maybe a VC guy is the best thing for us now.

Ha, that was funny, dude!

That's our HOPE!!!

I agree with almost all of what you said.

I really don't want 4 more years of bammy.

As for Paultards being round up first... I will not be scared into abondoning my principles. It's all a man has. His word and his principles.

I understand where you are coming from....I understand the importance of this election. I too hope Obama loses..

Those poor people need help. From what we're hearing - FEMA has had a poor showing and Obama and his crew are claiming that they've done a great job with the storm refugees. The people who are affected are quite upset. Maybe this state DOESN'T go to Obama. One never knows.

But that's the FATAL FLAW of the whole thing!

Because facts matter. Because History matters. Because intelligence matters.

Most Paul Tards -- as opposed to the minority of Libertarians who are truly well-informed and acting in good faith --- are WOEFULLY IGNORANT of, well, pretty much anything that has anything to do with reality, politics, philospophy, history.

All they care about is

-welfare
-drugs
-never fighting in a war (no war is ever "necessary" to them, how convenient!)


So their voting their conscience excuse is BULLSHIT because it's based on hollow, fraudulent, fallacious premise.

And it's good people doing nothing or wasting votes on Obama-paid plant Gary Johnson... is how EVIL triumps.

Even Hitler only came to power, because his opponents were at each other's throats much like Paul tards and Romney supporters are ---- and Adolf being a shrewd operator exploited the vacuum.

Same with Bolsheviks. Guys like Lenin and Trotsky were a SMALL minority, but they filled the temporary vacuum left by World War I and drought that resulted in food prices going up, plus Czar Nicholas II's lack of charisma and the fact that Interim Liberal government were divided and caught asleep at the switch.... BOOM, here comes Lenin, Stalin and Co. who were organized, could whip people in a frenzy better than even Ron Paul can, used brutal suppressive tactics ala Valerrie Jarret is promising to do -----> the rest as they say is History!

There are many more similar examples. And oblivious Paul Tards can't seem to care less!

Many of us respect your choice and kudos to you for voting your conscience. Unfortunately, I saw first hand what voting for third party did for Clinton. I just couldn't do it this time around.

That is ridiculous and false.

I have never met one libertarian who that applies to.

If you want to come back to reality and quit the strawman b.s we can continue..

Last Edited by *Evan on 11/06/2012 02:17 PM

My family says the same thing- Polls very crowded this morning.

I waited 3 hours to vote in south carolina. 90% black people voting and probably 70% women. For whatever its worth.

Unfortunately, with possible voter fraud, that could add up to 160% of people voting for Obama.

I don't think Obama gets all the women vote, contrary to what the media wants us to believe.

Honestly, considering that I am much younger than most people here, I feel like I am just banging my head against the wall because people just don't care about the Truth, just pre-conceived notions and media hype

1) No, Romney is NOT as big a spender as Liberals. That's classic Ross Perot straw-man designed to split the Republican vote. Yes, Reagan run up the debt, but he did that to DEFEAT the Totalitarian Evil of Soviet Union -- and bby extension re-affirm the virtues of America, Capitalism, Technological Progress and Freedom ---- which is why you had that boom in the 90s that the shameless Bill Clinton got undeserved credit for. It can all be traced to Reagan and Bush Sr's symbolic defeat of Communism and opening up the world to American products & ideas.

2) Obama added an astonishing 6 trillion dollars to the debt --- almost as much as ALL previous presidents in the history of the US COMBINED. And that's nothing compared to his far more radical communist plans that he saved for his 2nd term, now that "he no longer has to worry about re-election"..... Wake up.

3) The ONLY way to pay down national debt in the long-term is TO GROW THE ECONOMY. That's how yield literally TRILLIONS of dollars over next 5 years. But as long as Obama is scaring corporations, small businesses and foreign investors away from investing in America's future... we're going to go into Double-dip recession and the debt will fly past 20 trillion in short order. That would be the end of America as you knew it, trust.

Can Romney solve everything with a wave of a magic wand? No. But he has shown in past, in Massachussets and during the Olympics, as well as in the ultra-compettivie & complex Corporate world.... that Romney can and will work with the opposition, will take all POV in consideration, and will try to operate in a bi-partisan way that most voters are demanding these days.

Most importantly, much like Reagan broke the back of he Jimmy Carter Mailaise, Stagflation, oil embargos --- even though it took Ronny 2 long years to do it, it didn't happen ovenight.... Romney too could once again INSPIRE the nation, HEAL the divide, and get America WORKING again, instead of sitting arounf all depressed & waiting for hand-outs that slowly bankrupt the country.

Or, you can have the Messiah back. And then 8 years of Bill Clinton (Hillary). And then in 12 years, another good-looking, charismatic Hispanic Obama will come along to vow the nation. Bye-bye Republican party.

That's the choice this elecion. Nothing short of the cultural clash -- maybe even clash of Civilizations playing out in Northern Ohio.

Number one on your list is false. I am willing to bet you that if Romney is elected, the debt still rises.

That is one thing I am completely sure of.