As an Illuminati, I cannot fathom why you fear us.

subjugation is a state of mind not a fact of existence

we live in a flawed society
top down and bottom up -no escaping it
but no need to 'buy into ' the credo

there are many ways to walk life
and many lifes to walk them

self preservation in an economic system presents choices
choices to learn of self

that's all

your choice is to seek control of others ' for their own good'
again , consider this

the very fact that you seek to control reinforces your unworthiness to do so

that is manifest natural law- really and truly - no escaping that either
you fail at the first hurdle
you always have
consider this a first noble truth

you consider 'rich' as entitlement to 'influence '
i don't-neither does natural law btw - quite impartial to wealth - more involved in what is done to acquire it , what it does to one to sustain it and how it is 'shared' , how it is identified with and assimilated into self

(just learning opportunities really- nothing else)

i consider integrity , honour , compassion and virtue as influential
i seek those who aspire to that for communion , support and advancement of self and understanding of self
and others ( manifest natural law)

i consider arrogance , vanity , ignorance and greed as human but unevolved human
i work hard at understanding those aspects of myself , their inception and root
their oft 'programmed' and self satifying nature -
but seek to avoid much contact with others who express those aspects of themselves preferentially

so no thanks - again- to your brand of self satified , self aggrandised control

i can see it is impossible for you to consider that you are that unevolved human - so vain in behold of your 'position'

you have only fooled yourself by believing your means are justified by the ends you aspire to

you have deceived yourself, you continue to do so

i suspect as you cannot face reality so
your choice





doesn't change reality though-soz

Thanks for the garbage.

Regards
DL

Whoever told you we ALL fear you, bitch ?

Not all. This I grant.

Most though as they think we are an evil group.

I have shown otherwise.

Regards
DL

You just got punched in the face over the internet by a positive star seed laying the smack down all over your un-enlightened ass. I doubt your illuminati but if you are, you sound desperate.. Very fucking desperate to maintain control we let you have.. You see, you forgot the contract many eons ago that we let you come here and do this to us so we can advance to god-status. You are the slave to us and all you have is your illusions of sucking lucifers scaley pecker and wurm gizz down your gullet. Thanks for playing along.. Dont worry.. Its almost over lol....

LOL.

How do you know it is scaly?
Did it scratch you -- fool.

Regards
DL

Can you fathom that we just AVOID you?

Your post shows how you lie without even knowing it showing that your religion has compromised your morals.

Regards
DL

I have no religion... or culture. When i say "we" i mean Norwegians in general....

No religion at all... but perhaps culture.. but very varied. Like as if religion was a brand CURRY.

I am sorry. but breivik kind of screwed it up :(. We have to seclude and stay away... like after the nazis "went away"

Just because you signed up online doesn't make you Illuminati. I can almost guarrantee i'm more illuminated and know more secrets than you will in this lifetime and I joined no secret society. Fairplay if the BS posts get you off though

You know secrets. Oh my.

Shhh.

Regards
DL

They did evil. We do good.

Regards
DL

you're not illuminatus... you would never had said so otherwise...

epic fail....

[link to www.youtube.com]

I don't really care if you believe me or not as long as you can see what we do and thank your lucky stars that we are your keepers.

Regards
DL

Interesting thread.

Feared?

you are not feared. That would be nonsense..

You are feared in a sense like any passenger in the bus would be worried if drivers of the bus would be obviously those who do not know how to drive and have no permit as well.

SO it is more concern then fear. Concern for safety of oneself and all of the passengers.

A bit semantic but I can live with that.

You should not be too concerned but should promote an open system so that we can come out.

At present, your bus is on a road without real rules and the chaos is slowing down our collective progress and reducing your wealth. Bring order/signs to the road and traffic will move much better and faster.

Regards
DL

Criminal minds can create chaos.. but order?

Don't you see that order can not come out of chaos?
Too much crimes have been committed, price is going to be payed as karmic answer can not be rebuked as long as you do not repent and change your ways..And While you are ones who are so afraid of justice , everywhere you go you cry about justice.. Those who are in charge of this world have every reason to be ashamed and be afraid of justice..

Old wisdom said.. You will be measured as you measure yourselves.

So think How you have been measuring this world and people in it?.
No mercy, brutality, getting rid not only of competition but their families as well.. bunch of innocent people, wish to get rid of 90 percent of humanity.

So think.

What kind of measure awaits you?

One thing is going to bring bit of order over here.

When you do not feel so safe anymore.. You will at least think twice before going to hurt anyone.

I am a first-degree Illuminatus.

I don't like the idea of creating an Original Post because GLP, by Trin ity's own admission, install some sort of cookie or other software when someone creates a post. He says it's something to do with security, fair enough I guess, but it stops me from creating a post.

But then I see a ridiculous post like this, & I think: "what the hell, I wont create a post, I'll just work from here (I only read the first couple of pages, did i miss anything worthwhile?)

Other first-degree Illuminati will know what first degree, or otherwise known as public degree entails (there are quite a few of us now), I would ask that they keep quiet about the details of this for the moment, even feel free to contribute & play along with this topic. I will disclose the details over time, depending on how the discussion goes. I want my fellow first-degree'ers to understand there is a reason I am running this discussion in this manner, & I will disclose why later.

So, any questions? Comments? Straight out trolls will probably be ignored, but if someone tries to make a joke to have a laugh, I'll play along! I've got a good sense of humour.

nah.... go rethread the needle.....

you like liver well done?

ok, I know I'm being a bit impatient, but this is the problem when a post blows out to over 8 or so pages, people lose interest half way through. I'm not going to keep an eye on a page that no-one will ever look at.

How about this then? I will post the URL of a page that has a book written by a much higher member of the REAL Illuminati. This book will explain better the truth about the order of the Illuminati.

[link to www.smashwords.com (secure)]

Not really, you have to cook liver carefully so as it doesnt turn too tough

ah, Loki....

you will never learn will you?

error checking =/= control : the observer's strength (and only real 'power') lies in the *seeing* not the *doing*.

reason alone does not suffice.

you simply do not have the capacity, whether you seek "good" or "ill", harm or comfort, in the end, all your efforts will be for naught and when (if u have that opportunity) you look back with clear eyes, you see that the opoirtunities you missed were always right before you and deeply personal.

Law exists, but it does not prevent, it merely demands balance.

if you gain motion you must loose potential. if you acquire potential you must slow down. you are free to choose: potential or motion, but each will have it's 'price'. This is an example of Law and it needs no policing.

it is the strata upon which She(We) grows.

even God is subject to Law.


The Abyss of Hallucinations has Law and Reason;
but in Truth there is no bond between the Toys of
the Gods.
This Reason and Law is the Bond of the Great Lie.
Truth! Truth! Truth! crieth the Lord of the Abyss
of Hallucinations.
There is no silence in that Abyss: for all that men
call Silence is Its Speech.
This Abyss is also called "Hell", and "The Many".
Its name is "Consciousness", and "The Universe",
among men.
But THAT which neither is silent, nor speaks, re-
joices therein.

So, because you subscribe to what you refer to as the two Noble Lies (religion and government), you conclude that we were "created by nature and evolution".

Man's philosophies are limited because man is limited, imperfect, and influenced by demonic spirits. For instance, your conclusion that the Creator must not exist just because he hasn't acted to save the starving children. Wow now that's insightful. Just because you cant see further than your nose doesnt mean there's not anything else out there. Why stop at starving children? Why don't you, like most non-fearing godless men, throw in all the other injustices and atrocities that have been committed over the last 6000 years?

For you see, when you stop viewing things from your pathetic limited point of view and start seeing things from His, you just may be able to get the picture. 6000 years are to Him like 6 days to us. So, relatively "no time" has gone by as He's allowed "the SuperWolf" to do his thing. That's like you letting a bully loose in the neighborhood for about a week compared to a lifespan of many years with no bully. Get it?

Also, just because you and your kind have attempted (huge fail by the way) to get people to accept your evolution crap (which requires more faith than believing in a Creator)... true - many have taken the bait hook line and sinker... doesn't change an iota of what's been written nor has it in any way slowed down His will. Actually, it fulfills prophecy and just helps to strengthen the faith of those of us who are truly "awake" for He foretold this lie. Yes, He will act to save the starving children and the (insert your favorite atrocity here)... He will fix everythng that the Superwolf has messed up... everything that has gone wrong during mankind's existence. It will be like waking up from a bad dream and forgetting about it by 10am.

There's still time OP (and you other supposed illuminated ones)... in the new system of things that will shortly replace this sick one... rule will be via spirit creatures (God's Kingdom) that will not be influenced by evil or corruption... and as for religion (form of worship) there will only be one... all who live will worship the true God. And life will be worth living: no growing old or getting sick and dieing, no diseases, no wars (nor anybody needing to protect themselves from others in any way as all will "love their neighbors as themselves"), no Superwolf nor any of his cohorts, no lies, etc. The invitation is open to all.

What the hell are you talking about?

We bring order from chaos all the time.

Just what kind of justice would you apply to good works?

What will you give us for this?

[link to www.youtube.com]

Or do you call good evil?

Regards
DL

My Uncle and My neighbors brother say youre lying.