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BREAKING: Not Enough Time For Humans to have Evolved from Apes

 
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and, if you seriously research Darwinism, you will find that even he could not 100% back up his evolution theory...
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He refuted his own theory in his book, The Ascent of Man.

Why pseudo-intellectuals still cling to it is min-boggling.

Sort of like the global warmer zealots.
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I like you, AC ...thank you, I was digging for my info on him refuting his own theory and you saved me time...for what good it will do. lol..few, if any, will actually dig for the truth..on and on it goes...

global warming, ya, another bs tool of tptb to implement their plans and tax us for carbon emissions...etc etc...

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Yep. What amazes me is how dogmatic people are in their beliefs about both topics.

It really seems to be like a religion for them.
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Anyone whose interested in the scientific dissent from Darwinian Evolution should check these two sites out. They are regularly updated with mainstream scientific research that continues to oppose the antiquated and superstitious beliefs in Darwin's magical mutations.


[link to www.evolutionnews.org]

[link to www.uncommondescent.com]
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Does this mean Sitchin was right? :))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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Does this mean Sitchin was right? :))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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No it is just more evidence that Random Mutation/Natural Selection can not explain biodiversity.

The rational inference is that intelligent design is involved.


Funny that the "invention of ignorant goat herders in the bronze age" is exactly the kind of mechanism we still rely on to explain life.


"Nature of the Gaps" argument continues to fail miserably.
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Like AC from India said, apes would not still be here if we evolved from them...and we did NOT evolve from apes...if we had, they would all be people now..not still roaming around in their old form...
when something evolves from something else the old form dies out and ceases to be...with the evolved creation taking its place...

thus evolution...it evolves to survive ...



another do
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We have fish species of Coelacanth that date back 400 mya. 400 million years of "evolution" did nothing to this fish, as well as other species.

Evolution has failed in just about every prediction it's ever made. They just keep inventing new imaginary models and processes to try and explain their failures away.
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Do you believe in Adam and Eve?
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I think its more likely apes evolved from humans.
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2 words... Common ancestor.

Close this abortion of a thread.
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Does this mean Sitchin was right? :))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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No it is just more evidence that Random Mutation/Natural Selection can not explain biodiversity.

The rational inference is that intelligent design is involved.


Funny that the "invention of ignorant goat herders in the bronze age" is exactly the kind of mechanism we still rely on to explain life.


"Nature of the Gaps" argument continues to fail miserably.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


no, this is just about humans, if natural evolution can not accoount for our appearence what can? it leaves an open door for sitchin and lloyd pye. But this is only one genetic expert, I think you need more to support this theory in order for it to be somewhat accepted. still as schopenhuer said: "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
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If humans did not evolve form apes then explain the wookie.
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Like AC from India said, apes would not still be here if we evolved from them...and we did NOT evolve from apes...if we had, they would all be people now..not still roaming around in their old form...
when something evolves from something else the old form dies out and ceases to be...with the evolved creation taking its place...

thus evolution...it evolves to survive ...



another do
 Quoting: Abi ~



We have fish species of Coelacanth that date back 400 mya. 400 million years of "evolution" did nothing to this fish, as well as other species.

Evolution has failed in just about every prediction it's ever made. They just keep inventing new imaginary models and processes to try and explain their failures away.
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This proves how much of a dumbass you are. For example, medical sciences based upon evolution have been a great success. So this "failed in every prediction" is itself wrong. Those who claim bs about evolution really have no clue to evolution itself. This argument, for example, is as stupid as saying:

If Americans came over from Europe, why is there still a Europe. The same thing which created the American nation (a move and change of one population) is what happens in evolution; not all populations change.
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2 words... Common ancestor.

Close this abortion of a thread.
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Still a theory. Far from conclusive.
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If humans did not evolve form apes then explain the wookie.
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And Ewoks

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Does this mean Sitchin was right? :))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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No it is just more evidence that Random Mutation/Natural Selection can not explain biodiversity.

The rational inference is that intelligent design is involved.

Funny that the "invention of ignorant goat herders in the bronze age" is exactly the kind of mechanism we still rely on to explain life.


"Nature of the Gaps" argument continues to fail miserably.
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Then who designed the intelligent designer? and so on and so forth...
Even if you are in a minority of one, the truth is still the truth.
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Like AC from India said, apes would not still be here if we evolved from them...and we did NOT evolve from apes...if we had, they would all be people now..not still roaming around in their old form...
when something evolves from something else the old form dies out and ceases to be...with the evolved creation taking its place...

thus evolution...it evolves to survive ...



another do
 Quoting: Abi ~



We have fish species of Coelacanth that date back 400 mya. 400 million years of "evolution" did nothing to this fish, as well as other species.

Evolution has failed in just about every prediction it's ever made. They just keep inventing new imaginary models and processes to try and explain their failures away.
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Do you believe in Adam and Eve?
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"Adam and Eve"... I believe.Not the way religion describes it. They were the "first" born genetic manipulated human beings. But,don't forget,life has begun in various locations on this planet,but there is always a first place,first time,since we live in a Universe/world of polarity/duality.
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I'm a leading scientist and its true, i go to secret bi-annual meetings whereby we discuss how to best disseminate our propaganda.

The endgame is the destruction of the christian faith and the global embrace of satanism.

Hail Satan!
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Does this mean Sitchin was right? :))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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No it is just more evidence that Random Mutation/Natural Selection can not explain biodiversity.

The rational inference is that intelligent design is involved.

Funny that the "invention of ignorant goat herders in the bronze age" is exactly the kind of mechanism we still rely on to explain life.


"Nature of the Gaps" argument continues to fail miserably.
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Then who designed the intelligent designer? and so on and so forth...
 Quoting: LosTLocos


People that make this argument are beyond help.

Well then what made that, then that, then that...


What if there just IS, and by IS I don't mean humans, because we were genetically modified by an off-world species of intelligent beings.
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Does this mean Sitchin was right? :))))))))))))))))))))))))))
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27131836


No it is just more evidence that Random Mutation/Natural Selection can not explain biodiversity.

The rational inference is that intelligent design is involved.


Funny that the "invention of ignorant goat herders in the bronze age" is exactly the kind of mechanism we still rely on to explain life.


"Nature of the Gaps" argument continues to fail miserably.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


no, this is just about humans, if natural evolution can not accoount for our appearence what can? it leaves an open door for sitchin and lloyd pye. But this is only one genetic expert, I think you need more to support this theory in order for it to be somewhat accepted. still as schopenhuer said: "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27131836


What do you think Archeology and Forensics is based on? They study data and rule out the possibility of a random, accidental, natural cause, and thus infer INTELLIGENT DESIGN. Paranoia about fringe theories gaining leverage is meaningless. This is about Science. If your theory can't be supported, then it's time to let it go.

This particular example concerns Humans, but the central issue is that we do not observe novel functional proteins evolving, and experimental evidence shows that the odds of just ONE evolving are astronomical, much less the millions of COORDINATED protein/enzymes required to explain modern biodiversity.

That should be the final nail in the coffin for Random Mutation / Natural Selection. It simply isn't happening and can not happen.

Here's a link to 50 Peer-Reviewed scientific publications dissenting from Darwinism and supporting Intelligent Design:

[link to www.discovery.org]
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Does this mean Sitchin was right? :))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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No it is just more evidence that Random Mutation/Natural Selection can not explain biodiversity.

The rational inference is that intelligent design is involved.


Funny that the "invention of ignorant goat herders in the bronze age" is exactly the kind of mechanism we still rely on to explain life.


"Nature of the Gaps" argument continues to fail miserably.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


no, this is just about humans, if natural evolution can not accoount for our appearence what can? it leaves an open door for sitchin and lloyd pye. But this is only one genetic expert, I think you need more to support this theory in order for it to be somewhat accepted. still as schopenhuer said: "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27131836


What do you think Archeology and Forensics is based on? They study data and rule out the possibility of a random, accidental, natural cause, and thus infer INTELLIGENT DESIGN. Paranoia about fringe theories gaining leverage is meaningless. This is about Science. If your theory can't be supported, then it's time to let it go.

This particular example concerns Humans, but the central issue is that we do not observe novel functional proteins evolving, and experimental evidence shows that the odds of just ONE evolving are astronomical, much less the millions of COORDINATED protein/enzymes required to explain modern biodiversity.

That should be the final nail in the coffin for Random Mutation / Natural Selection. It simply isn't happening and can not happen.

Here's a link to 50 Peer-Reviewed scientific publications dissenting from Darwinism and supporting Intelligent Design:

[link to www.discovery.org]
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I am for inteligent design and I do believe in God. I give you one support proof or something similar to sitchin's theory: www.maurobiglino.com. God bless us all.
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Does this mean Sitchin was right? :))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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No it is just more evidence that Random Mutation/Natural Selection can not explain biodiversity.

The rational inference is that intelligent design is involved.

Funny that the "invention of ignorant goat herders in the bronze age" is exactly the kind of mechanism we still rely on to explain life.


"Nature of the Gaps" argument continues to fail miserably.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


Then who designed the intelligent designer? and so on and so forth...
 Quoting: LosTLocos


When you understand in your mind someone that has no beginning and no end, then you will know what GOD
Is. The Divine Primary Source of ALL That IS.
Until then,try to search and figure it out for yourself because those questions have answers.
Hint: Don't look into religion. Mix science AND spirituality.



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Again, dumbasses, humans ARE APES. Anyone who claims science and doesn't know THAT basic fact are really not credible.
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Hey genius, did you spend a lot of time smashing square pegs through round holes as a child?

Why don't you put down the Darwin Kool-Aid and take a couple hours and read through the thousands and thousands of extreme genotype and phenotype differences between humans and apes.

[link to carta.anthropogeny.org]

Anatomy and Biomechanics
Behavior
Cell Biology and Biochemistry
Cognition
Communication
Culture
Dental Biology and Disease
Development
Ecology
Endocrinology
General Life History
Genetics
Genomics
Immunology
Medical Disease
Mental Disease
Neuroscience
Nutrition
Organ Physiology
Pathology
Pharmacology
Reproductive Biology and Disease
Skin Biology and Disease
Social Organization

Humans and Apes are vastly different in almost every conceivable way.
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So is a dinosaur a bird...!

Your point?
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so is it easier to believe that some outer life forms (that we never saw nor have any evidence) made some genetic experiences and created us, instead of believing in evolution?
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Does this mean Sitchin was right? :))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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No it is just more evidence that Random Mutation/Natural Selection can not explain biodiversity.

The rational inference is that intelligent design is involved.


Funny that the "invention of ignorant goat herders in the bronze age" is exactly the kind of mechanism we still rely on to explain life.


"Nature of the Gaps" argument continues to fail miserably.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


no, this is just about humans, if natural evolution can not accoount for our appearence what can? it leaves an open door for sitchin and lloyd pye. But this is only one genetic expert, I think you need more to support this theory in order for it to be somewhat accepted. still as schopenhuer said: "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27131836


What do you think Archeology and Forensics is based on? They study data and rule out the possibility of a random, accidental, natural cause, and thus infer INTELLIGENT DESIGN. Paranoia about fringe theories gaining leverage is meaningless. This is about Science. If your theory can't be supported, then it's time to let it go.

This particular example concerns Humans, but the central issue is that we do not observe novel functional proteins evolving, and experimental evidence shows that the odds of just ONE evolving are astronomical, much less the millions of COORDINATED protein/enzymes required to explain modern biodiversity.

That should be the final nail in the coffin for Random Mutation / Natural Selection. It simply isn't happening and can not happen.

Here's a link to 50 Peer-Reviewed scientific publications dissenting from Darwinism and supporting Intelligent Design:

[link to www.discovery.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


being a peer-reviewed paper does not make it the truth. For both theories of course.

And just as an example, one of the papers that appears the most in those links is a paper dedicated to defend the inteligent design lol, where is the impartiality?

[link to bio-complexity.org]
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Does this mean Sitchin was right? :))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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No it is just more evidence that Random Mutation/Natural Selection can not explain biodiversity.

The rational inference is that intelligent design is involved.


Funny that the "invention of ignorant goat herders in the bronze age" is exactly the kind of mechanism we still rely on to explain life.


"Nature of the Gaps" argument continues to fail miserably.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


no, this is just about humans, if natural evolution can not accoount for our appearence what can? it leaves an open door for sitchin and lloyd pye. But this is only one genetic expert, I think you need more to support this theory in order for it to be somewhat accepted. still as schopenhuer said: "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27131836


What do you think Archeology and Forensics is based on? They study data and rule out the possibility of a random, accidental, natural cause, and thus infer INTELLIGENT DESIGN. Paranoia about fringe theories gaining leverage is meaningless. This is about Science. If your theory can't be supported, then it's time to let it go.

This particular example concerns Humans, but the central issue is that we do not observe novel functional proteins evolving, and experimental evidence shows that the odds of just ONE evolving are astronomical, much less the millions of COORDINATED protein/enzymes required to explain modern biodiversity.

That should be the final nail in the coffin for Random Mutation / Natural Selection. It simply isn't happening and can not happen.

Here's a link to 50 Peer-Reviewed scientific publications dissenting from Darwinism and supporting Intelligent Design:

[link to www.discovery.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


And here is a list of 1231 relevant scientists all called Steve who laugh a creationism.

[link to ncse.com]
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Does this mean Sitchin was right? :))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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No it is just more evidence that Random Mutation/Natural Selection can not explain biodiversity.

The rational inference is that intelligent design is involved.

Funny that the "invention of ignorant goat herders in the bronze age" is exactly the kind of mechanism we still rely on to explain life.


"Nature of the Gaps" argument continues to fail miserably.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


Then who designed the intelligent designer? and so on and so forth...
 Quoting: LosTLocos


People that make this argument are beyond help.

Well then what made that, then that, then that...


What if there just IS, and by IS I don't mean humans, because we were genetically modified by an off-world species of intelligent beings.
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you didn't make that...


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so is it easier to believe that some outer life forms (that we never saw nor have any evidence) made some genetic experiences and created us, instead of believing in evolution?
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Did you watched that video or do you understand any english at all?! Man just appeared on Earth by magic?! Neither!!!!!
E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N is IMPOSSIBLE.Period.
And I already knew that,it's people like you who need some scientist confirmation.
Little minds have difficulty to conceive that other intelligent life forms exist throughout the Universe...
Expand your consciousness!!!
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When I was seven years old, I read a book that taught me that Humans had evolved from Neanderthals and that Neanderthals had evolved from Apes.
Now we know that this is not true and we lived alongside Neanderthals. My point is that nothing is written in stone, it is changing all the time and hopefully eventually we will find out the truth. Personaly I believe and have always done so that we did not evolve from apes and have had some kind of intervention.
Live and let live.
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so is it easier to believe that some outer life forms (that we never saw nor have any evidence) made some genetic experiences and created us, instead of believing in evolution?
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Did you watched that video or do you understand any english at all?! Man just appeared on Earth by magic?! Neither!!!!!
E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N is IMPOSSIBLE.Period.
And I already knew that,it's people like you who need some scientist confirmation.
Little minds have difficulty to conceive that other intelligent life forms exist throughout the Universe...
Expand your consciousness!!!
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lol great arguments you have there..

I asked a question. Is it easier to believe in something no one has ever seen or in something that even though is just a theory, has far more evidences pointing towards it?

And i never said i dont believe other life forms exist. Hell i would even accept the theory that initial life forms started through panspermia... But about aliens genetically creating us? Nope.
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Does this mean Sitchin was right? :))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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No it is just more evidence that Random Mutation/Natural Selection can not explain biodiversity.

The rational inference is that intelligent design is involved.

Funny that the "invention of ignorant goat herders in the bronze age" is exactly the kind of mechanism we still rely on to explain life.


"Nature of the Gaps" argument continues to fail miserably.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23223519


Then who designed the intelligent designer? and so on and so forth...
 Quoting: LosTLocos


When you understand in your mind someone that has no beginning and no end, then you will know what GOD
Is. The Divine Primary Source of ALL That IS.
Until then,try to search and figure it out for yourself because those questions have answers.
Hint: Don't look into religion. Mix science AND spirituality.




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And you KNOW what GOD IS? i think you are full of shit and also the people who claim to KNOW this...

Oh, and by the way, try not to be too condecending, it lowers your credibility even more...

Last Edited by LosTLocos on 11/06/2012 12:54 PM
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And here is a list of 1231 relevant scientists all called Steve who laugh a creationism.

[link to ncse.com]
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And perhaps someday Steve will be able to produce actual evidence that the evolutionary mechanism is even possible. But we're not holding our breath.

Until then, keep clinging to your argument ad populum fallacies, Sheldon.
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