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As an Illuminati, I cannot fathom why you fear us.

 
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I don't fear you.
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People are afraid of anything that lies outside their comfort zone, or their place of familiarity.

It is because they believe in singular beginnings and ends. And this makes them worry about where unknowns may lead them. Perhaps to a singular end that lies with suffering.
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As an Illuminati, I cannot fathom why you fear us.

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I can tell you that George is correct at this point in time but it is a system that I and my Illuminati friends do not really want. You are forcing us into competing with each other as many of us are as insecure in this economy as you are.

It is true that our ultimate goal is full control of the economy but it is not so that we can control you so much as it is to bring stability and a longer term profit for all of mankind. You are more responsible for the instability of the economy than we are. You know the stability would instantly make us all wealthier in the long run yet you refuse to give us openly the power that we already hold secretly.

Carlin is wrong in saying that we do not care. We have to because we know that without you below us doing your duty to the economy and purchasing stupidly, the whole system would crash. But even if it would my friends, after it bounces back, nothing will have changed unless you give my Illuminati friends true political power and the opportunity to create the final evolutionary political regime that will rule indefinitely. A Timocracy.

I know that most of you think that you have no way of moving our regimes to this best and most profitable system. You are wrong. You are presently living under two main lies and these lies are the only thing holding all of societies everywhere from prosperity for all demographic pyramids and individuals. Two Noble Lies that most of you believe. The first is the Noble Lie of religion representing a God when they really represent what Governments have created them to represent. The second is the Noble Lie that George recognizes and speaks to. That you are ruled by an independent non-Illuminati controlled government.

If you can recognise those two Noble Lies and recognize that you live in an Illuminati controlled oligarchy, then and only then can you actually control your destiny by knowing honestly who controls you.

Are you ready for an honest open system of control instead of the one you now live under?

You can, by vote, actually participate in decisions about your future without subversive manipulation, --- or do nothing and continue living a lie?

It is your choice.

As an Illuminati I can tell you that the wish and duty that drives us is not wealth by numbers. It is wealth to be used to insure our demographic position while forming a benevolent Timocratic regime that is completely transparent to all.

You can have it if you want it and create it. Believe me if you can, -------

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DL
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You aren't illuminati. You are a dumbass.

Stop posting, thanks.
"We're not scaremongering, this is really happening."
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Why would you want him to stop posting? Just ignore the thread.
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Do you have be born into, or have a connection of influence to be in this "Illuminati?" tounge
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I do not fear you or the goal op.
really
I know that the benefits for all of us can be truly extraordinary.
My concern is one of trust-
can we trust you with the keys to do the best for all of us?
to do no harm?
to lead us into the future?
Of course we have no choice,but your own secrecy has prevented us from ever seeing your own self policing.
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The secrecy is forced on us by the public who fear to take on the sign of the beast, so to speak, and your misguided notion that you are a free people. You are not. But you can be if you allow and demand open and transparent system.

By sign of the beast I just mean that we must all accept a position in a socio economic demographic pyramid and let the top determine the shape of the common with the participation of the common. Right now the top rules. Take a number of the beast and you have a say in how you are ruled and know it because the system is transparent. You have to give up economic freedom to the whole to make the whole more stable and profitable.

That is high school economics my friend and all that I propose. Know your master and he will give you stability and security and a higher level of wealth in the long term. Long term just being a couple of years.

We are doing quite well as a world but can do better with the minimum of change.

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DL
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Your first 2 paragraphs OP, starting with, "The secrecy" that is total sh*t and a total lie. And so obvious. At least be a tad charming and a smooth talker-you must not be a real Illuminati member as someone mentioned already,or they would not allow someone like yourself to embarrass them or represent them. Seriously, not to be harsh, but think about that for a few minutes.

rofl
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You are a not a member of anything of the sort.
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I don't fear you.
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Good.
You should not as we do good work for the greater common.

[youtube] [link to www.youtube.com]

Imagine how much better we could do if we could do our work openly.

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DL
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Do you have be born into, or have a connection of influence to be in this "Illuminati?" tounge
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No.

If you recognize that we are all units within a socio economic demographic pyramid, then you will know that we all have influence within it.

We all have to do our part or the economy would not work.

The rich just have more influence.

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DL
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fear? you? get real...
fear me...
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Your first 2 paragraphs OP, starting with, "The secrecy" that is total sh*t and a total lie. And so obvious. At least be a tad charming and a smooth talker-you must not be a real Illuminati member as someone mentioned already,or they would not allow someone like yourself to embarrass them or represent them. Seriously, not to be harsh, but think about that for a few minutes.

rofl


Allow me?

You are thinking that there is a ruling body that has control of us. Wrong. There is no such thing.

You live in some kind of regime the same as I do. Who is controlling what you say?

No one. Right?

So why would you think I have any more of a master than you do?

Seriously, not to be harsh, but think about that for a few minutes.


Regards
DL

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fear? you? get real...
fear me...
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I do but not as an individual but as one of a group who does not recognize reality.

Regards.
DL
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fear? you? get real...
fear me...
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I do but not as an individual but as one of a group who does not recognize reality.

Regards.
DL
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hen get yourself unstuck...time is limited

there is only one reality. mediated reality.the rest is illusions...you should know this...
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What happened?

The ethos went from one of righteous pursuit of personal freedoms, and the furtherance of science and the arts i.e a GOOD FAITH cause.... to one of empire preservation? Staying on top? A BAD FAITH cause....

Can you explain that?
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fear? you? get real...
fear me...
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I do but not as an individual but as one of a group who does not recognize reality.

Regards.
DL
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hen get yourself unstuck...time is limited

there is only one reality. mediated reality.the rest is illusions...you should know this...
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And all have their own delusions. That is what I fear.

That is why I am advocating allowing us to come out into the open so that all will recognize reality and move their delusions to syncronicity and a greater prosperity for all.

Note the last tune I gave in the O P.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Regards
DL
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What happened?

The ethos went from one of righteous pursuit of personal freedoms, and the furtherance of science and the arts i.e a GOOD FAITH cause.... to one of empire preservation? Staying on top? A BAD FAITH cause....

Can you explain that?
 Quoting: Intergalactic Diplomat


We live in a hierarchal system. Always have and always will. That is what evolution is all about. Are you saying we should end this?

We are all individuals and should seek the most freedom for each other but within our common and being in a common says that it is our duty to insure that all share in the freedoms we allow ourselves.

You bitch because we are on the top. You are at a certain level yourself. Are you willing to drop down from your wealth level?

Not likely so why would you think it bad faith for us to wish to not drop the same way you wish to not drop?

In a fixed stable common, no one has to drop and any goings up or down are earned through merit. As it should be.

Regards
DL
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fear? you? get real...
fear me...
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I do but not as an individual but as one of a group who does not recognize reality.

Regards.
DL
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hen get yourself unstuck...time is limited

there is only one reality. mediated reality.the rest is illusions...you should know this...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29268301


And all have their own delusions. That is what I fear.

That is why I am advocating allowing us to come out into the open so that all will recognize reality and move their delusions to syncronicity and a greater prosperity for all.

Note the last tune I gave in the O P.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Regards
DL
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that is good and well
what are YOU afraid off...fear not

test our forgiveness...
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There's no such thing as the illuminati.
it's a feary tale like santa clause.
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I do but not as an individual but as one of a group who does not recognize reality.

Regards.
DL
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hen get yourself unstuck...time is limited

there is only one reality. mediated reality.the rest is illusions...you should know this...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29268301


And all have their own delusions. That is what I fear.

That is why I am advocating allowing us to come out into the open so that all will recognize reality and move their delusions to syncronicity and a greater prosperity for all.

Note the last tune I gave in the O P.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Regards
DL
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that is good and well
what are YOU afraid off...fear not

test our forgiveness...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29268301


As you can see, there is nothing to be forgiven but much to give us thanks for.

It is recognition that is needed not forgiveness.

If recognition was given, then we could come out into the open and increase cooperation and stabilize the economy and give profit to all of us.

Regards
DL

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There's no such thing as the illuminati.
it's a feary tale like santa clause.
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In the way we have been portrayed, you are correct.

But we are here and Calin is correct. Most are kept too uneducated to know it.

Regards
DL
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on the contrary...there is much to be forgiven...

look at it through my eyes for a moment;

consider the man that wrote my country’s national anthem “the voice”(South Africa) – CJ Langenhoven

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


He was a freemason. Fact.

He wrote an anthem that made little children pledge/swear their lives and souls unknowingly to a piece dust(with golfdin of course), instead of to God, for many generations. When some clever folk realized what they were mindlessly doing, they added the last verse to ‘slip’ God into the anthem. These little children were trained like little nazi’s...indoctrinated to surrender their souls for land...
Guess what...one of those little nazi boys woke up recently...

these are the individuals you associate yourself with, these are their true colours...know it
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let me prophecy

things are going to change around here...very soon...

BANG< BANG< BANG

that's me beating the sword btw
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on the contrary...there is much to be forgiven...

look at it through my eyes for a moment;

consider the man that wrote my country’s national anthem “the voice”(South Africa) – CJ Langenhoven

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


He was a freemason. Fact.

He wrote an anthem that made little children pledge/swear their lives and souls unknowingly to a piece dust(with golfdin of course), instead of to God, for many generations. When some clever folk realized what they were mindlessly doing, they added the last verse to ‘slip’ God into the anthem. These little children were trained like little nazi’s...indoctrinated to surrender their souls for land...
Guess what...one of those little nazi boys woke up recently...

these are the individuals you associate yourself with, these are their true colours...know it
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Better to worship dust and a country with ideals than God/nothing.

Regards
DL
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You matter and so does your Soul....
Share the world the good that you do..
And you will be rewarded...

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so in other words just submit,accept and praise your "genius system". Do as you say, with "thank you may I have another"

The creator has endowed all with free will and you wish to push all of creation into the service of your own freewill.

How arrogant and immature of you.

You will and have failed.

youve been lied to, you will not inherit what you hope to inherit. Your power is an illusion, and you were only the fodder of a larger plan. Your compensation will be seized by the liar you worship.

Those you acquire are the dregs anyway, go dig the waste heap, and please take them away with you to your gnashing of teeth.

you and I know that you will never secure the elect.
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All I am asking is that the system in place be recognized for what it is.

Stay blind if you like but do not delude yourself into thinking you have a say at present. I offer a say and that is all. And a few bucks over time instead of debt.

Regards
DL
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all you are asking is that people subjugate themselves to you
anyone worthy of listening to would know it is goes against the grain (natural law) to control or be controlled

you betray your unworthiness for the task you have ordained yourself to carry out by this very fact

you and your ilk are NOT WORTHY to deserve what you aspire to
you are not entitled to what you aspire to
and it will never be yours

you damage yourself far more than others by your ignorance


pause a moment - tally up the damage you and yours have done to mankind ...all of it


that will be returned to you , tenfold -from each individual your have harmed
either consciously or unconsciously
all backatcha

consider this

your should be nullified into arrest
but you won't be

you and yours have decided to go down with the ship
dragged down by your arrogance and ignorance

aghast with the plans gone awry


well tough shit
the ends did not justify the means
still spouting your worthy 'ideals'
your endless (self) justification to deserve control

you were not worthy

your choice if you sink or swim btw
as always , your choice

you are accountable -so make amends with heart
it's the best/only chance you have
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so in other words just submit,accept and praise your "genius system". Do as you say, with "thank you may I have another"

The creator has endowed all with free will and you wish to push all of creation into the service of your own freewill.

How arrogant and immature of you.

You will and have failed.

youve been lied to, you will not inherit what you hope to inherit. Your power is an illusion, and you were only the fodder of a larger plan. Your compensation will be seized by the liar you worship.

Those you acquire are the dregs anyway, go dig the waste heap, and please take them away with you to your gnashing of teeth.

you and I know that you will never secure the elect.
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All I am asking is that the system in place be recognized for what it is.

Stay blind if you like but do not delude yourself into thinking you have a say at present. I offer a say and that is all. And a few bucks over time instead of debt.

Regards
DL
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all you are asking is that people subjugate themselves to you
anyone worthy of listening to would know it is goes against the grain (natural law) to control or be controlled



you are accountable -so make amends with heart
it's the best/only chance you have
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You are already subjugated to those you elect who are under Illuminati control before you elect them.

I offer letting you know exactly who you are subjugated to instead of the talking heads we create and own and who already control you.


As to making amends, for what?

For helping the world along?

[link to www.youtube.com]

Regards
DL
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so in other words just submit,accept and praise your "genius system". Do as you say, with "thank you may I have another"

The creator has endowed all with free will and you wish to push all of creation into the service of your own freewill.

How arrogant and immature of you.

You will and have failed.

youve been lied to, you will not inherit what you hope to inherit. Your power is an illusion, and you were only the fodder of a larger plan. Your compensation will be seized by the liar you worship.

Those you acquire are the dregs anyway, go dig the waste heap, and please take them away with you to your gnashing of teeth.

you and I know that you will never secure the elect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27133139


All I am asking is that the system in place be recognized for what it is.

Stay blind if you like but do not delude yourself into thinking you have a say at present. I offer a say and that is all. And a few bucks over time instead of debt.

Regards
DL
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all you are asking is that people subjugate themselves to you
anyone worthy of listening to would know it is goes against the grain (natural law) to control or be controlled



you are accountable -so make amends with heart
it's the best/only chance you have
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29170430


You are already subjugated to those you elect who are under Illuminati control before you elect them.

I offer letting you know exactly who you are subjugated to instead of the talking heads we create and own and who already control you.


As to making amends, for what?

For helping the world along?

[link to www.youtube.com]

Regards
DL
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subjugation is a state of mind not a fact of existence

we live in a flawed society
top down and bottom up -no escaping it
but no need to 'buy into ' the credo

there are many ways to walk life
and many lifes to walk them

self preservation in an economic system presents choices
choices to learn of self

that's all

your choice is to seek control of others ' for their own good'
again , consider this

the very fact that you seek to control reinforces your unworthiness to do so

that is manifest natural law- really and truly - no escaping that either
you fail at the first hurdle
you always have
consider this a first noble truth

you consider 'rich' as entitlement to 'influence '
i don't-neither does natural law btw - quite impartial to wealth - more involved in what is done to acquire it , what it does to one to sustain it and how it is 'shared' , how it is identified with and assimilated into self

(just learning opportunities really- nothing else)

i consider integrity , honour , compassion and virtue as influential
i seek those who aspire to that for communion , support and advancement of self and understanding of self
and others ( manifest natural law)

i consider arrogance , vanity , ignorance and greed as human but unevolved human
i work hard at understanding those aspects of myself , their inception and root
their oft 'programmed' and self satifying nature -
but seek to avoid much contact with others who express those aspects of themselves preferentially

so no thanks - again- to your brand of self satified , self aggrandised control

i can see it is impossible for you to consider that you are that unevolved human - so vain in behold of your 'position'

you have only fooled yourself by believing your means are justified by the ends you aspire to

you have deceived yourself, you continue to do so

i suspect as you cannot face reality so
your choice





doesn't change reality though-soz
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Thanks for the garbage.

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As an Illuminati, I cannot fathom why you fear us.
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Whoever told you we ALL fear you, bitch ?
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As an Illuminati, I cannot fathom why you fear us.
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Whoever told you we ALL fear you, bitch ?
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Not all. This I grant.

Most though as they think we are an evil group.

I have shown otherwise.

Regards
DL

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