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I want to start a religion. how do I do it, legally?

 
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11/06/2012 08:48 AM
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I want to start a religion. how do I do it, legally?
Okay everyone, I need/want to start a religion. How do I do this legally? Do I just go downtown and fill out a form or what?
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11/06/2012 08:50 AM
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Re: I want to start a religion. how do I do it, legally?
First thing you need is a messiah..what can you do for me,lets talk.
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11/06/2012 08:56 AM
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Re: I want to start a religion. how do I do it, legally?
I can save your soul when you die. Saving it from negative entities and from random reincarnation.

I can grant you entrance into heaven when you die.

I can save the souls of your loved ones.

I can give your life purpose and hope.

I can give you a strong community and social life.

I can give you knowledge that allows you to utilize your own energy more efficiently, thereby increasing your personal power.
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11/06/2012 09:14 AM
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Re: I want to start a religion. how do I do it, legally?
You're going about this all wrong. First you need to incorporate as a church with a 501C3. Then all you do is find a meeting place that is either offered free of very low priced.

Then you put out a sign and invite everyone to come.

Once they begin to attend your "special" and "only true church" you easily convince them that this message is vital and that "god" needs funds to do this.

Now you're home free........no more taxes for you, 'cause all you need are living expenses. The gullible people will come and see you as the messenger for the world.

Lo, and behold.......you've just started your own religion and with just a little luck you will prosper in the process.
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Don't bother. From your writing I can already tell you're too weak-minded to establish anything other than a retirement house.
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11/06/2012 09:16 AM

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Re: I want to start a religion. how do I do it, legally?
Start writing a book. You know what kind of book I'm talking about right.
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11/06/2012 09:18 AM
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Re: I want to start a religion. how do I do it, legally?
Don't bother. From your writing I can already tell you're too weak-minded to establish anything other than a retirement house.
 Quoting: YesoBeso 13245515


Well I already have five people. And more are interested. Just want to get it legal, so we can start passing out fliers n such without breaking any laws.

I'm very big on following the laws of the land.
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11/06/2012 09:19 AM
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Well you could find some tablets that only you can read with the help of an angel. You can promise eternal life on your own planet with your multiple wives and an infinite number of spirit children. You can steal mason rituals and call them your own....oh wait that one is taken.

On a 2nd thought build a temple and they WILL come.
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I can save your soul when you die. Saving it from negative entities and from random reincarnation.

I can grant you entrance into heaven when you die.

I can save the souls of your loved ones.

I can give your life purpose and hope.

I can give you a strong community and social life.

I can give you knowledge that allows you to utilize your own energy more efficiently, thereby increasing your personal power.
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A few too many "I can" statements there, Jim Jones.

Do you need me to kill both Tate and LaBianca?
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11/06/2012 09:20 AM
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Re: I want to start a religion. how do I do it, legally?
If you are a good liar, half the job is done!
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11/06/2012 09:20 AM
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Re: I want to start a religion. how do I do it, legally?
OP, your playing a dangerous game. In all seriousness it's not worth it, your mocking Jesus and that isn't cool.
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Re: I want to start a religion. how do I do it, legally?
Don't bother. From your writing I can already tell you're too weak-minded to establish anything other than a retirement house.
 Quoting: YesoBeso 13245515


Well I already have five people. And more are interested. Just want to get it legal, so we can start passing out fliers n such without breaking any laws.

I'm very big on following the laws of the land.
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What do you want to call this said religion?
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11/06/2012 09:23 AM
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Are you good at sales ?
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11/06/2012 09:23 AM
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First thing you need is a messiah..what can you do for me,lets talk.
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That's right, a Messiah is what you need. A couple used ones are probably to be had. You would need to accept some class-warfare rhetoric, spouse, kids and dog also; it's a package.
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Re: I want to start a religion. how do I do it, legally?
Don't bother. From your writing I can already tell you're too weak-minded to establish anything other than a retirement house.
 Quoting: YesoBeso 13245515


Well I already have five people. And more are interested. Just want to get it legal, so we can start passing out fliers n such without breaking any laws.

I'm very big on following the laws of the land.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154


Five is all you need for it to be recognized. You'll get tax exemption too which is a plus. Lay out the basis of the religion with some core beliefs, do's and dont's and see where it goes.
Whatever it is it can't be any worse than what's going around already!
Just make a point of not being a sanctimonious cunt like the christians :-)
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Re: I want to start a religion. how do I do it, legally?
Start writing a book. You know what kind of book I'm talking about right.
 Quoting: Tigershield


Already wrote a book. But it has a lot of philosophy and science in it. The first half is pretty much instructions on how to determine if something is credible. Pretty hard for average Americans to follow.

I've found that most people don't want to know why it's true. They want an intelligent person they trust to do the thinking for them, and tell them that it is true. Kind of like getting a mechanic to take a look at a car and tell you if you should buy it or not.

The average person doesn't know the difference between a radiator and a carburetor. So they just try to find a mechanic they trust, and they go with his advice.

Most Christians have never read the bible, much less thought about it.
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11/06/2012 09:24 AM
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Take a business course.
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11/06/2012 09:26 AM
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Re: I want to start a religion. how do I do it, legally?
"Anal sex is a must for salvation" would be a good one. And u could call the religion FISTIANATY.
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11/06/2012 09:33 AM
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Re: I want to start a religion. how do I do it, legally?
"Anal sex is a must for salvation" would be a good one. And u could call the religion FISTIANATY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26969077


The key to salvation is working for the survival of the church, as it is the church that will save your soul.

Just like you contribute to your society and friends and loved ones, as they are the ones who help you when you cannot help yourself.

It's all kind of simple really. Takes a whole lot of brainwashing to blind people to the truth.
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Re: I want to start a religion. how do I do it, legally?
Don't bother. From your writing I can already tell you're too weak-minded to establish anything other than a retirement house.
 Quoting: YesoBeso 13245515


Well I already have five people. And more are interested. Just want to get it legal, so we can start passing out fliers n such without breaking any laws.

I'm very big on following the laws of the land.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154


Five is all you need for it to be recognized. You'll get tax exemption too which is a plus. Lay out the basis of the religion with some core beliefs, do's and dont's and see where it goes.
Whatever it is it can't be any worse than what's going around already!
Just make a point of not being a sanctimonious cunt like the christians :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1368041

Hey, thanks for the informative post. The democrat party is a great example of a modern religion that has managed to call itself something else. It has devils, prophets, dogma, true believers, people it would like to burn at the stake. OP, do you have those all figured out yet? Ask the poster above for more detail.
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11/06/2012 09:36 AM
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Re: I want to start a religion. how do I do it, legally?
The more fantasy bullshit you include the more chance it has of going somewhere. People don't want science or reality!
They want angels, demons, wars, plagues, miracles, heaven and hell'and one massive fucking fireworks show at the end of the soap opera.
Just a heads up :-)
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11/06/2012 09:37 AM

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I can save your soul when you die. Saving it from negative entities and from random reincarnation.

I can grant you entrance into heaven when you die.

I can save the souls of your loved ones.

I can give your life purpose and hope.

I can give you a strong community and social life.

I can give you knowledge that allows you to utilize your own energy more efficiently, thereby increasing your personal power.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154


Will there be Kool Aid at the end:......sorry about the finger I didn't realize kool aid was doing the finger til I uploaded it

:kool aid1::kool aid1:

Last Edited by waterman on 11/06/2012 09:39 AM
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11/06/2012 09:38 AM
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Re: I want to start a religion. how do I do it, legally?
Don't bother. From your writing I can already tell you're too weak-minded to establish anything other than a retirement house.
 Quoting: YesoBeso 13245515


Well I already have five people. And more are interested. Just want to get it legal, so we can start passing out fliers n such without breaking any laws.

I'm very big on following the laws of the land.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154


Five is all you need for it to be recognized. You'll get tax exemption too which is a plus. Lay out the basis of the religion with some core beliefs, do's and dont's and see where it goes.
Whatever it is it can't be any worse than what's going around already!
Just make a point of not being a sanctimonious cunt like the christians :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1368041

Hey, thanks for the informative post. The democrat party is a great example of a modern religion that has managed to call itself something else. It has devils, prophets, dogma, true believers, people it would like to burn at the stake. OP, do you have those all figured out yet? Ask the poster above for more detail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11835165


You are describing a 'society.' All societies have those.

All societies have goals. All societies have enemies. All societies have rules. Leaders. Traditions. Symbols.

A church is a society based on the idea/knowledge that life goes on after death.
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11/06/2012 09:40 AM
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Re: I want to start a religion. how do I do it, legally?
File your 501(c)(3) with the IRS. Tax exempt status, good to gobanana2
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Re: I want to start a religion. how do I do it, legally?
I can save your soul when you die. Saving it from negative entities and from random reincarnation.

I can grant you entrance into heaven when you die.

I can save the souls of your loved ones.

I can give your life purpose and hope.

I can give you a strong community and social life.

I can give you knowledge that allows you to utilize your own energy more efficiently, thereby increasing your personal power.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154


Will there be Kool Aid at the end:......sorry about the finger I didn't realize kool aid was doing the finger til I uploaded it

:kool aid1::kool aid1:
 Quoting: waterman


Sure. You can have kool aid. Why let one bad event ruin kool aid for everyone?

Although I'm against consuming refined sugars. Pretty addictive and toxic stuff. Ruins people. When I see an obese person, I don't think, "that person is lazy and obese," I think, "There is a person suffering from sugar addiction."
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11/06/2012 09:44 AM
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File your 501(c)(3) with the IRS. Tax exempt status, good to gobanana2
 Quoting: el3ktra


We intend to influence politics as much as possible. Just as every other major religion does, despite what they say.

I've been looking and looking. I guess there isn't any real legal way to declare a religion. Weird. Seems like such an important thing.
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11/06/2012 09:46 AM
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you need to write a book like the bible, in 1000 years after all the doom someone will find your book and ta dahhhh you are famous
..why don't you take a seat over there
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File your 501(c)(3) with the IRS. Tax exempt status, good to gobanana2
 Quoting: el3ktra


We intend to influence politics as much as possible. Just as every other major religion does, despite what they say.

I've been looking and looking. I guess there isn't any real legal way to declare a religion. Weird. Seems like such an important thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154

It takes nothing whatever to be a religion except you, yours (if any), and God.

Imo, if you're not already a religion, then becoming one just to influence politics would dilute your message, whatever it is. Does that make sense?

If you claim to be a religion, I guarantee you will be a magnet for hopeful, thoughtful people who want to help others and seek betterment for themselves.

But if you're all about politics, and want to use religion as a vehicle to advance politics but ignore the kinds of things people *seek* in a religion, then you will stand out like a bunch of political activists disguised in face paint. And people may laugh (a lot) at those. But clowns sometimes cry, and if you do, then THAT'S when you may *get religion* in the best sense.

Imo, it is a personally traumatic event in a person's life that makes him/her seek religion, see through the veneer of ritual and dogma, and really start looking for God.

Good luck.

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