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USMC requires males to be able to do 3 pull ups...... 3??

 
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USMC requires males to be able to do 3 pull ups...... 3??
Is it wrong of me to think that 3 pull ups is about 7 pull ups short of being a challenge? I mean, these guys are marines, bull balls eating marines!

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Re: USMC requires males to be able to do 3 pull ups...... 3??
That is the minimum. I am fairly thin/athletic and guys built like me can slam out pull ups.

One of my best friends is an ogre of a man, 6'5", 260lbs, he is pulling a LOT more weight than I am. I doubt he could do more than 3. But at the end of the day he could dead lift circles around someone with my build.

Yes pull ups are important. Yes, after conditioning you better be able to do more than 3. But I can see 3 as a minimum requirement.

Only doing 3 doesn't mean your not strong. I don't think I could do 3 with 80-100 lbs on my back.

Just trying to give an alternative prospective.
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It used to be that they had to do at least 7 (kipping allowed), but that was when males and females had different PFT's (physical fitness test). Females used to be required to do a chin-up for as long as they could, a minimum of 11 seconds.
Now that females have to run the same exact PFT as the guys, they had to alter the test in order to be fair, so the minimum requirement for pullups was reduced to three...dead hang, absolutely no kipping.
As a female Marine, I saw only three females that could do three dead hang pullups...and I'll tell you what...those chicks were BUTCH...and just built like a guy.
Even in my best shape, I couldn't do more than 1 dead hang pull-up.
Female Marines should still have a sense of femininity in my opinion...the female recruitment and retainment lately must be as low as it can get.
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10 is a challenge? I was thinking more in the 50-100 range.

I'm 69yo 6'5" 220lbs, 9.5% body fat and can get to 50 but for some reason whether mental or physical I can't seem to get past that point.
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Re: USMC requires males to be able to do 3 pull ups...... 3??
That is the minimum. I am fairly thin/athletic and guys built like me can slam out pull ups.

One of my best friends is an ogre of a man, 6'5", 260lbs, he is pulling a LOT more weight than I am. I doubt he could do more than 3. But at the end of the day he could dead lift circles around someone with my build.

Yes pull ups are important. Yes, after conditioning you better be able to do more than 3. But I can see 3 as a minimum requirement.

Only doing 3 doesn't mean your not strong. I don't think I could do 3 with 80-100 lbs on my back.

Just trying to give an alternative prospective.
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I needed that alternative perspective, i'm a closed-minded type


@69 yr old. ohno
I never seen more than 30 done before

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WTF?

Are you joking?

The test for our tabs was

50 Pushups/ 1 min
10 Pullups/ 1 Min
5 Mile run/ 40 minutes
12 Mile March w/ruck/ 3 hrs

Not to mention a water survival test that was an ass kicker.
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WTF?

Are you joking?

The test for our tabs was

50 Pushups/ 1 min
10 Pullups/ 1 Min
5 Mile run/ 40 minutes
12 Mile March w/ruck/ 3 hrs

Not to mention a water survival test that was an ass kicker.
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That was your test?...we did that shit every week. RAIN, SLEET, SNOW, HEAT, MUD, SAND, HILLS, LAND.
BOOTS ON OUR FEET, PACKS ON OUR BACKS, ALWAYS IN TIME, US MARINES.

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WTF?

Are you joking?

The test for our tabs was

50 Pushups/ 1 min
10 Pullups/ 1 Min
5 Mile run/ 40 minutes
12 Mile March w/ruck/ 3 hrs

Not to mention a water survival test that was an ass kicker.
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That was your test?...we did that shit every week. RAIN, SLEET, SNOW, HEAT, MUD, SAND, HILLS, LAND.
BOOTS ON OUR FEET, PACKS ON OUR BACKS, ALWAYS IN TIME, US MARINES.

Slacker.
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OOHRAH!!!!!!!
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If the marines spent as much time actually training as they do telling everyone how cool they are, they might one day become an effective fighting force.
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If the marines spent as much time actually training as they do telling everyone how cool they are, they might one day become an effective fighting force.
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Your ancestors would beg to differ. You do realize the Germans are the people that named us Devil Dogs. They named us this since they had never seen men fight as hard as the Marines.

Look up the battle of Belleau Wood for a good history lesson!

Semper Fi!
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WTF?

Are you joking?

The test for our tabs was

50 Pushups/ 1 min
10 Pullups/ 1 Min
5 Mile run/ 40 minutes
12 Mile March w/ruck/ 3 hrs

Not to mention a water survival test that was an ass kicker.
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That was your test?...we did that shit every week. RAIN, SLEET, SNOW, HEAT, MUD, SAND, HILLS, LAND.
BOOTS ON OUR FEET, PACKS ON OUR BACKS, ALWAYS IN TIME, US MARINES.

Slacker.
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Well in my defense that was before breakfast!
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If the marines spent as much time actually training as they do telling everyone how cool they are, they might one day become an effective fighting force.
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Your ancestors would beg to differ. You do realize the Germans are the people that named us Devil Dogs. They named us this since they had never seen men fight as hard as the Marines.

Look up the battle of Belleau Wood for a good history lesson!

Semper Fi!
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+1
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How many inches do they require you to take up your ass?
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well in boot camp they weed out the weak very quickly you can go from 75 men down to 30 , ooh rah semper -fi baby i miss the corp.
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If the marines spent as much time actually training as they do telling everyone how cool they are, they might one day become an effective fighting force.
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Your ancestors would beg to differ. You do realize the Germans are the people that named us Devil Dogs. They named us this since they had never seen men fight as hard as the Marines.

Look up the battle of Belleau Wood for a good history lesson!

Semper Fi!
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Unfortunately, I had to do some field exercise as an NCO, and was assigned a group of marines, allegedly infantry.

When it came to the land navigation exercises, and I was telling them to show me re-section and intersection to find their position on the map, they just gave me that deer in the headlight look. (They had no idea what I meant)

Then I was supervising a mortar crew, (81mm and 4.2 inch) and they had no idea what to do when it came to cutting charges.

I was not impressed with them. They did a lot of oooh rahhing and all that like monkeys, but their infantry skills were sorely lacking.

Just how it was.I needed a stiff drink after dealing with them all day. It was like Special education.
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ac, 247 have you ever been in the corps, ?? i doubt it , and they dont have to act cool , they are cool. dig ??
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If the marines spent as much time actually training as they do telling everyone how cool they are, they might one day become an effective fighting force.
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Your ancestors would beg to differ. You do realize the Germans are the people that named us Devil Dogs. They named us this since they had never seen men fight as hard as the Marines.

Look up the battle of Belleau Wood for a good history lesson!

Semper Fi!
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Unfortunately, I had to do some field exercise as an NCO, and was assigned a group of marines, allegedly infantry.

When it came to the land navigation exercises, and I was telling them to show me re-section and intersection to find their position on the map, they just gave me that deer in the headlight look. (They had no idea what I meant)

Then I was supervising a mortar crew, (81mm and 4.2 inch) and they had no idea what to do when it came to cutting charges.

I was not impressed with them. They did a lot of oooh rahhing and all that like monkeys, but their infantry skills were sorely lacking.

Just how it was.I needed a stiff drink after dealing with them all day. It was like Special education.
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I can't speak for infantry, I was a Artillery Radar Operator and everyone on in my section was very well trained and knew exactly what needed to be done. These guys that were allegedly infantry didn't happen to be reservists did they?

It's been ten years since I got out but, when I was in, all the active duty guys were good to go and well trained. They knew their duties inside and out. The reservists on the other hand acted exactly as you stated above...
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ac, 247 have you ever been in the corps, ?? i doubt it , and they dont have to act cool , they are cool. dig ??
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I explained the situation. It was not encouraging. They may be "cool", but as infantrymen, they leave a lot to be desired.

When I am in the bush, I'm not looking for "cool" guys. I want well trained, level headed guys who know when to shut up.
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If the marines spent as much time actually training as they do telling everyone how cool they are, they might one day become an effective fighting force.
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Your ancestors would beg to differ. You do realize the Germans are the people that named us Devil Dogs. They named us this since they had never seen men fight as hard as the Marines.

Look up the battle of Belleau Wood for a good history lesson!

Semper Fi!
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Unfortunately, I had to do some field exercise as an NCO, and was assigned a group of marines, allegedly infantry.

When it came to the land navigation exercises, and I was telling them to show me re-section and intersection to find their position on the map, they just gave me that deer in the headlight look. (They had no idea what I meant)

Then I was supervising a mortar crew, (81mm and 4.2 inch) and they had no idea what to do when it came to cutting charges.

I was not impressed with them. They did a lot of oooh rahhing and all that like monkeys, but their infantry skills were sorely lacking.

Just how it was.I needed a stiff drink after dealing with them all day. It was like Special education.
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I can't speak for infantry, I was a Artillery Radar Operator and everyone on in my section was very well trained and knew exactly what needed to be done. These guys that were allegedly infantry didn't happen to be reservists did they?

It's been ten years since I got out but, when I was in, all the active duty guys were good to go and well trained. They knew their duties inside and out. The reservists on the other hand acted exactly as you stated above...
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My best recollection is that they were active duty.

It may just have been a bad group I was with.

But If I had my choice, I'd rather have an army ranger, SEAL, or regular army infantry with me.

Too many bad experiences. All the marines I met just never shut up about how great they were, and that is always a bad sign.

It's like when guys try to tell you how tough they are and can kick ass. A real bad ass guy never opens his mouth.
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When I was in, a perfect PFT score was 20 pull ups, 80 sit ups in two minutes, and a 3 mile run in under 18 minutes. I had a perfect PFT score all four years I was in. My best score was in an Ironman competition in boot camp. 43 pull ups, 126 sit ups, and I ran the 3 mile in 17:36.

I was in an anti-terrorism unit though. Some of those fleet Marines were unsat.
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It used to be that they had to do at least 7 (kipping allowed), but that was when males and females had different PFT's (physical fitness test). Females used to be required to do a chin-up for as long as they could, a minimum of 11 seconds.
Now that females have to run the same exact PFT as the guys, they had to alter the test in order to be fair, so the minimum requirement for pullups was reduced to three...dead hang, absolutely no kipping.
As a female Marine, I saw only three females that could do three dead hang pullups...and I'll tell you what...those chicks were BUTCH...and just built like a guy.
Even in my best shape, I couldn't do more than 1 dead hang pull-up.
Female Marines should still have a sense of femininity in my opinion...the female recruitment and retainment lately must be as low as it can get.
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Maybe the job of a Marine is not for most females? Dunno, I am not a Marine, but if they're going to be doing a job requiring physical fitness, isn't the mission the most important thing?
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Of course, if I ran to the end of my driveway right now, I'd probably pass out lol
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I can barely do even 1 pull up.
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When I was in Airborne school (circa 1983) we had 2 or 3 marines there, in my class.

From the minute they arrived at Ft Benning, they started running their mouths, bad-mouthing the army as a whole, and just having a generally shitty attitude about how great they were, and much the army sucked.

We really just let it go, as we were students there, too, and we knew if you got into any sort of fight or trouble, your ass would be booted out of there in the blink of an eye.

But these marine guys kept running their mouths, and the Black Hats (airborne instructors) over heard them, on more than one occasion.

They were quickly thrown out after that, and thru the grapevine I heard that the airborne school CO (or XO, somebody high up the food chain), made a call to the marines CO about the problems and bad attitude that the marines had who the Marine CO sent to Benning, taking up valuable student slots in the school.

I would not have wanted to be those marines when they returned to their Camp. God only knows what their CO had in store for them.

I mean, what soldier or sailor or airman would go to a school, at another post, of another branch of the military, and then shit in their living room??

Common sense should prevail.
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If the marines spent as much time actually training as they do telling everyone how cool they are, they might one day become an effective fighting force.
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Your ancestors would beg to differ. You do realize the Germans are the people that named us Devil Dogs. They named us this since they had never seen men fight as hard as the Marines.

Look up the battle of Belleau Wood for a good history lesson!

Semper Fi!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12118332


Unfortunately, I had to do some field exercise as an NCO, and was assigned a group of marines, allegedly infantry.

When it came to the land navigation exercises, and I was telling them to show me re-section and intersection to find their position on the map, they just gave me that deer in the headlight look. (They had no idea what I meant)

Then I was supervising a mortar crew, (81mm and 4.2 inch) and they had no idea what to do when it came to cutting charges.

I was not impressed with them. They did a lot of oooh rahhing and all that like monkeys, but their infantry skills were sorely lacking.

Just how it was.I needed a stiff drink after dealing with them all day. It was like Special education.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27140247


I can't speak for infantry, I was a Artillery Radar Operator and everyone on in my section was very well trained and knew exactly what needed to be done. These guys that were allegedly infantry didn't happen to be reservists did they?

It's been ten years since I got out but, when I was in, all the active duty guys were good to go and well trained. They knew their duties inside and out. The reservists on the other hand acted exactly as you stated above...
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Ever since GPS started coming on line I would bet as far map skills go. After I came off of the trail I had to reteach people how to land nav with a map and compass.


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Unfortunatly, the Marines of today are just a tool used by a corrupt government to leverage power over others.

Congratz on being so brainwashed that you're willing to die for your gub'ment.
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When I was in Navy bootcamp in Orlando I did 16 in my BUD/S test. I was able to eventually do 29 after I got in shape.
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If the marines spent as much time actually training as they do telling everyone how cool they are, they might one day become an effective fighting force.
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Your ancestors would beg to differ. You do realize the Germans are the people that named us Devil Dogs. They named us this since they had never seen men fight as hard as the Marines.

Look up the battle of Belleau Wood for a good history lesson!

Semper Fi!
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Your ancestors too. You boys wouldn't last one evening out on the field with the Marines from WWII. In fact, the modern american military has proven that it tucks tail and runs when it comes upon any force that will actually fight back. Face it, you're giant pussies who confuse your technological prowess with your micro penises.
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Your ancestors would beg to differ. You do realize the Germans are the people that named us Devil Dogs. They named us this since they had never seen men fight as hard as the Marines.

Look up the battle of Belleau Wood for a good history lesson!

Semper Fi!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12118332


Unfortunately, I had to do some field exercise as an NCO, and was assigned a group of marines, allegedly infantry.

When it came to the land navigation exercises, and I was telling them to show me re-section and intersection to find their position on the map, they just gave me that deer in the headlight look. (They had no idea what I meant)

Then I was supervising a mortar crew, (81mm and 4.2 inch) and they had no idea what to do when it came to cutting charges.

I was not impressed with them. They did a lot of oooh rahhing and all that like monkeys, but their infantry skills were sorely lacking.

Just how it was.I needed a stiff drink after dealing with them all day. It was like Special education.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27140247


I can't speak for infantry, I was a Artillery Radar Operator and everyone on in my section was very well trained and knew exactly what needed to be done. These guys that were allegedly infantry didn't happen to be reservists did they?

It's been ten years since I got out but, when I was in, all the active duty guys were good to go and well trained. They knew their duties inside and out. The reservists on the other hand acted exactly as you stated above...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12118332



Ever since GPS started coming on line I would bet as far map skills go. After I came off of the trail I had to reteach people how to land nav with a map and compass.


I'm with ya brother
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Yeah today with GPS and shit, it's likely wayyy different. The mortar shit is computerized I heard, etc.

My story was long before this high tech stuff started.

And today, I'd bet they rely on the high tech stuff for land nav, fire direction center, etc.

Problem is, that could all go away while in combat, and one has to know how to do land nav, at night, with a compass and so on.

Hi tech is no substitue for old fashioned soldiering.
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That is the minimum. I am fairly thin/athletic and guys built like me can slam out pull ups.

One of my best friends is an ogre of a man, 6'5", 260lbs, he is pulling a LOT more weight than I am. I doubt he could do more than 3. But at the end of the day he could dead lift circles around someone with my build.

Yes pull ups are important. Yes, after conditioning you better be able to do more than 3. But I can see 3 as a minimum requirement.

Only doing 3 doesn't mean your not strong. I don't think I could do 3 with 80-100 lbs on my back.

Just trying to give an alternative prospective.
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At 6'5" 260, if he's in shape, he can easily do 3.

I'm a little lighter now, but a few years ago I was 6'3" 265 and would do 12 on a regular basis.
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This ... ^ ... Coming from some Kraut?

Exactly how many wars does your country have to display epic failure at before you are silenced?

What's the German Army going to do? Those Kielbasa and Sauerkraut at us? Seriously.

You are a raging dildo.

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