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Lord Shri Krishna said:
Why grieve for those for whom no grief is due, and yet profess wisdom? The wise grieve neither for the dead nor the living.

There was never a time when I was not, nor thou, nor these princes were not; there will never be a time when we shall cease to be.

As the soul experiences in this body infancy, youth and old age, so finally it passes into another. The wise have no delusion about this.

Those external relations which bring cold and heat, pain and happiness, they come and go; they are not permanent. Endure them bravely, O Prince!

The hero whose soul is unmoved by circumstance, who accepts pleasure and pain with equanimity, only he is fit for immortality.

That which is not, shall never be; that which is, shall never cease to be.
To the wise, these truths are self-evident.

The Spirit, which pervades all that we see, is imperishable. Nothing can destroy the Spirit.

The material bodies which this Eternal, Indestructible, Immeasurable Spirit inhabits are all finite. Therefore fight, O Valiant Man!

He who thinks that the Spirit kills, and he who thinks of It as killed, are both ignorant. The Spirit kills not, nor is It killed.

It was not born; It will never die, nor once having been, can It cease to be. Unborn, Eternal, Ever-enduring, yet Most Ancient, the Spirit dies not when the body is dead.

He who knows the Spirit as Indestructible, Immortal, Unborn, Always-the-Same, how should he kill or cause to be killed?

As a man discards his threadbare robes and puts on new, so the Spirit throws off Its wornout bodies and takes fresh ones.

Weapons cleave It not, fire burns It not, water drenches It not, and wind dries It not.

It is impenetrable; It can be neither drowned nor scorched nor dried. It is Eternal, Allpervading, Unchanging, Immovable and Most Ancient.

It is named the Unmanifest, the Unthinkable, the immutable. Wherefore, knowing the Spirit as such, thou hast no cause to grieve.

Even if thou thinkest of It as constantly being born, constantly dying, even then, O Mighty Man, thou still hast no cause to grieve.

For death is as sure for that which is born, as birth is for that which is dead. Therefore grieve not for what is inevitable.

The end and the beginning of beings are unknown. We see only the intervening formations.
Then what cause is there for grief?

One hears of the Spirit with surprise, another thinks It marvelous, the third listens without comprehending. Thus, though many are told about It, scarcely is there one who knows It.

Be not anxious about these armies. The Spirit in man is imperishable.
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When a man attains to Pure Reason, he renounces in this world the results of good and evil alike. Cling thou to Right Action. Spirituality is the real art of living.

The sages guided by Pure Intellect renounce the fruit of action; and, freed from the chains of rebirth, they reach the highest bliss.

When thy reason has crossed the entanglements of illusion, then shalt thou become indifferent both to the philosophies thou hast heard and to those thou mayest yet hear.

When the intellect, bewildered by the multiplicity of holy scripts, stands unperturbed in blissful contemplation of the Infinite, then hast thou attained Spirituality.
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Saptaparna ~
Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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Amazing stuff. I can't believe I haven't read this before.
Saptaparna ~
Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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Amazing stuff. I can't believe I haven't read this before.
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Yes it is & so incredibly simple & clearly laid out, & without confusion.

Tks you for sharing. Would like to hear more.
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Amazing stuff. I can't believe I haven't read this before.
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Yes it is & so incredibly simple & clearly laid out, & without confusion.

Tks you for sharing. Would like to hear more.
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Tks for the link. I have bookmarked it.
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Amazing stuff. I can't believe I haven't read this before.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


Yes it is & so incredibly simple & clearly laid out, & without confusion.

Tks you for sharing. Would like to hear more.
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I'll read through and pull out some of the more important sections.
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~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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5 stizars SS.I always enjoy reading it.
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5 stizars SS.I always enjoy reading it.
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I can't believe I never did, but it's kind of nice reading it after I have learned so much. Everything just clicks into place, and I discover all over again that I am on the correct path for me.
Saptaparna ~
Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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When a man attains to Pure Reason, he renounces in this world the results of good and evil alike. Cling thou to Right Action. Spirituality is the real art of living.

The sages guided by Pure Intellect renounce the fruit of action; and, freed from the chains of rebirth, they reach the highest bliss.

When thy reason has crossed the entanglements of illusion, then shalt thou become indifferent both to the philosophies thou hast heard and to those thou mayest yet hear.

When the intellect, bewildered by the multiplicity of holy scripts, stands unperturbed in blissful contemplation of the Infinite, then hast thou attained Spirituality.
[link to www.thebigview.com]
[/quot

Which has nothing to do with reason
You can ignore the consequences of
your actions, but you cannot ignore
the RESULTS of the consequences of your actions

Ayn Rand
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Great thread topic. I highly recommend the text from which the Bhagavad Gita comes, The Mahabharata.
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When a man attains to Pure Reason, he renounces in this world the results of good and evil alike. Cling thou to Right Action. Spirituality is the real art of living.

The sages guided by Pure Intellect renounce the fruit of action; and, freed from the chains of rebirth, they reach the highest bliss.

When thy reason has crossed the entanglements of illusion, then shalt thou become indifferent both to the philosophies thou hast heard and to those thou mayest yet hear.

When the intellect, bewildered by the multiplicity of holy scripts, stands unperturbed in blissful contemplation of the Infinite, then hast thou attained Spirituality.
[link to www.thebigview.com]
[/quot

Which has nothing to do with reason
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Depends what you think of the spirit or soul. If you know that what he speaks is true, than it is reasonable.
Saptaparna ~
Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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5 stizars SS.I always enjoy reading it.
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I can't believe I never did, but it's kind of nice reading it after I have learned so much. Everything just clicks into place, and I discover all over again that I am on the correct path for me.
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Yep.
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wtf

Shortest pin in history.
Saptaparna ~
Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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Hey Sap I'm glad you went thru with your intention on reading the Vedas. :)

I hope it will help you on your path my friend.
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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Hey Sap I'm glad you went thru with your intention on reading the Vedas. :)

I hope it will help you on your path my friend.
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I am sure it will. So far I am resonating strongly with it. It's fun reading this stuff at this point that I am at, as I have personally experienced much in the spiritual aspects and non-material aspect of reality. I can 'see' the truth now when I read things like this, and it feels good.
Saptaparna ~
Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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Hey Sap I'm glad you went thru with your intention on reading the Vedas. :)

I hope it will help you on your path my friend.
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I am sure it will. So far I am resonating strongly with it. It's fun reading this stuff at this point that I am at, as I have personally experienced much in the spiritual aspects and non-material aspect of reality. I can 'see' the truth now when I read things like this, and it feels good.
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That's great to hear.

Ever hear of The Book of Privy Counseling?

[link to www.scribd.com]

This is more of a contemplative method that might heighten your awareness if you're interested :)

“Many people confuse their activities with themselves, believing them to be the same. But this is not so.”

Last Edited by Cheshire~Cat on 11/06/2012 03:41 PM
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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Hey Sap I'm glad you went thru with your intention on reading the Vedas. :)

I hope it will help you on your path my friend.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


I am sure it will. So far I am resonating strongly with it. It's fun reading this stuff at this point that I am at, as I have personally experienced much in the spiritual aspects and non-material aspect of reality. I can 'see' the truth now when I read things like this, and it feels good.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


That's great to hear.

Ever hear of The Book of Privy Counseling?

[link to www.scribd.com]

This is more of a contemplative method that might heighten your awareness if you're interested :)
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Yes, I'm interested enough to see if it is interesting, lmao!

I bought the full translation of Rig Veda, but the the book didn't come with any notations or anything, and it's LONG. So, I am debating whether to buy another book that has notations on the 'important' parts, or just do quick internet searches on the words being used.
Saptaparna ~
Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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Hey Sap I'm glad you went thru with your intention on reading the Vedas. :)

I hope it will help you on your path my friend.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


I am sure it will. So far I am resonating strongly with it. It's fun reading this stuff at this point that I am at, as I have personally experienced much in the spiritual aspects and non-material aspect of reality. I can 'see' the truth now when I read things like this, and it feels good.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


That's great to hear.

Ever hear of The Book of Privy Counseling?

[link to www.scribd.com]

This is more of a contemplative method that might heighten your awareness if you're interested :)
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Yes, I'm interested enough to see if it is interesting, lmao!

I bought the full translation of Rig Veda, but the the book didn't come with any notations or anything, and it's LONG. So, I am debating whether to buy another book that has notations on the 'important' parts, or just do quick internet searches on the words being used.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


The footnotes in books like that are really helpful in my opinion.
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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I'll get a book on it that has the notations and footnotes.

Thanks Cheshire for your advice.
Saptaparna ~
Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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I'll get a book on it that has the notations and footnotes.

Thanks Cheshire for your advice.
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No problem; those are just a few of my thoughts I thought you'd benefit from.

Also, the Book of Privy Counseling has a mostly Christian tone to it; but if you take the subtleties of its teachings, you can apply it to whatever tradition you would like to endeavor on.
~How fine you look when dressed in rage. Your enemies are fortunate your condition is not permanent. You're lucky, too. Red eyes suit so few.

~Only a few find the way, some don't recognize it when they do - some... don't ever want to.
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The saint is awake when the world sleeps, and he ignores that for which the world lives.
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Last Edited by Saptaparna on 11/07/2012 09:52 AM
Saptaparna ~
Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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I'll get a book on it that has the notations and footnotes.

Thanks Cheshire for your advice.
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No problem; those are just a few of my thoughts I thought you'd benefit from.

Also, the Book of Privy Counseling has a mostly Christian tone to it; but if you take the subtleties of its teachings, you can apply it to whatever tradition you would like to endeavor on.
 Quoting: Cheshire~Cat


Tones of most stuff do not bother me. I can 'see' through most of it nowadays.
Saptaparna ~
Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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From:

The
Bhagavad
Gita



Lord Shri Krishna said:
Why grieve for those for whom no grief is due, and yet profess wisdom? The wise grieve neither for the dead nor the living.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~SNIP~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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But do remember he was very very drunk at the time.
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5 stizars SS.I always enjoy reading it.
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I can't believe I never did, but it's kind of nice reading it after I have learned so much. Everything just clicks into place, and I discover all over again that I am on the correct path for me.
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Glad to hear it. rose
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5 stizars SS.I always enjoy reading it.
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I can't believe I never did, but it's kind of nice reading it after I have learned so much. Everything just clicks into place, and I discover all over again that I am on the correct path for me.
 Quoting: Saptaparna

Glad to hear it. rose
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Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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I would also check out the Bhagavad Gita As It Is: [link to vedabase.net]

That particular version also has amazing insights...
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I would also check out the Bhagavad Gita As It Is: [link to vedabase.net]

That particular version also has amazing insights...
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Thank you! I'll be checking it out. Decided to finally look into the Veda
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Seven-leaves, sevenfold; the man-plant, sevenfold man, seven-principled human being.
~ Spinning infinity. The wheel is spinning me and it's never ending.
~ What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of of your plays?
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I always think of this song...


"The earth is mother of us all, for she is just; but you, because you are unjust have pretended that she is your mother alone; and if you do not stop, I will not permit you to remain upon her."

[link to www.livius.org]
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5 stizars SS.I always enjoy reading it.
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I can't believe I never did, but it's kind of nice reading it after I have learned so much. Everything just clicks into place, and I discover all over again that I am on the correct path for me.
 Quoting: Saptaparna


Why don't you get a job and save up for it instead of asking for a hand out?
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