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Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?

 
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Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?
I was brought up Catholic, so was told...ya'know.
Some of the teachings didn't seem right, so I was starting to think outside the box as I got older.

Well, I felt drawn to Celtic Paganism and read in a book(not sure if it's true or not) that abortion was a woman's right and there was nothing wrong with it.

I know the Catholic Religion is full makes people feel guilty about a lot of things!

Anybody see what I'm trying to say?

Overall, is abortion really bad, if you're doing it for several reasons, such as financial, having mental disabilities, and the father being broke also. I don't want a child to grow up without a dad(he wants nothing to do with it) and also I can barely take care of myself. I don't think the fetus feels anything when it's aborted. I just don't want the child to grow up to hate me for having it.
Is that so bad?

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Re: Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?
Seems to fit under ''I have not slain men or women''

The 42 Negative Confessions [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Life has been regarded as sacred going very far back, it is only in modern times; where neither life itself or the process by which it's created are highly regarded.

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Re: Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?
yes it was. jews ALWAYS gave birth before tossing them into the fiery arms of baal.
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Re: Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?
Thou shalt not murder has been around since Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel.

Abortion is murder.

Outside the box is a scary place.
A woman has the option of keeping her legs closed. The baby has no choice.

So. the woman ruts like a dog. Knowing she can get preggies when she cannot afford it and lets the baby pay for it. Like it was his fault.

If she cannot control herself to be responsible, she needs to get her tubes tied. Babies are not trash to be throw out when they are not wanted.

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I dont think they had coathangers back then OP
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Re: Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?
It may not have been a sin, but before Christianity it was certainly a death sentence -- unless Atlantis had better medical facilities than the world that came after.
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Re: Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?
Killing cats, in ancient Egypt was a crime punishable by death. They were considered sacred. Why has that changed?
Are cats not considered 'Sacred' anymore. You know how much WISDOM the ancient Egyptians had.
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Re: Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?
I was brought up Catholic, so was told...ya'know.
Some of the teachings didn't seem right, so I was starting to think outside the box as I got older.

Well, I felt drawn to Celtic Paganism and read in a book(not sure if it's true or not) that abortion was a woman's right and there was nothing wrong with it.

I know the Catholic Religion is full makes people feel guilty about a lot of things!

Anybody see what I'm trying to say?

Overall, is abortion really bad, if you're doing it for several reasons, such as financial, having mental disabilities, and the father being broke also. I don't want a child to grow up without a dad(he wants nothing to do with it) and also I can barely take care of myself. I don't think the fetus feels anything when it's aborted. I just don't want the child to grow up to hate me for having it.
Is that so bad?
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how about letting the child live and let someone adopt it?
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
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Re: Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?
yes it was. jews ALWAYS gave birth before tossing them into the fiery arms of baal.
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Human sacrifice, heard of it.

BTW, trolls before you ASSUME, I used birth control.
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Re: Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?
I was brought up Catholic, so was told...ya'know.
Some of the teachings didn't seem right, so I was starting to think outside the box as I got older.

Well, I felt drawn to Celtic Paganism and read in a book(not sure if it's true or not) that abortion was a woman's right and there was nothing wrong with it.

I know the Catholic Religion is full makes people feel guilty about a lot of things!

Anybody see what I'm trying to say?

Overall, is abortion really bad, if you're doing it for several reasons, such as financial, having mental disabilities, and the father being broke also. I don't want a child to grow up without a dad(he wants nothing to do with it) and also I can barely take care of myself. I don't think the fetus feels anything when it's aborted. I just don't want the child to grow up to hate me for having it.
Is that so bad?
 Quoting: thecelticcats


how about letting the child live and let someone adopt it?
 Quoting: Kirk


Won't they want to know about the medical history of the parents. Sorry but our genes are not great. Don't mean to sound like Hitlar, but people want mentally/physically healthy babies. No diabetics, I don't know too much about the history of my the dad's parents...or any physical health problems that he never told me. He has mental problems...
People are picky. Are they not?

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Re: Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?
The Hippocratic Oath (ancient Greece) forbid abortion.

"I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody if asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. Similarly I will not give to a woman an abortive remedy. In purity and holiness I will guard my life and my art."
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Re: Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?
Killing cats, in ancient Egypt was a crime punishable by death. They were considered sacred. Why has that changed?
Are cats not considered 'Sacred' anymore. You know how much WISDOM the ancient Egyptians had.
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Your questions is as dumb as you are. E.S.A.D DIPSHIT
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Re: Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?
It's totally barbaric by any standard.

Religion aside, what is now known about embryology makes it apparent it is murder and by a painful and henious manner.

But people will try to justify anything.

If you don't want kids practice birth control or get yourself neutered.

And there is no situation made better by adding the murder of an innocent to it.

Last Edited by Bluebird on 11/06/2012 01:38 PM
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Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Re: Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?
I think humans are the only mammal that aborts their own.

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Re: Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?
Yes, the fetus feels being killed. Pediatricians have testified about this before congress and even recommended pain killer meds be used.

It's human DNA and has a farily well developed nuerological system very early.

Often decapitated and arms and legs broken or amputated, whatever makes it easier to remove.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Re: Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?
I think humans are the only mammal that aborts their own.

peace
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THIS^^^^^^^
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Re: Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?
Killing cats, in ancient Egypt was a crime punishable by death. They were considered sacred. Why has that changed?
Are cats not considered 'Sacred' anymore. You know how much WISDOM the ancient Egyptians had.
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Your questions is as dumb as you are. E.S.A.D DIPSHIT
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Scared ya? Animal abuser? fuckoff2
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Re: Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?
I think humans are the only mammal that aborts their own.

peace
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Sure because animals know do know how, but choose not too.crazy
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Re: Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?
If I were about to have my unborn child mutilated to death, ripped apart piece by piece, the last thing I'd be concerned about is whether it was a sin or not.
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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I think humans are the only mammal that aborts their own.

peace
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pokeye
Sure because animals know do know how, but choose not too.crazy
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We may be the only ones who abort their own. But other species eat their young. I vote we do this... I think it would be beneficial in many ways.
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The heighth of selfishness is sacrificing an ENTIRE LIFE over 9 months.
As for your genetic "worries", thousands of downs children are adopted every year, so only selfish fools worry about that issue.
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Re: Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?
yes it was. jews ALWAYS gave birth before tossing them into the fiery arms of baal.
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Something like human sacrifices happened a lot(murders) to the Gods, especially virgins. Nobody wants to hear about that. I say if there's no pain and done early enough, what's the problem?crazy
Sheeple have had some serious programming and I don't care give me all the bad karma ya want trolls. I don't even want to come back to this site.
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Re: Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?
I was brought up Catholic, so was told...ya'know.
Some of the teachings didn't seem right, so I was starting to think outside the box as I got older.

Well, I felt drawn to Celtic Paganism and read in a book(not sure if it's true or not) that abortion was a woman's right and there was nothing wrong with it.

I know the Catholic Religion is full makes people feel guilty about a lot of things!

Anybody see what I'm trying to say?

Overall, is abortion really bad, if you're doing it for several reasons, such as financial, having mental disabilities, and the father being broke also. I don't want a child to grow up without a dad(he wants nothing to do with it) and also I can barely take care of myself. I don't think the fetus feels anything when it's aborted. I just don't want the child to grow up to hate me for having it.
Is that so bad?
 Quoting: thecelticcats


YEAH, he's a lot better off dead, just because you're
feeling guilty.
Greeks and romans had the custom of leaving children,
if nobody else got them they starved to death.
Surrival rate for birth was 3 out of ten, abortion could kill mother and child.
I will never understand why carrying a child 9 months is
such a hardship, till I read the facts.
Most abortions are black, black babies are not as valued
as white, sadly.
Will grow up orphans, mostly
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your actions, but you cannot ignore
the RESULTS of the consequences of your actions

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BTW Catholics consider abortion ok up until what they call
"quickening"
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I think you know the answer or else the question wouldn't be causing you so much consternation...

BTW, regarding your answer on adoption and the various health and mental conditions of the Dad, you shouldn't be having sex with someone you can't depend on to take care of you or a baby. That is demeaning to you as a woman. It sounds like you have no respect for yourself or him - If that's true you certainly shouldn't be sexing it up...
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OP, I'm not going to try to JUSTIFY FOR YOU, why you shouldn't have an abortion. It's murder............plain and simple ............. and YOU will have to live with it all your life.
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Karma existed long before religion. Murdering someone will just bring bad karma upon you. It is something you will never live down.
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Re: Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?
I was brought up Catholic, so was told...ya'know.
Some of the teachings didn't seem right, so I was starting to think outside the box as I got older.

Well, I felt drawn to Celtic Paganism and read in a book(not sure if it's true or not) that abortion was a woman's right and there was nothing wrong with it.

I know the Catholic Religion is full makes people feel guilty about a lot of things!

Anybody see what I'm trying to say?

Overall, is abortion really bad, if you're doing it for several reasons, such as financial, having mental disabilities, and the father being broke also. I don't want a child to grow up without a dad(he wants nothing to do with it) and also I can barely take care of myself. I don't think the fetus feels anything when it's aborted. I just don't want the child to grow up to hate me for having it.
Is that so bad?
 Quoting: thecelticcats


how about letting the child live and let someone adopt it?
 Quoting: Kirk


Won't they want to know about the medical history of the parents. Sorry but our genes are not great. Don't mean to sound like Hitlar, but people want mentally/physically healthy babies. No diabetics, I don't know too much about the history of my the dad's parents...or any physical health problems that he never told me. He has mental problems...
People are picky. Are they not?
 Quoting: thecelticcats


People just want a chance to raise a child no matter what. Some people will actually ask for children that have problems so they can really give them a better life. And none of us have perfect genes.
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Re: Can anybody telll me if abortion was a sin, before Christianity came along?
I was brought up Catholic, so was told...ya'know.
Some of the teachings didn't seem right, so I was starting to think outside the box as I got older.

Well, I felt drawn to Celtic Paganism and read in a book(not sure if it's true or not) that abortion was a woman's right and there was nothing wrong with it.

I know the Catholic Religion is full makes people feel guilty about a lot of things!

Anybody see what I'm trying to say?

Overall, is abortion really bad, if you're doing it for several reasons, such as financial, having mental disabilities, and the father being broke also. I don't want a child to grow up without a dad(he wants nothing to do with it) and also I can barely take care of myself. I don't think the fetus feels anything when it's aborted. I just don't want the child to grow up to hate me for having it.
Is that so bad?
 Quoting: thecelticcats


how about letting the child live and let someone adopt it?
 Quoting: Kirk


Won't they want to know about the medical history of the parents. Sorry but our genes are not great. Don't mean to sound like Hitlar, but people want mentally/physically healthy babies. No diabetics, I don't know too much about the history of my the dad's parents...or any physical health problems that he never told me. He has mental problems...
People are picky. Are they not?
 Quoting: thecelticcats


I gave my son up for adoption. I was a 15 year old drug user (not while pregnant though!) with a history of addiction and serious health problems in the family. The sperm donor was a 17 year old cokehead with mental issues. They didn't see that when they looked at that baby, they saw a human in need of love. Consider adoption, if only for your own peace of mind. By the way, my son is an honors college student now, destined for great things. Nurture plays a huge role, it's not all nature.