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What "conservative" used to mean

 
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What "conservative" used to mean
1. Fiscal responsibility
2. Limited Government
3. States rights
4. No foreign Entanglements



Now in 2012 this is what it means.

1. No gays or lesbians (when many "conservative" politicians are closet gays)
2. No abortion (even though dropping bombs on innocents is still murder)
3. War abroad to make us free


and thats about it..folks...throw in "liberal" to blame every thing that you don't agree with and there you have it...


The new conservative republicans think that the first list in liberal...

1dunno1
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Re: What "conservative" used to mean
1. Fiscal responsibility
2. Limited Government
3. States rights
4. No foreign Entanglements



Now in 2012 this is what it means.

1. No gays or lesbians (when many "conservative" politicians are closet gays)
2. No abortion (even though dropping bombs on innocents is still murder)
3. War abroad to make us free


and thats about it..folks...throw in "liberal" to blame every thing that you don't agree with and there you have it...


The new conservative republicans think that the first list in liberal...

1dunno1
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You nailed it absolutely 100%!!!!!!! The "Republican" talking heads (Limpballs, Hanratty, Fox News, etc.) have hijacked the party.

PIN THIS!!!!

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Re: What "conservative" used to mean
lets not forget the "war on christmas" about 7 years ago...
lol..

true conservative republican rhetoric...
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Re: What "conservative" used to mean
You are nutz. I am a Conservative Republican and that first list still comes first with regard to political basics.

The second list is more about individual morality and worldview. These things are still legitimate things to care about and vote about, btw.
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Re: What "conservative" used to mean
Barney Frank (disgusting) hangs around with flamming gays and he's a liberal devil..

George Bush Jr. Gives Jeff Gannon a press pass when he's a known gay porn star and then GWB hugs and kisses him in front of cameras and somehow that is the mecca of conservatism
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Re: What "conservative" used to mean
1. Fiscal responsibility
2. Limited Government
3. States rights
4. No foreign Entanglements



Now in 2012 this is what it means.

1. No gays or lesbians (when many "conservative" politicians are closet gays)
2. No abortion (even though dropping bombs on innocents is still murder)
3. War abroad to make us free


and thats about it..folks...throw in "liberal" to blame every thing that you don't agree with and there you have it...


The new conservative republicans think that the first list in liberal...

1dunno1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21188697


You nailed it absolutely 100%!!!!!!! The "Republican" talking heads (Limpballs, Hanratty, Fox News, etc.) have hijacked the party.

PIN THIS!!!!

clappa
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster


Yes, because Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow, and Ed Shultz haven't hijacked the Left and made them look like blithering idiots.

It's amazing the things you folks will accept as long as it's along YOUR party lines.
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Re: What "conservative" used to mean
Yup OP I agree. The party has been fractured by the Neo-Cons, Tea Party, and Evangelical Christians. Fundamental conservative principles got tossed somewhere in the fray. It's a shame because I think what people really want is some old school, small government conservatism. Not the crazy accusations of the Tea Party, the endless unfunded wars of the Neo-Cons, or the Theocracy of the Evans.
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Re: What "conservative" used to mean
1. Fiscal responsibility
2. Limited Government
3. States rights
4. No foreign Entanglements



Now in 2012 this is what it means.

1. No gays or lesbians (when many "conservative" politicians are closet gays)
2. No abortion (even though dropping bombs on innocents is still murder)
3. War abroad to make us free


and thats about it..folks...throw in "liberal" to blame every thing that you don't agree with and there you have it...


The new conservative republicans think that the first list in liberal...

1dunno1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21188697


You nailed it absolutely 100%!!!!!!! The "Republican" talking heads (Limpballs, Hanratty, Fox News, etc.) have hijacked the party.

PIN THIS!!!!

clappa
 Quoting: Thor's Hamster


Yes, because Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow, and Ed Shultz haven't hijacked the Left and made them look like blithering idiots.

It's amazing the things you folks will accept as long as it's along YOUR party lines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18147200


thats about right....
all it is about is rooting for your team...no matter what they do...how they act..just tow the line
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Re: What "conservative" used to mean
Yup OP I agree. The party has been fractured by the Neo-Cons, Tea Party, and Evangelical Christians. Fundamental conservative principles got tossed somewhere in the fray. It's a shame because I think what people really want is some old school, small government conservatism. Not the crazy accusations of the Tea Party, the endless unfunded wars of the Neo-Cons, or the Theocracy of the Evans.
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You are so right..and its sad to say..unless a william wallace comes in and saves the country we are pretty much hosed...
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Re: What "conservative" used to mean
You are nutz. I am a Conservative Republican and that first list still comes first with regard to political basics.

The second list is more about individual morality and worldview. These things are still legitimate things to care about and vote about, btw.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24710731


Well show me a politician who who regards that first list and has a plan to live by those standards and I'll vote for him/her..

can you name one?

Seriously?
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Re: What "conservative" used to mean
1. Fiscal responsibility
2. Limited Government
3. States rights
4. No foreign Entanglements


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It's not the 1800's anymore.

It's impossible to be fiscally responsible
It is impossible to scale back the Fed
States rights died with the Civil War
We may not want to entangle with the Foreigns, but they want to entangle with us.

Technology made all of this impossible.
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Re: What "conservative" used to mean
1. Fiscal responsibility
2. Limited Government
3. States rights
4. No foreign Entanglements



Now in 2012 this is what it means.

1. No gays or lesbians (when many "conservative" politicians are closet gays)
2. No abortion (even though dropping bombs on innocents is still murder)
3. War abroad to make us free


and thats about it..folks...throw in "liberal" to blame every thing that you don't agree with and there you have it...


The new conservative republicans think that the first list in liberal...

1dunno1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21188697


Complete truth.

My own theory points to that those out to rob America known who has the stupidest base and the most easily manipulated.

Democratic platform has to many causes, the Republican are incredibly narrow on policy stance and ideology.
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Re: What "conservative" used to mean
You are nutz. I am a Conservative Republican and that first list still comes first with regard to political basics.

The second list is more about individual morality and worldview. These things are still legitimate things to care about and vote about, btw.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24710731


Well show me a politician who who regards that first list and has a plan to live by those standards and I'll vote for him/her..

can you name one?

Seriously?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21188697


Well...Ron Paul obviously. And he is a Republican.
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Re: What "conservative" used to mean
1. Fiscal responsibility
2. Limited Government
3. States rights
4. No foreign Entanglements



Now in 2012 this is what it means.

1. No gays or lesbians (when many "conservative" politicians are closet gays)
2. No abortion (even though dropping bombs on innocents is still murder)
3. War abroad to make us free


and thats about it..folks...throw in "liberal" to blame every thing that you don't agree with and there you have it...


The new conservative republicans think that the first list in liberal...

1dunno1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21188697


Complete truth.

My own theory points to that those out to rob America known who has the stupidest base and the most easily manipulated.

Democratic platform has to many causes, the Republican are incredibly narrow on policy stance and ideology.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26976120


bump
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Re: What "conservative" used to mean
Well it looks like the liberals and romney lost last night..
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Re: What "conservative" used to mean
There is a huge difference between what the GOP elites think and what the average GOP Joe thinks. Smaller Government to the elite means less taxes for them and their corporate masters,less EPA rules so they can gain profit by poisoning the environment,less rules for their Ponzy schemes. It has nothing to do with an actual smaller Federal Government or more freedoms for the average Joe.
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Re: What "conservative" used to mean
There is a huge difference between what the GOP elites think and what the average GOP Joe thinks. Smaller Government to the elite means less taxes for them and their corporate masters,less EPA rules so they can gain profit by poisoning the environment,less rules for their Ponzy schemes. It has nothing to do with an actual smaller Federal Government or more freedoms for the average Joe.
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Very true

but I'm mad at these "republicans" (ie the masses)
who think that this mad politicians are true republicans
and they fall into the same mold just echoing the policies of globalist puppets because they are "republican" or "conservative"

bush was the biggest example of a gay liberal

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